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Apr 10, 2009 21:01:42 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Apr 10, 2009 21:01:42 GMT -5
I know it has been addressed but, Mitchy, I don't see any reason why you should need to lie if you are Town. If you are Scum you are welcomed to be truthful and tell us that too...hehehe!
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Day Two
Apr 11, 2009 2:38:40 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Apr 11, 2009 2:38:40 GMT -5
I know it has been addressed but, Mitchy, I don't see any reason why you should need to lie if you are Town. If you are Scum you are welcomed to be truthful and tell us that too...hehehe! That's the point I was trying to get to... I don't see anything being gained by someone claiming they are scum (maybe it does happen now and then) But all is to be gained by claiming town. I think that Paul has nothing to gain from defending me as with the votes as they stand it's me for the lynching. He would be safe. He could sit back be quite and know that as it stands at the moment he can sleep pretty safe in his bed when night comes. Of course perhaps me defending him now makes me seem pretty scummy. But as Paul has made a claim and I have no reason not believe it... Why would he carry on defending me when as he said.. He has no idea which side of the fence I am on. Still people seem pretty set on concentrating on us two for the time being. Until someone feels that they want to add to my penalty vote tally and give a reason for doing so, I'm going to hang back and just watch from the side lines.
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Apr 11, 2009 5:41:23 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 11, 2009 5:41:23 GMT -5
I took a look at Pede Scribe and found this: Day 1 #17 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=1#43757Surprised that Idle is in the game. Suspects he is the Jester. #46 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=2#43801His case for Idle being the jester. #56 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=2#43814Respond to Bufftabby regarding Idle as the jester. #61 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=3#43822"The Jester wins when he or she is lynched." #69 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=3#43830"the scum would be more eager to lynch a jester, since it would be a suspicion-free target that's not one of theirs." #73 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=3#43835Votes Paul for being "eager to lynch the hypothetical Jester and because his joke in the Night 0 thread is the sort of thing I would do as scum to buy some 'scum would never do that' cred later on." #84 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=3#43859Fluff re Idle's role #103 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=4#43890Speculate on roles and color #104 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=4#43891Conclusion after speculation regarding roles and color #106 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=4#43897Unvotes Paul and votes Hawkeyeop for lurking #117 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=4#43922Respons to ED re Temple as Masons #125 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=5#43936Respond to ED re if modkills will give us any revelation on alignment #138 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=5#43954Mod-question: "Specifically, if a person is modkilled for non-participation, would their role/alignment be revealed?" #139 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=5#43955"Obviously, if we do get alignment info, it's to our benefit to have them mod-killed." #142 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=5#43960"In that case, I'm sticking with my vote. And railing against this particular convention, but that's a different issue" after KAT said assuming no reveal would be safe. #192 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=7#44050Respons to Nanook for his vote on Pede Scribe. "Dude, it's Day 1" #201 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=7#44070Unvotes Hawkeyeop. Votes Nanook for "attempting to stifle discussion" #229 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=8#44123Respond to Hawkeyeop that the post on roles and color didn't take long and "I was trying to bring up a point for discussion" + don't like the case on Idle and votes ED for having the weakest vote (after unvoting Nanook) #269 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=849&page=9#44174Worked on the roles/color "because I had time" but "after Idle's revelation, it appears I was way off". Day 2: #5 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=869&page=1#44439Sad we lost the immunizer + appears Idle was telling the truth + "what's up with the note?" #22 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=869&page=1#44469Suspect the immunizer protected a aplyer from recruitment #78 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=869&page=3#44588Vote Nanook "still suspicious of his attempts to stifle discussion" #85 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=869&page=3#44601"never been a fan of the insta-modkill for editing anyway" #87 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=869&page=3#44605"don't really get the Paul case" #110 psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wat&action=display&thread=869&page=4#44638Unvotes Nanook and votes Paul for "I wasn't suspicious of Paul before, but his 'lynch me, I'm vanilla' act is coming off as facetious to me" Vote: Pede Scribe The way he voted both yesterDay and toDay seems to be very "safe". A vote on Nanook for "stifle discussion" when he don't have anything else to go by and when he sees a player getting a lot of heat he unvotes Nanook and votes for Ed (Day 1 # 229) or Paul (Day 1 #73 and Day 2 #110). The votes for Paul seem a bit weird when you look at #87 (Day 2) where Pede Scribe "didn't get the case on Paul". A big part of by vote is based on Metagaming. But in the scumthread of Star Wars Pede Scribe did early in the game speculate on color/roles and he also said to his scumbuddies that it was a really great tactic to use as scum. It was a safe way to appear Town and be vocal without saying much. And that's what he seems to be doing in this game as well.
