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Post by The Real FCOD on Aug 15, 2008 23:33:43 GMT -5
Mr. Scummyboots, esq. has translated Cookies' post, even though she disrepcted Mr. Scummyboots, esq. by referring to him as "FlyingGOBOfDoom" yet again Right now, the only real suspicion that Mr. Scummyboots, esq. has is towards drainbead for not wanting to help start the countdown... --FCOD
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Post by RoOsh on Aug 16, 2008 0:48:36 GMT -5
Hey Guy PNAEF, what name do you want to go by now? Is this cool?
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 16, 2008 1:51:33 GMT -5
Duke, I do believe I've said it before but here it is again:
Basically you've just seemed inconsistant, for the most part, and, like Mr Scummyboots, Esq, seem to have a "post restriction" that you're allowed to seemingly change when you want (or even not do at all) and not get any mod anger for it. And so, just like the above mentioned, I find you suspicious for it.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 16, 2008 3:35:10 GMT -5
How can one be suspicious of another who had an executioners axe bounce off their neck???
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 16, 2008 3:35:56 GMT -5
Vote drainbeadShame on you for not wanting to allow the countdown to start yesterday. Had the countdown been for the Duke and not the Dude, I'd have started it without a problem. I just didn't really see what everyone else was seeing with Roosh, and didn't want to vote for him. Speaking of which, since nothing has changed...I think... [colorblue]vote Duke of Scotland[/color][/quote]Flip that, reverse it. If I could vote for you THREE times, I would.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 16, 2008 5:27:16 GMT -5
How can one be suspicious of another who had an executioners axe bounce off their neck??? Have you been reading this topic? Even one of the MODS have confirmed that it was ROOSH'S neck that the axe bounced off. Color me confused how you could not have gotten that yet, but in case you didn't: Roosh and Duke EXCHANGED PLACES at last Day's dusk. So even though it was Duke's name, it was really Roosh getting the axe (and having the axe bounce off his neck)...NOT Duke. Two or three have said this already, including a mod (who had to explain it). Seriously, Santos, I can understand skimming SOME if you're either side (MAYBE), but that has to be some serious skimming if you didn't catch that by now.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 16, 2008 5:33:15 GMT -5
So basicially, what we know is: Roosh may or may not be telling the truth about his role, but at least he was telling the truth about being unlynchable (which, in turn, makes me believe his claim more). As far as I know, though, Duke is still an unknown and may still be lynchable (although he also could be, coincidentally, the Scotsman...anything's possible, I'd imagine). And since I have been suspicious of him for the last Day or two (and, from what I've seen, I wasn't the only one, although I don't know what people's thoughts are now) it's hard to just turn that off like a light switch, you know?
However I still feel that Pedescribe is the best place for a vote today, at least in my opinion, so that's where I'm keeping it.
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Post by Drain Bead on Aug 16, 2008 8:16:15 GMT -5
Molefan frequently gets people's genders wrong. IIRC, he was always doing it in Batman. Oddly enough, he never got mine wrong in that game, though, he was constantly getting Ryjae's wrong and we were both first-timers and both had the "male" symbol in our gender field. Besides, someone intentionally confusing genders as some kind of planned distraction tactic would be laughable strategy. Not a distraction tactic, but a way of suggesting that he can't be speaking with these players on other boards as he doesn't even know whether they're he's or she's. Indeed, Drain Bead herself did this in the Firefly game, deliberately calling fellow scum Cookies "he". That wasn't deliberate. I screwed up her gender for a while, which she will vouch for if asked.
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Post by Drain Bead on Aug 16, 2008 8:19:39 GMT -5
Also, if gender is so important, why is nobody jumping on Santo Rugger calling me "man"?
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Post by RoOsh on Aug 16, 2008 9:17:55 GMT -5
Roosh and Duke EXCHANGED PLACES at last Day's dusk. So even though it was Duke's name, it was really Roosh getting the axe (and having the axe bounce off his neck)...NOT Duke. Two or three have said this already, including a mod (who had to explain it). Seriously, Santos, I can understand skimming SOME if you're either side (MAYBE), but that has to be some serious skimming if you didn't catch that by now. Thank you for pointing this out. Seriously... it's page 5, it's been done and its old hat now.
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Post by bufftabby on Aug 16, 2008 9:55:58 GMT -5
Also, if gender is so important, why is nobody jumping on Santo Rugger calling me "man"? Are you serious, man?
