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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Mar 13, 2009 19:05:27 GMT -5
The small group of people who were still alive were holed up in the tea room. The room was small, easily defensible, and possessed a round table from which they could discuss without fear of secret communication--in theory.
Not that the decision was hard. Crazypunker was quickly fingered out, and, after a brief discussion, the one to die today. Pollux Oil was too love-drunk to help, so Shaggy backed Crazypunker into the stove, flanked by Hoopy and Parzival, who were backed up by Molefan and Kat. It seemed hopeless for Crazypunker, but he seemed happy enough, winking and babbling cheerfully. Molefan and Kat nodded to each other.
Suddenly, chaos! Kat grabbed Hoopy and dragged him back to a chair, and Molefan knocked Parzival away. Hoopy struggled to get back up, but there was to be no assistance for poor Shaggy. Punker grabbed his umbrella and thrust it into Shaggy's gut. Then, he opened it.
Shaggy, also known as Solid Snake (Town Living Bomb), is dead.[/color]
Parzival looked up, took stock of the situation, and fled, EEKing and OOKing all the way. Kat tied Hoopy to the chair, and Molefan restrained Pollux Oil, who was becoming more lucid. Crazypunker started brewing some tea. "Why would you do this, molefan?" Hoopy shouted. "Why would you betray us? Don't you care about us? Didn't you listen to us?" "Did you ever listen to us?", responded Molefan. "You saw the papers! You saw the journal in Tabuu's room. We were trying to help! We had noble intentions, it wasn't our fault you kept trying to kill us!" Hoopy spluttered. "What...you...Ha! That's a laugh. You were the ones who were killing us off! I'm sure you remember Lucario. Body disappeared two weeks ago, and the only evidence was a SCUM pamphlet on his bed." "Yeah!" added Pollux Oil. "And what about Lucas! And Kirby! And Link, and Samus, and Wario, and--" "Not us. Tell me, Pollux Oil, if we were behind those kills, why would we kill our own?" Pollux Oil fell silent. "We weren't trying to kill Lucario." explained Crazypunker. "We were trying to convert him. You know how he was, big on honor and all that. He would have been a valuble ally. He said he had to 'fact-check our story' before he would join us. And then he disappeared. Why would we kill him?" Hoopy was confused. "Well if you didn't kill him..." "It must have been Hal!" said Kat, putting the pieces together. "Everyone knows Lucario replaced Mewtwo. Hal was the only other one with killing powers...then that jar... the one in his room..." "Was Lucario's disintegrated remains." finished Molefan. There was an awkward pause.
Molefan whistled, shrilly and sharply, and a sea of pikmin flooded into the tea room. Everyone looked surprised, even the other scum. "Where did you get all those Pikmin?" asked Kat. Molefan grinned triumphantly. "I got them because dead bodies make more Pikmin." In the background, a squad of pikmin picked up Shaggy's dead body and carried it off. "Now listen!" Molefan turned and addressed the pikmin. "Outside, there is a large, round building. I want you to destroy it! Bash it into the ground! There will be no more gladiatorial fights here, I swear it! And after that...we're going home!" He opened a hatch on his disguise and hopped down, running out with the rest of the pikmin. "And I can finally see my family again..." he added wistfully.
The two townspeople had stopped struggling, so Kat started to untie them. "I, too, shall leave. You say you saw Samus's dead body?" Pollux Oil nodded. "Then there is nothing for me here. I think I shall settle down, find some sparsely populated planet and carry out the rest of my days there. I've had enough adventuring for one lifetime." And then Kat blasted a hole in the roof and jumped out, flying away from Earth.
The teapot whistled. As crazypunker served the tea, he kissed Pollux Oil on the cheek. "Well, will you help me take down Nintendo? We may have kept them from their exploits here, but I doubt they will be destroyed from this alone." "Well..." Hoopy hesitated for a bit. "Well...okay. I pledge my hammer to your cause. I believe Pollux Oil will help as well." Pollux Oil nodded. "I'd pledge Parzival's support as well, but I have no idea where he is...
