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Post by The Real FCOD on May 16, 2009 14:01:10 GMT -5
Dawn came, and everyone gathered in the main room. Yet again, the town was surprised to find that everyone was still alive. Weird, right?
----------------------------------------------- Day Three will end on Thursday, May 21th at 3:00pm Eastern Time. With 18 alive, it will take 10 votes to start the countdown and 17 votes to insta-lynch.
--FCOD
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Post by storyteller0910 on May 16, 2009 14:02:19 GMT -5
This is a frustrating game.
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Post by storyteller0910 on May 16, 2009 14:02:46 GMT -5
Oh, and vote Pleonast
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Post by Natlaw on May 16, 2009 14:24:42 GMT -5
So yeah, Pleonast. He survived two Nights and a lynch. He isn't town, since I don't believe he would advocate lynching (==killing) him while his role says he can't be killed (barring something hidden). His 'scum blocked the lynch' idea seem absurd - wouldn't they have blocked the scum strongman lynch instead? So the questions is, do we try to lynch him again? I'm thinking he is a PFK with a weird win condition, but with no evidence for a vigilante or serial killer, he could be a scum Scotsman (just bluffing about his Night kill immunity and I see no reason for scum to target him). He must die before we can win, in case he is scum before lynch or lose. I think it's better to get it over with asap, but if the lynch fails again or helps him as PFK... The reason to post pone it, would be to focus on other players, but I don't think that is gonna work with the elephant in the room. Maybe the investigation results will give us a break .
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Post by sinjin on May 16, 2009 18:25:22 GMT -5
Ok, good news no town was night-killed last night. Bad news, Pleo wasn't night killed either. I have no idea what to think right now. There are too many possibilities: No scum kill last night: 1) We have a damn good Dr. 2) Scum can choose to attempt to recruit or kill and chose to recruit. 3) Pleo is not scum and was not recruited on Night one so they attempted to night-kill him and failed. 4) We have a role-blocker who chose wisely. No Pleo kill last night: 1) We don't have a vig. 2) We do have a vig. and they were unsuccessful in offing Pleo. 3) FCOH Night 1 you answered questions about the Day 2 lynch with this statement that could be interpreted in several ways:
This really doesn't say much. The town attempted to lynch Pleo. Pleo was not lynched. Therefore the town did not successfully lynch anyone. My question to you is:
Did non-town force/s successfully lynch someone = sachertorte Day 1?
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Post by The Real FCOD on May 16, 2009 18:37:34 GMT -5
There is only one lynch per day...the one voted upon by everyone. Nobody was lynched yesterday.
--FCOD
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Post by sinjin on May 16, 2009 18:44:29 GMT -5
There is only one lynch per day...the one voted upon by everyone. Nobody was lynched yesterday. --FCOD Ok, I'm going to take that to mean that the lynch was not switched from Pleo to sachertorte by some mechanism. Thank you.
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Post by Almost Human on May 16, 2009 18:53:51 GMT -5
There is only one lynch per day...the one voted upon by everyone. Nobody was lynched yesterday. --FCOD Ok, I'm going to take that to mean that the lynch was not switched from Pleo to sachertorte by some mechanism. Thank you. That's what it sounds like to me as well. I'm also wondering if we have normal NKs. Perhaps sachertorte's death was the previous Night's scum kill but it's delayed till dusk for some reason. No doubt it'll become clearer as the game progresses. More tomorrow when I'm sober.
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Post by special on May 16, 2009 19:34:29 GMT -5
I'm also wondering if we have normal NKs. Perhaps sachertorte's death was the previous Night's scum kill but it's delayed till dusk for some reason. He was also unable to vote yesterday, wasn't he? I wonder if that's related to this in some fashion.
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Post by KidVermicious on May 16, 2009 19:58:02 GMT -5
Vote: Pleonast
More tomorrow, but it won't be about Pleo.
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Post by sinjin on May 16, 2009 21:04:18 GMT -5
Investigators: I see you're peeping in here got anything to say?
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Post by RoOsh on May 16, 2009 22:24:07 GMT -5
This is a frustrating game. Why is it frustrating if no one dies in the morning? If anything that just gives us another day before LyLo. Unless of course people are being recruited or something like that, but still. No deaths usually is a good thing. I think that's a good thing. Though I do agree- I'm wondering if maybe the Scum are DK this game instead of NK? Or do we have a 3rd party DK? I guess we'll know that as more days pass. Does anyone today have a problem like Sach? Maybe we should keep an eye on that person then and see what happens to them.... Story- wanna continue your analysis from Day 1? And could someone perhaps do one of the Voting patterns on Day 2 and combine it with the Day 1 ones? Again (for those who don't read the "Away" threads- this is going to be my bad week, so I apologize in advance for that one. But I'll be free Thursday evening from school and I can devote more time then to this game). We shall see what happens as the Days continue. I don't think I'll have a problem with reaching my 5 posts. I'm me after all.
