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Day Two
May 12, 2009 11:25:33 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on May 12, 2009 11:25:33 GMT -5
The following people need to post more by the end of the Day: Merestil Haye --FCOD You might wish to be aware that the countdown timer has gone. I spent a lot of time trying to get a handle on what's going on about the groupies. The paranoid in me fears that they are a role that might be "flipped" to the dark side and join the ELE (Henchman Division). Watching the blog last weekend sharpened my unease about assuming that Pleo is Dr. Horrible; there may be several roles that can "flip" depending on events in the game, and the groupies are one such role. Consider how easy it was for them to dump their former hero when it was discovered he had feet of clay, and take up worshipping a bad guy. I don't think we can draw many conclusions yet; if we lynch Pleo he will (hopefully) post his role PM so we can see (a) if he's right about being vulnerable to recruitment, and (b) under what circumstance he's vulnerable to recruitment. The sooner the better, from the point of view of letting the Town get their teeth into it. More later. I may have to go for Third Reading.
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May 12, 2009 11:26:57 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 12, 2009 11:26:57 GMT -5
You might wish to be aware that the countdown timer has gone. Really? I still see it. Anyone else not see it? --FCOD
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May 12, 2009 11:29:57 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on May 12, 2009 11:29:57 GMT -5
NETA : FCoH You put the timer back while I was writing the post above, but now it shows that day ends at 4pm BST which is about 11am Eastern Daylight Time instead of 8pm (BST that is). And you misspelt "Horrible."
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May 12, 2009 11:31:26 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on May 12, 2009 11:31:26 GMT -5
The following people need to post more by the end of the Day: 4 zlw 4 Natlaw 3 MiteyMouse 3 Almost Human 2 MHaye 2 Kat! 0 paulwhoisaghost 0 Boozahol Squid, P.I. --FCOD Sorry Bad Bovine - my weekend was a bust. The second year in a row I forgot my birthday. Unfortunately everyone else remembered so I was forced to be sociable - ugh! Totally unrelated to the game but does anyone remember the cartoon Cow and Chicken? Sorry FCOD but the image of it always pops into my head when you post
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May 12, 2009 11:31:36 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 12, 2009 11:31:36 GMT -5
Hmm.. I think someone may have tampered with it. Oh well it's back now.
--FCOD
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May 12, 2009 12:16:07 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on May 12, 2009 12:16:07 GMT -5
Paul where've you been toDay? I didn't realise you hadn't posted till I saw FCOD's shit list. Thoughts on some of Paul's actions yesterDay. Makes a very early vote for Sis C: Vote: SisC
For voting someone for casting a joke vote when there is so much to talk about. This could be one of those early votes that don't need too much justification and they're a good way for scum to vote a fellow scum and be able to point it out later in the game. Then crap - other people start voting for Sis C - that wasn't part of the plan! Time to find a new person to vote for. So you make a couple of posts about IS here (sorry - haven't figured out tags on this board yet so you're getting the whole thing). Both of them cover the facts. Both of them point out a few minorly scummy things but nothing exceptional:
Might as well make it official.
Vote: paul [/colo]
I haven't yet seen a post from you that allays my suspicions.
And I need to prove myself to you because.....? I explained my vote and it wasn't unfounded. And it was 50% for the reasons I stated and 50% to see how SisC reacted. Pretty telling the way that she did react. Of course that could be because she is still learning how to play. It was/is still early in the day and I have plenty of time to place my vote wherever I like. You voting for me is just play stupid. You say that I have little content in the post where you Big smelly finger of hate!!! me, but I have as much if not more content posts than you do. And you seem to forget that it's frackin Day 1 so of course I'm gonna start the Day off with some fluff. That's just my posting style.
This makes me curious about something though.
What else would you like to discuss though on Day 1 ? (Not Sarcasm actually) Well, it seems to me that our options at the moment are: 1. Lynch Pleonast 2. Random Lynch 3. Lynch a Lurker
Assuming that Town outnumbers Scum, 2 and 3 have good odds of hitting Townies. I'd prefer to leave any town-killing to scum. I don't really want to lynch Pleo at this point but I haven't seen another possibility yet.
Here you say that the three options you see are to lynch Pleo, random lynch, or LTL. This is after you Big smelly finger of hate!!! me. Odd that you didn't bring up the option of lynching the person you found to be most suspicious. And yet now you are voting me and not a lurker or voting randomly.
One last thing that I found odd.
