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Post by Almost Human on Oct 28, 2008 9:41:18 GMT -5
Pretty simple. I didn't block peeker. I think I'm being pretty consistent here. Out of the two of you I'm far more inclined to believe Peeker. I think it's very unlikely there are two roleblockers left in the game which is the only other alternative I can see.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Oct 28, 2008 9:44:10 GMT -5
Also, if I at all read what hawk said correctly and Legacy is not 3rd party (and I don't believe it to be) then I can't see him being scum. Assuming he's telling the truth, of course. I'm not sure he is. Sure, he's the first one to place a vote on Darth, but Darth was a likely candidate toDay anyway. Also, I find it odd that hawkeyeop would be targeted for legacy as town when his death will out the final horseman. Especially since scum already decided to narrow that pool last night by whacking Rugger. Seems a bit self-defeating. Not to mention that something tells me that if you are town, and Legacy is being wielded by Plague, and the only place Plague can hide is between hawk and FCOD, and you happen to target Plague, at best you essentially wasted your power that night, and at worst something bad happens to you. If hawk dies of legacy, it's no different from a vigilante narrowing the pool of where the horseman can hide. (And it's unlikely we had another vig since Darth is still alive.) A townie for a scum is not a bad tradeoff, especially when we don't have to waste a lynch to do so. So unless you're sure hawk is town, I strongly recommend you don't help him toNight.
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Post by Chucara on Oct 28, 2008 9:44:29 GMT -5
Hmm.. Here is what I got from Story:
I'll just ask again, seeing as Pollux is purple..
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Post by CatInASuit on Oct 28, 2008 9:48:53 GMT -5
Honestly, Hoopy Frood have no idea at all. ;D
Personally, I am waiting for misterblockey, I mean Magik to turn up.
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Post by Chucara on Oct 28, 2008 10:08:31 GMT -5
Oh, so here's the deal:
I was not really supposed to have been able to see that NAF was targetted by Persuasion on night 5. Therefore, I was not able to see that Pollux Oil was targetted by Persuation now. But he was.
There is no indication that Pollux Oil was targetted by Darth Sensitive, which makes me convinced me that he is lying and that he is very likely to be Storm, unless he is also lying about being a blocker.
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Post by Hawkmod on Oct 28, 2008 10:25:03 GMT -5
Also, if I at all read what hawk said correctly and Legacy is not 3rd party (and I don't believe it to be) then I can't see him being scum. Assuming he's telling the truth, of course. I'm not sure he is. Sure, he's the first one to place a vote on Darth, but Darth was a likely candidate toDay anyway. Also, I find it odd that hawkeyeop would be targeted for legacy as town when his death will out the final horseman. Especially since scum already decided to narrow that pool last night by whacking Rugger. Seems a bit self-defeating. Not to mention that something tells me that if you are town, and Legacy is being wielded by Plague, and the only place Plague can hide is between hawk and FCOD, and you happen to target Plague, at best you essentially wasted your power that night, and at worst something bad happens to you. If hawk dies of legacy, it's no different from a vigilante narrowing the pool of where the horseman can hide. (And it's unlikely we had another vig since Darth is still alive.) A townie for a scum is not a bad tradeoff, especially when we don't have to waste a lynch to do so. So unless you're sure hawk is town, I strongly recommend you don't help him toNight. I thought the odds of me dying was only like 1 in 4? Maybe the scum had some other purpose in mind? I'm trying to find where Peek mentioned this. Peek, can you clarify?
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 28, 2008 10:33:55 GMT -5
Here I mentioned what, hawk?