Meanwhile, in Hollywood: "Didja see me? Didja see me? Wasn't I awesome? I mean, that was some high quality sidekicking I did out there! And that was one hell of an incident, wasn't it?" Parzival was in a smoky office, talking to a movie producer. "Indeed, Mr. Parzival, you did kick some ass, to use the colloquial. I believe you would be perfect for my next production." "Sweet!"
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Mar 13, 2009 19:07:15 GMT -5
CONGRATULATIONS
The SCUM: peek--Tabuu (Scum Godfather) crazypunker--Princess Peach (Scum Poisoner/Inventor) Kat--Dark Samus (Scum Bus Driver) molefan--Captain Olimar (Scum Minion Master) Nanook--Sheik (Scum Ninja/Lover) Mr. Spec Ed--King Dedede (Scum Mason/Roleblocker) won!
Parzival: Parzival--Diddy Kong (Third Party War/Sidekick) also won!
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Post by Holy Moley! on Mar 13, 2009 19:10:52 GMT -5
So what exactly was Parzival? I thought he might be PFK when he empowered Punker instead of me, because of course I knew that Kat didn't switch those two; but I was never certain.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 13, 2009 19:12:43 GMT -5
Just wanted to point out that if Molefan had claimed to investigate KidV and that he turned up scum they could have won this on day 6. At that point Molefan had more than enough Town Cred to pull it off and a KidV lynch at that point would have made it 4-4 and after the night kill the scum would have controlled the vote.
But, that's not the way it happened and a big congratulations to the scum... Well done.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Mar 13, 2009 19:13:55 GMT -5
So what exactly was Parzival? I thought he might be PFK when he empowered Punker instead of me, because of course I knew that Kat didn't switch those two; but I was never certain. He won if four conditions had been met:
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 13, 2009 19:14:26 GMT -5
Good game Pede! I enjoyed my brief part in it... since I subbed in I won't be claiming the loss on permanent record though
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Post by Holy Moley! on Mar 13, 2009 19:15:47 GMT -5
Just wanted to point out that if Molefan had claimed to investigate KidV and that he turned up scum they could have won this on day 6. At that point Molefan had more than enough Town Cred to pull it off and a KidV lynch at that point would have made it 4-4 and after the night kill the scum would have controlled the vote. But, that's not the way it happened and a big congratulations to the scum... Well done. LOL, we could've won this on day 5 if I'd killed Pollux instead of either Roxis or Hoopy and one of Peeker and Punker wasn't having internet difficulties... As for "investigating" KidV, there were too many unknowns then still. We didn't know all the powers, and - and I mean this in the nicest possible way, KidV - I really didn't want to go up against him! Also, I FINALLY GOT TO KILL SOMEBODY! Yay! Now open the spoiler board please!
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Post by Gir! on Mar 13, 2009 19:19:23 GMT -5
I'd like to point out that molefan was freaking awesome in this game.
Read the scumboards to see!
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Mar 13, 2009 19:23:08 GMT -5
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Post by KidVermicious on Mar 13, 2009 19:29:10 GMT -5
As for "investigating" KidV, there were too many unknowns then still. We didn't know all the powers, and - and I mean this in the nicest possible way, KidV - I really didn't want to go up against him! Well, that's something anyway, and it's good to know that my scumdar is not as defective as I thought it was. Nicely done, guys.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 13, 2009 19:37:29 GMT -5
Just wanted to point out that if Molefan had claimed to investigate KidV and that he turned up scum they could have won this on day 6. At that point Molefan had more than enough Town Cred to pull it off and a KidV lynch at that point would have made it 4-4 and after the night kill the scum would have controlled the vote. But, that's not the way it happened and a big congratulations to the scum... Well done. LOL, we could've won this on day 5 if I'd killed Pollux instead of either Roxis or Hoopy and one of Peeker and Punker wasn't having internet difficulties... As for "investigating" KidV, there were too many unknowns then still. We didn't know all the powers, and - and I mean this in the nicest possible way, KidV - I really didn't want to go up against him! Also, I FINALLY GOT TO KILL SOMEBODY! Yay! Now open the spoiler board please! I was speaking from a town PoV. I feel like you would have pulled it off smoothly. Everyone was slightly suspicious of KidV anyway. And none of us knew what powers were there. Anyway, you played an awesome game and I can't wait to face off against you Mole
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 13, 2009 19:46:18 GMT -5
Woot woot. Way to go Barb and crout. Very nicely executed. And has been noted this puppy should have been over days ago.
