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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 18:46:13 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Feb 25, 2009 18:46:13 GMT -5
Sorry about the double post. I am playing through my wife via emails and she has both missed a couple of posts that I sent her, and isn't as familiar with message boards as I am. I recieved a PM back from Pedescribe confirming that I did indeed hit Nanook. Here it is: So, I stand by my theory. Now, to Peeker I apologize. I must have missed your bird in hand post. And I didn't realize that you were saying we should set Nanook aside and go after the next best thing. I still find it both sad and funny that you think the next best thing is my horrible slightly anti-town power. But whatever, I'm not convinced you are town either so it could just be you planting seeds of doubt. You are NOT ALLOWED to edit. Due to the unique circumstances of your ability to post, I'm not going to modkill you. But, I would like to see the original, unedited post. First, I apologize for not explaining to my wife that she is not allowed to edit. Second, she doesn't read the boards, just copy and pastes the emails I send her and go back to drawing her web comics. So, here is what happened, I asked her to quote the PM that Pedescribe sent me. I wasn't sure how to write the coding to do that, so I explained to her how to use the board's built in quoting mechanic from the PM. She posted what I emailed her, which included XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX where the quote was supposed to be pasted. After posting it she realized that she had not pasted the quote into the post and she editted it. I don't know how to show the original post. If there is a way to do it, I can talk her through it. I also have the email I sent her with a time/date stamp on it that I can forward to you Pedescribe if you would like.Again, I am sorry that this whole situation has been so messy. When I joined this game I did not know I would be going out to sea, and when I found out I was going I didn't want to have to sub out. Luckily it won't be much longer until I can post for myself again.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 19:03:01 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 25, 2009 19:03:01 GMT -5
You are NOT ALLOWED to edit. Due to the unique circumstances of your ability to post, I'm not going to modkill you. But, I would like to see the original, unedited post. First, I apologize for not explaining to my wife that she is not allowed to edit. Second, she doesn't read the boards, just copy and pastes the emails I send her and go back to drawing her web comics. So, here is what happened, I asked her to quote the PM that Pedescribe sent me. I wasn't sure how to write the coding to do that, so I explained to her how to use the board's built in quoting mechanic from the PM. She posted what I emailed her, which included XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX where the quote was supposed to be pasted. After posting it she realized that she had not pasted the quote into the post and she editted it. I don't know how to show the original post. If there is a way to do it, I can talk her through it. I also have the email I sent her with a time/date stamp on it that I can forward to you Pedescribe if you would like.Again, I am sorry that this whole situation has been so messy. When I joined this game I did not know I would be going out to sea, and when I found out I was going I didn't want to have to sub out. Luckily it won't be much longer until I can post for myself again. I saw the original post, and it looks okay. I'm not too worried, but you did break a rule, so...
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 19:04:42 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 25, 2009 19:04:42 GMT -5
Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | Hoopy Frood | crazypunker | peekercpa | KidVermicious | paulwhoisaghost | Natlaw | Kat | Crazypunker | peekercpa | shaggy | | | roxis | Natlaw | peekercpa | Kat | shaggy | peekercpa | Nanook | crazypunker |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | peekercpa | 7 (7) | shaggy | Hoopy Frood, roxis |   | Natlaw | 6 (6) | paulwhoisaghost, roxis | | | crazypunker | 5 (5) | Hoopy Frood | | shaggy, paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | 3 (0) | peekercpa | | | Kat | 3 (3) | | paulwhoisaghost | roxis | paulwhoisaghost | 3 (3) |   |   |   | Nanook | 2 (2) | | shaggy | | KidVermicious | 1 (1) | | | Hoopy Frood |
Not Voting: Kat, KidVermicious, Nanook, Natlaw, Parzival, Pollux Oil, crazypunker, molefan
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 19:28:51 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Feb 25, 2009 19:28:51 GMT -5
