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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 1, 2009 14:12:40 GMT -5
BANG!
Everyone jolted awake to the sound of a gunshot followed by what sounded like a little girl screaming.
"AAAAAAAHHHHHHH! Is this pain? I think this is what pain feels like!! WAAAaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh" :thud:
By the time everyone got to the main hall, Captain Hammer was already dead, with a single gunshot to the chest.
"What do we do now??? Our hero is dead!!!! WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO NOW???" said the Mayor.
That's when someone noticed the other body. Laying across the room from Captain Hammer's corpse, Paul's limp form was a grisly sight. His head had been bashed in, and his shirt torn, revealing a telltale tattoo.
Storyteller (AKA Captain Hammer), Town Vigilante is dead. Paul (AKA Tie Die), Vanilla ELE is dead.
----------------------------------------------- Day Five will end on Sunday, June 7th at 3:00pm Eastern Time. With 12 alive, it will take 7 votes to start the countdown and 11 votes to insta-lynch.
--FCOD
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jun 1, 2009 14:17:50 GMT -5
I also have good news to report. I investigated Kat and found that she is ELE as well.
Vote: Kat
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Post by sinjin on Jun 1, 2009 14:21:06 GMT -5
Yeah Storyteller. Yeah IS. Boo ELE.
Vote: Kat
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Post by sinjin on Jun 1, 2009 14:22:02 GMT -5
what happened there?
Vote: Kat
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 1, 2009 14:23:08 GMT -5
Well this is gonna be a short day isn't it.
Kat! (2) - Inner Stickler, sinjin
--FCOD
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Post by NAF1138 on Jun 1, 2009 14:23:26 GMT -5
First off
I FREAKING KNEW IT!
Second
Vote: kat
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jun 1, 2009 14:31:09 GMT -5
So how many ELE members do we think are hanging around?
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 1, 2009 14:36:21 GMT -5
Farewell Storyteller. You served us well, even unto death.
I think that Inner Stickler's report on Kat''s alignment renders a lynch of Kat inevitable. It's almost certainly reliable, as we're not close enough to LyLo - especially with the death of a second member of the ELE - for them to be making a game-ending play.
For now Vote: Kat! .
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 1, 2009 14:39:19 GMT -5
Wow. That's a nice way to wake up.
Vote Kat.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 1, 2009 14:44:31 GMT -5
Wait- do we wanna trigger the count down and start the vote early? It's probably not the best to just burn a day so quickly.
Unvote Kat Though I'm all for voting her and all- I'm just doing this to prevent an early trigger.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 1, 2009 14:55:16 GMT -5
Wait- do we wanna trigger the count down and start the vote early? It's probably not the best to just burn a day so quickly. Unvote Kat Though I'm all for voting her and all- I'm just doing this to prevent an early trigger. I don't think we run any risk of not lynching KAT! today. I say we talk a bit before getting to Night! We got new infomations based on the alignment of Paul and we really should use that to go back and read what he said and did.
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Post by Natlaw on Jun 1, 2009 15:08:28 GMT -5
Nice, that means we're most likely at 9 town / 3 ELE Today and 8/2 Tomorrow. No vote yet to not start the countdown.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 1, 2009 15:22:18 GMT -5
Well played, story.
We'll certainly lynch Kat ToDay, but no need to rush it.
In other news:
No vote for me, again. vote Kat
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Post by BillMc on Jun 1, 2009 15:56:00 GMT -5
Slightly longer long weekend than i planned - off to catch up on the end of Day 4
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Post by BillMc on Jun 1, 2009 16:19:18 GMT -5
Glad to see Paul was scum. Looks like this could be a short day, I will be voting Kat.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 1, 2009 20:38:27 GMT -5
Dammit, Paul, I told you you were acting scummy . Good shooting, Story. It's interesting that Scum shot for him and not the claimed investigator, I'm wondering how much that had to do with his suspicion list. I'll probably be voting for Kat again, but not yet. I also want to take a closer look at what happened with the voting for her Yesterday, and see if there's any point at voting in the unconfirmed pool as opposed to taking the bird in the hand. Nobody has brought it up yet, but I see no need to consider mistrusting IS at this juncture.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Jun 1, 2009 20:46:00 GMT -5
Fuck... Well that's shitty... Just a little confused as to why Story killed himself and the ELE decided to take out one of their own.... Oh well... see you all next game
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jun 1, 2009 20:59:56 GMT -5
Nobody has brought it up yet, but I see no need to consider mistrusting IS at this juncture. But you're not above planting the idea?
