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Post by bufftabby on Aug 9, 2008 11:15:28 GMT -5
2 more starts the countdown. Mr. Scummyboots, esq. would also like to point out to R00sh that regardless of what you are, there's no way the scum will ever get 15 votes on a new candidate at this late hour, so at least if we lynch you we'll get information. --FCOD I was under the impression that the countdown would start with x number of votes (15 toDay), but that we would lynch whoever had the highest number of votes at the end, and would get the info regardless of whether the lynchee was our original countdown starter. That's why I'm advocating starting the countdown with RoOsh, but still examining other possible lynchees, from whom we might gain more information.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Aug 9, 2008 11:31:46 GMT -5
Interesting. Mr. Scummyboots, esq. didn't realize this.
Mods: Does the executioner still come out and do we still get a role reveal if our end-of-day majority vote is not for the same person that triggered the countdown?[/b]
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Post by diggitcamara on Aug 9, 2008 12:03:18 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Roosh, I haven't the slightest clue as to the truth of your claim (even though it has some chance of being true in this game). The only actual downside in lynching you, if you are speaking the truth, is that we have a "no-lynch" toDay. It's still early in the game and there haven't been that many deaths yet, so we still can afford it.
So: I won't be voting against you, but I can't really speak against the effort everyone is making to lynch you.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Aug 9, 2008 12:10:17 GMT -5
I was under the impression that the countdown would start with x number of votes (15 toDay), but that we would lynch whoever had the highest number of votes at the end, and would get the info regardless of whether the lynchee was our original countdown starter. That's why I'm advocating starting the countdown with RoOsh, but still examining other possible lynchees, from whom we might gain more information. That's my impression as well. Hopefully the mod's will clear it up when they answer Mr. Scummyboots, Esq.'s question. Also, I'm fine with being the 15th vote to trigger the countdown, but I do think we should hold off until sometime Sunday, so we don't cut our Day short. YesterDay ended at midnight EST on Tuesday morning, and we know the countdown times can vary. (Well, actually, we know they can be 12 hours, but I vaguely recall one mod saying at one point that there was a 24 hour countdown on Day 1 should we trigger it. I may be misremembering, though.)
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Post by Mister Blockey on Aug 9, 2008 12:31:26 GMT -5
Interesting. Mr. Scummyboots, esq. didn't realize this. Mods: Does the executioner still come out and do we still get a role reveal if our end-of-day majority vote is not for the same person that triggered the countdown?[/b] --FCOD[/quote] .... finally, we thought you'd get that idea day 1...
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Post by Rajaat on Aug 9, 2008 14:42:41 GMT -5
Problems with pulling out of such a lynch: Yes, we get the info from the countdown. That's swell. We still have a large pool of players, and if he is in fact scum of some sort that is another night of whatever ability he does have. Or I have, if someone does this to me. Or anyone. Talk about a wasted lynch, we get the role for one, then someone votes another person. That we don't get the role for.
This is awesome when we get another day of 3 to start the countdown, to a degree. Then we can get the information, try for a no lynch if so desired, so forth. Now, with fifteen? Well, whatever everyone wants really.
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Post by KidVermicious on Aug 9, 2008 15:01:04 GMT -5
Interesting. Mr. Scummyboots, esq. didn't realize this. Mods: Does the executioner still come out and do we still get a role reveal if our end-of-day majority vote is not for the same person that triggered the countdown?[/b] --FCOD[/quote] The Obfuscating and Obnoxious El Conquistador does not believe this has yet been discovered.
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Post by KidVermicious on Aug 9, 2008 15:04:01 GMT -5
That's my impression as well. Hopefully the mod's will clear it up when they answer Mr. Scummyboots, Esq.'s question. Oh, c'mon now, its Day Three! You're still looking for us to, like, be helpful and stuff? You have an overdeveloped expectation of gastardmod niceness. Thats going to get you into trouble one day...
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Post by KidVermicious on Aug 9, 2008 15:09:06 GMT -5
.... finally, we thought you'd get that idea day 1... *sigh* Soft. You're soft. I don't think you've got the intestinal fortitude for true gastardmoddery. I just don't think you've got it. You're weak, soft, and sentimental. No wonder you're behind in points.
