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Day Six
May 13, 2009 7:29:37 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on May 13, 2009 7:29:37 GMT -5
Well that's an interesting twist.
Heck, this is far to much wifom for my liking. I'm still inclined to believe nanook.
Vote: fcod
I thought FCOD couldn't vote today - but you have him voting nanook
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 7:39:16 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 13, 2009 7:39:16 GMT -5
I also thought my vote didn't count.
Why are you more inclined to believe Nanook, Bill? Don't you find it extremely odd that he pushed bufftabby into a claim before revealing his result? To me that is just SO scummy I can't take it.
--FCOD
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 9:01:44 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 13, 2009 9:01:44 GMT -5
wow.... talk about lack of participation... only 6 votes on record with less than 12 hours to go and 1 of them doesn't even count?
MODS, can we get an up to date player list posted with the Dusk thread please?
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 9:07:13 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 13, 2009 9:07:13 GMT -5
Nevermind.... I'm a jackass.... this game is a lot smaller right now than I had thought.
Nothing to see here folks.... just a guy who managed to shove both feet into his mouth. Really people.... move on...
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 9:10:09 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 13, 2009 9:10:09 GMT -5
Is there some significance to the Nights being numbered in digits and the days numbered in words? i.e. Day Four vs. Night 4
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 9:27:50 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on May 13, 2009 9:27:50 GMT -5
I also thought my vote didn't count. Why are you more inclined to believe Nanook, Bill? Don't you find it extremely odd that he pushed bufftabby into a claim before revealing his result? To me that is just SO scummy I can't take it. --FCOD It is a bit odd but he was right about MHaye and presumably he's right about Paul so I'm leaning far more town with Nanook than anything else. It's possible he was bussing a fellow scum but it doesn't seem terribly likely. With 4 votes against you now there doesn't seem much point in moving my vote - anyway, I really don't think we should be leaving known temple members alive. Nanook says he thinks they're pro town but he doesn't know that, else why would he have asked BT to come clean first? Out of the pair of you (FCOD and buff) I find her scummier and we all know her allignment is uncertain whereas I've no idea about yours. Personally I'd rather go for the known uncertainty than the unknown.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 9:32:29 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 13, 2009 9:32:29 GMT -5
It is a bit odd but he was right about MHaye and presumably he's right about Paul so I'm leaning far more town with Nanook than anything else. It's possible he was bussing a fellow scum but it doesn't seem terribly likely. It's more than a bit odd...and you don't find it more odd that he didn't reveal anything about bufftabby until she already said it? I'd rather lynch Nanook obviously but if it's between me and bufftabby I'll choose bufftabby. --FCOD
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 11:33:46 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on May 13, 2009 11:33:46 GMT -5
Why are you more inclined to believe Nanook, Bill? Don't you find it extremely odd that he pushed bufftabby into a claim before revealing his result? To me that is just SO scummy I can't take it. --FCOD He was right about MHaye, and at that point there was no real reason for the scum to bus one of their own - ok, it could be a good plan to gain a lot of town cred for a scummy nanook. However, thinking about this a bit more, we do have a bit quandry. If we believe Cap's claim, then he mentions the temple can be recruited, so if FCOD or Nanook correctly and we lynch them, the Alien's can recruit Bufftabby, and the Aliens keep the same headcount. If we mislynch FCOD or Nanook then the Aliens can recruit Bufftabby and will be one up - and that may be enough to swing an Alien win. crap crap crap - we can't let the aliens grow their numbers Sorry buff Unvote: FCOD Vote: bufftabby
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 11:38:26 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on May 13, 2009 11:38:26 GMT -5
That makes zero sense, bill. If I'm dead, THEY'LL JUST RECRUIT SOMEONE ELSE. Why don't we kill YOU so YOU don't get recruited?
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 12:54:19 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on May 13, 2009 12:54:19 GMT -5
That makes zero sense, bill. If I'm dead, THEY'LL JUST RECRUIT SOMEONE ELSE. Why don't we kill YOU so YOU don't get recruited? Well unless you're claiming Bill's also temple I'd far rather it was you. You've claimed to be alligned with town but we don't know that and as neither Cap's nor Sundry's death posts gave any indication of allignment I can't help doubting it. You say your pm was exactly the same as Cap's and that he must have lied about his pm and copied yours from the temple thread. But there's no reason to believe you're telling the truth. I don't understand why Nanook believes you. Even though I think he's probably town I really don't understand that. Maybe FCOD is an alien. I don't know. But what I do know is that you're proven and self admitted not town. Your claim to be on the town side is just that, a claim.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 13:08:15 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on May 13, 2009 13:08:15 GMT -5
Well, sure, AH, I fully understand your reason for voting me. That's why I didn't argue with it. bill's just doesn't make sense.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 13:29:23 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on May 13, 2009 13:29:23 GMT -5
That makes zero sense, bill. If I'm dead, THEY'LL JUST RECRUIT SOMEONE ELSE. Why don't we kill YOU so YOU don't get recruited? Because I am not Temple. Cap's post stated Temple can be recruited. Or are you implying you have knowledge that the Alien's can recruit anyone?