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 1, 2009 21:13:51 GMT -5
Nobody has brought it up yet, but I see no need to consider mistrusting IS at this juncture. But you're not above planting the idea? Not at all my intent. But it's the first thing I think of when an cop claims, and it comes up again the first time said cop brings scum to the table. So I thought about, decided that it made no sense for you to be scum bussing Town or one of your own, and thought I'd mention it.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 1, 2009 23:35:45 GMT -5
Just so we now have a bigger picture: Final Vote counts in Color: *I'm going to take the liberty of assuming that IS's investigation of Kat is correct and that she is scum (so she will be in red, though that hasn't been confirmed yet). Sinjin has also been labeled as Town, however, as a potential godfather- she will NOT be labeled in Blue. Only Confirmed Town will be Blue. Suspected or Confirmed Scum will be Red.
Day One:
Sister Coyote (5) - Almost Human, Kat!, Roosh, sinjin, sachertorte Pollux (3) - Special Ed, Pleonast, MHaye Inner Stickler (2) - KidVermicious, Paul sachertorte (1) - Pollux Paul (1) - NAF1138
Day Two:
Pleonast (10) - KidV, Roosh, Natlaw, Inner Stickler, NAF1138, Special Ed, Paul, Storyteller, sinjin, MHaye Roosh (2) - Pleonast, Kat! Paul (1) - Almost Human Kat! (1) - Pollux
Day Three:
Pleonast (11) - Storyteller, BillMc, Almost Human, Paul, Roosh, MHaye, NAF1138, sinjin, Kat!, zlw, Natlaw zlw (1) - KidV Kat (1) - Pollux sinjin (1) - Total Lost
Day 4:
Nanook (6) - NAF1138, Paul, MHaye, Total Lost, Kat, Roosh NAF1138 (3) - Pleonast, Natlaw, Nanook MHaye (2) - Pollux, Inner Stickler Kat! (1) - KidVermicious
*If there's any errors let me know and I'll correct it/update it.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 2, 2009 0:01:11 GMT -5
Also the ELE Members are (from the Show according to IMDB are):
Dead Bowie -Pleonast (Claimed) Professor Normal -Sach Fake Thomas Jefferson - Sister Coyote Tie-Die -Paul Fury Leika Snake Bite Bad Horse - Leader of the ELE
That's 7 members right there, and we've already seen though that not all ELE Members are scum (thanks to Sach's death), and Pleonast has claimed to be Town as well but has claimed to be DeadBowie.
So that leaves 3 ELE Member names still at large- so if we REALLY want to play it conservative, I'd say there's 3 scum still out there. Though that'd mean that we started the game with 5 scum (if all ELE members are scum besides Pleo and Sach). Or perhaps I'm reading too much into the Canon- perhaps there are some ELE Members out there who are also Town?
If so, would they like to come forwards and claim? That'd make them great investigative targets (in case if the scum try to play the "I'm ELE but Town" card. We could potentially even have 6 scum if ALL The ELE but Sach was scum (but that'd be REALLY tough to believe because right now, Pleonast does seem pretty damn unkillable....)
So I'm not sure of what the scum numbers are, but I'm willing to say maybe 3 left is a good estimate? We still have the Godfather out there- so now we're going to have to start thinking about the People who investigate as Town with equal suspicion, but that doesn't mean we should start stringing them up right away.
