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Day 3
Feb 12, 2009 15:20:14 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Feb 12, 2009 15:20:14 GMT -5
Ok, that makes sense, in the same way voting for one mason was better then voting all three and the vote count is much closer Today.
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Day 3
Feb 12, 2009 15:22:45 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Feb 12, 2009 15:22:45 GMT -5
Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | Hal Briston | paulwhoisaghost | Chucara | shaggy | Hoopy Frood | Chucara | shaggy | peekercpa | Kat | paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | Chucara | Nanook | Chucara | shaggy | misterblocky | Natlaw | misterblocky | Chucara | molefan | Parzival | Chucara | Natlaw | Hoopy Frood | Pollux Oil | Chucara | Hal Briston | shaggy | crazypunker | paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | Chucara | misterblocky | Chucara | shaggy | Natlaw | molefan | Nanook | paulwhoisaghost | KidVermicious | peekercpa | paulwhoisaghost | Chucara | peekercpa | roxis | paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | Nanook | shaggy | misterblocky | Hoopy Frood | shaggy |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | Chucara | 23 (23) | Hoopy Frood, Nanook, Parzival, Pollux Oil, misterblocky | Hal Briston, Natlaw, peekercpa | Kat, crazypunker | paulwhoisaghost | 17 (17) | Hal Briston, Kat, crazypunker, peekercpa, roxis | molefan | | shaggy | 15 (15) | | Hoopy Frood, Kat, Nanook, crazypunker, misterblocky, roxis | Hal Briston, Pollux Oil, shaggy | misterblocky | 7 (7) | Natlaw, shaggy | | Nanook | Nanook | 4 (4) | molefan | | roxis | Hoopy Frood | 3 (3) | | shaggy | Parzival | Natlaw | 3 (3) | | Parzival | misterblocky | peekercpa | 2 (2) | | | Hoopy Frood, peekercpa | Hal Briston | 2 (2) | | Pollux Oil | | KidVermicious | 1 (1) | | | molefan | molefan | 1 (1) | | | Natlaw |
Not Voting: Chucara, KidVermicious, TDPatriots, paulwhoisaghost --FCOD
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Chucara
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Day 3
Feb 12, 2009 15:42:14 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Feb 12, 2009 15:42:14 GMT -5
Last time:
aubbys vote on day one makes no sense as scum. Scum usually play more careful that that. There was no way of explaining away that vote, so why would scum vote that way? Especially given that at the time, Ed wasn't in the lead.. Why risk another scum member for nothing?
Finally, my powers are as confirmable as they get. I understand you don't believe me, but if you don't lynch me, I can prove that:
a) I can block b) I can protect whoever I block
How can that be a scum role?
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Day 3
Feb 12, 2009 16:25:26 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Feb 12, 2009 16:25:26 GMT -5
TDpats, you got something to tell us? Is there a reason you aren't voting... again? Yeah, that I'm suddenly really really busy. In the middle of a job search and moving into a new apartment. As far as what to tell you guys, I can't decide on the order of who to vote for. That compounded with the fact that my scumdar as usual sucks... I'm late for my workout as it is, but since the Day is ending soon I'll see what I can get down in the next few minutes.