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 13:34:53 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on May 13, 2009 13:34:53 GMT -5
I have no reason to think they can only recruit Temple. Why, what extra knowledge do you have about recruiting?
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 13:55:01 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on May 13, 2009 13:55:01 GMT -5
If you remember, KidV(vanilla Town) stated that he would out anyone that recruited him. Idle on the other hand stated that he could NOT be recruited. These two facts together would indicate that anyone could be recruited unless their role specifically states otherwise.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 15:47:56 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 13, 2009 15:47:56 GMT -5
Can we get a vote count up in this bitch?
--FCOD
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 15:48:59 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on May 13, 2009 15:48:59 GMT -5
If you remember, KidV(vanilla Town) stated that he would out anyone that recruited him. Idle on the other hand stated that he could NOT be recruited. These two facts together would indicate that anyone could be recruited unless their role specifically states otherwise. I wouldn't call these facts. The stated vanilla PM makes no mention of recruitment - so that's just KidV's position on the subject. Not being able to recruit a 3rd party makes sense. Now Cap's PM explicitly says Temple can be recruited. Allowing the Aliens to generally recruit and NK would make them very powerful So I would guess the Aliens have the choice of a NK or try to recruit. If they had been killing and recruiting the mass populace the game would be over by now. Ok, its supposition that recruitment is just Temple - but we know for a fact that Temple can be recruited - we don't know whether Town can.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 15:52:38 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 13, 2009 15:52:38 GMT -5
Fuck it, I'll do it myself:
FCOD (3) - Bufftabby, Nanook, shaggy Bufftabby (2) - Almost Human, BillMc Nanook (1) - Paul
I'd vote for bufftabby, but I remembered I can't vote today. Shit happens.
--FCOD
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 16:10:13 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on May 13, 2009 16:10:13 GMT -5
If you remember, KidV(vanilla Town) stated that he would out anyone that recruited him. Idle on the other hand stated that he could NOT be recruited. These two facts together would indicate that anyone could be recruited unless their role specifically states otherwise. I wouldn't call these facts. The stated vanilla PM makes no mention of recruitment - so that's just KidV's position on the subject. Not being able to recruit a 3rd party makes sense. Now Cap's PM explicitly says Temple can be recruited. Allowing the Aliens to generally recruit and NK would make them very powerful So I would guess the Aliens have the choice of a NK or try to recruit. If they had been killing and recruiting the mass populace the game would be over by now. Ok, its supposition that recruitment is just Temple - but we know for a fact that Temple can be recruited - we don't know whether Town can. So, since your PM makes no mention of recruitment, you assume Temple is the only group that can be recruited? I hope you're wearing your moonshoes for that giant leap in logic.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 16:32:41 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 13, 2009 16:32:41 GMT -5
Why are people voting for someone other than who they think is scummiest? Based on their possible misinterpretation of the recruitment mechanic? That's ridiculous....
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 16:35:10 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on May 13, 2009 16:35:10 GMT -5
Why are people voting for someone other than who they think is scummiest? Based on their possible misinterpretation of the recruitment mechanic? That's ridiculous.... By some people who exactly do you mean because I am voting for who I think is the scummiest.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 16:47:30 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on May 13, 2009 16:47:30 GMT -5
Fuck it, I'll do it myself: FCOD (3) - Bufftabby, Nanook, shaggy Bufftabby (2) - Almost Human, BillMc Nanook (1) - Paul I'd vote for bufftabby, but I remembered I can't vote today. Shit happens. --FCOD Official type vote count coming soon. Within the next hour or two, promise.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 17:07:53 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on May 13, 2009 17:07:53 GMT -5
Looks a lot like FCoD's, in fact I am going to copy and paste his to make my life easier.
FCOD (3) - Bufftabby, Nanook, shaggy Bufftabby (2) - Almost Human, BillMc Nanook (1) - Paul
*FCoD can not vote toDay.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 17:29:30 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on May 13, 2009 17:29:30 GMT -5
Is there some significance to the Nights being numbered in digits and the days numbered in words? i.e. Day Four vs. Night 4 No. That's just something that amuses Kat.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 17:42:20 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 13, 2009 17:42:20 GMT -5
Why are people voting for someone other than who they think is scummiest? Based on their possible misinterpretation of the recruitment mechanic? That's ridiculous.... By some people who exactly do you mean because I am voting for who I think is the scummiest. I guess I mean Bill... sorry I grouped you in there AH.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 17:42:48 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 13, 2009 17:42:48 GMT -5
Is there some significance to the Nights being numbered in digits and the days numbered in words? i.e. Day Four vs. Night 4 No. That's just something that amuses Kat. So it's not canon related at all?