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Post by RoOsh on Aug 9, 2008 17:17:53 GMT -5
You're weak, soft, and sentimental. No wonder you're behind in points. To be fair though... these qualities help make you a great Douche. ;D Come on people, I'd be a better Mod than these guys! Search your hearts, you know it to be true!!
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Post by RoOsh on Aug 9, 2008 17:34:27 GMT -5
The fact is, you've made an extremely unusual role claim that isn't really verifiable. Maybe it would be more believable if you hadn't done this in half of the games you've played, but given that you have a tendency to lie about having spectacularly ridiculous roles, Mr. Scummyboots, esq. doesn't think anyone's gonna believe you. --FCOD Sorry about the name thing, Mr. Scummyboots esq (Hmm... you know it woulda been hilarious if I had made your name censored into the less than desirable acronym that you hate oh so much. Damn! A missed opportunity. Maybe next time). I was just saying it to prove a point, you know I loves ya, Mr. Scummyboots esq! That said, you bring up a point that I noticed a lot of people have already been saying- in that yeah, I've made spectacularly wild role claims before.... However, If you really think about it, I've only done it maybe 2x. Sure the Milkman fiasco was one, and the other I suppose could be the Bladerunner Doctor claim. However, the BladeRunner game claim was NOT fantastical or anything, in fact it worked because it FIT into the theme of the game PERFECTLY. It made SENSE. The Milkman one was a wild one simply because that's what the situation needed. But in the long run, having a reputation for creating "wild and fantastical" role claims IS NOT a helpful one. In fact, I'm kinda saddened that a lot of you think of me as so crappy a Mafia player that I'd pull this sorta stupid stuff again and again. If YOU played in a game following one in which you made a wild claim, would you so quickly make ANOTHER Wild-ass claim? -No, you wouldn't. Because it's what's expected, and it'd do nothing but lead you up to be lynched really quickly. It's a foolish thing to do. I'm a better player than that. The problem is- is that this time my ROLE actually IS a wild and fantastical role. I considered perhaps trying to lie about it and trying to blend in, but in the end, I really don't like the pain in the ass of lying and all (especially after just having done that as the Milkman. It's tiring work). So, I finally decided, alright, i'm gonna try to tell the truth for the most part, but in this game the mods have succeeded in their goal of creating a Wild-ass crazy role to give me. Which kinda blows- because again- I KNOW i have the reputation for wild and crazy claims, so it would stand that I want to AVOID that sort of business again, but instead I'm pretty much drawn into a corner where trying to claim will lead me to have to basically suck up the to\/\/n's energy and resources. It's a pain in the ass, and it's NOT what a smart player would do. Which is why I'm saying- give me some credit, I'm not an idiot, and I'm not just going to go into every game trying to make up wild and crazy roles for fun. I did it in the Demon game because I was trying to accomplish a specific purpose and goal, and it did work. I was smart about it. So don't just give me the reputation of "Wild Claimer" because it's not that. It's more than that. Thank you for your time, but I guess I cannot really hope to change all of your minds. So go ahead, and lynch me I suppose. But I'm not gonna pull a weak ass stunt of voting for myself. But I'm fine with you guys trying to pull the plug on me, just... heed my words, and try to go back and ANALYZE the stuff that's been said by players- who's hiding, who's being overly obvious? These are the things you need to think about, as I'm certainly not going to hold your hand and walk you through this game. You've got to learn to Mafia for yourselves, children. Good Luck.
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Post by Captain Klutz on Aug 9, 2008 22:32:15 GMT -5
Speekeeng in a seelly vey mekes pusts herder tu reed (I'm ifee hefeeng truooble-a reedeeng my oovn pusts). Thees mekes zeem mure-a leekely tu be-a skeepped oor skeemmed, vheech is guud iff yuoo're-a scoom. Su, luukeeng et thuse-a veet restreecshuns, tu see-a iff zeey're-a genooeene-a:
Cuukeees restreecshun hes beee cunffurmed by zee mud smeckdoon oon Dey 1 und her Neeght stretegeesing.
Ket hes beee cunseestent in her LOLCETeeng, und zeere-a is a pusseeble-a mud cunffurmeshun in Neeght 1, pust #6, unless thees ves joost zee mud's vey ooff telleeng us ell tu fute-a. Su joost a meenur FOS Ket.