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Day 3
Feb 12, 2009 16:57:44 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Feb 12, 2009 16:57:44 GMT -5
So after catching up, if I got this right. pollux can find out what SSMB characters were cut from being in this game, and found a staff, td patriots lost or is in need of a staff, brokentree can not vote cause he was blocked by roxis who also gained another pokemon ball. Well that is alot, though I do find my self wanting to ask a few things. 1st if the staff came from a cut from the game PFK, which a jester is. But can be given and used in the game. So would it be another PFK, since that is who you got it from, or a TOWN player that you need to hand it to? I know it is hard to say, but it is some food for thought. This bugged me as I ran across it. Not really because it paints the Jester role as PFK when it was clearly scum - as mentioned before this might be a sign of skimming, which is kind of a null tell to me - but because it makes an attempt to paint me as potentially PFK with poor logic (forgive me if in my rush to post this so it can be read if I missed someone else mentioned my forthcoming point). Accepting for a moment that the Jester was PFK, the assumption shaggy appeared to be operating under, then there is no reason to assume another PFK - who by my understanding have unique win conditions - would have the same need for, or linked use of, a particular item. In any case, I think the true key to this equation is in fact Pollux Atarus Oil de Fuego's alignment. Because, given that the staff was in fact lost at the start of the game, and he is presumably the only character capable of finding it... then the question should be what would a role of Pollux's alignment do with it. This is all relevant to me because it seems like a potentially scummy kind of attack. His votes also seem kind of... well, thin. But then, I am not qualified in this game to be the arbiter of what makes a quality vote. 1. vote shaggy[/color] As far as brokenpaultreewhois, well, that's a strange role. Strikes me perhaps as something that may have been included to balance the game towards scum if it is indeed a town role. A mandatory weak town vigilante? First off I'm not sure if mandatory town vigilantes are all that beneficial to begin with, my limited experience means that I'm not very certain on that point. Meh, that train of thought is getting me nowhere. I guess I'm just left with the bit of WIFOM that has me wondering if his "well I'm just an almost dead townie" antics didn't start a little bit too early to be genuine... or if that is the result of him being just subbed in and already on the chopping block. His predcessor may have indeed been an overwhelmed scum... I'm not happy with this reason, but I'm gonna put... 2. vote paulwhoisaghost[/color] Reason being that I don't think chucara should be lynched ToDay. I want to give him a little bit of time to try self-confirming. It's not that I trust him per se, but if he claims to have a confirmable power, why not see what happens? If I've understood, say Pollux's power correctly, would it be very anti town if he was blocked at some point? Who is to say the Staff wasn't the most tangibly useful thing he was gonna find, is anyone else missing anything they'd care to share? The fact he even found it is semi-confirmable (as I definitely possess it now) so his powers are reliably proven in some sense, and if he doesn't show up with an uncovered fake PM and chucara says he roleblocked/protected him... wouldn't that mean semi-confirmed town? If chucara is indeed scum, nothing prevents us from lynching him later, right? I'm just saying this because dear God we lost a lot of town last night and I'm not sure lynching chucara would be the right play here. So for that reason, my third vote is a random placeholder on molefan just because he's near the bottom and in no danger of being lynched. 3. vote molefan[/color] Nothing personal moley!I'll be around until Dusk for any followups and I will be prompt with any responses, because it just so happens while I was typing this the treadmills at the gym became occupied (darn).
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Day 3
Feb 12, 2009 17:32:30 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 12, 2009 17:32:30 GMT -5
Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | Hal Briston | paulwhoisaghost | Chucara | shaggy | Hoopy Frood | Chucara | shaggy | peekercpa | Kat | paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | Chucara | Nanook | Chucara | shaggy | misterblocky | Natlaw | misterblocky | Chucara | molefan | Parzival | Chucara | Natlaw | Hoopy Frood | Pollux Oil | Chucara | Hal Briston | shaggy | TDPatriots | shaggy | paulwhoisaghost | molefan | crazypunker | paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | Chucara | misterblocky | Chucara | shaggy | Natlaw | molefan | Nanook | paulwhoisaghost | KidVermicious | peekercpa | paulwhoisaghost | Chucara | peekercpa | roxis | paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | Nanook | shaggy | misterblocky | Hoopy Frood | shaggy |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | Chucara | 23 (23) | Hoopy Frood, Nanook, Parzival, Pollux Oil, misterblocky | Hal Briston, Natlaw, peekercpa | Kat, crazypunker | paulwhoisaghost | 19 (19) | Hal Briston, Kat, crazypunker, peekercpa, roxis | TDPatriots, molefan | | shaggy | 18 (18) | TDPatriots | Hoopy Frood, Kat, Nanook, crazypunker, misterblocky, roxis | Hal Briston, Pollux Oil, shaggy | misterblocky | 7 (7) | Natlaw, shaggy | | Nanook | Nanook | 4 (4) | molefan | | roxis | Hoopy Frood | 3 (3) | | shaggy | Parzival | Natlaw | 3 (3) | | Parzival | misterblocky | Hal Briston | 2 (2) | | Pollux Oil | | molefan | 2 (2) | | | Natlaw, TDPatriots | peekercpa | 2 (2) | | | Hoopy Frood, peekercpa | KidVermicious | 1 (1) | | | molefan |
Not Voting: Chucara, KidVermicious, paulwhoisaghost
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Day 3
Feb 12, 2009 18:23:59 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Feb 12, 2009 18:23:59 GMT -5
Gah, rules vs my gut vs rules vs my gut
Rules are meant to be broken.
