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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 14:00:44 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 9, 2009 14:00:44 GMT -5
It would appear that yet again nobody has been killed. What is that about?
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Day Six will end on Sunday, June 14th at 3:00pm Eastern Time. With 11 alive, it will take 6 votes to start the countdown and 10 votes to insta-lynch.
--FCOD
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 14:11:22 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Jun 9, 2009 14:11:22 GMT -5
w00t! no night kill.
Boo, I got this again:
What was "Interesting" at the last minute last night Roosh?
vote Totallost
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 14:30:21 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2009 14:30:21 GMT -5
TotalLost's last post was interesting. As that wasn't what I thought she was going for with her soft claim.
I'll have to rethink my positions then. Though hopefully sticky can help us out on that end of things.... It'd be nice if it was made a bit easier. But I'm not holding my breath on that one.
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 14:31:42 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 9, 2009 14:31:42 GMT -5
"sticky"
Ha!
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 14:32:54 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2009 14:32:54 GMT -5
He is Stick Stickler, PI after all....
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 14:38:29 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jun 9, 2009 14:38:29 GMT -5
What was "Interesting" at the last minute last night Roosh? vote TotallostI'm all with the w00t no NK - but are you saying you're voting for me based on the post by RoOsh?
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 14:43:24 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Jun 9, 2009 14:43:24 GMT -5
So far, so good . Eleven players alive with most likely two ELE among them. <font style="font-size: 12px;"> Maybe instead of milk, I should have offered you frozen yogurt, Total Lost? Well I'm not too proud to accept that - thanks I didn't really want to probe at Night, but even if you cannot talk about it directly, this seems as close as a Penny claim without actually saying it. Assuming you watched the show of course. <font style="font-size: 12px;"> You dying could be pro-Town? If I was to die like this - I would not think it would be anti-town. I think Kat! need to be lynched and I would be perfect for that. However if town woke up one morning and thought I played like crap - then the fact that I really have a thing with shoes, could be a bit of a problem. Based on that I thought you made the soft-claim so Storyteller wouldn't kill you, which maybe would cause Dr. Horrible to join the Evil League of Evil. Or that you're recruitable and that was the reason you wanted to die. But this is all speculation on my part based on color and the hints you dropped, not actual role PM powers. Like Pleonast decided he might be recruitable because his (supposed) role mentions he is an ex-ELE member (but not that he is actually recruitable). So the question I was trying to asking at the end of Yesterday: Does your role PM mention you are recruitable or are you just guessing like Pleonast? You answered that 'you're nothing like Pleonast' but also mentioned twice now you're not sure you understood the question. If you are somehow involved with the recruitment-like-thing (and that is what you post restriction is about) then I don't think we need to know that (unless you think it helps town more than scum).
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 14:59:40 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Jun 9, 2009 14:59:40 GMT -5
What was "Interesting" at the last minute last night Roosh? vote Totallost[/color] I'm all with the w00t no NK - but are you saying you're voting for me based on the post by RoOsh? [/quote] Nope, I'm voting you because of your soft-claim and your anti-town power, no oops it's not anti-town at all I was mistaken stuff. Recall, I purple voted you on Day 5 because I wanted Kat lynched. Unfortunately my vote doesn't count again today. The Roosh question was just that.
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 15:26:48 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jun 9, 2009 15:26:48 GMT -5
I didn't really want to probe at Night, but even if you cannot talk about it directly, this seems as close as a Penny claim without actually saying it. Assuming you watched the show of course. I have made no such claim. I did see the show - and I'm not at all what you imply. Based on that I thought you made the soft-claim so Storyteller wouldn't kill you, which maybe would cause Dr. Horrible to join the Evil League of Evil. Or that you're recruitable and that was the reason you wanted to die. I've already said this over and over again - the soft claim was based on the fact that we talked about a mass-claim. But this is all speculation on my part based on color and the hints you dropped, not actual role PM powers. Like Pleonast decided he might be recruitable because his (supposed) role mentions he is an ex-ELE member (but not that he is actually recruitable). So the question I was trying to asking at the end of Yesterday: Does your role PM mention you are recruitable or are you just guessing like Pleonast? You answered that 'you're nothing like Pleonast' but also mentioned twice now you're not sure you understood the question. I have been told by the mod that no matter what happens in regards to the power I may/may not have - I'll stay the same alignment. If you are somehow involved with the recruitment-like-thing (and that is what you post restriction is about) then I don't think we need to know that (unless you think it helps town more than scum). My only concern was Town wasting a lot of time and efford on me. Seems like this has already happened. I'm sorry - but not much I can do to change that. I'll try to answer what ever you feel, you need to know.
