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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 25, 2008 9:13:33 GMT -5
Okay, well, since he basically ignored me and didn't bother to answer my question and, combining this with the facts that: His behavior is inconsistant, he doesn't seem to get much reprocussion for not using his PR (which he apparently must have of sorts since they're SEMI-warning him), he's not going to be playing in the game much anymore ANYWAY, he's still an unknown based on exchanging places with Roosh, my being suspicious of him since Day Two, AND seemingly forgetting the very post content that he makes...I'm going to: Vote Duke[/color] However I would also be happy for voting for Drain Bead (whom my suspicious have just abated some based on the voting yesterDay, as I said, but who still holds a certain shady air) or Santo (who, as I've also said, just has a role/"confirmation" that bugs me--coupled now with the info Diggit revealed...although that last thing could just be my biasness seeing what I want to--I freely admit). Santo, who knows you're Town? I sure don't. And, not really related to this game, but just the games in general, and sort of off-topic...has there been a game yet that I HAVEN'T been suspicious of DB? This is the fourth or fifth, I think. Sorry, DB! I guess I'm just drawn to you in some way!
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 25, 2008 9:55:49 GMT -5
... Santo (who, as I've also said, just has a role/"confirmation" that bugs me--coupled now with the info Diggit revealed...although that last thing could just be my biasness seeing what I want to--I freely admit). Santo, who knows you're Town? I sure don't. Kindly explain how me asking if I can edit since everybody was going to be told I was town is in any way damning.
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Post by Death By Irony on Aug 25, 2008 10:08:27 GMT -5
Santo, who knows you're Town? I sure don't. See? This is what happens when Obviously Innocent Townies do mean things like kick a Creepy Doll when it's down.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Aug 25, 2008 10:33:13 GMT -5
The newly-arrived cheerleader is either Kat or a tribute to her. Consider that the Mods are obviously digging through our collective history for this, and Kat was our very first zombie cheerleader, back in those longago days when the Cult of Sekham tried to infiltrate a peaceful village and were bloodily repulsed (at the end of the gruelling fortnight, only one person still lived).
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Post by bufftabby on Aug 25, 2008 10:41:20 GMT -5
Santo Rugger, I gave you a book on Vivisecting Children for Dummies. Did you get any more information from posessing it than I did?
I just got it last night, since we're discussing how books make ya evil and such.
As for Duke's PR, it sounds like perhaps he has a new one. Since Kat died, I wonder if her lolKat PR passed on to him or somesuch? I'd like to see some Scottish lolCat.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 25, 2008 10:58:05 GMT -5
Only that it has to be referred to as Vivisecting Children for Dummies in size 5 navy font, and that I can give it away and the recipient must accept it. I'd rather hang on to it; if I have it, somebody that might use it for it's evil purposes can't use it.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 25, 2008 10:59:23 GMT -5
Santo, who knows you're Town? I sure don't. See? This is what happens when Obviously Innocent Townies do mean things like kick a Creepy Doll when it's down. She deserved it.
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Post by Parzival on Aug 25, 2008 11:18:29 GMT -5
See? This is what happens when Obviously Innocent Townies do mean things like kick a Creepy Doll when it's down. She deserved it. You could have simply told her that her 'at's gone out of style.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 25, 2008 12:01:13 GMT -5
'at's?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 25, 2008 12:56:03 GMT -5
Vote Duke/Lion/Scottish/German/whatever[/color]
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 25, 2008 13:34:53 GMT -5
... Santo (who, as I've also said, just has a role/"confirmation" that bugs me--coupled now with the info Diggit revealed...although that last thing could just be my biasness seeing what I want to--I freely admit). Santo, who knows you're Town? I sure don't. Kindly explain how me asking if I can edit since everybody was going to be told I was town is in any way damning. It's not hugely........alone. But coupled with the fact that I was already suspicious of you and your role, it only seems to add weight and all that stuff...at least in my mind. So it's like I said, I probably just have tunnelvision regarding it, to where anything that comes up I'd regard as suspicious, but it's a suspicion I can't shake, even since Day One. There is SO much WiFoM having to do with your role name that it's not funny and rather than keep repeating it all in an endless loop in my head, I'm just not going to count anything out in your case just yet.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 25, 2008 13:57:09 GMT -5
Coupled with my role? I wouldn't have sent that message if I didn't have my role.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 25, 2008 14:12:09 GMT -5
Yes, your role. Or role name, that is.
Haven't we been over this a few times already? Anyone in a Gastard game that has the title of obviously innocent Townie is going to seen as a big eyebrow raise to me for the majority of it (and, quite possibly, to the end of it)
Again, trying to think "okay, is he REALLY an innocent Townie because they said he is? Or maybe they'd think we'd all believe it and be "mod confirmed" but he'd really be a PFK role or scum? Or maybe they'd know he'd be regarded with suspicion and really make him a Townie. Or..or...or..." and it just goes on...more and more WIFOM. It never ends.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 25, 2008 14:14:14 GMT -5
Really, Santo, what's the problem here? I'm not voting for you right now. I'm just suspicious of you. How is that not par for the course for a usual game of Mafia? You really seem to be protesting too much at what is really just a FOS.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 25, 2008 14:18:04 GMT -5
It doesn't, and you guys keep bringing it up, repeatedly. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I haven't been killed yet because the scum want to keep on bringing me up over and over again, wasting everybody's time and sowing doubts. You and diggit are on my short list. It makes a lot of sense that a scum role would be able to intercept messages from townies, the reverse, not so much. Why, you ask? Because, in my experience, most mods like to read the scum threads, too, so any questions scum had is usually asked in the thread. Therefore, what good would it do if a townie could intercept private messages to mods?