I feel like we've spent quite a bit of time on it and I don't think we can worry anything else one way or the other until he returns. Meanwhile, the clock is ticking toward dusk and we don't have any good leads.
You seem to imply that time is running out. We have until Tuesday. That's a lot of time. Why do you seem so antsy?FOS's are stupid. The only reason to Big smelly finger of hate!!! someone is to say that you would be voting them if you weren't already voting for someone else and want to keep your vote there. Otherwise a Big smelly finger of hate!!! just says I would vote you but I'm not convinced that you are pinging me enough to warrant a vote.... or I'd vote you but I don't have the balls to put myself on the line by making my actions concrete and allowing them to be analyzed by everyone else.
So no... I don't respond to a Big smelly finger of hate!!! usually. Unless I can find some humor in it and make a comment about it in a joking manner. Anyone who has played with me before should be able to confirm that.
Besides that, you have no case against me, so there really isn't anything for me to do to defend myself. Four days later you vote for him and in the process manage to keep your suspicion on Sis C while smudging Pollux in the process. So basically you've covered all the angles. You've managed to smear the three people under the most suspicion and whatever the outcome you should be ok. In the meantime you've removed your vote from Sis C so that's good too if you're scum. And what are your reasons for voting IS? It was odd that he unvoted you and he admitted to lurking. That was it. The rest of your post was saying Sis C's claim was more believable than Pollux's because of the timing? What a horrible couple of days... I haven't had much time for participation sorry... it's been lacking in my other games as well...
lets see....
Well I was prepared to leave my vote on SisC to the end, but IS is really pinging me... his unvote of me seems really odd, and now he doesnt have a vote on record at all.... and he blatantly admitted to lurking. I also really don't like Pollux's claim.... or SisC's either... but I see the timing of SisC's Vanilla claim a lot more strategic and necessary than Pollux's.
Hmmm... tough one... but I think I'm getting pinged the hardest by IS
Unvote: SisC
Vote: Inner Stickler I don't like it. If you'd simply voted IS and given reasons other than unvoting you and lurking then it may have passed me by. Actually if you'd posted at all toDay it may not have occurred to me to look at you. But I find your blanket suspicion, well, suspicious. Come Night One you post this: Well then... FOS Inner Stickler and NAF
I was right to vote for SisC. And now that the results are in, I see your votes on me in a new light. Sounds like you're patting yourself on the back for voting Sis C. But you unvoted her and voted IS. Hmmmm going on the whole IS and ZLW can't both be town and investigator thing.... Why is it that ZLW seems to be confirming IS.... but IS is not doing the same for ZLW? Just seems odd that IS isn't confirming similar info in his PM to that of ZLW's. And this seems to me to be you preparing for an IS lynch toDay. It didn't make much traction though so maybe that's why you're so silent. I'm not as confident about you being scum as I was about Sister C but I do think you've done quite a few scummy things. And as you're very unlikely to be lynched toDay you'll have plenty of time to address them. vote Paul
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May 12, 2009 12:40:53 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on May 12, 2009 12:40:53 GMT -5
Paul where've you been toDay? I didn't realise you hadn't posted till I saw FCOD's shit list. /Oog - I'm not sure where he has been - but I'm pretty sure he had a BIG hang-over right now ;D
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May 12, 2009 12:45:18 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on May 12, 2009 12:45:18 GMT -5
I posted comments on everyone back on Day One. Has anyone besides sach posted anything similar? As I stated there, I still think Pollux needs to be lynched. I don't understand this logic. How could a scum cause the conversation to die down? Isn't the lack of conversation a group effect? I meant that it's been scum that's reignited the conversation about me. If you you want me to be specific, I'd say storyteller and Ro0sh have been trying the most to keep conversation focused only on me. No one is stopping you from looking at other players. Someone else who doesn't want to take any responsibility in finding scum themselves. This is getting to be a pattern. And look, yet another player who doesn't want to look at anyone but Pleonast. Disagreement on strategy does not make anti-Town. How would you play a role vulnerable to recruitment? And if it were also a Miller and not Night-killable? Then at this point he needs to start explaining and talking rather than just saying he's going to clam up w/ his claims and the what not. I've explained already. Go back and read what I wrote. There's nothing to be gained by repeating it. You are just SO not Town! Did you miss the point about list of every players might not be the best thing to do? And still you think that your list is more pro-Town then what other players have done? You rub me the wrong way - and I really hope you're scum. I havn't been this pissed dis-pleased with an other player for a long time.