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 15:33:20 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 9, 2009 15:33:20 GMT -5
Interesting.
This is the third Night with no Nightkill. Now Yesterday Kat desperately tried to convince us that her role was the explanation of these Nights with No Kills, but (a) FCOD identified Kat as "Vanilla ELE" and not as any sort of Mercenary, and (b) it's happened again after Kat is dead. The reasonable conclusion is that this claim was made out of whole cloth.
Yes, ELE claims go down easier if they have some elements of truth to hide the lie, but I think we can dismiss this one.
That leaves us with trying to find explanations for the Nightkill-less Nights. The obvious ones; the Doc protected the ELE's Nightkill target and nullified their action, or that the ELE targeted Pleonast and his Nightkill resistance saved him for a third time.
Or the ELE simply didn't put in a Nightkill. I've known that happen before. (In Alien Taste, for one.)
The end of the Day might shed light on these questions.
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 17:06:44 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Jun 9, 2009 17:06:44 GMT -5
Good morning! I did not find any scum last night. I investigated BillMC and found him to be Town.
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 18:29:36 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 9, 2009 18:29:36 GMT -5
I didn't really want to probe at Night, but even if you cannot talk about it directly, this seems as close as a Penny claim without actually saying it. Assuming you watched the show of course. This is what I was thinking back when she first claimed. I assumed she was claiming Penny with Storyteller being Capt. Hammer, and sparing herself a Vigging, and possibly also fear of a NK which could lead to an alignment shift of DoctorHaitch. However, her LAST post (Yes, Sinjin, the one I went "interesting" on) seems to imply this is NOT the case. Now I'm getting the feeling that she's trying to claim she's an ELE member who is Town Aligned, and is worried that in a mass claim she'll be seen as scummy just based on her Role Name (which would NOT be a problem if she was named Penny- as someone claiming penny, would NOT run into problems over her role name). So that's why I said interesting- because I thought she was soft-claiming Penny, but now I think she's claiming to be an ELE Member that isn't aligned as Scum though.... Hence my curiosity. More and more I'm of the mind that Penny is at the heart of the recruitment mechanism.... So she's an essential person to keep alive probably, and if she's out there, she shouldn't counterclaim or announce her presence at all if it's not Total Lost.But I am curious now about TL, because it does change how I've viewed her soft claiming to storyteller and such. Also yeah- I'm also curious Mhaye if we're going to have another DayKill.... I hope not, but time will tell...
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 22:57:14 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Jun 9, 2009 22:57:14 GMT -5
So for an easy, handy-dandy list....
1. NAF1138 - Claimed Vanilla Town 2. Total Lost - Claimed Shoes 8. Pollux - Claimed Groupie 17. Pleonast - Claimed Recruitable NonKillable Thingamajigger
19. Inner Stickler - Claimed Investigator 3. BillMc - Investigated by IS as town 4. sinjin - Investigated by IS as town
11. KidVermicious 16. MHaye 18. Natlaw 20. Roosh
---- It's my personal preference that whoever we lynch come from the last 4 people today. There's a chance NAF could be lying, and a chance sinjin or Bill is the godfather. But for now, I think it'd be best to concentrate on those four.
I'm gonna go 'head and
Vote Mhaye
His finger-wagging about the Kat! train in light of Kat turning up scum is especially troubling.
P.S. Is the site loading slow for anyone else? Everything else is working fine for me, but this site is wallowing in molasses or something.