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Apr 11, 2009 6:08:11 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 11, 2009 6:08:11 GMT -5
[/color] [/quote] Or at least that is what I would do - if I could vote!
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Apr 11, 2009 9:47:30 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Apr 11, 2009 9:47:30 GMT -5
I'm not really felling any of the vote leaders right now. Moody hasn't done anything scummy, and I'd consider it pretty scummy to vote for him (unless someone can find a reason anyway). Paul strikes me as town, or a very convincing scum acting town. As moody said himself, why would scum Paul need to defend moody, a relatively easy lynch.
I'll cast my vote for who I find the most scummy right now:
vote Shaggy
He strikes me as having taken the lowest profile path with comments and votes the last two games.. Basically what I'd be doing if I were scum.
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Apr 11, 2009 10:37:39 GMT -5
Post by shaggy on Apr 11, 2009 10:37:39 GMT -5
Wanted to check the board quickly before I rush off for easter celebrations at my parents... I do have to comment on: I'm not really felling any of the vote leaders right now. Moody hasn't done anything scummy, and I'd consider it pretty scummy to vote for him (unless someone can find a reason anyway). Paul strikes me as town, or a very convincing scum acting town. As moody said himself, why would scum Paul need to defend moody, a relatively easy lynch. I'll cast my vote for who I find the most scummy right now: vote ShaggyHe strikes me as having taken the lowest profile path with comments and votes the last two games.. Basically what I'd be doing if I were scum. First off, I work 10 hour shifts, and then have to share a computer with someone here. So yes I may not be as big of a poster, but I can not do much of that. Seconed, I am not usually a fan of meta game geussing based on past games there, but in this case of you using it, I feel I have no choice. So let's see if I got this right. Because my style has not changed from the last 2, when I was not scum but town...I in this one, when playing the same way as those games...am playing scummy? Maybe it is me, but I am not following the logic and good reasoning train here. I may not fully agree with, but I do understand the reasoning and logic for using the "he is playing differant this game as past ones and therefore I think scummy thoughts" argument some people use. However in this case playing the same? Now I know past games make no differance with current one's, but seriously this just screams with verry poor and bad logic to me. But then maybe it is just me here being an idiot and not getting it. I know tommorrow I will have a full day off alone, to relax around the house. So I plan on rereading this day and the last, and come up with a much better contributing analysis of my thoughts for people and this game.
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Apr 11, 2009 11:20:37 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Apr 11, 2009 11:20:37 GMT -5
yeah.... that sucks... I think that puts Moody a vote or two ahead of me Why does it suck? NAF has been more than fair with a penalty vote rather than a modkill. Or does it suck that you are no longer the vote leader? You're surely not trying to take the sanctimonious morale high ground of don't kill the newbie - Mitchy knew (well I hope he knew - I told him to go read some of the past games) what he was getting himself into when he came over from FB to play his first game here rather than there. It was pretty much Sundry's first game here as well. Well.... I think that now would be a good time to claim... I am vanilla town... so no big loss for town if you do mislynch me... and it would save Moody from the mod's wrath... which is good if he is town and has a power... and bad if he is scum. You were no longer the vote leader and still plenty of time left in the Day - yet you claim - and claim vanilla town --there was no need for you to claim, and no advantage to the town. You do recall there was a lengthy and vocal discussion between Idle and Ed in StarWars, and the various arguments on why claiming vanilla reduces the unconfirmed town numbers where the town power roles will be hiding. Jumping back to day 1, there are a couple of posts that ping me in light of your "claim" - namely your discussion with Ed about the Jester role. - #58 Question..... Not so familiar with the jester... is it a win stealing 3rd party?
- #65 So why is lynching the jester such a bad thing?
- #67 But usually day 1 results in a town lynch based on some spurious logic.... wouldn't a 3rd party lynch ultimately be better for town? It narrows the scum hiding pool without lowering our numbers.
You seem to want to get lynched today - kinda suspiciously jester-like, though for the moment I'll leave my vote where it is while I re-evaluate the Day 1 posts.
