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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 4:39:35 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 14, 2009 4:39:35 GMT -5
The thing with a last-minute claim is that it will allow scum to manipulated the votes in the direction they want to.
With all the different timezones a lot of players might not even get a chance to read your claim and react on it.
If you have a power role you need to think what will be best for Town. I can understand why you think Paul is vanilla (as he claimed) - but if your our protecting role (or investigating or something equally important) you have to think that Town would gain more by a 'nilla-lynch than by a lynch of a power role.
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 10:19:08 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Apr 14, 2009 10:19:08 GMT -5
Vote Count! MoodyMitchy (6) - Penalty Votes Paul (6) – FCOD, BillMc, bufftabby, KidV, Almost Human, Pede Scribe FCoD (2) - MoodyMitchy, Shaggy TotalLost (1) - Paul Shaggy (1) - Chucara So if the votes stay as they are.... do 2 people get lynched?? If I get lynched due to the penalty votes will my role be revealed after the lynching?? I ask because I still see no reason to claim yet. My votes are penalty votes they cannot change their minds and vote for someone else.... but if my role will not be revealed if I'm lynched this way then I shall claim on the last day. For what it's worth I'm still certain that Paul is telling the truth. So certain in fact that I'm not going to change my vote in order to try and save myself You were first to six Mitch, so you would be lynched. As Total Lost has said, last minute claims rarely work - tho not unknown. This game has been pretty quiet so far. So for a last minute claim to have any hope of saving you, you are essentially looking for folk who haven't voted Paul to now vote for him as a result of your claim (since you said you believe him, this would seem unlikely as you yourself are unwilling to vote for him) or that there would be a mass swing to some other candidate as a result of your claim. It's a case of weighing your role/value to the town against Paul's claimed role - vanilla town. So as it stands, you are valuing a vanilla-town as more valuable to the town than yourself -- so are you scum? ;D
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 10:20:32 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Apr 14, 2009 10:20:32 GMT -5
If I get lynched due to the penalty votes will my role be revealed after the lynching?? And yes, your role/alignment would normally be revealed upon death.
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 10:37:59 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Apr 14, 2009 10:37:59 GMT -5
- but if your our protecting role (or investigating or something equally important) you have to think that Town would gain more by a 'nilla-lynch than by a lynch of a power role. I'm trying to decide if this is a slip or not. I think I can parse what you were trying to say, assuming that you are Town, but that's an awfully funny way to phrase it. And if it is a slip, I wonder if it isn't on purpose.
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 10:50:51 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 14, 2009 10:50:51 GMT -5
- but if your our protecting role (or investigating or something equally important) you have to think that Town would gain more by a 'nilla-lynch than by a lynch of a power role. I'm trying to decide if this is a slip or not. I think I can parse what you were trying to say, assuming that you are Town, but that's an awfully funny way to phrase it. And if it is a slip, I wonder if it isn't on purpose. I'm not sure I follow you on this? What alleged slip would that be? And sorry for the weird phrasing - but I know what I meant and don't get (at all) how you're reading this - cause to me it still makes sense.
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 11:04:16 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Apr 14, 2009 11:04:16 GMT -5
I don't see what you think might be a slip either.
--FCOD
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 11:38:07 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Apr 14, 2009 11:38:07 GMT -5
It's nothing. I saw "you have to think that Town would gain more by a 'nilla-lynch than by a lynch of a power role", and I normally would have seen that phrased "Town would lose less", and for some reason I reversed "nilla-lynch" and "lynch of a power role", and thought I'd bagged me a scum. But no. I made it up.
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 12:11:53 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 14, 2009 12:11:53 GMT -5
It's nothing. I saw "you have to think that Town would gain more by a 'nilla-lynch than by a lynch of a power role", and I normally would have seen that phrased "Town would lose less", and for some reason I reversed "nilla-lynch" and "lynch of a power role", and thought I'd bagged me a scum. But no. I made it up. Oh, no - don't feel bad (look I'm doing really well on your karma) and if it'll make you feel better I'll flirt BIG time with you in the Night
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Apr 14, 2009 12:12:58 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Apr 14, 2009 12:12:58 GMT -5
OK here goes.... I'm plain and simple vanilla town. No role just me. I know this makes nothing clearer regarding Paul and his alignment but at least people will know. As BillMc said as I got to 6 first it looks like I'm out. I still reckon there are 5 people that have not voted yet so it could still go any way.