Kat!, who did you target night 2,3, and 4? I find it curious that you have a redirect ability, and Nanook was no where to be found that night. It might be a crazy conspiracy theory, but Kat's role (as a scum power) would support my crazy theory. Night 2, I targeted shaggy and aubby/ChucaraNight 3, I targeted Nanook and crazypunker and was told I could not find NanookNight 4, I targeted Natlaw and shaggy and had a power fail I also find it odd that both Kat and peeker woke up with headaches and they're two people I now believe to be scum. I don't get what the one has to do with the other. Please explain. Is the underlined Day/Night conflict pedescribe's fault or yours, Kat? It's pede's fault.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 19:37:45 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Feb 25, 2009 19:37:45 GMT -5
Interesting that it is a cole's notes for your role as a possed to a PM...Now I know you did say this: I am all for a mass role claim. It's just that you won't get a quoted PM, which I had difficulty doing in the past and will have to be a paraphrase. Sorry guys/gals I am not going to request a backup to pre upgrade info merely for purposes of this game. Which I have to say why is it hard or impossible to quote the PM? After all remember me last game with the coding of this board touble, yet I found no difficulty in cut and pasting it, in order to post my PM for this game. You high light it, cut it, go to the thread post it and add the quote tags before and after. Even players such as roxis which this is her first game on the board and yet she had no trouble. Makes me wonder and yes you can call this a smudge if you want and I am sorry if it is, but makes me wonder if this is geniune trouble in posting it or a way to avoid posting that there is no PM to really post in the first place. And as I said I am sorry if this is a smudge, I just find it really hard to grasp that a player, that has played multiple games on here, can still have that much trouble with the coding. Ok shag gonna come total clean. Everyone who has played with me knows that I don't have my own internet account. I play off my work issued BB. Check my e-mail, holy crap do you really think I set up a .org adress just for grins. Ok, so am I the only one in the world who accesses the internet from work or via a work provided device? So ALL of everything I do exists in the enterprise. All I was trying to convey was that I can request comfortably a restore of some sub files that say "Cost Report Data" or "Budget Information". But if you think I am walking into the IM Director's office and edict that I need "Mafia PM's" restored you have got to be kidding.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 19:40:34 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Feb 25, 2009 19:40:34 GMT -5
I don't get what the one has to do with the other. Please explain. They don't have anything to do with each other as far as I know. I said it was odd. A coincidence. It was just something I was noting - that two of my main suspects were the two to wake up hurt.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 19:42:47 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Feb 25, 2009 19:42:47 GMT -5
Shaggy, While I'm not against voting people based on metagame reasoning, I think that now is not the time. You concentrating on Peeker's metagame problem as opposed to coming up with a vote based on game facts. Please reconsider your vote and think about our priorities right now.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 19:47:31 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Feb 25, 2009 19:47:31 GMT -5
peeker, I think the point that shaggy is tryiing to make is that the PMs are stored on this board not on your BB. Up at the top of every page on this board, it should say "Hey, peekercpa, you have X messages, Y are new." Click on the "X message" part and it'll show you every PM you've received on this board and not deleted.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 19:58:54 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Feb 25, 2009 19:58:54 GMT -5
And this is metagame as all hell. If pede modkills, or would even consider it, paul I truly quit. He is trying to participate through an intermediary. I still think he is more than likely scum but that kind of end because of just mechanics means that we will have moved this game from fun to predatory. We all have our individual quirkiness on being able to communicate. If that is a standard that is inflexible....
Then, Meh.
Or, has it been decided that I can continue to attack his less than townie role. LOL, Paul - get back to your suffering wife (SO?). The inmates are probably creating consternation in the ghost household.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 20:10:17 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Feb 25, 2009 20:10:17 GMT -5
Okay so since all the roles are out on the table, I'll go ahead and reveal the two town scrapped roles I got.