Dooke-a ooff Scutlund luuks tu hefe-a beee a beet sluppy veet hees restreecshun. He-a cunteenooed tu speek nurmelly in Neeght zeru effter receeefing hees rule-a, vundered intu Germun (veet Scutteesh eccent) und hesn't reelly ixpleeened hees restreecshun. It luuks mure-a feke-a thun reel, su a mooch beegger FOS Dooke-a ooff Scutlund.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Aug 9, 2008 23:18:42 GMT -5
Sorry about the name thing, Mr. Scummyboots esq (Hmm... you know it woulda been hilarious if I had made your name censored into the less than desirable acronym that you hate oh so much. Damn! A missed opportunity. Maybe next time). I was just saying it to prove a point, you know I loves ya, Mr. Scummyboots esq! That said, you bring up a point that I noticed a lot of people have already been saying- in that yeah, I've made spectacularly wild role claims before.... However, If you really think about it, I've only done it maybe 2x. Sure the Milkman fiasco was one, and the other I suppose could be the Bladerunner Doctor claim. However, the BladeRunner game claim was NOT fantastical or anything, in fact it worked because it FIT into the theme of the game PERFECTLY. It made SENSE. The Milkman one was a wild one simply because that's what the situation needed. But in the long run, having a reputation for creating "wild and fantastical" role claims IS NOT a helpful one. In fact, I'm kinda saddened that a lot of you think of me as so crappy a Mafia player that I'd pull this sorta stupid stuff again and again. If YOU played in a game following one in which you made a wild claim, would you so quickly make ANOTHER Wild-ass claim? -No, you wouldn't. Because it's what's expected, and it'd do nothing but lead you up to be lynched really quickly. It's a foolish thing to do. I'm a better player than that. The problem is- is that this time my ROLE actually IS a wild and fantastical role. I considered perhaps trying to lie about it and trying to blend in, but in the end, I really don't like the pain in the ass of lying and all (especially after just having done that as the Milkman. It's tiring work). So, I finally decided, alright, i'm gonna try to tell the truth for the most part, but in this game the mods have succeeded in their goal of creating a Wild-ass crazy role to give me. Which kinda blows- because again- I KNOW i have the reputation for wild and crazy claims, so it would stand that I want to AVOID that sort of business again, but instead I'm pretty much drawn into a corner where trying to claim will lead me to have to basically suck up the to\/\/n's energy and resources. It's a pain in the ass, and it's NOT what a smart player would do. Which is why I'm saying- give me some credit, I'm not an idiot, and I'm not just going to go into every game trying to make up wild and crazy roles for fun. I did it in the Demon game because I was trying to accomplish a specific purpose and goal, and it did work. I was smart about it. So don't just give me the reputation of "Wild Claimer" because it's not that. It's more than that. Thank you for your time, but I guess I cannot really hope to change all of your minds. So go ahead, and lynch me I suppose. But I'm not gonna pull a weak ass stunt of voting for myself. But I'm fine with you guys trying to pull the plug on me, just... heed my words, and try to go back and ANALYZE the stuff that's been said by players- who's hiding, who's being overly obvious? These are the things you need to think about, as I'm certainly not going to hold your hand and walk you through this game. You've got to learn to Mafia for yourselves, children. Good Luck. No no no you have Mr. Scummyboots, esq. all wrong. He does not think you are an idiot. In fact, just the contrary. Mr. Scummyboots, esq. knows how cunning you are, and that is why he can easily see you having planned out this excuse ahead of time. You could easily be hiding behind the reasonable assumption that only an idiot would crazyclaim twice in a row. If you are indeed telling the truth, at least you can take comfort in that you'll get some of your credibility back. But if you're lying, well...maybe you should sit out the next few games ;D --FCOD
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Post by RoOsh on Aug 10, 2008 1:16:55 GMT -5
No no no you have Mr. Scummyboots, esq. all wrong. He does not think you are an idiot. In fact, just the contrary. Mr. Scummyboots, esq. knows how cunning you are, and that is why he can easily see you having planned out this excuse ahead of time. You could easily be hiding behind the reasonable assumption that only an idiot would crazyclaim twice in a row. And that ladies and gentlegerms... is the VERY definition of WIFOM. Inconceivable! That said, I agree with you Klutz. I think one of the post restrictors is faking it. And my money IS on the Duke.
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Post by RoOsh on Aug 10, 2008 1:27:04 GMT -5
*Feeds the Birds*
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Post by Captain Klutz on Aug 10, 2008 2:41:27 GMT -5
It's oonly ebuoot 8 huoors tu teell zee ind ooff zee Dey und ve-a steell need 2 mure-a futes.