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Post by Hawkmod on Oct 28, 2008 10:41:23 GMT -5
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 28, 2008 10:51:33 GMT -5
From my role PM Again, trust may be a difficult commodity to come by. But you do know something that the other mutants do not. One of the new Horsemen has come upon a strange new version of the dreaded Legacy virus which devastated the mutant community not so long ago. This edition of the virus will kill about one quarter of the mutants it infects, with none-too-pleasant side effects affecting those who survive it. You have managed to obtain a very small sample of this Legacy strain, and used it to develop an antivirus, which you have injected into your own blood. One of the mutant powers given to you by your former master Apocalypse was the ability to use your own blood to heal wounds and illnesses by mixing it with the blood of the wounded and ill; you, and you alone, possess the ability to protect the mutants gathered here from this particular threat. I've asked for clarification and have gotten typical story non response responses. And now that I read for comprehension I see where it is a horseman power and not some sort of third party.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Oct 28, 2008 11:05:24 GMT -5
Honestly, Hoopy Frood have no idea at all. ;D Personally, I am waiting for misterblockey, I mean Magik to turn up. Sure you don't. And, no, I don't want to buy your swampland in Florida. I still haven't ruled out the possibility you caused your own death in some way for some unknown gain. (Like Boozy in Gastard, or, well, you in Gastard, though, you were legitimately killed there, you just played from beyond the grave.) Heck it could be you caused your own death for the simple purpose of not being able to be targeted for anything. Regardless, I stand by what I said about keeping you around for a bit, both in-game and meta-game. But if you want to help us out for keeping you around by outing the rest of your fellow scum, we'd appreciate it....
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Oct 28, 2008 11:12:36 GMT -5
And now that I read for comprehension I see where it is a horseman power and not some sort of third party. Which is even moreso why targeting hawkeyeop toNight would be a bad idea. If we end up lynching FCOD, and he turns out to be a horseman, then you can target hawk, otherwise, there are far better choices. Oh, and speaking of, if FCOD and hawk want to make their cases for why they are not a horseman and the other one is, it wouldn't be a bad thing. It would spur discussion and get everyone on the recode. And on another side note, it's interesting to note that the three people who called for the masons to come out were: A third party player, NAF, who needed to find out who the horseman were, so by the masons coming out, he doesn't have to consider them. Someone indicated by two people to be a horseman, Darth. And a guy sitting in a pool with one other person that likely holds the remaining horseman, hawkeyeop.
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Post by CatInASuit on Oct 28, 2008 11:37:10 GMT -5
Honestly, Hoopy Frood have no idea at all. ;D Personally, I am waiting for misterblockey, I mean Magik to turn up. Sure you don't. And, no, I don't want to buy your swampland in Florida. I still haven't ruled out the possibility you caused your own death in some way for some unknown gain. (Like Boozy in Gastard, or, well, you in Gastard, though, you were legitimately killed there, you just played from beyond the grave.) Heck it could be you caused your own death for the simple purpose of not being able to be targeted for anything. Regardless, I stand by what I said about keeping you around for a bit, both in-game and meta-game. But if you want to help us out for keeping you around by outing the rest of your fellow scum, we'd appreciate it.... Please I have some class. I've got this bridge...... Hey, I get to be just like peekercpa. If I get investigated I come up as scum. Oh wait, it's because we are both on the same team. Hey, you did ask me to out my fellow scum.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Oct 28, 2008 11:57:34 GMT -5
Pretty simple. I didn't block peeker. I think I'm being pretty consistent here. Out of the two of you I'm far more inclined to believe Peeker. I think it's very unlikely there are two roleblockers left in the game which is the only other alternative I can see. Well, you keep believing the person that admits they investigate as scum. Oh, and Vote CiaS[/color] - gotta support the only non-Darth lynch out there.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Oct 28, 2008 12:21:14 GMT -5
Wow! WTF just happened...
Anyway, we now know the 3 remaining horsemen. CIaS (obviously), Darth Sensitive, and hawkeyeop. I am not a horseman, and I obviously have no way of proving it, but just consider my actions during the game. I haven't been hiding in the shadows, I have been very vocal, and not only that, but I've been wrong about lynches that I've pushed a few times. The only thing I can say is that scum usually don't put themselves out in the spotlight like that.
Anyway, I think we should lynch Darth (again) because he's obviously important if the scum prevented his lynch.
Vote Darth
--FCOD
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 28, 2008 12:47:05 GMT -5
If the general consensus of the players is that we lynch Darth again, then I can get behind that. The only reason I can see against it is if whoever created the storm is able to do it again. I'll consider a switch over tea.