Moley, please stand up and accept your Oscar.
And I have read some of the visceral stuff. Flippin' Ed gets a supporting Oscar nom at least. Day two was brilliant from a scum standpoint.
Also, punk, whatever you did last night for the no vote is kind of cool.
And nook, me sorries. I had you saved, my bad.
Kat, as always, you did what we needed to do to win.
Trash talk. Town never really had a chance against this crowd.
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Post by Natlaw on Mar 13, 2009 19:52:26 GMT -5
Oh noes, that means all my flasks were wasted Real nice play with Kat! and molefan not finding Nanook. And here I was hoping we could this win (completely blind about molefan since I protected him). Borda voting got us in the end as well (though that's more a cherry on top, since with three scum left and Pollux not voting it would have ended fast anyway). Really hard numbers for town I think, though maybe Hal hit list was mostly SCUM? 6 is 1/4 of 24, but I guess with kills killing of most protectors, town killing both masons (stupid why didn't we vig special ed N2 instead of wasting a Day on him - bah hindsight) and me protecting nothing we were pretty screwed . Congrats SCUM! And Parzival, go monkey!
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 13, 2009 20:00:53 GMT -5
Parzival, were you supporting Molefan because you thought he was town or did you have an inkling he was scum and were trying to push the town to LyLo? I truly thought you were town and had been suspecting Molefan when a body turned up dead with little holes in it. I thought you were making major mistakes trusting molefan and Sidekicking him that whole time... turns out, it worked in your favor.
On another note, kinda funny that you were 3rd party and a Side Kick. SK?
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Mar 13, 2009 20:03:22 GMT -5
Oh noes, that means all my flasks were wasted Real nice play with Kat! and molefan not finding Nanook. And here I was hoping we could this win (completely blind about molefan since I protected him). Borda voting got us in the end as well (though that's more a cherry on top, since with three scum left and Pollux not voting it would have ended fast anyway). Really hard numbers for town I think, though maybe Hal hit list was mostly SCUM? 6 is 1/4 of 24, but I guess with kills killing of most protectors, town killing both masons (stupid why didn't we vig special ed N2 instead of wasting a Day on him - bah hindsight) and me protecting nothing we were pretty screwed . Congrats SCUM! And Parzival, go monkey! Hal had to make sure everyone alive was on his list: Ness Yoshi Pokemon Trainer Mr. Game & Watch Olimar Dark Samus and Mewtwo. Two of those were scum.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Mar 13, 2009 20:04:46 GMT -5
Oh, and the headaches came when Hal failed on his 50% kill rate.
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Post by roxis on Mar 13, 2009 21:10:16 GMT -5
Seriously, wow. Never would have guessed, molefan. Congratulations, well played to all of you. And thanks for the compliment D1, peek.
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Post by shaggy on Mar 13, 2009 21:16:20 GMT -5
well kinda sucks I died, i supose this show's the draw backs to the borda vote system, since it alloud the scum to force a lynch we did not want. But it was a fun game and i learned alot. Hopefully next time I am not so spasomatic, and jump the gun and off a town person by accident. So sorry blocky .
Congrats to the SCUM! Verry well played, by you all.
Especially mole . Cause I was a little suspicious of you at times, but could not find anything really on you. That is why I even did the voting history to try and find anything but was like, gee still nothing! You played so well.
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Post by roxis on Mar 13, 2009 21:19:40 GMT -5
Oh, hey, what did TD's staff do?
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Mar 13, 2009 21:25:11 GMT -5
Oh, hey, what did TD's staff do? TD could find alignment. TD + staff could find alingment + role.