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Apr 11, 2009 11:31:38 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Apr 11, 2009 11:31:38 GMT -5
shaggy: I don't know how you played in other games. I simply feel that the ones up for the vote haven't been acting all that scummy, and I voted for you for two reasons: a) to get a reaction b) because I meant what I said. I'm not absolutely convinced you are scum, but if I had to be that to vote for anyone, I wouldn't be able to vote for anyone.
Just for the record, I will move my vote to whoever is in the lead beside moody to avoid his lynch. (Not that I'm sure he isn't scum, I just think the six vote disadvantage shouldn't count)
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Apr 11, 2009 12:21:46 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Apr 11, 2009 12:21:46 GMT -5
yeah.... that sucks... I think that puts Moody a vote or two ahead of me Why does it suck? NAF has been more than fair with a penalty vote rather than a modkill. Or does it suck that you are no longer the vote leader? You're surely not trying to take the sanctimonious morale high ground of don't kill the newbie - Mitchy knew (well I hope he knew - I told him to go read some of the past games) what he was getting himself into when he came over from FB to play his first game here rather than there. It was pretty much Sundry's first game here as well. Yes I knew that this was a tough game and know I'm lucky still to be in it. I am not going to claim as I feel I have nothing to gain from it. BillMc is right maybe I should have listened to him more or done a bit more research . I shall be sure to learn from my mistake
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Apr 11, 2009 12:28:24 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Apr 11, 2009 12:28:24 GMT -5
yeah.... that sucks... I think that puts Moody a vote or two ahead of me Why does it suck? NAF has been more than fair with a penalty vote rather than a modkill. Or does it suck that you are no longer the vote leader? You're surely not trying to take the sanctimonious morale high ground of don't kill the newbie - Mitchy knew (well I hope he knew - I told him to go read some of the past games) what he was getting himself into when he came over from FB to play his first game here rather than there. It was pretty much Sundry's first game here as well. Well.... I think that now would be a good time to claim... I am vanilla town... so no big loss for town if you do mislynch me... and it would save Moody from the mod's wrath... which is good if he is town and has a power... and bad if he is scum. You were no longer the vote leader and still plenty of time left in the Day - yet you claim - and claim vanilla town --there was no need for you to claim, and no advantage to the town. You do recall there was a lengthy and vocal discussion between Idle and Ed in StarWars, and the various arguments on why claiming vanilla reduces the unconfirmed town numbers where the town power roles will be hiding. Jumping back to day 1, there are a couple of posts that ping me in light of your "claim" - namely your discussion with Ed about the Jester role. - #58 Question..... Not so familiar with the jester... is it a win stealing 3rd party?
- #65 So why is lynching the jester such a bad thing?
- #67 But usually day 1 results in a town lynch based on some spurious logic.... wouldn't a 3rd party lynch ultimately be better for town? It narrows the scum hiding pool without lowering our numbers.
You seem to want to get lynched today - kinda suspiciously jester-like, though for the moment I'll leave my vote where it is while I re-evaluate the Day 1 posts. Bill to put it simply, I had already had 4 votes... 5 votes? on me when Moody received his penalty votes. So my thought process was that either scum would jump on him for an easy lynch, or that towns not wanting to mislynch would not look for scum and would instead think between Moody and I which they would be more alright with losing. In the Alpha Centauri game on Giraffe Boards, NAF was lynched because of a last second mason claim and the town had to hurry to change votes in order to avoid lynching the mason. Because NAF had penalty votes on him already, a lot of people moved their vote on to him in order to save the mason. Yeah, the situation in this game is a lot different, but it still concerns me that the town is gonna stop looking for scum and just concentrate on me or Moody.... and apparently I was right because we were the only 2 people you bothered to mention at all so far toDay. As far as the timing of my claim. We were approaching the holiday weekend that we are now in the middle of, so I was expecting it to be even slower and less participatory in here than it already had been.... and I was right.... so I wanted to claim so that people can know going into the lynch that I was vanilla and that of all the possible mislynches, mine would probably be the least harmful to town. Yes it is always better to try to lynch scum than to lynch town, but no one seemed to be focusing on finding scum... they all just threw their votes on me and then disappeared. I don't want to be lynched today, but it doesn't seem like there is much of an option against it. My vote is on Total Lost and I gave my reasons. I don't see how me claiming vanilla is going to hurt town. Yes it reduces the unclaimed pool for power roles to hide in, but the same can be said for scum... they have less places to hide also. And it is only fair for me to give town fair warning that the votes against me are a vote for a mislynch. So I don't see how I seem like I want to be lynched, it isn't that I want to.... just that I am willing if that is the sacrifice that the town wants to go with. What should I have done Bill? Claimed a power role? That would have ended with a counter claim from the real role which outs them to scum and then has town thinking I am scum. Should I have just sat there and let you all lynch me without giving you fair warning that I was town... but also letting you know that although it will be a mislynch, it is better than mislynching a potential power role?