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May 12, 2009 13:38:33 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 12, 2009 13:38:33 GMT -5
Sorry all... I havent been around much on any of the boards. This one being the least. Been a bit busy with real life. Had to blow off some steam this past 4 or 5 days and reduce my stress level.
As it is, I really need to reread the whole of the Day, and I won't get a good chance to do that until tonight. But right now I'm leaning toward a Pleo lynch. The WIFOM will just end up hurting us in the end. Best to take care of it now.
As for AH's accusations, I'll address them after I reread. Again... sorry I haven't been around much. It has nothing to do with this game, it's common to all games I am in or modding.
FCOD.... how many posts do I need to avoid being modkilled? I'll just break up the post I was gonna do after reading the Day into multiple posts to cover it.
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Day Two
May 12, 2009 13:39:15 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 12, 2009 13:39:15 GMT -5
If I can tell you're making an effort to contribute I will waive the 5 post requirement.
--FCOD
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May 12, 2009 14:19:34 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on May 12, 2009 14:19:34 GMT -5
I meant that it's been scum that's reignited the conversation about me. If you you want me to be specific, I'd say storyteller and Ro0sh have been trying the most to keep conversation focused only on me. No one is stopping you from looking at other players. Someone else who doesn't want to take any responsibility in finding scum themselves. This is getting to be a pattern. ----- And look, yet another player who doesn't want to look at anyone but Pleonast. ---- I've explained already. Go back and read what I wrote. There's nothing to be gained by repeating it. When you resort to pretty much having to say things like "scum are the ones doing this me" and then not bothering to TRY to even clear your name and just to stick with your "there is nothing to be gained by repeating it" then you don't think trying to convince me in some way that you're town is beneficial. I feel very comfortable with my vote right now. And since when is it that we start putting the horses before the carts? I think you're the scummiest player- and so that's where my vote goes, I'm going to wait then for more data before I try to find the next scum. Your death will provide me the information to continue onwards. No one can just sit there and try to say X,Y, Z are all scum from just the Day 1 posts alone (though I'd like to hear more of Storyteller's Day 1 analysis, last I read he had deiced to vote for IS from it). -Did you do more of the analysis or just go to voting for Pleo, so if you could finish that up, it'd be nice, no?
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May 12, 2009 14:22:42 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on May 12, 2009 14:22:42 GMT -5
Oi, I'm on the 'shit list' I get a real WiFoM of a scum special ed wouldn't-do-that feeling from his take-me-by-the-hand comment. I'll look at a random wiki page for guidance . Pleonast's latest response when asked what his thought are besides his own situation: look at all the people who are talking about me and not mentioning anything else either. He mentioned his earlier review of Day One, but it lists several 'no vibe yet' and a town vibe from Sister Coyote. He restated his suspicion of Pollux and that sachertorte/ RoOsh play-town-but-that-doesn't-mean-they-are feeling Today, IIRC. He could have posted an update of the others, but instead kept the attention on himself. I'll keep my vote on him (though we got two extra days). I haven't rechecked but I didn't see a post with Pleonasts thoughts of the scum lynch, which on of the other things of Day One besides his claim. I was looking tonight at KidVermicious for his short vote for Inner Stickler: How very non-specific of you. Well, it's true. I have been lurking more than I like. I haven't yet found a board style I like and I can't figure out how to change the number of posts per page. Once I've figured those out then I'll be a much happier camper. Happy Inner Stickler posts much more than Pissy Inner Stickler. When you come back with actual criticisms and not gut feelings, I'll be happy to discuss that with you. [/size][/quote]This can't fly. Vote: Inner Stickler.[/quote] Most KidV's posts seems very terse to me this game and I don't get a real feel from them about his alignment. His reason to vote is valid here (though not spelled out) and I assume he simply wasn't online to move his vote later after IS claimed. I think Almost Human's case against paul is more interesting, so I'll going to look at that.
