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Post by Zeriel on Oct 12, 2008 0:59:50 GMT -5
I'm confused; why would we want to lynch the person peek says he feathered, simply because they've been feathered? My understanding is that such a person wouldn't know they'd been feathered, and so could neither confirm nor deny when asked. Maybe I am missing something here, (a glass or two of Tempranillo will do that to you), but I simply am not grokking this. There is no clear answer to whether a person feathered will no or not. My reading of the PM would be that the person getting feathered, like any other observer, would see it as a failed attack. peekercpa's mileage varies. It is not proven one way or another until Uatu says it. But I don't think we should just be taking peeker's interpretation for it. He posted it, we can all read.
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Post by Zeriel on Oct 12, 2008 1:00:36 GMT -5
peeker, could you BE any more erratic?
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Post by bufftabby on Oct 12, 2008 1:38:27 GMT -5
Right, Z, pretty much any of my commentary on peeker's role should have a size 140 "IN THEORY" emblazoned across the top. It's there. It's just invisible. Or infrared. Or something.
I still don't understand why diggit thinks we should lynch someone if peek says he feathered them.
And why do you want peeker to be more erotic, hrmmm?
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Post by Zeriel on Oct 12, 2008 1:41:23 GMT -5
*facepalm* I'm not exactly sure about Diggit either, honestly. If I had to guess, it'd go like this: if the target doesn't come forward to confirm peeker, target is either PFK or scum, since town has a vested interest in keeping peeker alive if he's telling the truth. Assuming, as I do, that targets will know something hit them but not know what.
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Post by bufftabby on Oct 12, 2008 1:46:41 GMT -5
Hmm. I can kinda see the reasoning on that, but it just feels wrong. Like if we're gonna do an experimental sort of lynch, it seems like our claimed Miller otter be the one. But okay. At least now I'm not doing that dog-who-hears-something thing I do when I experience a complete failure to grok, with my head turned sideways, making a "bwuh?" face.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 12, 2008 2:24:46 GMT -5
peeker, could you BE any more erratic? Yes. Tempt me my preciosssssss. Explanation There was this movie and it had to do a lot about this ring thingie. Near as I can tell it kinda fugged up whoever was wearing it. Kind of like a wedding ring. Anyways there was a whole lot of cinematistic views of New Zealand with a ton of symphony sounding shit. Kind of got boring after a bit. Then there was a spider that had to be killed. Sam saved the day with Raid. Ring eventually goes into a bunch of molten lava (sheesh now it sounds like the dope game). Then there were eagles (got feather) and a drunken orgy. Liv Tyler got to show off those puffy lips. So, yes, I can be more erotic. Reaches for the remote and Buff in one move.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 12, 2008 8:40:00 GMT -5
Ok, here is what I believe and know.
santo can redirect.
I can feather folks (am going to remain neutral on whether it is a good or bad thing). Course I know it's good but want to play this as an objective outsider.
Legacy is most likely in play (most bad guys don't pull a rock star just for shits and giggles).
Since it was a scummer there has got to be another third party out there.
I have no clue about lenghth of time from infection till death by vomit.
There is one protected soul out there.
We've lost our Doc and Detecs.
We be pretty much rowing upstream.
There is a certain subset of players that are being obtuse. Whether they are lazy town or cunning scum remains to be determined.
And cunning scum sounds kind of sexual. I mean, seriously, flip just a couple of letters and you get cumming skippy.
Don't ever think that I will get through a post without some hint of randomness.
Those are the facts.
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Post by Almost Human on Oct 12, 2008 10:51:00 GMT -5
Ok. Why the hell do you want to lynch my ass? Ain't been no detec saying I am scum. Only reason I can see is because I was fucking honest about my role. So hawk you just made the short list. Other than being honest about my still unconfirmed role what you got? Time is getting short and it's this type of lazy reasoning that is going to bite our collective town's butt in the ass. Seriously, I am ready to ride the lightening if it will help town win this game. But right about now I'm getting close to asking Scotty to beam me up. Again: no one is actually riding your ass. For what it's worth: There haven't been that many Nights during which you could have (would have?) been active. During one of them, you were blocked. For argument's sake, I'll assume that's true. On one Night you were redirected (and since Santo purpled you and you attacked yourself, that seems right)(btw, Santo? Why couldn't you think of that the Night Idle got killed (vis a vis redirecting onto himself?)) Getting back to my subject, all in all you've feathered one Night successfully, peeker. Could you, for fuck's sake, please tell us who you feathered?