I theenk it vuoold be-a fery beneffeeciel iff 2 ooff zee remeeening nun futers cuoold, yuoo knoo, fute-a!
Yuoo knoo vhu yuoo ere-a: huupy fruud pulloox Deeggitcemera BleM Ket Dreeen Beed Hel Perzeefel
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Post by The Lion on Aug 10, 2008 3:11:15 GMT -5
Dooke-a ooff Scutlund luuks tu hefe-a beee a beet sluppy veet hees restreecshun. He-a cunteenooed tu speek nurmelly in Neeght zeru effter receeefing hees rule-a, vundered intu Germun (veet Scutteesh eccent) und hesn't reelly ixpleeened hees restreecshun. It luuks mure-a feke-a thun reel, su a mooch beegger FOS Dooke-a ooff Scutlund. Ter thae effec' Mr. (er, Mss.?) LOLKA' also did no' spake in her accen' in Nigh' One. Ef you had been readin' *really* carefully, ye woulda caugh' thes one. Bu', wha'ever. Aye've been over thes before weth LOLKA'. Aye'm no' sure where Aye messed up; as you said, Aye spoke German en a Sco'tish accen'.
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Post by Drain Bead on Aug 10, 2008 7:28:33 GMT -5
Here's the thing. I don't know what to think of Roosh, so I'm reluctant to vote for him. But I've gotten very little else out of today's discussions, so I'm sort of stymied as to who to vote for at all. So I'm abstaining for now.
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Post by Gir! on Aug 10, 2008 8:43:14 GMT -5
AKSHULLY, DUKE, I DID LOLCAT NITE WON; I DIDNT LOLCAT NITE ZERO, CUZ I DIDNT GIT MAH RESTRICSHUN TIL DAWN OV DAI WON, WHEN I GOT TEH RAWK-PAPR-SCISORS RESULTS. I HAS OPENLY REVEALD HOW AN Y DIS HAPPEND. I ALSO HAS 2 INCIDENTS DAT SORTA-MOD-CONFIRM MAH RESTRICSHUN (C DAI WON PAEG 3 REPLY 86 AN NITE WON PAEG 1 REPLY 6).
U DIDNT SPEEK SCOTTISH NITE ZERO, BUT UVE CONSISTENTLY REFUSD 2 SAY HOW IT HAPPEND. I ALSO HAVENT SEEN ANY HINTS FRUM U DAT U CANT GIV DETAILS BOUT IT. TEH OBVIOUS REASON BEHIND SCOTTISH ACSENT IZ ALSO OBVIOUSLY WRONG, SINCE IT WUD HAS BEEN PART OV UR ROLE PM. UVE ALSO GONE ACSENTLES AT LEAST ONCE (DAI WON, PAEG 20, REPLY 591) AN NOT GOTTEN HANDSLAPPD 4 IT.
IM NOT VOTIN 4 ROOSH CUZ, IN VIEW OV HIS FAEK-CLAIM REPUTASHUN, DIS AR TEH EGSAKTLY TEH ROLE DAT GASTARD MODZ WUD GIV HIM.
SECOND, DUKE DIDNT DO ANYTHIN DEN DAT I SAW, BUT DAT DOESNT MAK HIM TOWN. I WANTS 2 VOTE 4 HIM ANYWAY, BUT I WONT. YET.
IM REREADIN.
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Post by Gir! on Aug 10, 2008 8:45:32 GMT -5
DOESNT MAK HIM TOWN. TOWN. TOWN. TOWN.
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Post by bufftabby on Aug 10, 2008 9:22:16 GMT -5
I really wish we could get the countdown started, so the Executioner could do a role reveal. It's not like you non-voters have to keep your potential votes on RoOsh. I don't plan on it myself. I'll be moving my vote as soon as you non-voters make it possible. If we end this Day without having started the countdown, I'm going to be looking long and hard at the folks whose lack of participation in the countdown has lead to our lack of information from the lynch.
Personally, I'll be moving my vote to Duke, especially since his latest attack on lolKat. It's kinda hard to operate under a post restriction on Night Zero when you don't have a post restriction yet. She's explained this before, and her post restriction is mod-confirmed. I think Duke is scum, and I really wish you folks would start the countdown, so that I can move my vote to somewhere I actually want it to be.