As much as I don't want to deal with two subs, I've been thinking, Chucara's role claim makes a lot of sense. There seems to be a lot of power out there and I'm going to go ahead and soft claim that I too, have a power, albeit minor. Thus I'm thinking this game has a lot of power roles. And one way to alleviate that would be to have a role like Chucaubby's on the town side. It conveniently vanilifies a group of people, balancing the mass of power.
Paulwhoisabrokentree I've been wavering on since I found out brokentree simultaneously subbed out of two games. I figure if he hits someone else that doesn't make sense then he should be a prime target.
In other words my rules say to go with one of them, but my gut is rebelling. What my gut is screaming though, is what in the world is going on with shaggy. It's gone beyond what I'd think is background shaggy levels.
so
Unvote
Vote 1: Shaggy Vote 2: Natlaw Vote 3: Nanook
the big change is putting Nanook back in. That's due to the way he dealt with the post restriction. So poorly that it feels more like an attempt at a plausible excuse for lurking now and in the future.
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Day 3
Feb 12, 2009 19:07:50 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 12, 2009 19:07:50 GMT -5
I guess I'm just left with the bit of WIFOM that has me wondering if his "well I'm just an almost dead townie" antics didn't start a little bit too early to be genuine... or if that is the result of him being just subbed in and already on the chopping block. In normal cases I wouldn't give him a pass for that. But this is his first time playing mafia, if I recall his other conversations on this board. Personally, I'd be a bit frustrated if my first game was as a sub into a role that was going to get lynched immediately regardless of my alignment. So I view that as a null tell.
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Day 3
Feb 12, 2009 19:14:58 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Feb 12, 2009 19:14:58 GMT -5
Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | Hal Briston | paulwhoisaghost | Chucara | shaggy | Hoopy Frood | Chucara | shaggy | peekercpa | Kat | paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | Chucara | Nanook | Chucara | shaggy | misterblocky | Natlaw | misterblocky | Chucara | molefan | Parzival | Chucara | Natlaw | Hoopy Frood | Pollux Oil | Chucara | Hal Briston | shaggy | TDPatriots | shaggy | paulwhoisaghost | molefan | crazypunker | paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | Chucara | misterblocky | shaggy | Natlaw | Nanook | molefan | Nanook | paulwhoisaghost | KidVermicious | peekercpa | paulwhoisaghost | Chucara | peekercpa | roxis | paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | Nanook | shaggy | misterblocky | Hoopy Frood | shaggy |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | Chucara | 20 (20) | Hoopy Frood, Nanook, Parzival, Pollux Oil | Hal Briston, Natlaw, peekercpa | Kat, crazypunker | paulwhoisaghost | 19 (19) | Hal Briston, Kat, crazypunker, peekercpa, roxis | TDPatriots, molefan | | shaggy | 19 (19) | TDPatriots, misterblocky | Hoopy Frood, Kat, Nanook, crazypunker, roxis | Hal Briston, Pollux Oil, shaggy | misterblocky | 7 (7) | Natlaw, shaggy | | Nanook | Nanook | 5 (5) | molefan | | misterblocky, roxis | Natlaw | 4 (4) | | Parzival, misterblocky | | Hoopy Frood | 3 (3) | | shaggy | Parzival | Hal Briston | 2 (2) | | Pollux Oil | | molefan | 2 (2) | | | Natlaw, TDPatriots | peekercpa | 2 (2) | | | Hoopy Frood, peekercpa | KidVermicious | 1 (1) | | | molefan |
Not Voting: Chucara, KidVermicious, paulwhoisaghost --FCOD
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