I'll be away most of tomorrow taking my Mum home and hopefully visiting a friend just mentioning it so if I do go quite it is because of this and not due to giving up. Believe me if the votes were not penalty and could be swayed I would be trying my hardest to do it .
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 13:37:56 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Apr 14, 2009 13:37:56 GMT -5
Oh, no - don't feel bad (look I'm doing really well on your karma) and if it'll make you feel better I'll flirt BIG time with you in the Night You know what I want...
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 13:39:04 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Apr 14, 2009 13:39:04 GMT -5
And the other thing I want is somebody else to come in here and play. Right now it's between Paul and Mitch, and I see no reason to lynch Mitch. If somebody wants to provide a third option, now is the time. Easter is over.
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 13:48:14 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Apr 14, 2009 13:48:14 GMT -5
And the other thing I want is somebody else to come in here and play. Right now it's between Paul and Mitch, and I see no reason to lynch Mitch. If somebody wants to provide a third option, now is the time. Easter is over. You and me both but like I say I don't think Paul is lying either so I can't change my vote just to save my own skin...
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 14:01:02 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Apr 14, 2009 14:01:02 GMT -5
Mitch, here's another quick Mafia Trueism... if you know you are Town, the death of another claimed vanilla should be preferable to your death. You can trust Paul all you want, and I dig that, but you KNOW you are Town, you only THINK he is Town.
Step back and think - do you wanna lynch somebody you think MAY be Town, or somebody you KNOW is Town?
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 14:04:59 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Apr 14, 2009 14:04:59 GMT -5
I have been reading and I'm sorry I've been AWOL. Stupid life getting in the way of Mafia addictions...hehehe!
I have read TL's case on Ped and it does make more sense to me to go into that direction than either Paul or Mitchy as, neither one seem all that Scummy to me yet.
Vote: vote Pede
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 14:09:19 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Apr 14, 2009 14:09:19 GMT -5
Oh, no - don't feel bad (look I'm doing really well on your karma) and if it'll make you feel better I'll flirt BIG time with you in the Night You know what I want... And I think you're getting it...
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 14:23:45 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Apr 14, 2009 14:23:45 GMT -5
Mitch, here's another quick Mafia Trueism... if you know you are Town, the death of another claimed vanilla should be preferable to your death. You can trust Paul all you want, and I dig that, but you KNOW you are Town, you only THINK he is Town. Step back and think - do you wanna lynch somebody you think MAY be Town, or somebody you KNOW is Town? I get what you are saying but it's hard when it's between me and him at the moment.... If I thought he was scum I'd be straight on him but I think he just made an error I was very suspicious as to how quick people were to pick up on it. Maybe they are more attuned to the game than I am or maybe they have all discussed who to gang up on for this day. I shall like I say leave it as it is for now but I am slightly veering towards a save my own ass attitude at the moment
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 14:26:17 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Apr 14, 2009 14:26:17 GMT -5
Well... I think TL is scum... but I'm gonna move my vote to Moody for self preservation... I KNOW I'm town... and a vanilla claim seems kinda odd for all the hype he was giving it....
Unvote: TotalLost
Vote: Moody
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 14:29:06 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Apr 14, 2009 14:29:06 GMT -5
Sorry Moody... if you were gonna save your own ass the time to do it was then... like Kid said.. if you know you are town... and only think someone else is town... and one of you is going.... it's better to vote the other person and hope you were wrong.
It's a dog eat dog game.... or in this case... town eat town... unfortunately.