Who is on the Smite List for this week (AKA: at risk of dying/not posting enough), FCOD?-Those are the people who should be getting their words in ASAP instead.
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Post by Total Ullz on May 17, 2009 4:01:14 GMT -5
This is a frustrating game. Looks like this might be the game where you and NAF make it to end-game I'm not sure what to make of the no-lynch. But since we didn't seem to have a NK last Night - now might be a good time to test if we can lynch Pleo. However I'm still a bit worried if Pleo somehow can draw power from the votes on him. How about only people that votes for his lynch yesterDay, votes for him toDay? Better to be safe than sorry...
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Post by BillMc on May 17, 2009 6:12:13 GMT -5
However I'm still a bit worried if Pleo somehow can draw power from the votes on him. How about only people that votes for his lynch yesterDay, votes for him toDay? Better to be safe than sorry... Do you think this is Heroes and he's absorbing powers from the voters? If that's your line of thought, then the opposite could apply - he could use a power from a non-voter. Indeed, the only way to kill him may be for everyone to vote him. I can't read Pleo at the best of times, but at the moment if feels like its written in chinese, in invisibile ink. Vote: Pleo
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Post by Total Ullz on May 17, 2009 8:23:00 GMT -5
If that's your line of thought, then the opposite could apply - he could use a power from a non-voter. Indeed, the only way to kill him may be for everyone to vote him. In theory you are right of course. But since he has been trying to get votes from the start of the game - I think it is more likely that he wants votes then not
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Post by Total Ullz on May 17, 2009 8:35:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure how to get us to talk about anything else than Pleo. So I'm doing a wall-of-words on NAF to see if I can find anything worth talking about. Day 1 #1 - "Hi, everybody!" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=1#45978#5 - @ Sister Coyote: "Like every scum tell the answer is, "sometimes" and "it depends"" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=1#45983#14 - @ Pleos claim: "Ok, well good. I don't actually know what to do with this information, but...thanks?" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=1#45994#19 - respons to Sach reducing him to +1 and missed FCoD said Night counted. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=1#45999#21 - respons to Sach: The +1 was a joke agreeing with Sach on scum "would never do that" isn't saying much. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=1#46001#26 - @ Ploenast: You should take a look at Dr. Horrible-musical www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=1#46009#66 - rough at work, but will be back with a recap post www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=3#46075#92 - Votes Paul for his reaction to Sisters reaction to Pollux's joke vote. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=3#46075#93 - would like to table Pleo, but don't think it will happen. Would like to wait lynching Pleo before getting more information from the Day and Night. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=4#46124#189 - Sorry for being in the game so little, but has been busy. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=7#46342#292 - having trouble keeping his head above water. Still think Paul is scummy, but sees Inner Sticklers vote on a claimed power role on Day 1 as even more scummy. Votes Inner Sticklerwww.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=10#46455#295 - Explains that Sister Coyote is the claimed power role based on the message passing. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=10#46458#308 - unvotes IS with a "So you are town, you just didn't learn anything from TL's game. Good to know." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=11#46471#311 - votes Paul with a "Going back to Paul as there isn't much time and he is still the person I find scummiest" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=11#46474#312 - @ Zack: "Are you fucking kidding me with this magic bag shit Zach?" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=11#46475NIGHT 1 #60 - regaring scum fishing for roles: "No scum team I am aware of has gone on any fishing expiditions since, I think, the Pirates game." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=3#46576#76 - kind of fluff @ Sinjin regarding KidVs game on Giraffe. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=3#46605#78 - kind of fluff @ Sinjin regarding KidVs game on Giraffe. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=3#46607#79 - agrees that anti-town should be punished. But also adds that every single person is going to do soemthing anti town at soem point. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=3#46607#80 - agrees with Sach on "it's time to break out the "Scum wouldn't do that" missive" + just cause scum can talk at Day doesn't mean they do + Zlw sticking his neck out so quick is a null tell. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=3#46609#86 - agreeing with Sach + "I can tell you that my suspicion of paul stems from the fake fight I had with him in the Alpha Centuri game and that his posts with sister ring the same to me here as they did there. But like I said when I posted it, that's metagamey as hell and no one like a metagamer. But beyond that I am swimming here and doing the best I can to keep up." