Merestil Haye
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 4, 2009 12:20:00 GMT -5
We're one short of starting a countdown. I want to review stuff without the pressure of a countdown on me, so
Unvote: Kat!
For now.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 4, 2009 12:20:54 GMT -5
Kat! (5) - Inner Stickler, sinjin, NAF1138, Roosh, BillMc Pleonast (1) - Pollux
--FCOD
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 4, 2009 13:03:08 GMT -5
FCOD, the rules don't appear to have a minimum vote threshold for lynch. Is this correct?[/color]
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 4, 2009 13:08:14 GMT -5
FCOD, the rules don't appear to have a minimum vote threshold for lynch. Is this correct? That is correct. Whoever has the most votes will be lynched, even if it's one. --FCOD
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 4, 2009 13:26:11 GMT -5
Grassy ass.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 4, 2009 13:27:40 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what you're gonna have when I finish with you. --FCOD
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 4, 2009 14:09:18 GMT -5
Here's a different plan. How about me and NAF both vote for Kat, and everybody else doesn't vote. This way, her lynch is assured. NAF claimed vanilla town, and I'm as good as vanilla since nobody is ever going to 100% believe I'm a masonic character anyway and there's no way for me to prove it. So no pro-town powers are lost if both of us are telling the truth, and if NAF is lying and is scum, there's a 50% chance of getting scum if Kat is telling the truth. This also prevents the town from accidentally outing any power roles to the scum for killing. Plus, if there's a last-minute surge to save Kat you'll have some pretty obvious scum on your hands. I like this plan- especially since I'm wavering on both of you guys. You get ballsy points for thinking it up. Unfortunately, I don't see this plan as ever actually coming to fruition. It's too risky- as Kat gets a vote, and if scum are around and feeling cocky- they could try to tip the scales by just 2 votes (ala Nanook ). But on the whole, I Really do like that idea, and wish there was someway it could be done. Any thoughts from the others on it?
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 4, 2009 14:10:54 GMT -5
Unvote Kat As I can vote tomorrow or Friday hopefully too, so as to let someone who may not be here the chance to vote (if they go w/ Pleonast's plan). Or to allow NAF and Pollux to vote only if we go with PSS's Plan.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jun 4, 2009 14:13:28 GMT -5
Unvote: Kat
I guess that sounds like something worthwhile.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 4, 2009 14:15:31 GMT -5
Kat! (3) - sinjin, NAF1138, BillMc Pleonast (1) - Pollux
--FCOD
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 4, 2009 15:04:28 GMT -5
I'm very nervous about that. I'd like to see at least 4 voters on Kat, and I don't think IS should be one of them.
I'm willing to be one.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Jun 4, 2009 16:48:59 GMT -5
Unvote Pleonast Vote Kat
Just so everybody knows I'm not just putting up a charade.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jun 4, 2009 16:53:04 GMT -5
Hey guys, sorry for not being around more this Day. I have no good excuse, there were just other parts of the interent that were more interesting to me.
I have no problems putting myself on the Kat vote with Pollux, but I am worried about last minute scum manipulation with so few voters. Pleo, you say you need to die, I think you need to die, would you be ok with being on this wagon with us?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jun 4, 2009 17:11:20 GMT -5
He's been frozen and cannot vote. I know this because he voted for Kat way back on page 1 and never unvoted.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 4, 2009 17:20:18 GMT -5
Yes, sure. The Doctor has ABSOLUTELY nothing to fear by voting Kat. Right. I'm sure somebody else can agree with me that the logic of having everybody vote Kat is completely faulty. And if people actually think your idea is a good one, I'm going to shoot myself because it MAKES NO SENSE and we'll be in inverse Mafia-playing world, where everybody sucks at doing smart things. Individual Town players are safest when everyone is equally at risk, because exempting unconfirmed players means exempting potential scum. We could do some conditional probability calculations and see how confident we need to be in a claimed power role in order to make it better to exclude them, but it's simpler to have everyone carry the risk. And what's with you, and earlier NAF, denouncing everyone's Mafia playing? Others approaching things differently than you doesn't justify you insulting the all the other players. Besides exempting most or all scum from the potential blowback kill, it also gives scum a chance to manipulate who is at risk. Scum know how many scum are in the set of you and NAF. That is going to affect their stance and/or argument about the proposal. Eventually, that might be to our benefit, but right now it means we're less likely to choose the best option. If we require everyone to vote for Kat, we prevent the scum from manipulating who's at risk.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jun 4, 2009 17:45:46 GMT -5
First, crap. I am sorry, I forgot about that. My head just isn't in this game. I will get better, I owe you guys that at least. Sorry. It's totally dicky of me to pay this little attention. And what's with you, and earlier NAF, denouncing everyone's Mafia playing? Others approaching things differently than you doesn't justify you insulting the all the other players. I am really an genuinly sorry if you or anyone else was insulted Pleo. It wasn't meant as a personal slight against anyone, just a gasp of frustration. I figured you all knew I wasn't serious about that kinda stuff by now. Imagine there is a winking smilie after all the statements like that I make.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 4, 2009 21:42:38 GMT -5
Not too much is happening in this game at the moment and if we decide to go with the Pollux and NAF plan:
FCOH, is it possible to end the day when only Pollux and NAF are voting or do we all have to sit on our hands til Sunday waiting for scum to snipe? Can we vote to end the day then?