One thing to note- we do have a large pool of unknowns BUT this is a good and a bad thing- it's bad cuz yeah- a large potential group of people to hide in for scum. However, it's also beneficial as we have not found our Doctor yet. As long as the Doctor remains hidden- we can still use our Investigator. Scum have the great WIFOM to make at night: If they target the unknown pool trying to kill the doctor, they hurt their own pool to hide in. If scum try taking out the confirmed/known roles they run the risk of 1. Hitting a protected target (Inner Stickler) and wasting a NK, or they run the risk of also allowing another successful investigation as well by IS, which'll help reduce the unknown pool slowly. As long as The doctor remains in the unknown pool, I'm a fan of not mass claiming.
At this juncture if any ELE members were to claim it'd be helpful though to the Town (in the vein of Pleonast) though, as I would regard them with suspicion and I'm currently treating most ELE as scummier than an ordinary claim, until given reason not to (as there's only 3 of them left and it's probably a safe bet that one of those 3 left is still probably scum- :cough: Like right now, I'm assuming Kat is probably a member of the ELE- the WC certainly states that the scum are ALL ELE members, so it's unlikely to have a random person be scum unless they are somehow connected to the ELE).
Actually- Kat- would you like to claim anything in your defense?
*Pleonast... I want to believe you're Town... but I'm not sure. I am of the mind that trying to lynch you is a futile and ANTI-Town thing to do though (as the DK's seem to be connected to you), but I'm just not sure what to make of your role. It seems GREATLY overpowered in my opinion, and for that reason, it makes me lean towards you being town rather than scum- because unkillable scum or a Double Scotsman is a REALLY unbalanced thing in the game....
It is interesting to note you've lost your vote again. Your thoughts on yourself? Do you still fear you are able to be recruited and that you investigate as scum? Because I Think you might be town, and just REALLY badly misread your PM or something....
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 2, 2009 5:09:33 GMT -5
Nobody has brought it up yet, but I see no need to consider mistrusting IS at this juncture. But you're not above planting the idea? Don't think other players haven't already asked the question without going into print. Why do you think I said your report was "almost certainly" reliable? It's because I considered the possibility that you were an ELE member bussing a non-ELE member, and decided that, in the gamestate as it stood last Night, the ELE weren't close enough to winning for such a false accusation to make sense. However, not having all the information the ELE have, I qualified my comment.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 2, 2009 7:17:38 GMT -5
Good night and good luck, good citizens. I believe in you. After all, a hero doesn't care that you're a bunch of stinky alcoholic bums.
- Captain Hammer (The hammer is my penis)
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 2, 2009 7:50:44 GMT -5
Kat! (4) - Inner Stickler, sinjin, NAF1138, MHaye
--FCOD
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 2, 2009 9:33:36 GMT -5
Ro0sh, you've left off the non-voters. Any reason why?
Here's the complete vote count...
Day One - 20 players Sister Coyote (5) - Almost Human, Kat!, Roosh, sinjin, sachertorte Pollux (3) - Special Ed, Pleonast, MHaye Inner Stickler (2) - KidVermicious, Paul sachertorte (1) - Pollux Paul (1) - NAF1138 No Vote (7) - Total Lost, BillMC, Nanook, storyteller, Natlaw, Sister Coyote, zlw
Day Two - 19 players Pleonast (10) - KidV, Roosh, Natlaw, Inner Stickler, NAF1138, Special Ed, Paul, Storyteller, sinjin, MHaye Roosh (2) - Pleonast, Kat! Paul (1) - Almost Human Kat! (1) - Pollux No Vote (4) - Total Lost, BillMC, Nanook, zlw Frozen (1) - sachertorte
Day Three - 18 players Pleonast (11) - Storyteller, BillMc, Almost Human, Paul, Roosh, MHaye, NAF1138, sinjin, Kat!, zlw, Natlaw zlw (1) - KidV Kat (1) - Pollux sinjin (1) - Total Lost No Vote (3) - Nanook, Inner Stickler, Special Ed Frozen (1) - Pleonast
Day Four - 15 players Nanook (6) - NAF1138, Paul, MHaye, Total Lost, Kat, Roosh NAF1138 (3) - Pleonast, Natlaw, Nanook MHaye (2) - Pollux, Inner Stickler Kat! (1) - KidVermicious No Vote (2) - storyteller, BillMc Frozen (1) - sinjin
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 2, 2009 10:23:03 GMT -5
Looking at the vote record, a couple things stand out.