FOS diggit.
On preview: The problem is that it keeps getting brought up over and over again, wasting everybody's time and sowing doubts. The scum aren't going to kill me at Night anytime soon, I'm too valuable as a tool for them to be able to keep bringing up the WiFoM with. Just like you are doing. Hence the short list.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 25, 2008 14:41:44 GMT -5
So, you're suspicious of me...simply because I'm suspicious of you? Well.... ....Okay!
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 25, 2008 14:43:21 GMT -5
In other news: I won't be on much the rest of the day (not game Day--today, Monday) or tomorrow.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 25, 2008 15:02:43 GMT -5
No, I'm suspicious of you because you keep bringing it up repeatedly, while still acknowledging that it's purely WiFoM, and the reasons haven't changed one bit since my initial reveal, and even pointing out that we've already been over it a few times, yet you've still got to bring it up. Seems like a darn scummy tactic to me.
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Post by KidVermicious on Aug 25, 2008 15:34:42 GMT -5
Yes, your role. Or role name, that is. Haven't we been over this a few times already? Anyone in a Gastard game that has the title of obviously innocent Townie is going to seen as a big eyebrow raise to me for the majority of it (and, quite possibly, to the end of it) Again, trying to think "okay, is he REALLY an innocent Townie because they said he is? Or maybe they'd think we'd all believe it and be "mod confirmed" but he'd really be a PFK role or scum? Or maybe they'd know he'd be regarded with suspicion and really make him a Townie. Or..or...or..." and it just goes on...more and more WIFOM. It never ends. What on earth are you talking about? There's no WIFOM. He's The Obviously Innocent Townie[/color], and thats all there is to it. Even if he has no compassion for poor helpless grief-stricken Creepy Dolls...
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Post by Parzival on Aug 25, 2008 15:42:35 GMT -5
Night of the Griffin (Youtube link) I sort of imagine the Creepy Doll's voice as sounding like the squirrel.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 25, 2008 16:11:56 GMT -5
I wasn't trying to irritate the Creepy Doll[/color]. I was upset that Hockey Monkey died. I still have a feeling Creepy Doll[/color] had something to do with it.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 25, 2008 16:12:16 GMT -5
Oh, and great clip, btw!
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Post by Pollux Oil on Aug 25, 2008 16:39:23 GMT -5
Okay, got a few things to say. First, to the people who are voting for Duke. It's fairly obvious he's had a posting restriction given to him. It's also fairly obvious that something happened over the Night to make him pissed off enough at the Gastards upstairs to flagrantly go against the restriction to the point where the Gmods are threatening to modkill him. This, however, gives no indication as to his alignment and I'm hesitant to believe we should vote for him based on this. Next: It doesn't, and you guys keep bringing it up, repeatedly. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I haven't been killed yet because the scum want to keep on bringing me up over and over again, wasting everybody's time and sowing doubts. You and diggit are on my short list. It makes a lot of sense that a scum role would be able to intercept messages from townies, the reverse, not so much. Why, you ask? Because, in my experience, most mods like to read the scum threads, too, so any questions scum had is usually asked in the thread. Therefore, what good would it do if a townie could intercept private messages to mods? I have to agree with you here. I think Diggit's role is exactly the type of role that would be given to scum. It's far more likely that town would be sending PMs to the mod than scum, as scum will have the scum boards. The chance of diggit picking up something scummy as a townsperson is slim. It would be plausible in the sense that he can confirm townies are telling the truth (as he has done with the posting restriction) but is pretty much useless in nailing scum. This would also be ANOTHER detective-type role for the town's benefit anyway, and I really think there are too many cooks in the kitchen here. Drainbead and diggit have now both claimed the same type of role (a hit or miss ability that investigates in some way) and bufftabby's mysterious suitor in the mix as well. Unless bufftabby can outright confirm that her "other detective" is diggit, of course. I think it would be a good idea to lynch either drainbead or diggit toDay barring any new information. I think it would be a poor idea to lynch Rugger or Duke.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Aug 25, 2008 16:44:39 GMT -5
Just to elaborate a bit, the reason scum would ask in their own thread is so they could all benefit from the question, and mold their strategy accordingly.