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Day Six
Jun 9, 2009 23:40:18 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Jun 9, 2009 23:40:18 GMT -5
I feel like lots of people aren't playing at all anymore. KidV comes in with one liners occasionally. NAF hasn't really done anything since he suggested we all mass claim. Pleo's gone walkabout. MHaye is being the silent MHaye. And Totallost while she is fairly vocal with all the soft-claim bs still doesn't find anyone but me and Pleo suspicious.
I would like to lynch either NAF, Total or KidV today. With Total being number one on my hit parade.
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 0:57:55 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jun 10, 2009 0:57:55 GMT -5
I feel like lots of people aren't playing at all anymore. KidV comes in with one liners occasionally. NAF hasn't really done anything since he suggested we all mass claim. Pleo's gone walkabout. MHaye is being the silent MHaye. And Totallost while she is fairly vocal with all the soft-claim bs still doesn't find anyone but me and Pleo suspicious. I would like to lynch either NAF, Total or KidV today. With Total being number one on my hit parade. No surprise there And I never said you were the only ones I found suspicious. But I'll agree with you that his game does seem to have a lot of "lurkers".
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 2:08:53 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Jun 10, 2009 2:08:53 GMT -5
I feel like lots of people aren't playing at all anymore. KidV comes in with one liners occasionally. NAF hasn't really done anything since he suggested we all mass claim. Pleo's gone walkabout. MHaye is being the silent MHaye. And Totallost while she is fairly vocal with all the soft-claim bs still doesn't find anyone but me and Pleo suspicious. I would like to lynch either NAF, Total or KidV today. With Total being number one on my hit parade. No surprise there And I never said you were the only ones I found suspicious. But I'll agree with you that his game does seem to have a lot of "lurkers". So who do you find suspicious? Where have you indicated any suspicion at all? Show me a post. Advocate for a lynch.
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 5:15:03 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jun 10, 2009 5:15:03 GMT -5
So who do you find suspicious? Where have you indicated any suspicion at all? Show me a post. Advocate for a lynch. Are you talking about a post from this day advocating a lynch or in this game all together? Anyway I've already said I was suspicious of Pollux based on the fact that I see no reason to assume that Almost Human being town "confirms" him at all. I still think it would be brilliant if they were 1 Town and 1 Scum to NK the Town and use that as a way to "confirm" another groupie. I did also think the posts from MiteyMouse or should I say the lack of posts suspious. I just counted and in the game the post from MiteyMouse/BillMC is 17 all together. And that brings me to the subject of "lynch a lurker". Story pointed out when I tried that before, that lurker really don't say anything about the alignment. That being said - where there is everyone in this game? Seems like you, me, Natlaw, RoOsh and Pollux is doing all the talking And you don't even think I bring anything af value to the discussion. That leave the game being played by less than a 1/3 of players left...
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 5:46:52 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Jun 10, 2009 5:46:52 GMT -5
I did also think the posts from MiteyMouse or should I say the lack of posts suspious. I just counted and in the game the post from MiteyMouse/BillMC is 17 all together. I freely admit I'm not a mega verbose poster - and this game has me totally confused. So their is suspicion that Sinjin is a godfather figure, and now you are suggesting that I am one aswell?
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 6:18:10 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jun 10, 2009 6:18:10 GMT -5
I did also think the posts from MiteyMouse or should I say the lack of posts suspious. I just counted and in the game the post from MiteyMouse/BillMC is 17 all together. I freely admit I'm not a mega verbose poster - and this game has me totally confused. So their is suspicion that Sinjin is a godfather figure, and now you are suggesting that I am one aswell? I didn't say that. I was asked if I had commited to a vote and why. I pointed to the fact that I had indeed voted MiteyMouse for lurking. And that Story had made a really good point as to why that kind of voting really does have anything to do with finding scum. This is indeed a very frustrating game - but the fact that so many seems to "lurk"/be busy/what-ever is not making it any more easy.