This one I got on Night One:
Night Four:
I'll be back in a bit with another wild-ass theory.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 20:50:15 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Feb 25, 2009 20:50:15 GMT -5
And this is metagame as all hell. If pede modkills, or would even consider it, paul I truly quit. He is trying to participate through an intermediary. I still think he is more than likely scum but that kind of end because of just mechanics means that we will have moved this game from fun to predatory. We all have our individual quirkiness on being able to communicate. If that is a standard that is inflexible.... Then, Meh. Or, has it been decided that I can continue to attack his less than townie role. LOL, Paul - get back to your suffering wife (SO?). The inmates are probably creating consternation in the ghost household. Yaknow. I started thinking about this and I am wrong. We have rules to play this game. If someone violates those rules they need to pay the fine. I want us townies to win this but if it a result of manipulation that kind of stinks. Meh, my two cents.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 20:56:07 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Feb 25, 2009 20:56:07 GMT -5
NETA: since I am already convinced that paul is scum it kind of makes it easy for me.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 21:20:30 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Feb 25, 2009 21:20:30 GMT -5
Meh. My wild-ass theory I thought I had has way too many holes and I can't get it to make any sense so never mind.
Okay, so what I'm still having trouble reconciling is why why why was Parzival redirected while Kat and molefan simply failed at targeting Nanook. It just doesn't make sense. My guess is Parzival's switching to shaggy was that somebody purposefully redirected Parzival to shaggy, and it had absolutely nothing to do with Nanook.
So the role-claims. I don't like any of them. In addition, it's kind of noticeable that nobody's claiming to have anything to do with the headaches. So somebody's lying about their powers, and the headaches have are most likely to be either a scum power or a third-party doing something.
I really really really think we should not lynch Natlaw/Nanook toDay. Furthermore, those of you saying we should lynch Natlaw and give KidVermicious the protective power...wouldn't that be a bad idea if he's scum? Especially if we're thinking of having roxis use Ivysaur to try and vig someone.
In terms of who is scummiest aside from Nanook, I'm thinking either peeker or crazypunker. I'm trying to decide which is less believable, another roleblocker in addition to the superroleblocker and mini-roleblocker we already have, or a doctor that's only a doctor if all the other doctors die, but if he dies during the Day all the other doctors lose their powers.
Hmrf.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 21:38:04 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Feb 25, 2009 21:38:04 GMT -5
Furthermore, those of you saying we should lynch Natlaw and give KidVermicious the protective power...wouldn't that be a bad idea if he's scum? Especially if we're thinking of having roxis use Ivysaur to try and vig someone. It's a delayed protective power...so it wouldn't interfere with my vig at all, if I understand it correctly. Stop skimming, scum. <3 (kidding, if you couldn't tell?)
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 21:47:31 GMT -5
Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 25, 2009 21:47:31 GMT -5
W-o-w.
OK, here we go. Let's start with Peeker, who's just replaced KidV as my new fave "unconfirmed" suspect. (At this point I'm regarding Nanook as pretty much confirmed.) Three people have brought up the topic of Zelda somewhat surreptitiously. Two of them are confirmed scum, the third is Peeker. When he did it, it didn't look as though he were just questioning the others about what they were up to. He's never provided a satisfactory answer to this.
Peek, I gotta ask, have you given up? Because that's what it looks like.
Secondly, the KidV / Punker situation. I think it very likely that one of these two is scum, but given how hard they've been at each others' throats, it's extremely unlikely that both are. The KidV bandwagon was started by myself. Not a single one of my suspects joined it or suggested it could be correct until almost a week later, real-time. The Punker bandwagon, on the other hand, is based upon one uncredited copied piece of vote reasoning, a few bits of phrasing, and not a lot else. It was started by three total unconfirmeds, two of whom (KidV and Pollux) are big suspects to me right now, and the third (Paul) had every right to be angry at Punker for the vote thing. As regards their roles, I don't see anything preventing either from being scum, although this is the one piece of evidence where I'd give the townie edge to KidV for claiming early. All the same, I think it's obvious where my suspicions lie here.
Next, Pollux and Kat. This is a tough one, because there are strong points in both of their favour, yet I think one or the other of them is very likely to be scum. The first point in Pollux's favour is, of course, the fact that it's very difficult to fake PMs like the ones he claims to have received. The second point in Pollux's favour is the construction of the first PM he posted, stating that the mods had given up the idea of a scum doc. I can't see why he'd do this if he were scum. In Kat's favour, the fact that she couldn't switch Nanook. Both myself and Parzival, who at this point I think is very unlikely to be scum, can confirm that night actions directed at Nanook failed at that time. Again, I don't see why Kat would go ahead and claim this if she and Nanook were scum together. Then again, even if the scum knew for certain that someone else had visited Nanook, why wait for them to bring up the subject and risk looking like you're copying them? Kat's actions that day suggest that she's telling the truth.