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Post by bufftabby on Aug 25, 2008 16:54:46 GMT -5
This would also be ANOTHER detective-type role for the town's benefit anyway, and I really think there are too many cooks in the kitchen here. Drainbead and diggit have now both claimed the same type of role (a hit or miss ability that investigates in some way) and bufftabby's mysterious suitor in the mix as well. Unless bufftabby can outright confirm that her "other detective" is diggit, of course. I think it would be a good idea to lynch either drainbead or diggit toDay barring any new information. I think it would be a poor idea to lynch Rugger or The Duck. At this point, I don't believe Drain Bead or Diggit Camara about their alignments. I'd be happy to lynch either one toDay.
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Post by The Lion on Aug 25, 2008 17:16:51 GMT -5
he doesn't seem to get much reprocussion for not using his PR (which he apparently must have of sorts since they're SEMI-warning him) This time you get a bonus vote in your favor. seriously, we're going to have to mod kill you if you don't start behaving.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Aug 25, 2008 20:00:22 GMT -5
Next: It doesn't, and you guys keep bringing it up, repeatedly. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I haven't been killed yet because the scum want to keep on bringing me up over and over again, wasting everybody's time and sowing doubts. You and diggit are on my short list. It makes a lot of sense that a scum role would be able to intercept messages from townies, the reverse, not so much. Why, you ask? Because, in my experience, most mods like to read the scum threads, too, so any questions scum had is usually asked in the thread. Therefore, what good would it do if a townie could intercept private messages to mods? I have to agree with you here. I think Diggit's role is exactly the type of role that would be given to scum. It's far more likely that town would be sending PMs to the mod than scum, as scum will have the scum boards. The chance of diggit picking up something scummy as a townsperson is slim. It would be plausible in the sense that he can confirm townies are telling the truth (as he has done with the posting restriction) but is pretty much useless in nailing scum. This would also be ANOTHER detective-type role for the town's benefit anyway, and I really think there are too many cooks in the kitchen here. Drainbead and diggit have now both claimed the same type of role (a hit or miss ability that investigates in some way) and bufftabby's mysterious suitor in the mix as well. Unless bufftabby can outright confirm that her "other detective" is diggit, of course. And, by that logic, the most useful this power would be is to a third party group of only a small number. The less people in a given faction, the more useful detective roles become for that faction. Also, if scum have any individual powers, they'll still have to PM the mods to activate them. And in most of the games here where scum selected the killer, the killer still had to PM the mod to confirm. So this could easily be given to a 3rd party. Also, we don't know that Darth was a townie. It seems he wasn't scum since there wasn't the book on destroying a town, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have had his own agenda. Especially since he was able to determine who the Godfather was in his investigations. The role of Godfather doesn't have to have the power of investigating as townie, but it seems to be a fairly common power around here. It's a nice third-party perk to give someone the ability to see through that. And on a completely unrelated note to diggit, but going along the third party thing, we still don't know who the third god-type player is that was messaged to us in the news for Day 3. It's a reasonable assumption that the Day 2 MVP was Dio, and that his character as a demon was a god-type. It's reasonable to assume that another one of these god-types is Ro0sh the gastard wannabe who seems to be immune to lynching. Now, assuming Dio wasn't just giving us WIFOM to chew on, there is a third out there. (And it's really too bad that Darth had to beat Ro0sh to the punch on Dio's threat. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened.)
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Post by Zombie Cheerleader on Aug 25, 2008 20:01:45 GMT -5
our very first zombie cheerleader There's been more than one?
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Aug 25, 2008 20:07:21 GMT -5
And the more I think about it, the more I believe that Diggit is not town. If he's PFK, he's still a danger, so I'm going to vote diggitcamera[/color], because I think he's the best choice right now.
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Post by diggitcamara on Aug 25, 2008 21:57:55 GMT -5
The second one... well, it's a short communication that our obviously "townie" Santo Rugger had with one of the mods. Am I allowed to edit my post, since I'm so obviously innocent, and would obviously never do it for malicious purposes? (note: I think he was the one who sent this message in. I don't get the author's name, but it seems pretty clear who wrote it). The quote isn't entirely damning. Still, my gut feeling is that Santo Rugger is a villain. [colorBlue] Vote Santo Rugger[/color][/quote]Yeah, I wrote that. I have to ask, are you fucking joking me? I sent a message to the mods asking if I could edit my posts since everybody was going to know I was town anyway, and you're using that as a reason to vote for me. Seriously, WTF?[/quote] Several reasons: 1. Show of hands, people. How many of you write to the mods asking for special privileges? Like, for instance, permission to edit your posts? 2. Read the message, again. It seems to have a certain... mocking quality, doesn't it? I don't have the mod's answer to this message, but it seems to point in that general direction 3. Your interaction with Roosh, yesterDay, was interesting, to say the least. And it pushed me a bit more to vote against you I don't say I caught you with a smoking gun in your hand. But I find you the most suspicious character around. As to the way my powers work: they are very unreliable. I only got messages for 2 Nights (and that includes Night 0). I know, of course, that I'm not scum, but think about it: don't you think a power like mine would make scum ridiculously overpowered? Since I don't know who has and who hasn't Night powers (and thus, will probably PM the mods), I have to take wild guesses which, as likely as not, will not yield results. If I was scum, however, I could significantly reduce the pool of players I choose. And I could pick one of the players that the consensus thinks is more likely to have a power role.
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