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 10:26:21 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 10, 2009 10:26:21 GMT -5
I feel like lots of people aren't playing at all anymore. KidV comes in with one liners occasionally. NAF hasn't really done anything since he suggested we all mass claim. Sorry Sinj, I am finding this game very furstrating and it's hard for me to keep my interest up. I am trying though. I suggested the mass claim becuase it might shake some things up and get some new information out there that we don't currently have. It really did seem like a good idea to me at the time. I still think it is probably a better idea than doing nothing. We have a whole lot of lynches that have generated a whole lot of nothing, and a large lack of Night kills. So while we clearly seem to be winning (lots of dead scum vs. [relativly] not so many dead town) I also feel like the gains we have gotten were made on blind luck. IS lucked into finding Kat, Story lucked into killing Paul (though I like to think I had something to do with pushing Story in that direction) and we lucked into lynching SisterC. I don't have a handle on things at all, and instead of them becoming clearer as time goes by they are becoming more murky. I still think that a mass claim might be a good idea, especially if it means that the doc can say who he/she was protecting and maybe we can figure out what is going on with the missing NKs. But I don't think I am going to convince anyone to do that at this point. So sinj, since I actually do believe that you are town (based on the investigation and just generally knowing you) I will follow your lead in this one. Vote: Total Lost Maybe if we get some votes rolling I can start to see something.
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 10:27:27 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 10, 2009 10:27:27 GMT -5
MHaye (1) - Pollux Total Lost (1) - NAF1138
--FCOD
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 10:45:09 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 10, 2009 10:45:09 GMT -5
So for an easy, handy-dandy list.... 1. NAF1138 - Claimed Vanilla Town 2. Total Lost - Claimed Shoes 8. Pollux - Claimed Groupie 17. Pleonast - Claimed Recruitable NonKillable Thingamajigger 19. Inner Stickler - Claimed Investigator 3. BillMc - Investigated by IS as town 4. sinjin - Investigated by IS as town 11. KidVermicious 16. MHaye 18. Natlaw 20. Roosh ---- It's my personal preference that whoever we lynch come from the last 4 people today. There's a chance NAF could be lying, and a chance sinjin or Bill is the godfather. But for now, I think it'd be best to concentrate on those four. I'm gonna go 'head and Vote MhayeHis finger-wagging about the Kat! train in light of Kat turning up scum is especially troubling. P.S. Is the site loading slow for anyone else? Everything else is working fine for me, but this site is wallowing in molasses or something. I have some problems with the logic of this post. 1) Why not have me on the possible lynch list? I claimed vanilla and yeah I breadcrumbed my roll name but...so what? 2) Why but TL on said list? Same reason. 3) Other than me and her the only other person on the "Don't lynch toDay" list that we might concivably lynch toDay is...you. We aren't going to try to lynch Pleo again. Fool us twice shame on us, fool us three times and we all have to commit ritual suicide. We aren't going to lynch IS. Is there anyone at this point who doesn't believe that he is town? And sice he is 99.99999999999999% likely to be town we probably shouldn't lynch any of his investigations right yet. Again, there is a time and place to test those for Godfather status, but now when we are up several scum at just past midgame, isn't the time. So, I can't help but feel like the list is a way to divert the suspicion that was mounting against you Pollux. I am not a fan of this post at all.
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 11:47:56 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jun 10, 2009 11:47:56 GMT -5
MHaye (1) - Pollux Total Lost (1) - NAF1138 --FCOD Why did you not count Sinjin's vote on me?
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 12:25:13 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Jun 10, 2009 12:25:13 GMT -5
MHaye (1) - Pollux Total Lost (1) - NAF1138 --FCOD Why did you not count Sinjin's vote on me? Read my first post of the day.
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 12:27:33 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jun 10, 2009 12:27:33 GMT -5
Why did you not count Sinjin's vote on me? Read my first post of the day. Arrgghh - I forgot about that I was looking at the vote counts as well - and when I got to Day 4 I thought "wow - why didn't Sinjin vote??". At least I figured that one out on my own hand. Sorry about the that.