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Apr 11, 2009 12:31:44 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Apr 11, 2009 12:31:44 GMT -5
Why does it suck? NAF has been more than fair with a penalty vote rather than a modkill. Or does it suck that you are no longer the vote leader? You're surely not trying to take the sanctimonious morale high ground of don't kill the newbie - Mitchy knew (well I hope he knew - I told him to go read some of the past games) what he was getting himself into when he came over from FB to play his first game here rather than there. It was pretty much Sundry's first game here as well. Yes I knew that this was a tough game and know I'm lucky still to be in it. I am not going to claim as I feel I have nothing to gain from it. BillMc is right maybe I should have listened to him more or done a bit more research . I shall be sure to learn from my mistake Moody... I gotta tell ya, of all the boards I play mafia on, this one is the hardest.
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Apr 11, 2009 12:52:53 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Apr 11, 2009 12:52:53 GMT -5
[/color] The way he voted both yesterDay and toDay seems to be very "safe". A vote on Nanook for "stifle discussion" when he don't have anything else to go by and when he sees a player getting a lot of heat he unvotes Nanook and votes for Ed (Day 1 # 229) or Paul (Day 1 #73 and Day 2 #110). The votes for Paul seem a bit weird when you look at #87 (Day 2) where Pede Scribe "didn't get the case on Paul". A big part of by vote is based on Metagaming. But in the scumthread of Star Wars Pede Scribe did early in the game speculate on color/roles and he also said to his scumbuddies that it was a really great tactic to use as scum. It was a safe way to appear Town and be vocal without saying much. And that's what he seems to be doing in this game as well.[/quote] Color is one of my favorite parts of the game. I love analyzing it to see where it could go. I would have done that no matter what I was. And as for my turn-around on Paul, I didn't think the initial case on him had any weight. Still don't. But his reaction to the pressure on him, his 'lynch me, I'm vanilla but I'm not scum and I don't want you to get mitchy' strikes me as very scummy.
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Apr 11, 2009 16:42:48 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 11, 2009 16:42:48 GMT -5
Yes I knew that this was a tough game and know I'm lucky still to be in it. I am not going to claim as I feel I have nothing to gain from it. BillMc is right maybe I should have listened to him more or done a bit more research . I shall be sure to learn from my mistake I'm sorry - but I'm not sure if I know you from other boards? Do you play under other names?? I couldn't find you on Ed's list on www.totalmafia.dk - but I might be going blind *lol*
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Apr 11, 2009 16:44:34 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 11, 2009 16:44:34 GMT -5
Moody... I gotta tell ya, of all the boards I play mafia on, this one is the hardest. You do I guess it all down to taste and personality (I find the SDMB really hard!!).
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Apr 11, 2009 16:49:02 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 11, 2009 16:49:02 GMT -5
Color is one of my favorite parts of the game. I love analyzing it to see where it could go. I would have done that no matter what I was. And as for my turn-around on Paul, I didn't think the initial case on him had any weight. Still don't. But his reaction to the pressure on him, his 'lynch me, I'm vanilla but I'm not scum and I don't want you to get mitchy' strikes me as very scummy. It wasn't the color alone - I was fine with that on Day 1. It the way you voted. You did vote Paul early Day 1 and the unvoted. On Day 2 you said you didn't get the case on Paul even though you did vote for him Day 1 and I know new things was added but the case was still very much the same. The after his 'nilla-claim you still don't get the case (am I reading you right? ) but the claim seemed fake so now you'll vote for him. Just seems weird to me and I still don't think your way of voting makes sense.