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 16, 2008 10:37:30 GMT -5
Also, if gender is so important, why is nobody jumping on Santo Rugger calling me "man"? Kindly point out where I called you man. And not in a misquote of me by Creepy Cunt.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 16, 2008 10:40:17 GMT -5
Color me confused how you could not have gotten that yet.... Kindly note what time I posted that, and keep in mind that yesterday was our rugby club's annual golf tournament, so all the old boys were in town. Oh, and I meant to include a in the above post, too.
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Post by diggitcamara on Aug 16, 2008 12:27:09 GMT -5
Sorry about my silence these past few days, I've been busy working (in real life).
Having said that: Idle, regarding your suspicions about "The Duke": I don't know if it applies to The Duke, but I know for a fact that at least one other player was asked to impose a post restriction on himself. (its existence must be vehemently denied)
If that player keeps up with that post restriction, he gains an important power.
If he doesn't... he doesn't gain anything.
Remind you of someone?
The point being: there
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Post by diggitcamara on Aug 16, 2008 12:30:57 GMT -5
Regarding R0osh: He could very well have been assured immunity to a lynch for yesterDay. So, he decided to exploit it by deliberately acting up and thus insuring he wouldn't lynched, ever again.
Nevertheless, would you mind passing me the Old Coin, R0osh?
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Post by Parzival on Aug 16, 2008 13:01:16 GMT -5
I find that Idle Thoughts and diggitcamara have sort of said already what I was thinking about Duke and The Dude respectively, to wit: Duke is still suspicious, but not the best lynch candidate today. Roosh may well have had a guaranteed immunity which he ran with. (I'm also wondering if this had started the previous night with immunity to Kat's action.) On the other hand, granting such power (even temporarily) to a scum player is insanely gastardly, so I find him less likely to be scum.
As for drainbead, and in response to Santo's "why doesn't everyone find this scummy" question, I have a few things to say. Refusing to start the countdown is an anti-town action. I was nearly in the same position (if I'd logged in earlier) and I would have voted for Roosh to get it going. But in this game it's harder to see what effect that might have had. We have a variable time countdown and minimum vote number each day. One day there might be a 15-minute countdown. Or it might be the case (despite what was true on previous days) that the execution will only reveal full details for the person who started the countdown. By the end of the game, it's often the case that a person is called out on their vote record without all the details being recalled. Some people are also opposed to the "lynch for information" on a philosophical basis. I consider drainbead guilty of putting her own interests ahead of the town. It's not good play, but it's not automatically scummy. It's also been explained that her action was not exactly pro-scum either. It mainly drew attention to herself in that situation. Scum aren't required to always make pro-scum moves (obviously), but if she is scum, in this particular instance she was acting more like a townie player making a bad move than truly scummy.
The leper's claim may be partially correct, but I'm willing to believe he lied. Lynch all liars:
vote pedescribe
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Post by Creepy Doll on Aug 16, 2008 20:44:23 GMT -5
How can one be suspicious of another who had an executioners axe bounce off their neck??? Flip that, like, reverse it. If I could vote for you THREE times, like, I would. Kindly point out where I called you man. And not in a misquote of me by that glorious Creepy Doll's Ghost. Kindly note what time I posted that, oh, baby, and keep in mind that fer shureterday was like, ya know, our rugby club's annual golf tournament, like, wow, so all thuh old boys were in town. Oh, fer shure, and I meant to include a in thuh above post, like, wow, too. *giggles maniacally*
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Post by Pollux Oil on Aug 16, 2008 21:43:49 GMT -5
So I had a little time on my hands so I thought I'd put together a theory about our color-coded items that are changing hands....
Here's a summary of the colored items so far.
Day 1:
Hockeymonkey had Creepy Doll. CatinaSuit had Bag of Marbles.
Effects: Winner of Marbles game (Roosh) got useless ability (4 total posts but able to edit their posts) Creepy Doll was creepy.
Item Disappearance: Marbles broke when CatinaSuit died. Creepy Doll turned into Ghost when Hockeymonkey died.
Day 2:
Parzival had an apple. Captain Klutz had a marshmallow + 2 to give to other people.
Effects: Nobody took apple. Hal and Cookies (who took marshmallow) + Klutz all had interesting PMs sent to them as scribed here:
(Cookies)
(Hal Briston)
(Klutz)
Item Disappearance: Apple dissolved at Night Marshmallows gave dreams after acceptance.