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 12:56:10 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Jun 10, 2009 12:56:10 GMT -5
Sorry Sinj, I am finding this game very furstrating and it's hard for me to keep my interest up. I am trying though. I suggested the mass claim becuase it might shake some things up and get some new information out there that we don't currently have. It really did seem like a good idea to me at the time. I still think it is probably a better idea than doing nothing. We have a whole lot of lynches that have generated a whole lot of nothing, and a large lack of Night kills. The underlined part is just not true. It was the lynch of Nanook that lead almost directly to vig of Paul and I'ld bet the investigation of Kat. As stated above I don't think it was luck at all. Hmm I thought Story's choice was based on the list I developed after Nanook's death maybe because of this: sinjin NAF can you point to where you were pushing Story to vig Paul? or anyone? I can't find it. WHAT??? Why in the world would you want to out the doc and get them to say who they are protecting just so you can figure out what's going on with the missing NK's. That's insane unless you are one of the ones whose NK's are going astray. Missing NK's are good for town. Unvote: TL Vote: NAF [/color]
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 13:19:05 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Jun 10, 2009 13:19:05 GMT -5
Now I'm getting the feeling that she's trying to claim she's an ELE member who is Town Aligned, and is worried that in a mass claim she'll be seen as scummy just based on her Role Name (which would NOT be a problem if she was named Penny- as someone claiming penny, would NOT run into problems over her role name). So that's why I said interesting- because I thought she was soft-claiming Penny, but now I think she's claiming to be an ELE Member that isn't aligned as Scum though.... I can't make head or tails of it anymore: -she soft-claimed Day Four 'humble, can't help anyone, likes frozen yogurt' and cannot be too proud or she loses something -can only help herself -but can do something good for town -but could be a bit anti-town and so getting killed by a crazy townie would be OK -she is not recruitable -she is not Penny I have been told by the mod that no matter what happens in regards to the power I may/may not have - I'll stay the same alignment. <snipped> I'll try to answer what ever you feel, you need to know. -And now she may/may not have a power, but details available on request ><
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 13:28:25 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 10, 2009 13:28:25 GMT -5
The underlined part is just not true. It was the lynch of Nanook that lead almost directly to vig of Paul and I'ld bet the investigation of Kat. How?
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 13:29:57 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 10, 2009 13:29:57 GMT -5
Fuck. Try it again. The underlined part is just not true. It was the lynch of Nanook that lead almost directly to vig of Paul and I'ld bet the investigation of Kat. How? First off, while Story may have used you list the list itself is bullshit Sinj. Any list of that many people is going to contain at least one scum by random chance. I don't know, me trying to get him lynched every. single. Day. of the game until he dies might have had somehting to do with it. Just a though. My reasoning was meta gamey, but it was sound. WHAT??? Why in the world would you want to out the doc and get them to say who they are protecting just so you can figure out what's going on with the missing NK's. That's insane unless you are one of the ones whose NK's are going astray. Missing NK's are good for town. [/quote] Sinj, I love you, you know this, so take this in that spirit. You're fucking nuts. It's one of the reasons why I am pretty sure you are town, but your insane with this. The Doc says who he has been protecting and then we know who the scum have tried to kill. If the scum are trying to kill someone, they are town. At this point there couldn't be more than one or two scum left. We can turn the doc into a cop this way. Again, it depends on who the doc protected. Anyway, I still think a mass claim is a good idea, but if you need to lynch me to convince you that I am not pulling this out of my ass, go for it. We have the lynches to burn. I'm bored anyway.
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Day Six
Jun 10, 2009 13:34:46 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jun 10, 2009 13:34:46 GMT -5
Now I'm getting the feeling that she's trying to claim she's an ELE member who is Town Aligned, and is worried that in a mass claim she'll be seen as scummy just based on her Role Name (which would NOT be a problem if she was named Penny- as someone claiming penny, would NOT run into problems over her role name). So that's why I said interesting- because I thought she was soft-claiming Penny, but now I think she's claiming to be an ELE Member that isn't aligned as Scum though.... I can't make head or tails of it anymore: -she soft-claimed Day Four 'humble, can't help anyone, likes frozen yogurt' and cannot be too proud or she loses something -can only help herself -but can do something good for town -but could be a bit anti-town and so getting killed by a crazy townie would be OK -she is not recruitable -she is not Penny I have been told by the mod that no matter what happens in regards to the power I may/may not have - I'll stay the same alignment. <snipped> I'll try to answer what ever you feel, you need to know. -And now she may/may not have a power, but details available on request >< *sigh* I really wish Hoopy Frood was in this game! And that's not because I want to vote for him!!!!
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