Given the sequence of events Diggit experienced - has anyone caught a cold Overnight?
I have not. At least, I haven't been told I have, and no news is good news, right?
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Oct 28, 2008 14:19:44 GMT -5
If the general consensus of the players is that we lynch Darth again, then I can get behind that. The only reason I can see against it is if whoever created the storm is able to do it again. Well, if Darth is Storm, and he's able to keep doing this, the game would essentially be lost for town at this point, since we seem to have only had one vig and Darth is now unlynchable, barring someone being able to guarantee Darth's lynch (though if someone had that power, they could just have easily died at some point in the game still rendering the game unwinnable for town). Darth probably had a one-shot to stop a lynch if he's Storm. If Darth isn't Storm, and someone else saved him, it's unlikely to be a townie. If we fail at Darth again, we look at FCOD and hawk toMorrow regardless. The other option is to look at FCOD and hawk now, but I think an outed scum who's likely a blocker is a better lynch candidate than a likely plague wielder who's hiding amongst two players, even if one of those players (hawk) pings me more. But I'm fine voting either way if you guys think it's better to go fishing.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 28, 2008 14:31:21 GMT -5
If the general consensus of the players is that we lynch Darth again, then I can get behind that. The only reason I can see against it is if whoever created the storm is able to do it again. Well, if Darth is Storm, and he's able to keep doing this, the game would essentially be lost for town at this point, since we seem to have only had one vig and Darth is now unlynchable, barring someone being able to guarantee Darth's lynch (though if someone had that power, they could just have easily died at some point in the game still rendering the game unwinnable for town). Darth probably had a one-shot to stop a lynch if he's Storm. I hope it is only one-shot, or (as you say) we're stiffed. If that's the case, it's probably better to find out sooner rather than later. Unvote CatInaSuit. Vote Darth Sensitive
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Post by Chucara on Oct 28, 2008 16:11:30 GMT -5
Everyone: Before bringing the vote to a level that will allow scum to close the day, please wait for Pollux Oil to reveal his latest investigations.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 28, 2008 18:10:29 GMT -5
If the general consensus of the players is that we lynch Darth again, then I can get behind that. The only reason I can see against it is if whoever created the storm is able to do it again. Well, if Darth is Storm, and he's able to keep doing this, the game would essentially be lost for town at this point, since we seem to have only had one vig and Darth is now unlynchable, barring someone being able to guarantee Darth's lynch (though if someone had that power, they could just have easily died at some point in the game still rendering the game unwinnable for town). Darth probably had a one-shot to stop a lynch if he's Storm. If Darth isn't Storm, and someone else saved him, it's unlikely to be a townie. If we fail at Darth again, we look at FCOD and hawk toMorrow regardless. The other option is to look at FCOD and hawk now, but I think an outed scum who's likely a blocker is a better lynch candidate than a likely plague wielder who's hiding amongst two players, even if one of those players (hawk) pings me more. But I'm fine voting either way if you guys think it's better to go fishing. And while I floated this lead ballon yesterDay, toDay not so much. With twelve left. Four scum and maybe a third party the margins are kind of thin. And as others have stated if scum can defeat a lynch on an ongoing basis we have lost so we might as well get it over with. Additionally, if I keep getting blocked Legacy potentially doubles up the night kills. Better to take a sure thing. Meh, my two cents.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 28, 2008 18:38:06 GMT -5
And actually cat is an even more sure thing knowing story's reticence regarding mid game alignment changes. But have to go for the most likely scum role blocker.
Plus the weenie never changed his signature line. Even after I made it fairly innocuous. Welch on a bet equals a vote.
Speaking of Welch I have been listening to this young lady that is from Wales, I think (other side of the pond, anyways). Name is Duffy. Cripes, she's good.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 28, 2008 18:44:18 GMT -5
NETA
I probably should have gone along the lines of: "I go second after Santo. Of course, when she says "deeper" at least I can comply".