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=3#46615#92 - respons to Sach about the +1 comment + "It isn't that no one wants to hear what you have to say. It's that no one wants to drop the "scum wouldn't do that" etc etc line of thinking." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=4#46622DAY 2 #31 - @ Total Lost regarding the speculation on the numbers of groupies www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=2#46719#32 - "Also, it doesn't make a lick of sense to have those roles set up that way if there are only two groupies." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=2#46720#56 - don't get Pollux and Story not wanting to lynch Pleowww.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=2#46770#59 - thinks it is better do deal with Pleo early so we are "able to recover from any damage he might be able to do to us more easily, than to wait to deal with it until we have no room to make a mistake." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=2#46774#61 - Don't think FCoD would put in elements in a game that would break the balance + better to deal with Pleo now because: "But as town if we are going to take risks, the time to take that risk is as early as possible." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=3#46776#65 - Respons to Story regaring the use of the word "risk" + askes Story how he would like to deal with Pleo. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=3#46780#73 - "While I agree that Pleo is playing shaddy, the drawback to waiting is that we might not always be in a position to potentially waste a lynch on a townie." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=3#46790#77 - Still thinks a Pleo-lynch is the right thing to do + will go back to trying to find scum. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=3#46794#133 - votes Pleonastwww.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=5#46916#147 - respons to FCoDs warning that Hoopy needs to post more www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=5#46950#212 - asks RoOsh why he think Sachs vote was taken by scum. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=8#47174#224 - thinks Pleo made up his PM + he should still be lynched www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=8#47189
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Post by Total Ullz on May 17, 2009 8:44:59 GMT -5
I did find a thing or two to talk about Most of NAFs posts makes a lot of sense to me and I agree with a lot. But I just can't figure out the part about his vote for Paul. First he voted with the explanation: for his reaction to Sisters reaction to Pollux's joke vote. Then he change the vote to Inner Stickler based on: voting for a claimed power role on Day 1 (that would be Sister Coyote). This actually lead to Inner Stickler unvoting Sister Coyote. Then he returns to voting Paul (after Inner Stickler has claimed) being "he is still the person I find scummiest". So far - that is all fine by me. A lot of people find Paul scummy in pretty much every game he plays ;D The "weird" thing is after the lynch of Sister Coyote NAF gives a pretty good reason for why he found Pauls vote on Sister based on her vote for Pollox scummy in: #86 - agreeing with Sach + "I can tell you that my suspicion of paul stems from the fake fight I had with him in the Alpha Centuri game and that his posts with sister ring the same to me here as they did there. But like I said when I posted it, that's metagamey as hell and no one like a metagamer. But beyond that I am swimming here and doing the best I can to keep up." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=3#46615I think this is a much better reason than "for his vote" or "don't have much time and finds Paul scummiest". So why not just say that in the first place? Not much to talk about - but hey - at least I got to read the game once more
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Post by The Real FCOD on May 17, 2009 10:19:59 GMT -5
Who is on the Smite List for this week (AKA: at risk of dying/not posting enough), FCOD?Boozy is the only one who will be removed from the game. I haven't decided if I'm going to kill him or sub him yet, but one of those two will happen if he doesn't participate in toDay. --FCOD
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Post by Almost Human on May 17, 2009 11:45:53 GMT -5
I'm also wondering if we have normal NKs. Perhaps sachertorte's death was the previous Night's scum kill but it's delayed till dusk for some reason. He was also unable to vote yesterday, wasn't he? I wonder if that's related to this in some fashion. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else is suffering from an inability to vote today. In the meantime, now we know sach's death yesterday wasn't some kind of switch from Pleo, I guess we should chuck the elephant out of the room so we can talk about other stuff. vote Pleoas sinjin said, he can't be unkillable.
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Post by Natlaw on May 17, 2009 14:26:04 GMT -5
--Day One-- Sister Coyote (5) - Almost Human, Kat!, Roosh, sinjin, sachertorte Pollux (3) - Special Ed, Pleonast, MHaye Inner Stickler (2) - KidVermicious, Paul sachertorte (1) - Pollux Paul (1) - NAF1138
No vote: zlw, Natlaw and Inner Stickler Never voted: Total Lost, MiteyMouse, Boozahol and Storyteller
--Day Two-- Pleonast (10) - sachertorte, KidV, Roosh, Natlaw, Inner Stickler, NAF1138, Special Ed, Paul, Storyteller, sinjin, MHaye Roosh (2) - Pleonast, Kat! Paul (1) - Almost Human Kat! (1) - Pollux
No vote: Total Lost Never voted: Boozahol (no computer), BillMc (subbed in for MiteyMouse), zlw (purple vote Pleonast). sachertorte's vote didn't count.