Because, like you said before, it's likely that you or that feathered dude(tte) are scum. And I'm quite willing to vote for that player. If only to clear/smear your name once and for all and stop talking about it!(bolding mine) The more I read this the more it bothers me. Peeker isn't going to say who he feathered, he's said that numerous times. And now whoever he has feathered certainly isn't going to come forward just so you can lynch them, whether they're town, scum or pfk. Also, as Zeriel (I think) said it would show up only as a failed attack. For all we know there's more than one player who's Night action does this so it wouldn't really prove anything. I can't see anything in this proposal that can possibly help the town so Vote DiggitAlso forgetting when Day ended as a reason for not voting? I know I'm not the most prolific poster but I check in and read every few hours to make sure I don't miss anything. That's just lame.
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Post by Hawkmod on Oct 12, 2008 11:07:01 GMT -5
There is a certain subset of players that are being obtuse. Whether they are lazy town or cunning scum remains to be determined. You underestimate the possibility of lazy scum. Diggit's theory was odd, but I'll wait for him to explain himself. I also have a vague theory that Zeriel is a serial killer. CIAS wasn't on anyone's radar, but somehow ended up dead. It is hard to imagine a vig knew he was scum, so I'm leaning towards third party killer. CIAS was going after Zerial yesterday. Zerial is also was among the first to congratulate the killer today, a common trick of killers. It isn't much to go on, but it is something.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 12, 2008 13:08:51 GMT -5
Actually AH I recanted. I feathered DC. I am just waiting for the numbskrull to get back in here and vote for himself.
*wink wink nod nod*
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 12, 2008 13:20:18 GMT -5
And DC weren't you another member of the clown troupe that wanted to lynch my butt because "he's a miller and has to swing eventually"? Paraphrased, of course.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 12, 2008 13:58:37 GMT -5
And I don't know where the whole three day thing got started. Must be residually Christian.
Here is the PM from story regardin the infection timing.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 12, 2008 14:15:15 GMT -5
This one from story is a tad unsettling.
Someone is going to have to help me on the die roll thingy, though. I know that 7 or 11 is major happiness. While boxcars creates a somber mood around the table. How the fuck does this mean anything in the context of this game?
I mean, shit, are we going to play blackjack or roulette next.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 12, 2008 18:01:41 GMT -5
Yepper. I think that they are "handshakin'" in the glory holes. santo you wanna chime in with some real life experiences. No.
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Post by Greedy Smurf on Oct 12, 2008 22:57:11 GMT -5
I said I was in support of mass name claim, and I don't care about the order, or if indeed people decide it is a bad idea. I now have a fair whack of info, which while by no means is gamebreaking may provide some good background info for people better at this game than me to suss things out a little better. And I would rather not be killed off by random chance by the scum without being able to share the info I do have. After I claim, I don't have massive powers, so I presume I'll be a fairly low profile target for the scum. Here's my role PM. So there you go. Go go gadget super comprehension skills. I must admit it has been a little bit cool to know exactyl what all the other powers where I'll post up here shortly what I've found out over the last few days.
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Post by Greedy Smurf on Oct 12, 2008 22:58:18 GMT -5
From my Day 1 action
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Post by Greedy Smurf on Oct 12, 2008 22:59:29 GMT -5
NETA - That was the results of my Night 1 action Since no one was dead on Day 1 .
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Post by Greedy Smurf on Oct 12, 2008 23:01:39 GMT -5
Here's my Day 2 Investigation of Idle
And my Night 2 Investigation of Sinjin You will note there was nothing about about Sinjin's action being last in priority - but there's no guarantee it didn't either
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Post by Greedy Smurf on Oct 12, 2008 23:04:08 GMT -5
And finally here's Day 3 & Night 3 on Pleo & Squid
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Post by Greedy Smurf on Oct 12, 2008 23:10:30 GMT -5
So there you have it. Every scrap of information I've managed to gather to date. As I said nothing gamebreaking, but in the old numbers v information game every bit of information helps. For some reason I was getting increasingly nervous about having all this information and getting nightkilled before I got to share it. (maybe it's because this is my first ever investigative role of any sort ) It's not exactly the bestest investigation power ever, so I doubt it will put me on the top of the scum's to-kill list.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 12, 2008 23:20:53 GMT -5
Scum wouldn't need to have that power, I don't believe, and I can't see how it would be useful to a PFK. Seems legit to me.