Just yakking kiddos. No offense intended.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Oct 28, 2008 20:30:37 GMT -5
No luck tonight guys. I tried to investigate hawkeye last night, but Santo redirected me to himself. On top of that, my investigation failed. I guess we found out Santo's alignment anyway. I'm pretty sure I wasn't blocked and it was just because of my role that left me without an investigation result, but I can double-check with storyteller to make sure. As for the Day's events...wow. Was not expecting to see CatinaSuit alive again. Also, considering Diggit's death and role, I have a feeling he might be coming back to life too. We'll have to wait and see I guess. I'm not going to vote for Darth yet since I don't want to start the countdown. But that's where my vote will go toDay.
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Post by Gir! on Oct 28, 2008 21:09:55 GMT -5
First Official Day Seven Vote Count:
CatinaSuit (1) – Darth Sensitive Darth Sensitive (7) – hawkeye, Chucara, Hoopy Frood, Almost Human, peeker, FCOD, mhaye
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 28, 2008 21:36:28 GMT -5
Ok. Here is where I stand and no damn formatting cause I am tired. Hoop and blockey are masons. Po and chucara have kind of cross claimed each other. Ipso fucto that makes me and buff non horseman and non sinister. Darth and cat are bad. One of the cow or hawk is fucking scum. If the "confirmed" stay with the easy ones I think we win.
That's the way to play this. If story has an unkillable scum then lay down.
And if po or chucker is sinister then we still have a couple of days but are most likely screwed.
No time like the present. String darth and let's move on or concede for all intents and purposes.
Then cat.
I won't protect hawk. If he is still alive then he's full of shit. If dead cowboy toasts.
And sorry mh and ah but I still am figuring this out.
Can I piss anyone else off.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Oct 28, 2008 22:03:19 GMT -5
No time like the present. String darth and let's move on or concede for all intents and purposes. Then cat. I disagree. I think Darth, then look for Plague. Then decide if lynching Cat or searching for Sinister is more important. But that discussion is probably best left for a later time unless someone has something particularly enlightening to throw out on the matter.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Oct 28, 2008 22:04:18 GMT -5
NETA: But other than that, your post pretty much echoes my general leanings.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Oct 28, 2008 22:43:13 GMT -5
Except for the part where my signature says "Hook em Horns" - If i could have figured out the code, it'd be puke orange too.
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Post by CatInASuit on Oct 29, 2008 4:15:57 GMT -5
Oh come on guys,
Why vote for the unknown.
Vote Scum
Vote CatInASuit
You know it makes sense.
I cannot understand why you guys are voting for someone you think is scum based on the notes of the leader of the Horsemen when there is a bona fide scum standing right here in front of you.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Oct 29, 2008 7:22:40 GMT -5
Also, considering Diggit's death and role, I have a feeling he might be coming back to life too. We'll have to wait and see I guess. The question is, will she come back as still being Town or will she switch to 3rd party? And if she switches to 3rd party, does she become a threat to us? We've been told there isn't any recruitment, so I can't see her joining scum, but if Jean Grey is posessed by Phoenix there's no guarantee that Phoenix is Town.
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Post by Hawkmod on Oct 29, 2008 8:25:11 GMT -5
Wow! WTF just happened... Anyway, we now know the 3 remaining horsemen. CIaS (obviously), Darth Sensitive, and hawkeyeop. I am not a horseman, and I obviously have no way of proving it, but just consider my actions during the game. I haven't been hiding in the shadows, I have been very vocal, and not only that, but I've been wrong about lynches that I've pushed a few times. The only thing I can say is that scum usually don't put themselves out in the spotlight like that. Anyway, I think we should lynch Darth (again) because he's obviously important if the scum prevented his lynch. Wait, your argument is that you have been blatantly wrong a bunch of times, and thus you can't be scum?? I mean I have been wrong in his game too, but I'm not going to argue it makes me town. Town needs to stop accepting this line of reasoning. It seems like I'm on this soap box every game. If we let scum behave as scummy as they like, under the guise of "no scum would act that townie" we will burned time and time again. We will have town members have to pretend to be scummy to stay alive. You may think scum would never be so blatent but they were in Apocalypse, they were in Conspracy, and they have been elsewhere. Why wouldn't scum put themselves in spotlight? There seems to be no consequence.
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