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Post by NAF1138 on May 20, 2009 14:08:34 GMT -5
Under 24 hours to go, so I'll
Vote: Pleo
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 20, 2009 14:14:11 GMT -5
PLEO.... me saying that the godfather is pretty much powerless is a slip? How so? I've never seen a game were the godfather had any power other than the latent ability to be investigated as town. Once that has occured what power would the godfather have? I have never seen or heard of an otherwise powered godfather. Do you know something that would imply otherwise? Or are you just slinging shit? In some games the godfather will do the Night-kill. So (s)he has the power to deside who's killed... Wait... so if the godfather is killed the scum don't get a NK the rest of the game?
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Post by Total Ullz on May 20, 2009 14:29:14 GMT -5
In some games the godfather will do the Night-kill. So (s)he has the power to deside who's killed... Wait... so if the godfather is killed the scum don't get a NK the rest of the game? The MOD decide this... but yes, in theory that could happen...
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Post by Total Ullz on May 20, 2009 14:31:13 GMT -5
I forgot: 4 letters to say I didn't edit but add: Paul you know this as well - anything can happen!
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Post by Pleonast on May 20, 2009 14:44:40 GMT -5
PLEO.... me saying that the godfather is pretty much powerless is a slip? How so? I've never seen a game were the godfather had any power other than the latent ability to be investigated as town. Once that has occured what power would the godfather have? I have never seen or heard of an otherwise powered godfather. Do you know something that would imply otherwise? Or are you just slinging shit? It's a basic scum finding technique: looking for players who display knowledge different than what a Townie would know. (Or even sometimes not knowing something that a Townie should know, right Almost?) You were talking about a powerless Godfather and it makes we think, how would paul know the Godfather is powerless? I don't whether or not the Godfather (if there is one in the game) is, you apparently do. Which is why I brought it up. Now, it's possible you're a Townie who doesn't have any extra information and is simply guessing. But that's something you need to explain to us, so we know what you're thinking. It'll be up to the rest of us to decide if you're telling the truth or if it was a slip.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 20, 2009 15:30:12 GMT -5
PLEO.... me saying that the godfather is pretty much powerless is a slip? How so? I've never seen a game were the godfather had any power other than the latent ability to be investigated as town. Once that has occured what power would the godfather have? I have never seen or heard of an otherwise powered godfather. Do you know something that would imply otherwise? Or are you just slinging shit? It's a basic scum finding technique: looking for players who display knowledge different than what a Townie would know. (Or even sometimes not knowing something that a Townie should know, right Almost?) You were talking about a powerless Godfather and it makes we think, how would paul know the Godfather is powerless? I don't whether or not the Godfather (if there is one in the game) is, you apparently do. Which is why I brought it up. Now, it's possible you're a Townie who doesn't have any extra information and is simply guessing. But that's something you need to explain to us, so we know what you're thinking. It'll be up to the rest of us to decide if you're telling the truth or if it was a slip. You're taking what I said out of it's context. The quote you are questioning was in a post in which I was addressing ZLW for his voting Sinjin even though she investigated as town. The only way that could make sense is if he thought she was a godfather. I'm not the one who suggested that there is one. ZLW indirectly did with his vote. I can see how you overlooked that though, seeing as ZLW refuses to outright say that he thinks Sinjin is a godfather and instead chooses to dance around it hinting at it vaguely. As far as me assuming a godfather is powerless, I already explained my thought process in the last post.... it is the most common setup for the role. I base my knowledge of roles on games I had played previously and www.sitesled.com/members/mikeburnfire/mafiascum04.swfSo I naturally assume that the godfather's only ability is a latent one to be investigated as town. I suppose the godfather could also decide on the NK... but that seems more like a group ability that the scum would otherwise have even if the godfather role didn't exist, so I don't see how that is attributed solely to the godfather role. Although... like TL said... anything can happen... it's all up to the mod.
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Post by Nanook on May 20, 2009 15:40:00 GMT -5
Hi. Apparently I've been subbed in. I haven't actually been following this game though heh. I see there's less than 24 hours to go, so I guess I have a power catch up job ahead of me.
I don't know that I'll be of any use Today.
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Post by sinjin on May 20, 2009 18:01:51 GMT -5
Bleh, nothing is happening here. Let's just get on with the game.