If not it's going to be a boring 4 days. How will I amuse myself? Hmmmmm.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 5, 2009 7:57:27 GMT -5
There is already a mechanism in the rules to begin a 12 hour countdown, I suggest you convince people to go that road if you don't want to wait.
--FCOD
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Post by BillMc on Jun 5, 2009 8:12:54 GMT -5
So we need to have the majority for someone to start the 12hr countdown - then remove votes assuming everyone is in agreement with the proposal
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 5, 2009 8:47:56 GMT -5
And what's with you, and earlier NAF, denouncing everyone's Mafia playing? Others approaching things differently than you doesn't justify you insulting the all the other players. I am really an genuinly sorry if you or anyone else was insulted Pleo. It wasn't meant as a personal slight against anyone, just a gasp of frustration. I figured you all knew I wasn't serious about that kinda stuff by now. Imagine there is a winking smilie after all the statements like that I make. I don't think anyone was offended (I never take anything said in these games personally). I'm more complaining about the lack of usefulness of those types of comments. They don't encourage productive play, as far as I'm concerned. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Per usual, I won't be on much over the weekend, but I don't have a vote ToDay anyway. Whatever plan you voters decide on, you better do it soon, before others fade out, too.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 5, 2009 12:28:37 GMT -5
Well I'm not feeling so good today and don't have the energy to rally the troops, so I'll just unvote and hope for the best.
Unvote:
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 5, 2009 12:29:32 GMT -5
Kat! (3) - NAF1138, BillMc, Pollux
--FCOD
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Post by sinjin on Jun 5, 2009 13:11:53 GMT -5
FCOH: Pollux whatever unvoted Pleo upthread and voted Kat
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Post by Natlaw on Jun 5, 2009 13:13:44 GMT -5
FCOD, shouldn't Pollux's vote be on Kat! (see reply#71)?
I made a mistake in my earlier post, off by a Day: Kat!, if claiming truthfully, was told to: -Day One vote Sister Coyote?! -Day Two kill sachertorte -Day Three kill zlw -Day Four vote Nanook -Day Five defected and free to vote?
I'm fine with just Pollux/NAF voting. If everyone votes we don't gain anything extra. Another idea is if half us votes Kat! and the rest could vote for their next one on their list. Make the half random? Which reminds me: anyone wants to make a random order for a mass claim if we're going to do that at one point.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 5, 2009 13:13:52 GMT -5
I don't know what you're talking about.
--FCOD
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 5, 2009 13:22:34 GMT -5
Here's a different plan. How about me and NAF both vote for Kat, and everybody else doesn't vote. This way, her lynch is assured. NAF claimed vanilla town, and I'm as good as vanilla since nobody is ever going to 100% believe I'm a masonic character anyway and there's no way for me to prove it. So no pro-town powers are lost if both of us are telling the truth, and if NAF is lying and is scum, there's a 50% chance of getting scum if Kat is telling the truth. This also prevents the town from accidentally outing any power roles to the scum for killing. Plus, if there's a last-minute surge to save Kat you'll have some pretty obvious scum on your hands. I could join you in the vote. It would make sense for me to do that. Vote Kat!
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Post by sinjin on Jun 5, 2009 13:32:06 GMT -5
Here's a different plan. How about me and NAF both vote for Kat, and everybody else doesn't vote. This way, her lynch is assured. NAF claimed vanilla town, and I'm as good as vanilla since nobody is ever going to 100% believe I'm a masonic character anyway and there's no way for me to prove it. So no pro-town powers are lost if both of us are telling the truth, and if NAF is lying and is scum, there's a 50% chance of getting scum if Kat is telling the truth. This also prevents the town from accidentally outing any power roles to the scum for killing. Plus, if there's a last-minute surge to save Kat you'll have some pretty obvious scum on your hands. I could join you in the vote. It would make sense for me to do that. Vote Kat!Really? vote Total Lost
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 5, 2009 13:43:04 GMT -5
You know purple votes don't count right?
--FCOD
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Post by NAF1138 on Jun 5, 2009 13:59:37 GMT -5
Here's a different plan. How about me and NAF both vote for Kat, and everybody else doesn't vote. This way, her lynch is assured. NAF claimed vanilla town, and I'm as good as vanilla since nobody is ever going to 100% believe I'm a masonic character anyway and there's no way for me to prove it. So no pro-town powers are lost if both of us are telling the truth, and if NAF is lying and is scum, there's a 50% chance of getting scum if Kat is telling the truth. This also prevents the town from accidentally outing any power roles to the scum for killing. Plus, if there's a last-minute surge to save Kat you'll have some pretty obvious scum on your hands. I could join you in the vote. It would make sense for me to do that. Vote Kat! Why would it make sense? Are you claiming something here?
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 5, 2009 14:33:37 GMT -5
Here's a different plan. How about me and NAF both vote for Kat, and everybody else doesn't vote. This way, her lynch is assured. NAF claimed vanilla town, and I'm as good as vanilla since nobody is ever going to 100% believe I'm a masonic character anyway and there's no way for me to prove it. So no pro-town powers are lost if both of us are telling the truth, and if NAF is lying and is scum, there's a 50% chance of getting scum if Kat is telling the truth. This also prevents the town from accidentally outing any power roles to the scum for killing. Plus, if there's a last-minute surge to save Kat you'll have some pretty obvious scum on your hands. I could join you in the vote. It would make sense for me to do that. Vote Kat!What does this mean?
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