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Post by Gir! on Aug 10, 2008 9:24:58 GMT -5
FINE. VOTE ROOSH. DIS AR TEH COMIN OFF AS SOON AS TEH COUNTDOWN STARTS.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Aug 10, 2008 10:41:31 GMT -5
In light of recent developments, I will also be moving my vote when the countdown starts. I haven't been really suspicious of RoOsh, and I do agree that this is the type of role the mods would give him. The only reason I am voting for him now is to facilitate a countdown so the executioner can come out and play at the end of the day.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Aug 10, 2008 10:43:05 GMT -5
I have internet, although I have to stand on one foot, wait for the moons to align on the edge of the house's front porch, and sacrifice three goats to get a very low wireless signal. So don't expect me to post up a storm.
Vote Roosh
I don't necessarily agree with this lynch. In fact, I'm of the opinion that if Roosh is indeed telling the truth about his role, he'd be more useful alive than dead, and hell this attempt at lynching might not even work on him. However, there are 14 votes on him anyway and me sitting here crossing my arms and giving the other 14 voters disapproving looks won't do anything, and I'd rather see a full role reveal on Roosh if he's going to die anyway.
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Post by bufftabby on Aug 10, 2008 11:00:50 GMT -5
Okay. The countdown has started then. Not that I'm trying to junior gastardmod, but they said it would start whether they're around or not.
unvote RoOsh[/color] vote Duke[/color]
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Aug 10, 2008 11:14:13 GMT -5
To all those people talking about changing their vote after the countdown triggered: I'm happy lynching Roosh today. Either he's lying scum and dies, and we learn his role, or he's truthful, doesn't die, and we learn his role. Blam (where is he, anyway) (actually, it might be Pleo...or sachertorte) always says this game is about numbers vs. information, and what we don't have is information. Actually, considering how few people are dying, we have the numbers as well. At this point, sparingly lynching for information is very helpful.
About the duke, however, I am also suspicious. He seems enamored by distractions, first arguing with Mr. Scummyboots, esq about his post restriction, then nomming on the lettuce, then speaking in German, then arguing with Kat about her post restriction. I'm wondering if he's a ringer-like role--counts for town, but must try to obstruct and obfuscate town for some distant goal.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Aug 10, 2008 11:15:06 GMT -5
Jr. gastardmod...I like that.
Anyway, I think it is Pleonast. Am I right? What do you think?
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Post by Gir! on Aug 10, 2008 11:28:10 GMT -5
That's the countdown, then? Yay, I can talk!
First: Incidentally, I'm not pleased by drainbead's decision to abstain, but I didn't see anything when I checked. Although the lack of much analysis might be telling in itself. Haven't you got any suspicions from previous Days, drain?
That said: Unvote Roosh Vote Duke
If he comes back and actually says something about his claimed post restriction and I find a better vote-target, I'll change, but I don't think that's going to happen.
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Post by bufftabby on Aug 10, 2008 11:30:07 GMT -5
That seems to me to be the general consensus, pedescribe, and I suppose I tend to agree. With his lack of vote power, he does seem like it's possible that he could be more of a neutral power than a Town power, like a PFK. I'm certainly not overly concerned about it at this point; it's just idle speculation (not to be confused with Idle Thoughts!). I probably wouldn't even have thought of that if you hadn't asked me what I think, but there you go!
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Post by Drain Bead on Aug 10, 2008 11:47:12 GMT -5
That's the countdown, then? Yay, I can talk! First: Incidentally, I'm not pleased by drainbead's decision to abstain, but I didn't see anything when I checked. Although the lack of much analysis might be telling in itself. Haven't you got any suspicions from previous Days, drain? Well, the person I suspected the most since Day One died yesterDay, and honestly, this game has been really hard for me to keep up with. There's just way too much going on and it's really tough to keep track of everything...plus, I find it very hard not to vote for people just based on their annoying post restrictions, which is a REALLY bad reason to vote, because I have to wonder if the really bad post restrictions got really good powers to make up for it. That having been said, I can definitely get behind the Duke thing more than the Roosh thing. I've been a mite suspicious of him ever since the German incident--for one, even babelfishing it got me nowhere, so I have NO CLUE what he said, and for another, how the hell do you speak German with a Scottish accent in text, and how could the mods tell?
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