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 18:30:35 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on May 13, 2009 18:30:35 GMT -5
So, since your PM makes no mention of recruitment, you assume Temple is the only group that can be recruited? I hope you're wearing your moonshoes for that giant leap in logic. Giant steps are what you take walking on the moonWe had 8 alive at the start of the day, Pede topped himself, so 7 still alive. From a 20 start, there are possibly 3-4 scum - and we got 1. Mislynch: If there are 3 scum still alive, then they win the game at dawn with a successful NK If there are 2 scum still alive, and they can recruit tonight, we'll be at 3-3 Correct Lynch: If there were 3 scum, then it will be 3-2 town tomorrow if there were 2 scum, and they recruit it will be 4-2 town Hmm, I seem to have talked myself out of the imminent danger of recruitment. Mislynch today is more the issue. It was Shaggy's analysis the swung me to vote MHaye and put my trust in Nanook Unvote: bufftabby Vote: fcod
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 18:37:55 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on May 13, 2009 18:37:55 GMT -5
By some people who exactly do you mean because I am voting for who I think is the scummiest. I guess I mean Bill... sorry I grouped you in there AH. No worries Paul. While I doubt temple are the only players that can be recruited (if they even can be recruited - remember we've only got buff and Cap's word for that), I'm not arguing with Bill because I think he's making the right vote even if I'm uncertain about his reasoning. Consider this - and this is only supposition of course. We have town, temple and aliens. From the colour we can assume the aliens are the ones recruiting. So are they the ones killing or is that being done by another party? We've been told by our mods that colour is relevant in this game. In the opening post of Night 4, after Cap is killed, he's said to say: Night 3 there's this quote from the mods: I don't know if it's relevant but in that post the person who killed hawk was Captain Pinkies. Even if it isn't the evidence of weapons etc doesn't sound much to me like recruiting. So.... what if temple are the ones doing the killing and their claim to be on the town side is just bullshit? I realise there's no way to know until the game's over but we're never going to be able to trust them with any confidence so surely it's best to deal with the problem now. *Am currently contemplating whether to stay up to await the end of the Day or go to bed as it's gone midnight over here*
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 18:40:44 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on May 13, 2009 18:40:44 GMT -5
Bah - now I've posted I see Bill's changed his vote so I'm probably wasting my breath.
I'm not sure where you're pulling those numbers from Bill but I hope you're right.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 19:00:32 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on May 13, 2009 19:00:32 GMT -5
I'm not sure where you're pulling those numbers from Bill but I hope you're right. So do I...let me try and explain my numbers, and they may be wrong 7 still alive If we assume 3 scum are still alive, then its currently 4-3 to town - Mislynch and a NK make it 2-3 to scum, game over. - Correct Lynch and a NK make it 3-2 to town - Correct Lynch and recruit make it 3-3 If we assume 2 scum still alive, then its currently 5-2 to town - Mislynch & NK make it 3-2 to town - Mislynch & recruit make it 3-3 - Correct Lynch & NK make it 4-1 town - Correct Lynch & recruit then is 3-2 town So while a recruit will even up the game for scum, a mislynch today could lose it for us.
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Day Six
May 13, 2009 19:13:41 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on May 13, 2009 19:13:41 GMT -5
I'm not sure where you're pulling those numbers from Bill but I hope you're right. So do I...let me try and explain my numbers, and they may be wrong 7 still alive If we assume 3 scum are still alive, then its currently 4-3 to town - Mislynch and a NK make it 2-3 to scum, game over. - Correct Lynch and a NK make it 3-2 to town - Correct Lynch and recruit make it 3-3 If we assume 2 scum still alive, then its currently 5-2 to town - Mislynch & NK make it 3-2 to town - Mislynch & recruit make it 3-3 - Correct Lynch & NK make it 4-1 town - Correct Lynch & recruit then is 3-2 town So while a recruit will even up the game for scum, a mislynch today could lose it for us. I sort of get where you're coming from but you're basing your numbers on the assumption that only the aliens are technically scum. I'm not nearly as sure of that. In fact, my earlier post shows what I think is possible. How certain are you that buff's on the town side? And how certain are you that FCOD's an alien? If he is then great, I take my hat off to you, but all I've seen to indicate he is, is a slight lack of participation and a belief that Nanook's scum. And he isn't the only one who seems to think that, so should we go after Paul next if you turn out to be right?
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