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 14:58:38 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Apr 14, 2009 14:58:38 GMT -5
Well... I think TL is scum... but I'm gonna move my vote to Moody for self preservation... I KNOW I'm town... and a vanilla claim seems kinda odd for all the hype he was giving it.... Unvote: TotalLost [/color] Vote: Moody [/color][/quote] Well I didn't see it as hype just (playing newbie card again) having never played a game before I wasn't sure on the protocol for claiming. No I have no role which is why I didn't feel it all that important to claim straight out but having read further posts the general consensus was that I should claim sooner rather than later due to time differences and such like and to allow people to come to their own conclusions. I had of course considered the change of vote would then push you in the direction of voting against me therefore equaling them up again and me going by nature of getting the 6 penalty votes first. Paul this is the first thing you've done to ping me. Maybe you are just getting the vote in early to make sure I go. But maybe you are scum and really want to survive for that reason. I'm damned if I do damned if I don't (Just like Idle was in day one. I'll sit and ponder for a while.
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 15:34:27 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Apr 14, 2009 15:34:27 GMT -5
Funny how the general consensus was for you to claim early so that people could decide for themselves what they make of you... but when I was the only one on the block and I claimed, I caught flack for it.
And Moody.. sorry if it pinged you, it wasn't a scum move, and I know how it can be seen like that. It was a self preservation thing based on the fact that I don't know for sure that you are town. I know that I am. And if you had voted me first and I had moved my vote to tie it up, I would be lynched because at that point I would have reached 7 first.
Again... sorry but I know that I am town... so if town really wants me dead then so be it... but I have to place a vote the I think is the best way to save the only person I KNOW is town... me.
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Apr 14, 2009 16:38:37 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Apr 14, 2009 16:38:37 GMT -5
Hmm.. I don't think it's a good idea to have the penalty votes decide this one. I don't really think any of paul or moody are scum, but as most people seem to think paul is scum, and no one seems to think moody is, I'll change my vote.
I'd still prefer a third candidate - shaggy or pedescribe would be fine with me as well.
unvote all vote Paul
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Apr 14, 2009 16:40:05 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Apr 14, 2009 16:40:05 GMT -5
Oh, and two hours to go by my count. My vote still won't have changed the lynch - there is little more I can do.
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Apr 14, 2009 16:48:03 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Apr 14, 2009 16:48:03 GMT -5
We usually aren't posting for our health. Oh, and two hours to go by my count. My vote still won't have changed the lynch - there is little more I can do. Emphasis mine Official Announcement: Due to the Easter Holiday this weekend ,[glow=green,4,300] we're going to extend the Day until Thursday, April 16[/glow][/b]. I'm editing this into the Dawn Post as well. Happy Zombie Jesus Day![/quote] Emphasis added here too. Cause you guys don't read.
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 16:57:40 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Apr 14, 2009 16:57:40 GMT -5
Anybody know what time the Day ends?
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Apr 14, 2009 17:20:30 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Apr 14, 2009 17:20:30 GMT -5
Anybody know what time the Day ends?
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 17:40:44 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Apr 14, 2009 17:40:44 GMT -5
Never! This Day will last forever! Mwahahahahahahaha!
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Apr 14, 2009 17:44:00 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 14, 2009 17:44:00 GMT -5
Anybody know what time the Day ends? Half past monkey's ass, quarter to his balls?
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 17:46:53 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Apr 14, 2009 17:46:53 GMT -5
Oh, and two hours to go by my count. My vote still won't have changed the lynch - there is little more I can do. In some ways.... if we are both town as we claim then perhaps I deserve to go as I broke the rules plain and simple. I'm no wiser or clearer on who may or may not be scum but I do know that mine and Paul's errors (if that's what his was) have taken the heat off a lot of people who have just sat back and breathed a sigh of relief that they survive another day ;D
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 17:54:43 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Apr 14, 2009 17:54:43 GMT -5
Screw it... Moody is new... I'll give him a chance and hope I'm not wrong and that he is VT...
Unvote: moody
Vote: pedescribe
I would like a vote count as my simple brain can't seem to figure it out on its own.... Please?
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Day Two
Apr 14, 2009 19:30:41 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Apr 14, 2009 19:30:41 GMT -5
Where's the dusk post? Hasn't the day ended by now? Where the hell are the mods? WHAT'S GOING ON? ?? --FCOD
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