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Post by Zeriel on Oct 13, 2008 0:12:49 GMT -5
Devil's Advocate: that power would be very useful to scum in the case of people who have non-obvious or camouflaged abilities. So far, at best, peeker MIGHT fit this criteria, as did moleman. However, in general I agree with you--that sounds like a town power.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 13, 2008 0:32:46 GMT -5
How would it be powerful for scum to know of somebody's power when that person wouldn't be able to use said power to harm the scum anymore? It seems much more useful for a townie to be able to use that knowledge when looking back over past posts during a reread to root out scum.
That being said, it wouldn't be unheard of for town or scum to have a relatively useless power.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Oct 13, 2008 6:45:15 GMT -5
Updated for Smurf's claim:
The player list currently as stands with claims and confirms (confirmed town in blue, confirmed scum in red, confirmed 3rd party in orange):
Alive ------ 1. Zeriel 2. KidVermicious 3. NAF 4. Hoopy Frood - No claimed name -Mason/Special 5. mhaye 6. Almost Human (replaces Roosh) 7. Pollux Oil 8. chucara - Shadowcat - Watcher 9. bufftabby 10. Darth Sensitive 11. peekercpa - Archangel - Miller/Legacy Virus blocker and curer 12. misterblockey - No claimed name - Mason/Special 13. diggitcamara 14. Nanook - Thernodyne - Necromancer 15. Greedy Smurf - Cypher - Coroner 16. hawkeyeop 17. Santo Rugger - Persuasion - Redirector 18. FlyingDeadCowofGOB, Esq.
Dead ------ 21. molefan1981 - Arcade - Inventor - Lynched Day 1 22. Idle Thoughts - Dr. Cecilia Reyes - Protective - Nightkilled Night 1 25. sinjin - Rogue - Power Drainer - Lynched Day 2 20. Pleonast - Emma Frost - Investigator - Nightkilled Night 2 19. Boozahol Squid, PI - Nightcrawler - Backup (Investigator) - Lynched Day 3 23. Rysto - Colossus - Mason/Sacrificial Partially Bulletproof Bodyguard - Nightkilled Night 3 24. CatinaSuit - Sebastian Shaw - Strongman (Death) - Nightkilled Night 3
Claimed actions:
Night 0: ---------- No actions taken.
Day 1: -------- No claims.
Night 1: ---------- Nanook raises molefan Rysto protects xxxx Sinjin drains KidV, redirected onto Idle Santo redirects Sinjin onto Idle Something kills Idle peekercpa feathers someone FCOD is blocked chucara visits peekercpa, confirms that peekercpa did something and Toad showed up Greedy Smurf autopsies molefan/Arcade
Day 2: -------- Greedy Smurf autopsies Idle/Cecilia Reyes
Night 2: ---------- Rysto protects xxxx Rugger is blocked peeker is blocked chucara visits Nanook, confirms that Nanook did nothing but was visited by Apocalypse Something kills Pleo Greddy Smurf autopsies Sinjin/Rogue
Day 3: ---------- Boozy takes up mantle of investigator Greedy Smurf autopsies Pleo/Emma Frost
Night 3: --------- Rysto protects another mason Rugger redirects peeker unto himself peeker feathers someone, gets redirected to himself Chucara visits NAF, confirms that NAF did something that night and was visited by Longshot Something targets one of the masons, Rysto dies Something kills CIAS Greedy Smurf autopsies Boozy/Nightcrawler
Day 4: -------- No claims (yet)
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Oct 13, 2008 6:47:53 GMT -5
Forgot Bufftabby's name claim:
The player list currently as stands with claims and confirms (confirmed town in blue, confirmed scum in red, confirmed 3rd party in orange):
Alive ------ 1. Zeriel 2. KidVermicious 3. NAF 4. Hoopy Frood - No claimed name -Mason/Special 5. mhaye 6. Almost Human (replaces Roosh) 7. Pollux Oil 8. chucara - Shadowcat - Watcher 9. bufftabby - Multiple Man - No Claimed Power 10. Darth Sensitive 11. peekercpa - Archangel - Miller/Legacy Virus blocker and curer 12. misterblockey - No claimed name - Mason/Special 13. diggitcamara 14. Nanook - Thernodyne - Necromancer 15. Greedy Smurf - Cypher - Coroner 16. hawkeyeop 17. Santo Rugger - Persuasion - Redirector 18. FlyingDeadCowofGOB, Esq.