Unvote:
Vote: Pleonast
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Post by KidVermicious on May 20, 2009 18:52:59 GMT -5
Yeah.
Vote: Pleo
No, Zach, I don't think that makes sense. Unless you're scum.
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Post by special on May 20, 2009 19:11:29 GMT -5
I would be voting Pleo, but that would start the countdown. I realize that it's close enough to almost not matter, but I'm not certain everyone has gotten their 5 posts in. I'd like to provide them every opportunity to do so.
If I log in in the morning, I'll vote Pleo at that point since there will be less than 12 hours left in the Day anyway.
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Post by zlw on May 20, 2009 20:02:22 GMT -5
No, Zach, I don't think that makes sense. Unless you're scum. Any chance of expanding on that? You don't care that we couldn't lynch him? I was, and based on the discussions so were many others. So I hoped to find a weakness, how you find it as scum is.....?
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Post by KidVermicious on May 20, 2009 20:09:46 GMT -5
Dude... he's already lynchproof, what else did you hope to find?
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Post by Gir! on May 20, 2009 21:09:27 GMT -5
Oh, good grief. I did not vote Roosh solely for calling the groupies Masons.
What I voted him for was that: First, he called the groupies "Mason" Second, he speculated about third parties claiming to be Masons (*exact quote below), when none of the Groupies claimed to be Masons, nor did they claim the most common Mason abilities (knowing who all the other Masons are and knowing their alignment). It's the "first" combined with the "second" that's questionable. *exact quote: "if Pleo is not this person, I'm worried about the Masons actually- I really hope there are more than 2 of them. Because if there are not, and there are only 2 of them, I could easily see each of them playing one of the 2 roles above and being a 3rd party or a scummy group trying to blend in." - at that time, third parties were still part of the WC, so scummy and 3rd party would both be smudgy.
And third, he implies (or I infer, take your pick) that the death of a Groupie will prove their alignment--he actually says "I'm assuming that hopefully by the endgame we won't have all the masons alive, and so at least one of them will be able to prove who they are." but in context, I took it as saying that such a death would prove their alignment. Which it won't since (forgive me if this next part isn't totally clear, because I'm having trouble wording it coherently), even if Pollux is Town, his PM doesn't say the others are, and even if AH is Town, he PM doesn't say the others are--and if one or both of them are Town, they're probably telling the truth about their PM, so they can't be positive that even the other one is Town, much less the other groupies. (Essentally, both of them are roughly one-shot role investigators. Not Masons.) It came across to me like Roosh was saying that he'd treat the Groupies as proven Town when one died, which they wouldn't be, except that maybe he knew that they weren't scum (which he would know if he were scum).
He does go back later and contradict my inference (he says "Just don't assume Masons= Town").
Oh, and it's funny that Roosh doesn't like to use the term "Groupies" because he equates it with "Whore". Roosh? The groupies are whores, or at least sluts, at least where Captain Hammer is concerned. They'd do the weird stuff with him.
Total fluff now: zlw, is Zach Lee Wright your real name?
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Post by Pollux Oil on May 20, 2009 21:30:01 GMT -5
I haven't gotten my five posts in yet, but I'll get them done between now and the deadline since I have free time...I just can't figure out what the hell to talk about.
I think Pleonast's thing about Paul saying the godfather is "powerless" is nitpicking. I got what paul meant to say, I don't think it's that big a deal.
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Post by Gir! on May 20, 2009 22:49:13 GMT -5
I said: Even if I was Town a post like that could make it easy for scum to say later:" Look! Signs of scum-buddies" or if I was scum make me look really good after a mis-lynch going:"See I told you so".
So I would love to know why you felt the need to make a post saying you didn't have Sinjin on your suspicion list.That is because I'm polite! What I should have said was: Even if you were Town a post like that could make it easy for scum to say later:" Look! Signs of scum-buddies" or if you were scum make you look really good after a mis-lynch going:"See I told you so".
So I would love to know why you felt the need to make a post saying you didn't have Sinjin on your suspicion list.Maybe I'm just stupid tonight, but I don't see a difference in meaning between the first version and the second version. You changed the "I" to "you", yes, but what's the difference in meaning? I only ask because it's apparently enough to rate a storyteller vote from you. I'm going to bed. I expect I'll be voting for Pleo when I get up in the morning.