Day 3:
bufftabby had a clockwork horse.
Effects: Clockwork horse changed lynch.
Item Disappearance: Clockwork horse wound down at the end of the day.
Day 4:
Parzival and Koldanar each start with a hot potato. Roosh has an old coin.
Effects: ??
Item Disappearance: ??
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Okay, so! Here's my analysis of these things.
As far as we know, the Creepy Doll has been the only item to persist and exist beyond a single Day. The marbles may or may not have existed past CatinaSuit's untimely demise but we'll never know until we go to the great spoiler forum in the sky. In addition, there was only one item on Day Three. Why is that? Well, I'll tell you why I think it is when I explain my theory next:
Pollux Oil's Theory on Colored Items (tm):[/u]
I think that there is a single person out there with the role to give out the items. I do not think this person knows what the items do. I do think that the mods have already preset what items will be given out and what they do, and each Night the player is given the items and told he must choose who gets them. The effects are unknown. I also think each night this role is given two items to give out.
But what about Day 3? Well, I bet that on Day 3 the second item was given to Blam, somebody who didn't say anything all Day. OR the item was given to Nanook but Nanook ended up dead so the item was not presented. Of course, these are just postulations but I think they're pretty fair ones.
BUT.
Here's a side postulation. What if ROOSH is behind these items? If Roosh is who he says he is (the fifth mod) it would be well within his bounds to be able to give out the items AND know what they do. Hell, he might even be able to decide what they do to a certain degree.
Why do I even guess this? Well, it seems as if all the items have a "do X with item or BAD THINGS HAPPEN" clause with them. But the only person who hasn't been concerned with getting rid of his item has been Roosh. Maybe because he knows what it does?
I'm sure Roosh will eventually be around and answer this, but until then it's just a theory.
Oh, and for the record, here's what I think about the marshmallows.
I think the marshmallow effect was that the people who ate them got to randomly see an item from a random person. Cookies saw an item belonging to a mason, Hal saw a doctor's item , and Klutz randomly got a person who can't be investigated so he ended up seeing no item.
Now in the Night One thread when peekercpa died, his items were revealed as:
(bolding mine)
It's possible that Hal picked up peeker's item even though he was already dead. Just thoughts.
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Post by RoOsh on Aug 16, 2008 23:50:55 GMT -5
Regarding R0osh: He could very well have been assured immunity to a lynch for yesterDay. So, he decided to exploit it by deliberately acting up and thus insuring he wouldn't lynched, ever again. You're free to try to lynch me again if you don't believe me... at this point i really don't care. YesterDay i came out with it because i knew from toDay onwards that my internet access would be limited. So i just wanted it done sooner rather than later. But if you want to lynch me, i'm perfectly fine with it now- because hell, if you do it again, then you all DESERVE it, ya know? That said- I kinda want the Old Coin - I dont know what it does, but i know it wont kill ME at least. So i figure i'm the best one to hold it for now. Maybe if you do something amusing I'll give it to you, though it's not my fault if it kills you. That said- Pollux oil: It is an interesting thing, though I know the Marbles were a 1 time thing- as my winning them did mean they were gone. Though its an interesting idea that they were linked to CaiS's death, but I just think that's a coincidence. That said, I'm not the dude passing THESE Items around. Well, I've got the Coin, but I didn't make it/ know what it does. Same with the Horse and the Marbles. I like playing with them because I know at the worst- I'll Live. It's not like they're gonna kill me, but then i get things like the posting restriction- which was quite annoying (as it ruined my chances on the Guess the Post Count thingie if you noticed), and its not something i'd CHOOSE for myself. Same with the clockwork horse- just speaking for myself- it woulda been HILARIOUS if one of you meatbags had died. I woulda GREATLY enjoyed that rather than just a wasted lynch on myself. So again, Not behind that stuff in the sense of "knowing" what those items do. I suppose you could make an argument that I'm the one CREATING the items and I just dont know what they do. That's a valid thought, and I can't really defend myself other than saying "No, I'm not the one making/giving these items out." HOWEVER, I might be creating these items UNKNOWINGLY. THAT could certainly be the case- that perhaps my existence triggers these wierd things to happen, but if that is the case, i have nO idea about any of these items at least. I mean, I AM doing stuff, just not THAT stuff. So i highly doubt its me. As i've got my own fun and mischief to do. And I like pointing out MY things. I've already pointed out a few of them- the trick is- go back and READ over the previous Day, but go over my posts and realize that i'm pretty much WHO I AM and that I'm telling the TRUTH as I know it to be. if you do that, then you might get to see my little things i've done here and there or what i may be doing or have done. But i've not done anything lethal to anyone. Knowingly at least. --Peace Out. ~Ro0sh the Reference or whatever it was that i called myself.... I already forgot.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 17, 2008 2:27:52 GMT -5
*kicks Creepy Cunt in the doll*
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 17, 2008 2:29:35 GMT -5
*kicks RoOsh in the Coin*
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 17, 2008 2:29:58 GMT -5
piss = black? eww.