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Apr 11, 2009 18:24:47 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Apr 11, 2009 18:24:47 GMT -5
Yes I knew that this was a tough game and know I'm lucky still to be in it. I am not going to claim as I feel I have nothing to gain from it. BillMc is right maybe I should have listened to him more or done a bit more research . I shall be sure to learn from my mistake I'm sorry - but I'm not sure if I know you from other boards? Do you play under other names?? I couldn't find you on Ed's list on www.totalmafia.dk - but I might be going blind *lol* Nope I've never played a game before... I know BillMc from FB and that kind soul pointed me in the direction of this game I guess if you're going to start somewhere here is as good a place as any ;D
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Apr 11, 2009 18:50:06 GMT -5
Post by special on Apr 11, 2009 18:50:06 GMT -5
[ghost fluff] I can post wikipedia articles about dead people if you'd like [/ghost fluff]
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Apr 11, 2009 19:37:03 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Apr 11, 2009 19:37:03 GMT -5
Moody... I gotta tell ya, of all the boards I play mafia on, this one is the hardest. You do I guess it all down to taste and personality (I find the SDMB really hard!!). I've only ever been in one game on SDMB, and unfortunately... it was game number 6 out of the 6 I was playing at 1 time and I couldn't keep in all of them so I adopted an extreme lurking habit on that board and it got me mod killed. So I can't say that I ever played a game there. Sorry about that Sachertorte I'm not proud of it, at least now I know my limit.
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Apr 11, 2009 21:42:08 GMT -5
Post by Captain Pinkies on Apr 11, 2009 21:42:08 GMT -5
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Apr 12, 2009 9:39:57 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Apr 12, 2009 9:39:57 GMT -5
Official Announcement:
Due to the Easter Holiday this weekend, we're going to extend the Day until Thursday, April 16. I'm editing this into the Dawn Post as well.
Happy Zombie Jesus Day!
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Apr 12, 2009 9:45:44 GMT -5
Post by shaggy on Apr 12, 2009 9:45:44 GMT -5
well after rereading the day 1 and 2 over again. I have to say, there is not alot to go on. But I do find something just a little odd, so that is probably where my vote for now will go. Which dire aka FCOD . Soory just a few things ping me the wrong way and here they are:
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Kinda odd to me to vote for someone cause you think they will not want to play in the game after a few days anyways. But ok. I know my vote on the guy was weak, but it was cause I did not understand at the time, what his peaice of info on his role.
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So kinda almost backs up that your voting for 2 reasons, he claims on day one and then decides not to play after a day or 2.
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Another words you voted ed cause he voted idle for not claiming but you voted for him, cause he usually does not want to play after a day or 2, and then went onto say, he also usually claims. to me this seems like your voting for him, for what you kinda are doing yourself. Is this not what got me into hot water on day one last game? hmmmmmm.
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seems like your kinda pushing ed to claim. Now I know it is good to claim when your ass is on the line, but voting him, for pushing for a claim then you vote and almost push for a claim, that just pings me the wrong way. As I said is this not the same in theory as what got me into hot water last game?
the last quote I will show will be this:
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I hate people complaining about how slow it is, cause I just have a desire to say back, well then why not start some good conversation instead of wasting post space by complaining about it? Since that is the thing...I do not care if there is alot or a little post's from someone, what I do care about is good post's more then fluff post's. And I have to say, I see alot of talk, but little content and more fluff then anything. So I am sorry but I think for me, it is best to place my vote on you. Atleast for now. For more alot of talking but not much to it and also cause it just semed you voted ed for something atleast the way I see it, you yourself did. That pings me the wrong way!