My problem with Pollux is that the more I read over the details of his role, the more it screams "milkman" (which, for those of you who don't know, is a ridiculously elaborate fake role created by a player called Roosh who was scum in the "Mafia: Apocalypse" game that played here a while ago.) My second problem is that he's given us very little up until now, at which point all the roles have been outed. What if the scum have some way of confirming a role or roles that aren't in the game? Has anybody considered this?
And for my benefit, what exactly happened with that staff that was given to TDPats? There's no mention of it in the subsequent night thread, and then he winds up dead. I can't find any other reference to it.
As for Kat, Paul has suggested the scum have a role-redirector. I'm inclined to believe this, unless someone can suggest a better explanation for Paul's shot being redirected onto Parzival. Kat, at this point, is the only claimed redirector in the game. I don't know why she'd claim her real role, but it's quite possible she missed the suggestion that there was a scum redirector.
So that leaves the five scum as: Ed. Nanook. Peeker. KidV / CrazyPunker. Kat / Pollux.
A couple of other points:
1) Given my suspicions of KidV, I'm disinclined to lynch Natlaw. I'd rather leave Natlaw alive to use his power himself, in which case we can't lynch Nanook. Regardless of confirming anyone (and I think it's quite likely KidV is telling the truth about his role here) I really don't want to be depending on the hypothetical doc power of someone I think is a top scum suspect.
2) On the slim change Peeker isn't scum (in which case I'd put him down as some sort of Jester-type character), my next suspect would be Paul, since I don't think it's likely Kat and Pollux, or KidV and Crazy, are scum together. If Paul isn't scum, it's gotta be Shaggy or Parzival; but if it comes down to them, we're probably dead anyways.
3) I'm not ruling out another third-party role of the non-win-condition-changing variety (like Sachertorte's). Has this actually been confirmed by Pedescribe? If so, could someone quote where for my benefit?
4) I should quickly run through the others: Roxis and Hoopy, if they're scum, have won, since there's no way I'm going to lynch them and I can't see anyone else doing so at this point. I'm also pretty confident about Parzival after last night, and Natlaw. Shaggy is technically not cleared, but if he's scum after what happened to Blockey, I'd like to know why his actual role name was quoted in a public post. There's enough reasons to suppose that his role is actually a town one to satisfy me that he's not worth lynching.
OK, enough talk, let's get to the votes. I'm going to leave the Pollux / Kat situation aside for the moment since I can't choose between them given the information that I have. So here's how I'd divide it:
Vote 1 (three votes): Peekerpca. Vote 2 (two votes): Kid Vermicious. Vote 3 (one vote): Molefan1981.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 21:48:00 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Feb 25, 2009 21:48:00 GMT -5
It's a delayed protective power...so it wouldn't interfere with my vig at all, if I understand it correctly. Stop skimming, scum. <3 (kidding, if you couldn't tell?) But your vig power is delayed too, right? So if we lynch Natlaw toDay, and you vig toNight and KidV protects toNight, the delays would synch up if I'm not mistaken.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 21:59:12 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Feb 25, 2009 21:59:12 GMT -5
What if the scum have some way of confirming a role or roles that aren't in the game? Has anybody considered this? Can you explain this train of thought to me? I'm not sure I understand where you're going with it. Are you saying it's possible the scum have a way to know who's not in the game, and from that I'm fabricating fake role PMs? Unless I'm mistaken, isn't that just a more complicated version of saying I'm scum but I have the same role I claimed? I'm pretty sure TDPats said somewhere that he definitely got the staff from me. But that's basically it. My guess is it unlocked new powers for him or made his powers better...I dunno.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 22:11:21 GMT -5
Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 25, 2009 22:11:21 GMT -5
What if the scum have some way of confirming a role or roles that aren't in the game? Has anybody considered this? Can you explain this train of thought to me? I'm not sure I understand where you're going with it. Are you saying it's possible the scum have a way to know who's not in the game, and from that I'm fabricating fake role PMs? Unless I'm mistaken, isn't that just a more complicated version of saying I'm scum but I have the same role I claimed? I'm saying that you could have something like the "shopkeeper" scum role in Gastards, I guess. But if that's the case, you'd need some way to make sure that you didn't accidentally hit a "rejected" role that is actually in the game.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 22:21:26 GMT -5
Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 25, 2009 22:21:26 GMT -5
Also, I'm ignoring the possibility that you and Kat are both town and there's a completely unsuspected scum out there somewhere. Which at this point would be pretty bad.