Not much to analyze because whatever Pleonast's alignment is, scum probably didn't care one way or another. If scum, they knew he was immune. If recruitable, maybe if scum knew he had some sort of power, but no way to tell if it was worth he risk
Only other thing is Total Lost didn't end with a vote again, but she had a vote for MiteyMouse for promising posts but lurking. She unvoted when BillMc subbed in. Early she said she was is the 'don't lynch Pleo' camp, but agreed (strongly) he is playing anti-town. Others in that camp: Pollux - wanted a full claim first Storyteller - if telling truth we shouldn't mislynch him, otherwise not because he wants us too Almost Human - suspicious of Pleo for wanting to be lynched while providing nothing to support that Total Lost - I want to make up my own mind, not lynching because Pleonast wants us to
The reasons to vote Pleonast: KidV - This is getting a little hairball up in here Roosh - perfectly fine with getting this junk over with Natlaw - see no reason to vote in Pleonast purple Inner Stickler - Screw it, Pleonast should die NAF1138 - we aren't talking about anything else Special Ed - we're getting nowhere Paul - Pleo needs to claim, need to lynch even if Jester Storyteller - hated it, but train had left the station and Story willing to be a bomb buffer sinjin - unvoted BillMc, moved to Pleonast (lynch if recruitable, lynch if lying) MHaye - with a heavy heart, to avoid repeat Today. The only vote after Pleonast's claim, but MHaye had said earlier he would vote him
In case Pleonast does need to collect a vote from everyone - Pollux, Kat!, zlw, Boozahol and Pleonast himself didn't vote him yet.
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Post by zlw on May 17, 2009 17:44:47 GMT -5
I didn't vote for fear of retribution which was unfounded as it turned out. Last night I followed Pleonast, he only quietly muttered to himself. For those who haven't figured it out, I am pretty much a tracker not an alignment based role using the first power option. I was hoping to get a hint for Inner Stickler so we could both target the same person but it didn't happen.
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Post by sinjin on May 17, 2009 18:19:51 GMT -5
So zlw what took you so long to post your non-result?
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Post by zlw on May 17, 2009 19:22:10 GMT -5
Well you see I got this pesky condition, sometimes one ailment or another doesn't allow me to type out anything. I can briefly read and keep up but the newest of the ailments causes great distress when the typing starts. Luckily the ailments go away a lot during the week, but they tend to stick around on weekends much to my dismay. Late nights I can usually do it painfree and during school hours, but to much of a pain in the ass to do when the littlest ailment equates me typing to me not paying attention to her.
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Post by KidVermicious on May 17, 2009 19:41:13 GMT -5
Not sure I've ever heard one's crotchfruit referred to as "little ailments" before.
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Post by sinjin on May 17, 2009 20:18:14 GMT -5
Um yeah zlw. I have crotch fruit myself, they were 1 and 3 when I started grad school. Not typing this much:
because they were distracting, not so much. You didn't even need to read anything except your morning pm. All you had to do then was just post your results.
vote zlw
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Post by sinjin on May 17, 2009 20:21:18 GMT -5
NETA: You didn't even need to type at all. You merely had to copy and paste. Lame.
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Post by zlw on May 17, 2009 21:25:04 GMT -5
I should have followed you, BTW were is Inner Sticklers results? Or the counter claiming town people? That's what I thought, if Inner Stickler is town no other method but me being as well. You have been on this lynch for a while, so have fun being anti-town.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 17, 2009 21:26:50 GMT -5
Man... what a weekend....
So... The whole Pleo thing would be a waste of time to discuss.
Vote: Pleo
Gonna go look into who else I find suspcious now that we are starting to get to the nitty gritty and people are finally saying enough to be found suspicious.
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Post by sinjin on May 17, 2009 21:30:58 GMT -5
I haven't seen IS on board since last Night. I'm on your case because I have seen you on site several times and not posting results. I am eager to see what IS has to say and why he has been MIA as well.
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Post by zlw on May 17, 2009 21:34:46 GMT -5
Well my downfall is I check the board even when I cannot stick around, so in the future so you can properly deduce what I am up to I will use the idlemafia login when I am unable to type so I won't appear to be on. That should clear that up, still doesn't explain how you think the tandem of town investigative journalists are scum when clearly if we were lying the towns would have counter claimed long ago. You are smudging shit worse than a two year old with a diaper full of "play dough".
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