1) BillMc has voted one Day out of four, and the one Day he did vote was on the overwhelming favorite. This is a classic way for scum to avoid responsibility and attention--he's avoided antagonizing another player by voting for them.
2) Ro0sh has always voted for the lynchee. That's shows he's always blowing with the prevailing wind. Another way for scum to avoid attention--he can claim he was voting with the "Town".
3) I find it highly suspicious that Ro0sh did not mention the non-voters, especially when one player stands out strongly in the non-voter category.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 2, 2009 12:43:49 GMT -5
<snip> Or perhaps I'm reading too much into the Canon- perhaps there are some ELE Members out there who are also Town? If so, would they like to come forwards and claim? That'd make them great investigative targets (in case if the scum try to play the "I'm ELE but Town" card. We could potentially even have 6 scum if ALL The ELE but Sach was scum (but that'd be REALLY tough to believe because right now, Pleonast does seem pretty damn unkillable....) <snip> So I'm not sure of what the scum numbers are, but I'm willing to say maybe 3 left is a good estimate? We still have the Godfather out there- so now we're going to have to start thinking about the People who investigate as Town with equal suspicion, but that doesn't mean we should start stringing them up right away. At this juncture if any ELE members were to claim it'd be helpful though to the Town (in the vein of Pleonast) . Bolding added and much snipped. 1) I think any claim by town toDay would be assinine and I'm quite surprised at you for suggesting it Roosh. 2) You seem pretty damn sure that there is a Godfather in this game Roosh and you and TUlla just love to point out that I could be him. FTR, I'm not, but I don't expect to be believed so I haven't bohtered to defend myself against the near constant smudges. PIS anyone? 3) Are you really suggesting up there that Pleo's claim has been helpful for town with the exception of keeping storyteller and his trigger finger occupied for two nights? 4) Leaving off the non-voters..hmmmmm My vote is on Roosh tomorrow unless IS comes up with a better candidate.
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Post by BillMc on Jun 2, 2009 12:50:15 GMT -5
Well looky here - mr unlynchable starts throwing stones Looking at the vote record, a couple things stand out. 1) BillMc has voted one Day out of four, and the one Day he did vote was on the overwhelming favorite. This is a classic way for scum to avoid responsibility and attention--he's avoided antagonizing another player by voting for them. Maybe you should check your facts before you start throwing stones. I wasn't evening playing Day 1 -- so of course I didn't vote. I subbed in towards the end of Day 2, I hadn't caught up by the time Day 2 ended. And as I also stated, I wouldn't be around for most of Day 4.
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Post by Natlaw on Jun 2, 2009 12:54:02 GMT -5
3) I find it highly suspicious that Ro0sh did not mention the non-voters, especially when one player stands out strongly in the non-voter category. Day One and Two it was MiteyMouse who didn't vote - not that that it means BillMc town, but it still worth noting. As for nitpicks: why do you assume Inner Stickler is right on Kat! but not on sinjin? I think it just an oversight on your part, not highly suspicious, but you got to be paranoid in mafia with godfathers and millers. I agree with MHaye that it is unlikey IS is scum trying to get a town killed as we're almost certainly not at LyLo. Scum bussing scum could be a possibility, though with two ELE members already dead that still seems risky. About the mass claim discussed Yesterday, if we lynch Kat! Today I don't see much value of doing it now. On the other hand it gives us something else to discuss and might be useful for IS's next investigation.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 2, 2009 13:09:43 GMT -5
I agree with MHaye that it is unlikey IS is scum trying to get a town killed as we're almost certainly not at LyLo. Scum bussing scum could be a possibility, though with two ELE members already dead that still seems risky. When you evaluate this possibility, remember that there was only one dead ELE member when the plan was decided on. Paul was still alive at that point.
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