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Post by Parzival on Mar 13, 2009 21:37:05 GMT -5
Parzival, were you supporting Molefan because you thought he was town or did you have an inkling he was scum and were trying to push the town to LyLo? I truly thought you were town and had been suspecting Molefan when a body turned up dead with little holes in it. I thought you were making major mistakes trusting molefan and Sidekicking him that whole time... turns out, it worked in your favor. On another note, kinda funny that you were 3rd party and a Side Kick. SK? My very first PM made me think I was 'PFK' before the clarifications about win conditions & 'Third Party'. Part of the role that I tried to fill out in spirit even though it was unnecessary was the 'war' alignment; to make the game last as long as possible. I was fairly confident Molefan was town - when I sidekicked him at any rate. That was done to give me pro-town cred. Though by the last Day I was beginning to suspect him. I sort of got the feeling he knew I'd helped crazypunker. I actually went for Nanook because I suspected him of being scum. At some point I wanted to make sure the scum knew I could help them, and for quite a while I really thought Pollux was scum. I also wasn't sure if the scum knew how close they were to winning or not. Sidekicking crazypunker was an attempt to make sure that the scum knew I wasn't totally against them. Another aspect of my role was that since it was crucial to my win, I was told when the town as at lylo. Which was true for the last several days (going back to Nanook). Go SCUM! I got me an acting job! (I modified my PM slightly — the color was that I was only here to try to land a job with an outside agency; some of that is still in the one I posted).
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Post by Nanook on Mar 13, 2009 22:18:42 GMT -5
I told you I had a post restriction. All this love for Molefan and none for me. Bah, just because I was hiding in the shadows like a good little ninja. The game should have ended the day I was lynched. Punker and Peeker would supposed to come in and pull off the vote switch thing, but they failed. It worked out fine, since lynching me didn't hurt us really.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 13, 2009 23:01:42 GMT -5
Huh. Well, first of all, congrats to the scum. Nice play by all of you indeed. And secondly, good game pedescribe, it was fun to play in and you were a good mod. That being said...either this game was a bit unbalanced in the scum's favor, or it was properly balanced, just everything possible went in the scum's favor and the town got absolutely no breaks. Logistically speaking (and putting aside the "is lynching a third party a mislynch" debate), town lynched four non-town out of six lynches AND had a night with no kills...and yet we still lost, and not an edge of the seat, down to the wire loss either. This was a scum are awesome, look at us trounce the town loss. This is not trying to take away the scum's victory or be an insult to pedescribe's hosting ability, by the way. The scum played very well and there were some very bad errors on the town part. But overall, I think the town really got screwed in the Nightkill department. I'll have to take a closer look at the set-up when I'm not so bloody exhausted, though. Also, I think we should case study pede's three Borda Count games...as I think the Borda Count voting style needs to be factored into balancing just considering this outcome, although I'm not sure how it factored into his other games. All in all, good game everyone.
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Post by sinjin on Mar 13, 2009 23:10:51 GMT -5
Call me a sore loser but I'm still pissed, heh, in more ways than one, that I lost my town power on Night 1 and got offed the next for drinking in the night threads. Off me because I play bad or you don't like me or I made you piss blue in the last game. But don't off me because I take a drink in the night thread. I really did not like this mechanism.
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Post by Nanook on Mar 13, 2009 23:32:41 GMT -5
I agree with Sinjin. The poisoner role is a neat one, but to tie it to OOG fluff is not really kosher.
I think Borda count actually favors scum slightly, but only very slightly. If you look at one of Molefan's pms to Pede you'll see it laid out pretty well. The fact that people MUST vote for three opens us the possibility of a last minute rush, which will almost always be done by scum to bumrush a townie. Hell, we almost pulled it off TWICE.
Pollux, I don't think the balance was that bad. What happened was it was a VERY bloody game, and basically every single extra kill was of a townie. The lynch record doesn't matter all that much in that situation, it was the NKs that wrecked Town.