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Day 5
Feb 25, 2009 23:34:37 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Feb 25, 2009 23:34:37 GMT -5
Lol Peeker trust me, I wish I could get back to her. And yes she is my wife. I think that's what you meant by (SO?) Significant Other right? Between the upkeep on this board and just receiving a PM from Mitey telling me that I have all but missed Day1 of Star Wars on FB, she is ready to quit. Poor girl had to copy and paste the source code of all 23 pages to me. Hopefully I won't be too late to get a vote and some posts into that game before the Day ends.
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Day 5
Feb 26, 2009 3:25:21 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Feb 26, 2009 3:25:21 GMT -5
It's a delayed protective power...so it wouldn't interfere with my vig at all, if I understand it correctly. Stop skimming, scum. <3 (kidding, if you couldn't tell?) But your vig power is delayed too, right? So if we lynch Natlaw toDay, and you vig toNight and KidV protects toNight, the delays would synch up if I'm not mistaken. I actually don't know anymore. I've reread my PM a couple times since then and I think it's just a regular vig.
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Day 5
Feb 26, 2009 5:23:05 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Feb 26, 2009 5:23:05 GMT -5
Yes, Paul SO is significant other. The fact that she married you means that you got a saint. Much like the peek missus.
I still don't think the bird in the hand is the right play but will ascribe to whatever all thinks best and is at least a safe fall back position. And just so I have a complete vote on the record so that I don't catch grief for that as well:
2. Vote Nanook 3. Vote Natlaw
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Day 5
Feb 26, 2009 5:25:18 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Feb 26, 2009 5:25:18 GMT -5
NETA
It"s the peek missus that's a saint, not Moi. Just so that we are clear.
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Day 5
Feb 26, 2009 6:42:48 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Feb 26, 2009 6:42:48 GMT -5
But your vig power is delayed too, right? So if we lynch Natlaw toDay, and you vig toNight and KidV protects toNight, the delays would synch up if I'm not mistaken. I actually don't know anymore. I've reread my PM a couple times since then and I think it's just a regular vig. Stay awake everyone! If we lynch me Today and KidVermicious absorbs my powers, he can attach a flask Day Six (or use my other Day action), protecting someone from kills Night Seven. If roxis uses Ivysaur Tonight, his target should die Day Six (barring interfering powers). His PM is pretty clear on that, so not sure why he now claims Ivysaur to be a normal vigilante.