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Post by Captain Klutz on Aug 17, 2008 2:54:48 GMT -5
Not a distraction tactic, but a way of suggesting that he can't be speaking with these players on other boards as he doesn't even know whether they're he's or she's. Indeed, Drain Bead herself did this in the Firefly game, deliberately calling fellow scum Cookies "he". That wasn't deliberate. I screwed up her gender for a while, which she will vouch for if asked. No, you didn't screw it up for a while. You only misidentified her once, the very first time you referred to her gender. And that was in Day 3, with the game about a month old and 3 Nights of scum discussions behind you. It sure as heck looked deliberate to me. I actually smiled to myself when I saw it: it looked like a subtle atempt to distance yourself from a fellow scum (yes, I was scum too so I definitely noticed it).
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Post by Captain Klutz on Aug 17, 2008 5:04:12 GMT -5
Having said that: Idle, regarding your suspicions about "The Duke": I don't know if it applies to The Duke, but I know for a fact that at least one other player was asked to impose a post restriction on himself. (its existence must be vehemently denied) If that player keeps up with that post restriction, he gains an important power. If he doesn't... he doesn't gain anything. Remind you of someone? It helps to explain Duke's continuing to post normally on Night zero, even after receiving his role: it took him a while to think up a restriction (and he may have been given a period of grace to do so). Diggit, you say that "at least one other player was asked to impose a post restriction on himself" - was this "other player" necessarily a townie?
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Post by Captain Klutz on Aug 17, 2008 6:30:43 GMT -5
Pedescribe is another plyer I would vote for. He claimed that he doesn't want to infect people, but now happily takes a hot potato. Huh?
Also, Koldanar's message ("If you're hanged, the executionor will catch leprosy" is false) looks pretty damning. I was actually wondering about that part of the claim. Consider: we need to reach the vote threshold to bring out the exectioner. So what happens if Pedescribe gets the most votes but the executioner is not brought out? How does he catch leprosy then?
Pedescribe, did you clarify this aspect of your role? What was the result?
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Post by Captain Klutz on Aug 17, 2008 6:38:53 GMT -5
Drain Bead toDay:
That looks inconsistent.
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Post by Captain Klutz on Aug 17, 2008 6:41:38 GMT -5
Vote-count
10 votes required to start the countown
Pedescribe 3 (Idle Thoughts, Pollux Oil, Parzival) drainbead 2 (Santo Rugger, Captain Klutz) Duke of Scotland 1 (drainbead)
(I have ignored Creepy Doll's vote for Santo Rugger)
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Post by Drain Bead on Aug 17, 2008 8:52:01 GMT -5
That wasn't deliberate. I screwed up her gender for a while, which she will vouch for if asked. No, you didn't screw it up for a while. You only misidentified her once, the very first time you referred to her gender. And that was in Day 3, with the game about a month old and 3 Nights of scum discussions behind you. It sure as heck looked deliberate to me. I actually smiled to myself when I saw it: it looked like a subtle atempt to distance yourself from a fellow scum (yes, I was scum too so I definitely noticed it). By "for a while" I mean in other games. I never deliberately screw up people's gender because it annoys me when people do it to me.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Aug 17, 2008 10:30:59 GMT -5
Hey Guy PNAEF, what name do you want to go by now? Is this cool? No it's not cool, you bastard! Why would anything have changed? Just because some asshole decided to mock Mr. Scummyboots, esq. by changing the filters doesn't mean that Mr. Scummyboots, esq.'s name has changed! --FCOD
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Aug 17, 2008 11:42:23 GMT -5
I'm back. Gonna catch up today, tonight. Be back!
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