Dead ------ 21. molefan1981 - Arcade - Inventor - Lynched Day 1 22. Idle Thoughts - Dr. Cecilia Reyes - Protective - Nightkilled Night 1 25. sinjin - Rogue - Power Drainer - Lynched Day 2 20. Pleonast - Emma Frost - Investigator - Nightkilled Night 2 19. Boozahol Squid, PI - Nightcrawler - Backup (Investigator) - Lynched Day 3 23. Rysto - Colossus - Mason/Sacrificial Partially Bulletproof Bodyguard - Nightkilled Night 3 24. CatinaSuit - Sebastian Shaw - Strongman (Death) - Nightkilled Night 3
Claimed actions:
Night 0: ---------- No actions taken.
Day 1: -------- No claims.
Night 1: ---------- Nanook raises molefan Rysto protects xxxx Sinjin drains KidV, redirected onto Idle Santo redirects Sinjin onto Idle Something kills Idle peekercpa feathers someone FCOD is blocked chucara visits peekercpa, confirms that peekercpa did something and Toad showed up Greedy Smurf autopsies molefan/Arcade
Day 2: -------- Greedy Smurf autopsies Idle/Cecilia Reyes
Night 2: ---------- Rysto protects xxxx Rugger is blocked peeker is blocked chucara visits Nanook, confirms that Nanook did nothing but was visited by Apocalypse Something kills Pleo Greddy Smurf autopsies Sinjin/Rogue
Day 3: ---------- Boozy takes up mantle of investigator Greedy Smurf autopsies Pleo/Emma Frost
Night 3: --------- Rysto protects another mason Rugger redirects peeker unto himself peeker feathers someone, gets redirected to himself Chucara visits NAF, confirms that NAF did something that night and was visited by Longshot Something targets one of the masons, Rysto dies Something kills CIAS Greedy Smurf autopsies Boozy/Nightcrawler
Day 4: -------- No claims (yet)
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Post by Chucara on Oct 13, 2008 7:05:18 GMT -5
When looking at the list, I definitely think we should go ahead with the name claim. In fact, I find it very likely that most of the remaining scum are in the 9 players who haven't claimed yet.
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Post by Almost Human on Oct 13, 2008 7:53:19 GMT -5
When looking at the list, I definitely think we should go ahead with the name claim. In fact, I find it very likely that most of the remaining scum are in the 9 players who haven't claimed yet. I thought we were waiting for some random order thing but what the hell. Some of the colour may be useful if nothing else: Dunno how useful that is other than Mr Sinister my well be in the game but he'd already been mentioned anyway. That and Apocalypse may well be in the game but isn't necessarily the scum leader or even scum for that matter. I'm not sure how much faith to put in the colour though so YMMV. One part of my power was to find Rogue and recover my powers. This would have left her powerless but as she got caught out on Day 2 I only had a chance to look once. It was worth more to the town for her to die than for me to get my powers back so I left it at that. I checked out Santo for what it's worth and the reply I got back was. I've got one small power left but it could be useful so I'm going to leave that for now.
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Post by Hawkmod on Oct 13, 2008 8:00:32 GMT -5
When looking at the list, I definitely think we should go ahead with the name claim. In fact, I find it very likely that most of the remaining scum are in the 9 players who haven't claimed yet. Why would you say that? In my experience scum haven't any more hesitant to claim then town. Often times scum try to claim early in order to look extra townie. Pleo in YSI comes to mind. He revealed his traits before we even agreed that a reveal would be in the town's best interest.
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Post by Chucara on Oct 13, 2008 8:32:08 GMT -5
Hawkeye: Sorry, random order is fine with me too. I propose that the masons draw/decide this order then.
About the scum hiding in the unclaimed pile: It'd seem likely to me as the claims that are already there seem plausible to me. Sure, one of them might have claimed already, but that still leaves three. I could be wrong of course, but I'll be looking closely at the people in that pile for now.
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Post by Hawkmod on Oct 13, 2008 8:45:19 GMT -5
About the scum hiding in the unclaimed pile: It'd seem likely to me as the claims that are already there seem plausible to me. Sure, one of them might have claimed already, but that still leaves three. I could be wrong of course, but I'll be looking closely at the people in that pile for now. Okay. Just be careful with that. Scum are certainly capable of coming up with plausible claims.
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