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Day 5
Feb 26, 2009 7:02:06 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Feb 26, 2009 7:02:06 GMT -5
NETA: that should be: "why she now claims" All of the above assuming the PM posted are truthful. paul: you really think SCUM would be so stupid to out another one of their side (besides Sheik) to find out who Zelda was? special ed was already outed scum when he did. Based on that thought, peekers mention might not be scummy, but he did it quite stealthy ('And Zelda was mentioned somewhere, <fluff about playing a Zelda game>"). What if the scum have some way of confirming a role or roles that aren't in the game? Has anybody considered this? Yes, Pollux power claim seem truthful (or at least he had the staff), as TDPartriots did confirm receiving the staff the same Day it was given. Pollux could still be SCUM which can unearth cover roles though. The fact he even found it is semi-confirmable (as I definitely possess it now)
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Day 5
Feb 26, 2009 7:14:57 GMT -5
Post by harmless little bunny on Feb 26, 2009 7:14:57 GMT -5
In backreading a bit I thought of a couple of things. Hoopy mentions that he still thinks that the trophy is an extra kill in this post: Hoopy's crazy-ass mechanical guess #34: What if the thing that killed Charizard last night works like an opposite of Solid Snake. Instead of charging down when it's mentioned, it charges up. And it gets used when it hits a certain level. Either that, or it seems to only come out on even-numbered nights. I still think it provides an extra kill for SCUM. I thought it might be something to bypass protections, but if roxis is being truthful, clearly it didn't bypass her protection. That brings to mind a question: If Roxis blocked the trophy and that was an extra scum kill, then what happened to the regular NightKill? Nobody died right? Here is my theory: I put KidV to sleep. The scum had designated him to perform the nightkill. He couldn't perform any actions, and that is why there were no deaths. If Hoopy is right about the trophy being an extra kill then I am pretty certain that KidV is scum. Either way I was very suspicious of KidV anyways, and now I am even more certain of his scumminess. The only person I am more certain of is Nanook, but I would rather hold off on killing him to have Natlaw's power for a bit longer. Vote KidV 1 Vote Nanook 2 Vote Crazypunker 3
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Day 5
Feb 26, 2009 7:20:58 GMT -5
Post by harmless little bunny on Feb 26, 2009 7:20:58 GMT -5
I don't know why I didn't think of that before. Actually... I'm kind of surprised no one else thought of it either.
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Day 5
Feb 26, 2009 7:37:02 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Feb 26, 2009 7:37:02 GMT -5
I actually don't know anymore. I've reread my PM a couple times since then and I think it's just a regular vig. Stay awake everyone! If we lynch me Today and KidVermicious absorbs my powers, he can attach a flask Day Six (or use my other Day action), protecting someone from kills Night Seven. If roxis uses Ivysaur Tonight, his target should die Day Six (barring interfering powers). His PM is pretty clear on that, so not sure why he now claims Ivysaur to be a normal vigilante. If I use my power Night Five, and my target dies Day Six, that's a normal vig.
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Day 5
Feb 26, 2009 7:47:04 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 26, 2009 7:47:04 GMT -5
If roxis uses Ivysaur Tonight, his target should die Day Six (barring interfering powers). His PM is pretty clear on that, so not sure why he now claims Ivysaur to be a normal vigilante. Because that's how normal vigs work. Everyone who gets targeted for a kill at Night technically dies the next Day, since Dawn begins the next Day. That's why I prefer deaths to refere to Dawn and Dusk so there's no question of when. But however it's interpreted, it doesn't matter to much. Whether or not they die at Dawn or Dusk of the next Day, a kill of a townie brings us half a lynch closer to the end of the game. I've been thinking about it and I really think Roxis should not vig toNight. We have evidence of at least one redirector out there, both from actions and from a claim. I believe Kat is a redirector. I'm inclined to think she's scum rather than town, but like KidV, she sits on the lower end of my suspicion list. If roxis vigs, and scum have a redirector, she's almost guaranteed to hit town with the kill attempt. However, if roxis redirects, she creates a huge WIFOM with scum if scum have beneficial powers. She can try to redirect one scum onto another, and if that gets in turn redirected by the scum, it could be a beneficial power that hits a townie. Otherwise, the worst thing that happens is a destructive power that would target town anyway ends up targeting town anyway. And I agree with molefan's list. I find punker scummier than KidV, though. (He still hasn't even tried to explain his scummy "I look like I'm trying to be helpful, but when taken in context of the game it makes absolutely no sense at all." statement.) I also find Kat scummier than Pollux, though I find KidV scummier than both right now. But as I said, KidV and crazypunker going at it seems much more than scum posturing. I can easily change my vote to peeker first, though. I'm fine with a peeker lynch and due to the KidV/punker dichotomy, I fear a mislynch less.
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Day 5
Feb 26, 2009 7:56:36 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Feb 26, 2009 7:56:36 GMT -5
But if it was a normal vig (die at Dawn), the target wouldn't be able to notice the seeds, so I assumed they would die at Dusk the next Day. It could be earlier like Solid Snake's bomb, but then if the person doesn't log on for a day he still misses the seeds.
And Hoopy: that reasoning is why I was surprised at your earlier suggestion she should vig.
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