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Post by Inner Stickler on May 20, 2009 23:59:28 GMT -5
The Pleo bandwagon seems to be rolling along pretty well. I have doubts about its efficacy but a lot of people seem to think that whatever protection he has is one-shot. Me, I keep flashing back the the recent SDMB game with the unlynchable cabalists. I'm not voting for either zlw or sinjin for what should be obvious reasons and neither Kat nor storyteller have pinged me. I don't know how much time I will have in the morning. I have a few more things to wrap up now. I'll try to check back in before I go to bed with a vote.
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Post by Total Ullz on May 21, 2009 2:10:33 GMT -5
Maybe I'm just stupid tonight, but I don't see a difference in meaning between the first version and the second version. You changed the "I" to "you", yes, but what's the difference in meaning? I only ask because it's apparently enough to rate a storyteller vote from you. I'm going to bed. I expect I'll be voting for Pleo when I get up in the morning. I already made it clear that I'm pro the Pleo-lynch. And I still don't understand why the thought of him getting something good out of the votes is dismissed. To me it makes a lot of sense to just lynch him with a minimum of votes - and not have all voting for him.
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Post by Total Ullz on May 21, 2009 2:11:51 GMT -5
The Pleo bandwagon seems to be rolling along pretty well. I have doubts about its efficacy but a lot of people seem to think that whatever protection he has is one-shot. Me, I keep flashing back the the recent SDMB game with the unlynchable cabalists. I'm not voting for either zlw or sinjin for what should be obvious reasons and neither Kat nor storyteller have pinged me. I don't know how much time I will have in the morning. I have a few more things to wrap up now. I'll try to check back in before I go to bed with a vote. You don't have to vote for people already with a vote. Feel free to vote for any player in the game.
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Post by Gir! on May 21, 2009 6:59:58 GMT -5
vote Pleo
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Post by zlw on May 21, 2009 7:22:34 GMT -5
unvote sinjin
vote pleo
And total fluff, no not exactly my name. Some parts are in it though.
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Post by The Real FCOD on May 21, 2009 8:11:21 GMT -5
Vote count: Pleonast (10) - Storyteller, BillMc, Almost Human, Paul, Roosh, MHaye, NAF1138, sinjin, Kat!, zlw zlw (1) - KidV Kat (1) - Pollux Storyteller (1) - Total Lost You didn't unvote first. --FCOD
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 21, 2009 9:04:45 GMT -5
Vote count: Pleonast (10) - Storyteller, BillMc, Almost Human, Paul, Roosh, MHaye, NAF1138, sinjin, Kat!, zlw zlw (1) - KidV Kat (1) - Pollux Storyteller (1) - Total Lost You didn't unvote first. --FCOD Can the same be said about Kat!? Her last post was a vote for Pleo but she didn't unvote. Did you forget Kat!? Or are you trying to be sneaky for some gain that I can't figure out?
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 21, 2009 9:06:01 GMT -5
Never mind.... I'm an idiot.... I was looking at it wrong and see now that Pollux is voting FOR Kat... not the other way around like I saw it originally.
Sorry. ><
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Post by Total Ullz on May 21, 2009 9:24:46 GMT -5
Unvote Story
Vote Sinjin
I know IS said she turned up Town - but I don't think she is after reading into zlw. The w-o-w is comming up shortly.
I think zlw has a point and I would like Inner Stickler to consider confirming this point: In zlw's role-PM it says: part of towns investigation team. I can't see why a mod would write that and then not make both on that team town.
The fact that Sinjin keeps on going after zlw is indeed scummy looking to me.