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Apr 13, 2009 9:34:33 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Apr 13, 2009 9:34:33 GMT -5
Wow, this may be the weakest argument against me EVER! well after rereading the day 1 and 2 over again. I have to say, there is not alot to go on. But I do find something just a little odd, so that is probably where my vote for now will go. Which dire aka FCOD . Soory just a few things ping me the wrong way and here they are: 1.36 Kinda odd to me to vote for someone cause you think they will not want to play in the game after a few days anyways. But ok. I know my vote on the guy was weak, but it was cause I did not understand at the time, what his peaice of info on his role. Really? You're going to use a half-joking early Day one vote as a basis for your argument? This was obviously not serious, and early in Day one there are no good reasons to vote for someone anyway. 1.88 So kinda almost backs up that your voting for 2 reasons, he claims on day one and then decides not to play after a day or 2. Just reinforcing the half-joking nature of my vote...hence the "lol". 1.227 Another words you voted ed cause he voted idle for not claiming but you voted for him, cause he usually does not want to play after a day or 2, and then went onto say, he also usually claims. to me this seems like your voting for him, for what you kinda are doing yourself. Is this not what got me into hot water on day one last game? hmmmmmm. I did not vote for Idle because he didn't claim, and I never said that. Don't put words into my mouth to make up an argument against me. I voted for Idle as a joke...the joke being that he'll lose interest and claim because he won't care about playing anymore. What Ed did was vote for Idle because he hadn't claimed yet. That is quite different, with the biggest distinction being that Ed was putting pressure on Idle to claim for no reason. I was not. 1.291 seems like your kinda pushing ed to claim. Now I know it is good to claim when your ass is on the line, but voting him, for pushing for a claim then you vote and almost push for a claim, that just pings me the wrong way. As I said is this not the same in theory as what got me into hot water last game? Since you conveniently left the time stamp off of my quote, let's not forget that I said this 5 MINUTES before the end of the Day. I was disappointed, yes, because generally people will claim when they are about to be lynched, at least to try to save their own ass and at best to give some helpful information if they are a power role. It's not role fishing when the person is 5 minutes away from being lynched. You say that I was pushing for a claim...can you point out where I did so before 5 minutes to the deadline? I did not, and again you're fabricating evidence for your argument. the last quote I will show will be this: 1.93 I hate people complaining about how slow it is, cause I just have a desire to say back, well then why not start some good conversation instead of wasting post space by complaining about it? Since that is the thing...I do not care if there is alot or a little post's from someone, what I do care about is good post's more then fluff post's. And I have to say, I see alot of talk, but little content and more fluff then anything. So I am sorry but I think for me, it is best to place my vote on you. Atleast for now. For more alot of talking but not much to it and also cause it just semed you voted ed for something atleast the way I see it, you yourself did. That pings me the wrong way! Please show me where I complained about how slow the day is. The quote you have there is me commenting on how slow the day is, which is in context with Paul's post (one about mine) saying "Day one is so slow...." I like how you keep leaving the context out of my posts when you quote them, like timestamps and other posts that are relevant. Instead of building a good case against me, you've just twisted my words and made yourself look scummy as hell. --FCOD
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Day Two
Apr 13, 2009 12:39:29 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Apr 13, 2009 12:39:29 GMT -5
My case against Paul. We've done the joke thing to death... my feelings at the time were that a joke like that is the sort of self-deprecating thing a scum player might pull, sort of a "scum would never do that" layer cake. Second, his fluff quotient is huge. I didn't bother counting fluff vs. game posts, because that's always subjective, but I had to wade through a pretty big pile of crap to get the real posts. This next bit is interesting, and I didn't catch it at the time... *snip* In all honesty, I haven't recieved my role PM yet... I think I may have been overlooked with the role name confusion. I sent NAF a PM... at least I think it was NAF. This post was made at 10:29 pm on the first. At 9:25 PM, Kat made a comment about nobody reading their PMs yet, which leads me to believe that all PMs had gone out, and had been out for some time. For the record, I recieved my PM at 2:24 PM. And Paul, you only think it was NAF you sent a PM to? This whole post just reeks of "poor bumbling hapless me". I don't buy it. Not sure if I'll be back before the deadline tomorrow, so I'm going to go ahead and put my vote in now.[bleached]Vote: KidVermicious ... Nehhhh, this is kind of weak, but it's the best I have right now. The whole "gosh darn recruitment, I swear if I get recruited I'm going to drag my heels and do everything in my power to take down whoever recruited me so you better not recruit me, y'hear?" spiel feels like a blustery attempt to look as townie as possible. Kind of reminds me of the guy that buys the banana yellow Hummer and added spinning rims, neon, with the souped-up engine and bass so loud it makes your ears bleed. It's just a big show, like he'll actually drive it anywhere.
I feel like it should be pretty standard that if there's recruitment, there's a mechanism in place that will prevent people from handing over the recruiter(s) to the town on a silver platter. So I kind of think scum would be more likely to put on the big "look how townie I am, I'll take down those flippin' recruiters even if I lose!" show so everybody else will pat them on the head and say "aw, look at that good little townie, saying he'll turn everybody over." Meanwhile, if the scum are the recruiters, they won't actually have to worry about ever handing anybody over, especially since they will already know how the recruiting mechanism works.