BTW, Town should totally thank Zeriel. If he hadn't unilaterally decided to out the Scum mason, we were totally prepared to lay waste to the non-scum masons and have Ed claim immediately at the start of Day 2. He would have been unlynchable at that point, and the whole game would have been academic.
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Post by Natlaw on Mar 14, 2009 1:39:13 GMT -5
Yeah, if Hals kill of Kat and peeker had gone through, it would have been a different game. On one hand the random chance leads to unsuspected happenings, but if you are against ties because you have to flip a coin, then the same argument goes for % chance powers. So I think they would work better as limited charges or as one kill every other Night. As for my governor power, I couldn't see any situation where it would be useful (maybe in a town-buy-last-minute-claim like MHaye did in Evil Dead). It might be better combined with an investigation role, since then you can actually have clue that you're stopping a town lynch. I haven't checked all roles yet, but what was Jigglypuff supposed to block? His power seems to anti-town. Well, as said I made myself worse than vanilla with the self-protects and being completely wrong about Captain Olimar. The lure of him self-protecting, so I wouldn't waste a flask was too big (and then not switching because it added the risk again). I guess him not investigating the last Day was really scummy . Nanook on spoiler board: I didn't see a reason for town to do it with a PFK around, essential giving him a double kill. And since I know I was town, even if we were town-town, it would be giving scum a double kill. And if you're scum, but not Sheik, it would basically out two SCUM for no reason. A town lover could claim early, if there is no Serial Killer, since then a vigilante could takes us out without wasting a lynch. My self-protect and you (supposed) Ninja power foiled that.
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Post by MiteyMouse on Mar 14, 2009 5:18:26 GMT -5
Great game everyone! Congrats SCUM! Thanks for hosting us Ped and FCOD...it was fun even if I get to hang my head in shame for being the first person lynched!
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Post by Holy Moley! on Mar 14, 2009 6:05:50 GMT -5
Yeah, if Hals kill of Kat and peeker had gone through, it would have been a different game. On one hand the random chance leads to unsuspected happenings, but if you are against ties because you have to flip a coin, then the same argument goes for % chance powers. So I think they would work better as limited charges or as one kill every other Night. As for my governor power, I couldn't see any situation where it would be useful (maybe in a town-buy-last-minute-claim like MHaye did in Evil Dead). It might be better combined with an investigation role, since then you can actually have clue that you're stopping a town lynch. I haven't checked all roles yet, but what was Jigglypuff supposed to block? His power seems to anti-town. Well, as said I made myself worse than vanilla with the self-protects and being completely wrong about Captain Olimar. The lure of him self-protecting, so I wouldn't waste a flask was too big (and then not switching because it added the risk again). I guess him not investigating the last Day was really scummy . Nanook on spoiler board: I didn't see a reason for town to do it with a PFK around, essential giving him a double kill. And since I know I was town, even if we were town-town, it would be giving scum a double kill. And if you're scum, but not Sheik, it would basically out two SCUM for no reason. A town lover could claim early, if there is no Serial Killer, since then a vigilante could takes us out without wasting a lynch. My self-protect and you (supposed) Ninja power foiled that. Ah, but you see I used up all my Pikmin when I investigated Punker. I only had two left. I agree with Nanook about the Borda voting, the astonishing thing to me is that the townies never once seemed to see it coming, even after KidV was lynched. If Kat was lying about her redirect, there was a really, really obvious (IMO) reason to take out a suspected townie - and nobody ever seemed to grasp it.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Mar 14, 2009 7:44:26 GMT -5
Cvrses, another entry in the "lost" column!
Good game thanks Pedescribe.
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 14, 2009 9:10:38 GMT -5
And with all the hoochie kooing with the gang I totally forgot:
Thanks Ped and Fcod. Great game fellers.
I like Borda but its weakness was exposed. As Coca Cola pointed out, if two of us had not had connection issues this puppy would have ended two Days ago.
And I gotta be totally frank. When I saw moley as part of our team I was thinking, oh crud, meltdown in waiting. But you got to give it up. He played perfect. Crud if it would have gotten down to three hand we still had it won.
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