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Post by Total Ullz on May 21, 2009 9:32:05 GMT -5
Okay - going with the next to post: zlw DAY 1: #2 - votes Sister Coyote based on her "can scum talk during the Day" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=1#45980#6 - explains the vote with scum will "Play dumb as to what scum can and cannot do" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=1#45984#15 -@ Pleonast: lynch-reasons on Day 1 are often weak + "I stated my case, she answered, you stood up and said it was flimsy as well" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=1#45995#48 - fluff www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=2#46039#54 - regarding Pleo's claim: Don't care and don't think any Town Power role should care (because scum might have a watcher) + "He is not worth the loss of a town power role when we can just lynch him at our leisure (sooner rather than later I would hope)" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=2#46050#67 - confirms that he speculated about a scum watcher because he played in a game with one resently www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=3#46083#80 - Would like to hear from people saying Pleo should live Day 1 and be dealt with another Day + "I'd rather lynch him toDay if nothing else comes up" + but willing to hold off and hear what others have to say www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=3#46107#178 - fluff + watching the show www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=6#46325#180 - fluff about the show and redheads www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=7#46327#285 - With "some hesitation" the vote stays on Sister coyote + don't know the her alignment but think her PM could have been modified. Might change vote later. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=10#46447#288 - "Don't like it.... nopre not at all" + unvotes Sister Coyote + vote Inner Sticklerwww.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=10#46451#291 - "Can we get some of the one vote offs get into the fray? I'll make a mental note your first choice is (the one voter) but to play it safe isn't in the best interest of town right now is it?" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=10#46454#301 - "a town investigator damn" + unvotes Inner Sticklerwww.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=11#46464#302 - "Any more information from your role, male or female IS?" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=11#46465#306 - "Wrong, he needs to answer male or female it is in the towns best interest." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=11#46469#310 - "He is an investigator, please unvote me, and him." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=11#46473#313 - shows IS the post where he breadcrumbed www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=11#46476#329 - Thinks the damage of losing an investor is greater then losing a message bearer. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=11#46493NIGHT 1: #5 - @ Pleo: don't think his claim has confirmed him at all + is happy Sister Coyote got lynched and "my hunch about her fake naive play early on was right" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=1#46517#14 - don't see the question to Inner Stickler regardign gender as "fishing" but more "confirmation" + @ Pleo: "you have managed to get out more roles than anyone here" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=1#46528#18 - Inner Stickler and zlw is town + "have a weird vibe on NAF" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=1#46532#22 - regarding both IS and zlw being town he'd "lay money on it being so" + talks about their night option www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=1#46536#28 - "Yes I made a huge error and I apologize IS, and all other townies I made big booboo." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=1#46542#32 - @ sachertorte: Yes, I made a mistake + what do we do now? www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=2#46546#38 - thinks Sinjin is focusing too much on zlw and Inner Stickler + "this synergy work we would have to be aligned with same win conditions anything other would make no sense." + @ Pleo: Quotes pleos questions to zlw and asks how he could have answered without a claim. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=2#46552#48 - regarding the theory that either zlw/Inner Stickler is scum: "Seriously I don't think that could work at all with the way my PM is." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=2#46562#50 - "From PM Quote:You are one half of the town's news team" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=2#46566#52 - thinks we need to look at other things then just zlw/Inner Stickler for a while www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=2#46568 #54 - explains his vote on Day 1 on Inner Stickler with the "I'm not sure that Sister Coyote hasn't changed her alignment anyway" www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=2#46570#57 - fine Sinjin thinks he is scum + w-o-w on NAF and concludes: "Okay not a lot to go on other than the attacking Paul and defending SC in a roundabout way. Can't call him scummy for it, but something to look at further I think." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=2#46573#63 - w-o-w on Paul and concludes: "Nothing that I find interesting, I was really looking for interactions between him and SisC and NAF and I found some but not anything that strikes me." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=3#46579#71 - fluff www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=3#46597#118 - RL-stuff www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=922&page=4#46681DAY 2 #1 - "FTR I picked NAF last night, nothing was revealed. Be back later this evening, have kids to take care of." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=1#46686#43 - explains the different options in role + willing to vote Pleo + "as for pinging me, that would be NAF but it's hardly anything to even smudge him for to be honest I think you all call it "meta gaming" " www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=2#46740#45 - NETA: if they didn't have option 2 zlw/Inner Stickler didn't have to have the same alignment + one half of the towns news team. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=2#46742#80 - Maybe ELE can choose to recruit and not kill www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=3#46797#189 - asks Pleo of his vote for RoOsh was the answer to the Bait & Switch-theory www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=926&page=7#47125NIGHT 2: [that was easy] DAY 3: #20 - didn't vote for fear of retribution + followed Pleo who only muttered to himself + is a tracker www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=1#47316#22 - explains RL-reasons for not posting in the game weekends and other hours www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=1#47318#26 - respons to Sinjins vote as being anti-town and something she has been on for a while www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=1#47324#29 - will not appear online in the future + since no one has counter claimed he can't see Sinjin being right about zlw being scum www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=1#47328#30 - agrees with getting Pleo but think he might be third party + with no counter claim either zlw/IS are lying or Town has no investigators + votes Sinjin for her vote on zlw www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=2#47329#37 - Pleo did absolutely nothing during the Night + Explains his case on Sinjin for her being on his ass and her refusal to use any intelligence. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=2#47354#38 - zlw/IS are tracker and cop and will get more "goods" if they choose the same target. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=2#47355#39 - explains role by qouting part of his role-PM www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=2#47356#42 - post PM from FCOD regarding Pleowww.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=2#47359#43 - post link to "anchor" crumb www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=2#47360#45 - NAF sat around doing nothing NIGHT 1 + speculate on IS investigating zlw + wonders how IS/zlw can pick the same target www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=2#47367#47 - Explain that he did want scum to know who-was-who on the news team + "Since me by myself cannot do much unless I follow someone that actually does something that is." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=2#47369#61 - IS would have said something if the PMs were not alike --> anyone thinking the new-team is not town will play anti-town ie scum. Dispute it fine, "but all common sense or any sense points to us both being town." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=3#47399#98 - "Who is the best person to attack any rookie investigator? Scum you have an answer? I bet it would be the Godfather since he comes back as town. I'm not that stupid, and I am keeping track of the people who think I am." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=4#47458#119 - have said his piece regarding the new-teams alignment + still believe IS would have said something if the PMs didn't match eachother. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=4#47495#127 - Watched Pleo to try and figure out how to kill him + thinks people are either playing smart or they're scum. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=5#47503#128 - @ KidV: you're allowing Sinjin a free pass www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=5#47504#129 - vote on Sinjin is to point out who he thinks is scummy because of actions www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=5#47505#137 - don't think his style is anti-town + waiting to hear if KidV thinks he reasons for following Pleo was suitable www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=5#47523#160 - Asks KidV to explain why tracking Pleo would be something scum would do www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=6#47576#169 - unvotes Sinjin + votes Pleowww.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=940&page=6#47609
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 21, 2009 9:33:36 GMT -5
Because they are Investigative News Journalists.... I took it for color..... but I can see how I might have misconstrued that.
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Post by Pollux Oil on May 21, 2009 9:53:12 GMT -5
Ugh my internet died for no reason last night. Less time for me to get with the program. I know IS said she turned up Town - but I don't think she is after reading into zlw. The w-o-w is comming up shortly. I think zlw has a point and I would like Inner Stickler to consider confirming this point: In zlw's role-PM it says: part of towns investigation team. I can't see why a mod would write that and then not make both on that team town. He could have fudged the role PM, too. I personally think that sinjin vs. zlw is town on town and a huge distraction (but not a Pleo-sized one, he's his own size) and if we make the mistake of lynching one of the two when given the option, it will be extremely bad for us.
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Post by BillMc on May 21, 2009 9:56:17 GMT -5
This Pleonast crap is crazy. If you guys lynch him again, and he doesn't die and then he's still alive on Day 4, what are we gonna do? Try to lynch him a third time? That's a fair point - how many times do we try and lynch him? Every time we fail to lynch him the scum just pick more of us off. While there must be a way of killing him, he's not willing to share it. If Pleo isn't pushing up the daises at the end of Today then I think we just have to put him in the naughty corner and totally ignore him tomorrow.
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Post by BillMc on May 21, 2009 10:02:17 GMT -5
ZLW.... wtf are you talking.... you sound like Peeker and Meeko's bastard son that was then abandoned only to be raised by Seeker.... That is a truly horrible image - I need to go lie down in a dark room. Listen... why would you not just play it straight? If you are who you say you are (and I believe you) then you are a town power role. You should be trying to clarify things by being extremely clear about what stance you are taking and why.... being vague and leaving everything up to us is not helping at all. Besides that.... like we keep saying... going after a godfather now is not the best play possible. If you are wrong we lose a town when all real evidence pointed to her being town all along. I'm not really getting any scummy vibes off of Sinjin, so for the moment, I'm willing to accept that she's town. Even if she is a godfather, it's a coin flip. For now we would be better going after folk we can prove a case against - and if we are still in doubt later in the game, lynch her then.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 21, 2009 10:03:58 GMT -5
I agree... my vote is placed under the hope that his survival was a one time use power or an inherent single use thing... like a scotsman....
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