*shrugs* Something about KidV's heart touching speech of loyalty didn't ring true to me either. It wasn't til I read this that I figured it out... I don't really see it someone trying to sound town persay... more like someone trying to seem like a person likely to be recruited instead of the person who is recruiting. [bleached]Vote: KidV [/color] Best I got right now... And good enough for me for Day1.[/quote] Here is his counterattack against me... *snip* I may have made a stupid joke that pinged some people, but so what? if it pinged you that hard then I have no problem with you voting me. You're wrong, but you're entitled to that. My apologies that you don't have the same sense of humor that I do. And my vote on you is not OMGUS... nor is it a me too vote running off of Pollux's vote. What you said seemed off to me, and pinged me more than anyone else. Ed is a close second for seeming to continually press Idle to claim. Just because Pollux was thinking the same thing as me and voted before me, doesn't mean I am me-tooing his vote. I'm sure there are others who thought your comment was fishy. They just haven't said anything about it because they are pinged harder by the actions of others. ...and here is where he'd have us believe that it wasn't a "me to" vote. I leave it up to the reader to decide. It's worth noting that he didn't respond the last time I challenged him about this, lets see if he does this time. Actually, he said that if he kills town or temple that he will die the same Night. I took that to mean that at dawn there would be two bodies, his and his target's. It's not important right now, was just one of the first things that popped into my head that I couldn't figure out on my own. Here he demonstrates that he knows exactly how Idle's Regretful Vig mechanic works. I was on hear last night and there was nothing new going on.... I come on at lunch and its chock full of votes for me... and you guys complain about the day being slow? wow... The mason thing was me bringing up a possibility in think out loud mode. The 2 NKers thing was a mistake of me not reconciling the body count before I typed up the post... I realized that Idle had chosen wrong, but I for some reason didn't make that connection to Sundry when I typed up my post. I don't mind if I get voted off.... it will result in a mislynch, but I have no defense for myself. Basically I am being voted for being stupid.... and I can respect that. I will ask this however. If you all settle on lynching me, then can we move on with the rest of the day and find scum? Meaning, I still get lynched toDay, but we use the day to find scum. And here he tries to explain away his slip, and begins the "I don't mind if you lynch me" Eeyore-schtick. I agree Hawkeye... but I would rather lose a vt to a mislynch than a town power role... I would even rather lose a VT to a mislynch than out a town power role.... Plus, my mislynch will give you some evidence to go off of based on who voted for me and who I voted for... Not that who I voted for means anything since I have no real helpful knowledge the rest of you don't. Still... I am the best candidate for lynch regardless of how you look at it. Another "helpless bumbling me" bid for sympathy, among others. I don't think I've ever seen Town do this. Lay down, yes, but the continued "look at me, I'm laying down, I don't mind being lynched, really!" has got to be almost always a scum tactic. I'm pretty sure he's scum.
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Day Two
Apr 13, 2009 13:24:39 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Apr 13, 2009 13:24:39 GMT -5
My case against Paul. This next bit is interesting, and I didn't catch it at the time... *snip* In all honesty, I haven't recieved my role PM yet... I think I may have been overlooked with the role name confusion. I sent NAF a PM... at least I think it was NAF. This post was made at 10:29 pm on the first. At 9:25 PM, Kat made a comment about nobody reading their PMs yet, which leads me to believe that all PMs had gone out, and had been out for some time. For the record, I recieved my PM at 2:24 PM. And Paul, you only think it was NAF you sent a PM to? This whole post just reeks of "poor bumbling hapless me". I don't buy it. Talk about taking things out of context.... Yes I said I thought it was NAF if you look at the time stamp, it was just after Idle's April Fools prank and not everyone had changed their names back yet.