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May 12, 2009 14:29:41 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on May 12, 2009 14:29:41 GMT -5
You are just SO not Town! Did you miss the point about list of every players might not be the best thing to do? And still you think that your list is more pro-Town then what other players have done? You rub me the wrong way - and I really hope you're scum. I havn't been this pissed dis-pleased with an other player for a long time. I didn't miss it--I completely disagree with it. The goal of the Town is to build a consensus on who to lynch. Hiding our thoughts about each other does not help that. When you resort to pretty much having to say things like "scum are the ones doing this me" and then not bothering to TRY to even clear your name and just to stick with your "there is nothing to be gained by repeating it" then you don't think trying to convince me in some way that you're town is beneficial. I feel very comfortable with my vote right now. And since when is it that we start putting the horses before the carts? I think you're the scummiest player- and so that's where my vote goes, I'm going to wait then for more data before I try to find the next scum. Your death will provide me the information to continue onwards. No one can just sit there and try to say X,Y, Z are all scum from just the Day 1 posts alone (though I'd like to hear more of Storyteller's Day 1 analysis, last I read he had deiced to vote for IS from it). -Did you do more of the analysis or just go to voting for Pleo, so if you could finish that up, it'd be nice, no? Are you intentionally misinterpreting what I've said? I've not accused the scum of doing anything to me. I've accused the scum (specifically, Ro0sh) of intentionally keeping the focus on me instead letting the conversation wander to other topics. Unlike Almost who has now posted a critique of another player. Why can't anyone else do that? Why do you even think I'm trying to clear my name? Have you completely missed everything I've been talking about?
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May 12, 2009 19:35:32 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 12, 2009 19:35:32 GMT -5
Attention!
MiteyMouse has requested a sub, so BillMc will be taking her place.
--FCOD
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May 12, 2009 19:37:00 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 12, 2009 19:37:00 GMT -5
Vote count:
Pleonast (6) - KidV, Roosh, Natlaw, Inner Stickler, NAF1138, Special Ed BillMc (2) - sinjin, Total Lost Paul (1) - Almost Human
--FCOD
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May 12, 2009 20:29:07 GMT -5
Post by special on May 12, 2009 20:29:07 GMT -5
I've been hoping for some great insight from some of the players who I hold in great respect and awe. The players who always seem to seem to know what to do. But, understandably due to the circumstances, we're not getting that. I vote this the lamest statement ever in a game of mafia.I don't love you anymore
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May 12, 2009 20:47:05 GMT -5
Post by special on May 12, 2009 20:47:05 GMT -5
I get a real WiFoM of a scum special ed wouldn't-do-that feeling from his take-me-by-the-hand comment. I'll look at a random wiki page for guidance . You know all of this started when someone pointed out that I was posting much less here than on other boards. That was true, but on the other boards, people do stupid things, and I yell at them. Here, People don't do things as stupidly, and if they do do something stupid, other people pick up on it long before I do. The level of play here is higher. On other sites, I feel that overwhelming teacher desire to share my knowledge. Also, here, I rely more on other people for their insight than on some other places. There are more people contributing actual ideas for playing the actual game at hand. So I will be a more passive player. It may look scummy, and I guess I did say it in a suck-uppy way. But, yeah, that's it for now. [oog] I spent several hours cleaning out gutters on a house I'm trying to buy. And I'm an old man, and I'm sore now. And today, we left for a field trip to a Museum in Chicago. up at 4:00 AM. Stuck with a group of 6 77th graders. 2 with autism, 2 native Spanish speakers, and 2 native French speakers (1 of whom had a fear of just about everything.) Then, a flat tire as we got ready to leave. It took an hour for the service truck to get there, then the mechanic smashed his finger getting the spare tire out from behind the front bumper. So that put us on the road way late and in rush hour. And yeah, I've got a headache, and why am I complaining? I dunno, but I'll shut up now. I feel better for having typed it though.
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May 13, 2009 0:08:03 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 13, 2009 0:08:03 GMT -5
Ok... so it's gonna be tough for me to convince FCOD that I am making an effort to participate since pretty much nothing has been discussed in my absence except Pleo.... and that's the same crap that was being discussed Day 1.
I say he needs to claim... and since he refuses and seems to only be willing when we have a countdown.... well... this sounds a hell of a lot like something a jester would say. If you think about it, his play is perfect for a Jester.... no matter what we need to lynch him... so if he is a Jester.... my hat goes of to him.
Vote: Pleo
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May 13, 2009 0:20:01 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on May 13, 2009 0:20:01 GMT -5
If you think about it, his play is perfect for a Jester.... no matter what we need to lynch him... so if he is a Jester.... my hat goes of to him. Bah, any idiot can get himself lynched. A Jester victory gets no love from me unless it was a complicated and specially created role (like get the entire town to vote for you, or Die on Day 5 or You must admit you are a Jester on Day 1, and then try to get lynched- something like that might take skill. But just to be a jester? There is no joy in such a hollow victory). The skill lies in making ridiculously outlandish claims, blatantly lying to the town, and then NOT getting lynched.