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Day Two
Apr 13, 2009 13:33:47 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Apr 13, 2009 13:33:47 GMT -5
My case against Paul. We've done the joke thing to death... my feelings at the time were that a joke like that is the sort of self-deprecating thing a scum player might pull, sort of a "scum would never do that" layer cake. Second, his fluff quotient is huge. I didn't bother counting fluff vs. game posts, because that's always subjective, but I had to wade through a pretty big pile of crap to get the real posts. This next bit is interesting, and I didn't catch it at the time... *snip* In all honesty, I haven't recieved my role PM yet... I think I may have been overlooked with the role name confusion. I sent NAF a PM... at least I think it was NAF. This post was made at 10:29 pm on the first. At 9:25 PM, Kat made a comment about nobody reading their PMs yet, which leads me to believe that all PMs had gone out, and had been out for some time. For the record, I recieved my PM at 2:24 PM. And Paul, you only think it was NAF you sent a PM to? This whole post just reeks of "poor bumbling hapless me". I don't buy it. Here is his counterattack against me... ...and here is where he'd have us believe that it wasn't a "me to" vote. I leave it up to the reader to decide. It's worth noting that he didn't respond the last time I challenged him about this, lets see if he does this time. Here he demonstrates that he knows exactly how Idle's Regretful Vig mechanic works. And here he tries to explain away his slip, and begins the "I don't mind if you lynch me" Eeyore-schtick. I agree Hawkeye... but I would rather lose a vt to a mislynch than a town power role... I would even rather lose a VT to a mislynch than out a town power role.... Plus, my mislynch will give you some evidence to go off of based on who voted for me and who I voted for... Not that who I voted for means anything since I have no real helpful knowledge the rest of you don't. Still... I am the best candidate for lynch regardless of how you look at it. Another "helpless bumbling me" bid for sympathy, among others. I don't think I've ever seen Town do this. Lay down, yes, but the continued "look at me, I'm laying down, I don't mind being lynched, really!" has got to be almost always a scum tactic. I'm pretty sure he's scum. Okay... to just cover everything else at once. What would you have me do Kid? You said it was a me too vote I said it wasn't... you said it was... you expect me to say it wasn't again? "No it's not. Yes it is" Is not gonna help town find scum. Again you have your vote on me already, no one is saying you shouldn't except for me and I am resigned to my lynch... so why waste time putting a case together against me AFTER you already voted for me? You time would be better spent finding scum so you have a clearer idea who you want to vote going into Day 3. Which Brings me to your last point... You want me to just lay down and accept being lynched... but not talk about it... but people keep bringing it up and asking about it. It's only fair that I tell you ahead of time that I am VT so that you have fair warning ahead of time that spending any more time focusing on me after you have votes in is a waste. MOVE ON. Maybe you disagree with how I chose to play VT... maybe you think that the things I have said hint at me being scum... but I'm not... and it doesn't surprise me one bit that you all think I am scum. I seem to have that problem when I play town. It happened in SSB:M, it happened in Star Wars on FB, and it's happening now...
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Day Two
Apr 13, 2009 15:05:35 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Apr 13, 2009 15:05:35 GMT -5
Vote Count!
MoodyMitchy (6) - Penalty Votes Paul (6) – FCOD, BillMc, bufftabby, KidV, Almost Human, Pede Scribe FCoD (2) - MoodyMitchy, Shaggy TotalLost (1) - Paul Shaggy (1) - Chucara
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Day Two
Apr 13, 2009 15:25:01 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 13, 2009 15:25:01 GMT -5
Vote Count! MoodyMitchy (6) - Penalty Votes Paul (6) – FCOD, BillMc, bufftabby, KidV, Almost Human, Pede Scribe FCoD (2) - MoodyMitchy, Shaggy TotalLost (1) - Paul Pede Scribe (1) - Total Lost Shaggy (1) - Chucara do this mean I got my vote back???
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Day Two
Apr 13, 2009 15:34:49 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Apr 13, 2009 15:34:49 GMT -5
do this mean I got my vote back??? Nope, it just means that I forgot you lost it. No vote for you.
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Day Two
Apr 13, 2009 15:42:46 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 13, 2009 15:42:46 GMT -5
do this mean I got my vote back??? Nope, it just means that I forgot you lost it. No vote for you. I had a feeling - but hey - you can't blame a girl for trying ;D
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 3:51:31 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Apr 14, 2009 3:51:31 GMT -5
Vote Count! MoodyMitchy (6) - Penalty Votes Paul (6) – FCOD, BillMc, bufftabby, KidV, Almost Human, Pede Scribe FCoD (2) - MoodyMitchy, Shaggy TotalLost (1) - Paul Shaggy (1) - Chucara So if the votes stay as they are.... do 2 people get lynched?? If I get lynched due to the penalty votes will my role be revealed after the lynching?? I ask because I still see no reason to claim yet. My votes are penalty votes they cannot change their minds and vote for someone else.... but if my role will not be revealed if I'm lynched this way then I shall claim on the last day. For what it's worth I'm still certain that Paul is telling the truth. So certain in fact that I'm not going to change my vote in order to try and save myself
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