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May 13, 2009 0:22:16 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 13, 2009 0:22:16 GMT -5
Paul where've you been toDay? I didn't realise you hadn't posted till I saw FCOD's shit list. Thoughts on some of Paul's actions yesterDay. Makes a very early vote for Sis C: Vote: SisC [/color
For voting someone for casting a joke vote when there is so much to talk about. This could be one of those early votes that don't need too much justification and they're a good way for scum to vote a fellow scum and be able to point it out later in the game. Or it could be that her vote really did ping me. She was obviously misrepresenting the situation on purpose to justify placing her vote on Pollux. So I voted her. Then crap - other people start voting for Sis C - that wasn't part of the plan! Time to find a new person to vote for. So you make a couple of posts about IS here (sorry - haven't figured out tags on this board yet so you're getting the whole thing). Both of them cover the facts. Both of them point out a few minorly scummy things but nothing exceptional: So having my vote on someone and looking into who else might be scum is scummy now? Funny... I thought that being sure one person was scum is a reason to look elsewhere and find out who you are next most suspicious of. That's exactly what I did. Four days later you vote for him and in the process manage to keep your suspicion on Sis C while smudging Pollux in the process. So basically you've covered all the angles. You've managed to smear the three people under the most suspicion and whatever the outcome you should be ok. In the meantime you've removed your vote from Sis C so that's good too if you're scum. And what are your reasons for voting IS? It was odd that he unvoted you and he admitted to lurking. That was it. Again. I found both of the highly suspicious. IS admitting to lurking on purpose and his unvoting me pushed him to the top of my list, and I voted accordingly. It had nothing to do with who else was voting for SisC. The rest of your post was saying Sis C's claim was more believable than Pollux's because of the timing? I don't like it. If you'd simply voted IS and given reasons other than unvoting you and lurking then it may have passed me by. Actually if you'd posted at all toDay it may not have occurred to me to look at you. But I find your blanket suspicion, well, suspicious. Come Night One you post this: The code here is broken... but I was saying that I was glad that I was right about SisC being scum... it means that my scumdar isn't entirely broken after all as I was beginning to think it was. I haven't been able to pick out scum very well in the past few games I have been in. And yes... I did unvote her to vote IS, but that was because I thought him more suspicious of the two... not because I no longer found her suspicious. Sounds like you're patting yourself on the back for voting Sis C. But you unvoted her and voted IS. Hmmmm going on the whole IS and ZLW can't both be town and investigator thing.... Why is it that ZLW seems to be confirming IS.... but IS is not doing the same for ZLW? Just seems odd that IS isn't confirming similar info in his PM to that of ZLW's. And this seems to me to be you preparing for an IS lynch toDay. It didn't make much traction though so maybe that's why you're so silent. I'm not as confident about you being scum as I was about Sister C but I do think you've done quite a few scummy things. And as you're very unlikely to be lynched toDay you'll have plenty of time to address them. vote Paul[/colo
Preparing an IS lynch for toDay? A lynch of a semi confirmed self claimed investigator? That's ridiculous. I was wondering how it was that ZLW could confirm IS, but IS wasn't confirming ZLW. If anything I was suspicious of ZLW. But that is a non issue now. Unless both are scum then they are who they say they are.
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May 13, 2009 0:25:29 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 13, 2009 0:25:29 GMT -5
If you think about it, his play is perfect for a Jester.... no matter what we need to lynch him... so if he is a Jester.... my hat goes of to him. Bah, any idiot can get himself lynched. A Jester victory gets no love from me unless it was a complicated and specially created role (like get the entire town to vote for you, or Die on Day 5 or You must admit you are a Jester on Day 1, and then try to get lynched- something like that might take skill. But just to be a jester? There is no joy in such a hollow victory). The skill lies in making ridiculously outlandish claims, blatantly lying to the town, and then NOT getting lynched. Well... we don't know what sort of conditions are in his PM. So it could be specially tailored to make the situation more difficult. God knows that he has made a big enough mess of the situation.
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May 13, 2009 7:05:55 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on May 13, 2009 7:05:55 GMT -5
Attention!MiteyMouse has requested a sub, so BillMc will be taking her place. --FCOD Unvote BillMC and welcome to the game. Always a pleasure to see you
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May 13, 2009 7:34:44 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on May 13, 2009 7:34:44 GMT -5
Unvote BillMC and welcome to the game. Always a pleasure to see you And thank you for that unvote welcome. Will catch up this evening - RL beckons just now.
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Day Two
May 13, 2009 7:40:07 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 13, 2009 7:40:07 GMT -5
Vote count:
Pleonast (7) - KidV, Roosh, Natlaw, Inner Stickler, NAF1138, Special Ed, Paul BillMc (1) - sinjin Paul (1) - Almost Human
--FCOD
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May 13, 2009 9:07:57 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 13, 2009 9:07:57 GMT -5
Am I still in danger of modkill?
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May 13, 2009 9:08:41 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 13, 2009 9:08:41 GMT -5
No...the rule is there to ensure participation. You are (participating).
--FCOD
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May 13, 2009 13:00:09 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on May 13, 2009 13:00:09 GMT -5
The following people need to post more by the end of the Day: Merestil Haye --FCOD You might wish to be aware that the countdown timer has gone. I spent a lot of time trying to get a handle on what's going on about the groupies. The paranoid in me fears that they are a role that might be "flipped" to the dark side and join the ELE (Henchman Division). Watching the blog last weekend sharpened my unease about assuming that Pleo is Dr. Horrible; there may be several roles that can "flip" depending on events in the game, and the groupies are one such role. Consider how easy it was for them to dump their former hero when it was discovered he had feet of clay, and take up worshipping a bad guy. I don't think we can draw many conclusions yet; if we lynch Pleo he will (hopefully) post his role PM so we can see (a) if he's right about being vulnerable to recruitment, and (b) under what circumstance he's vulnerable to recruitment. The sooner the better, from the point of view of letting the Town get their teeth into it. More later. I may have to go for Third Reading. All I can say is there's nothing to indicate we can flip. Nothing that says we can't either but I suspect that's the same for most of us. Normally that wouldn't be much of an argument. The reason I'm mentioning it is because Pleo seems to think his pm does indicate he can flip/be recruited. So I'm hoping he still posts his pm before the Day ends just so we can possibly lay that to rest.
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Day Two
May 13, 2009 14:12:37 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on May 13, 2009 14:12:37 GMT -5
All I can say is there's nothing to indicate we can flip. Nothing that says we can't either but I suspect that's the same for most of us. Normally that wouldn't be much of an argument. The reason I'm mentioning it is because Pleo seems to think his pm does indicate he can flip/be recruited. So I'm hoping he still posts his pm before the Day ends just so we can possibly lay that to rest. Thanks for answering the question I didn't want to ask; whether you thought that you could be "flipped" or not. I can understand why Pleo would act as he has if he were Town, even if I might have done something differently. I've actually seen someone play to get recruited in one game. (The attempt failed - and the Cult would have been miffed if they'd known, as I was blocked from investigating the Prophet...) I don't want to place my vote on Pleo right now, because he's already on 7. Another vote would put us uncomfortably close to starting the countdown, and not everyone has reached the 5-post count yet. So I'll reconsider in 4 hours or so.
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Day Two
May 13, 2009 14:44:51 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on May 13, 2009 14:44:51 GMT -5
So having my vote on someone and looking into who else might be scum is scummy now? Funny... I thought that being sure one person was scum is a reason to look elsewhere and find out who you are next most suspicious of. That's exactly what I did. After looking at it, I think it more that the timing of your voting was scummy. -you get a F.o.S. and vote from Inner Stickler and respond to that -at the end of the Day Pollux claims, Sister Coyote comes out on top -and then you unvote her and vote IS making him next-up for lynch So your vote change made a bigger difference then the rest who jumped on IS for his 'Hi. I'm lurking' post*. If scum, you could have placed your vote on him earlier and got it of Sister Coyote. But didn't because it would have seemed an OMGUS vote, which is not that highly regarded. *) Not meant dragging it up to accuse IS, but to point out that it was not really (pro-)scum behavior, but anti-town (especially with hindsight of the power role claim). Thus KidVermicious' 'that [anti-town behavior] can't fly' vote for it makes more sense than seeing it as scummy. Also how does IS unvoting you make him scummy?
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Day Two
May 13, 2009 14:50:21 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on May 13, 2009 14:50:21 GMT -5
Are you intentionally misinterpreting what I've said? I've not accused the scum of doing anything to me. I've accused the scum (specifically, Ro0sh) of intentionally keeping the focus on me instead letting the conversation wander to other topics. BTW, you earlier advised voting for who you think is scummy besides you and vote in purple whether to lynch you and switch at the end. So I'm assuming you're voting Ro0sh, but will switch to yourself later (if needed)? Not that there is a much later, because even with the extension we still only have half the votes in like Yesterday .
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