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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 22, 2009 8:23:13 GMT -5
Something the town was getting used to was waking up without finding anyone dead. ToDay was no exception.
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Day Eight will end on Saturday, June 27th at 3:00pm Eastern Time. With 9 alive, it will take 5 votes to start the countdown and 8 votes to insta-lynch.
--FCOD
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jun 22, 2009 9:13:11 GMT -5
I investigated KidV last night and he turned up town.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 22, 2009 10:23:30 GMT -5
This is getting to be a really strange game.
But nice to know about KidV (and once more having my scumbar proven wrong).
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 22, 2009 10:29:06 GMT -5
Town (as far as we know from Inner Stickler):
2. Total Lost 3. BillMc, replacing MiteyMouse 4. sinjin 11. KidVermicious 16. MHaye 19. Inner Stickler
Unknown: 8. Pollux 17. Pleonast 18. Natlaw
I still see no reason to think Pleonast is town and I'm still not comfortable with another try to lynch him right now. We havn't really seen anything that would suggest he can be lynched yet.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 22, 2009 11:36:37 GMT -5
I'm trying to catch up again. Let me see if I understand the current state of the game.
We have the claimed investigator and those declared by him to be Town: 19. Inner Stickler - "Anchorwoman", claimed investigator 2. Total Lost - no claim? 3. BillMc - no claim? 4. sinjin - no claim? 11. KidVermicious - "Johnny Snow" - blocker 16. MHaye - "Penny", protector
And everyone else's claims: 8. Pollux - "Groupie", pseudo-Mason 17. Pleonast - "Dead Bowie", unkillable 18. Natlaw - "Bait", self-redirector
I can't remember specific claims by Total, Bill, or sinjin. If I've missed them, I'm sure you'll let me know.
I'll put together a colored vote count next.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 22, 2009 11:44:56 GMT -5
Pleo, Sinjin has claimed Bait. Natlaw, iirc, claims to be the Man who Smells Like Poo.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 22, 2009 11:49:06 GMT -5
Ok this game is making me go I fully expected to be dead today. Random thoughts: I wish BillMc would come in today and at least give us a name claim. He's at least posted in the PB thread. Did IS ever investigate MHaye? Why not give the Pleo lynch another go? I don't think we're going to get a neon sign from heaven/mod-god saying he's been recruited. If not Pleo, then I guess it should be Pollux. Total Lost has kind of sort of claimed Scotsman.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 22, 2009 11:53:26 GMT -5
Day One - 20 players Sister Coyote (5) - Almost Human, Kat!, Roosh, sinjin, sachertorte Pollux (3) - Special Ed, Pleonast, MHaye Inner Stickler (2) - KidVermicious, Paul sachertorte (1) - Pollux Paul (1) - NAF1138 No Vote (7) - Total Lost, BillMC, Nanook, storyteller, Natlaw, Sister Coyote, zlw
Day Two - 19 players Pleonast (10) - KidV, Roosh, Natlaw, Inner Stickler, NAF1138, Special Ed, Paul, Storyteller, sinjin, MHaye Roosh (2) - Pleonast, Kat! Paul (1) - Almost Human Kat! (1) - Pollux No Vote (4) - Total Lost, BillMC, Nanook, zlw Frozen (1) - sachertorte
Day Three - 18 players Pleonast (11) - Storyteller, BillMc, Almost Human, Paul, Roosh, MHaye, NAF1138, sinjin, Kat!, zlw, Natlaw zlw (1) - KidV Kat (1) - Pollux sinjin (1) - Total Lost No Vote (3) - Nanook, Inner Stickler, Special Ed Frozen (1) - Pleonast
Day Four - 15 players Nanook (6) - NAF1138, Paul, MHaye, Total Lost, Kat, Roosh NAF1138 (3) - Pleonast, Natlaw, Nanook MHaye (2) - Pollux, Inner Stickler Kat! (1) - KidVermicious No Vote (2) - storyteller, BillMc Frozen (1) - sinjin
Day Five - 12 players Kat! (3) - NAF1138, Pollux, Total Lost No Vote - BillMc, sinjin, Kat, KidV, MHaye, Natlaw, Inner Stickler, Ro0sh Frozen (1) - Pleonast
Day Six - 11 players NAF1138 (6) - Roosh, Total Lost, Inner Stickler, KidV, Pollux, Natlaw Total Lost (4) - NAF1138, BillMc, MHaye, Pleonast Frozen (1) - sinjin No Vote (0)
Day Seven - 10 players Roosh (6) - Pollux, KidV, Pleonast, Inner Stickler, MHaye, Natlaw KidV (1) - Total Lost No Vote (3) - BillMc, sinjin, Ro0sh
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jun 22, 2009 11:57:47 GMT -5
Did IS ever investigate MHaye? No, I have not. I've investigated sinjin, storyteller, BillMC, Total, and KidV and found them town while Kat turned up ELE. And I'm the anchor man, thankyouverymuch.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 22, 2009 11:59:29 GMT -5
Did IS ever investigate MHaye? No, I have not. I've investigated sinjin, storyteller, BillMC, Total, and KidV and found them town while Kat turned up ELE. And I'm the anchor man, thankyouverymuch. Good point - I forgot! MHaye claimed to be Penny but was not investigated
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 22, 2009 12:01:08 GMT -5
And I'm the anchor man, thankyouverymuch. It is Anchor man, not Anchor lady! And that is a scientific fact! ::chuckle:: --FCOD
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 22, 2009 12:06:45 GMT -5
Ok, I figured I had missed stuff.
We have the claimed investigator and those declared by him to be Town: 19. Inner Stickler - "Anchorwoman", claimed investigator 2. Total Lost - scotsman 3. BillMc - no claim? 4. sinjin - "Bait", self-redirector 11. KidVermicious - "Johnny Snow" - blocker 16. MHaye - "Penny", protector
And everyone else's claims: 8. Pollux - "Groupie", pseudo-Mason 17. Pleonast - "Dead Bowie", unkillable 18. Natlaw - "Poo", vanilla?
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Looking over the vote counts, claims, and investigation results, I think the best course of action is lynching one of the "other" group ToDay, Stickler investigating another and then lynching the last one Tomorrow. My preference would be lynching Natlaw now, investigating Pollux ToNight, and trying to lynch me Tomorrow. vote Natlaw
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 22, 2009 12:08:59 GMT -5
I can't keep up with you guys.
We have the claimed investigator and those declared by him to be Town: 19. Inner Stickler - "Anchorman", claimed investigator 2. Total Lost - scotsman 3. BillMc - no claim? 4. sinjin - "Bait", self-redirector 11. KidVermicious - "Johnny Snow" - blocker
And everyone else's claims: 8. Pollux - "Groupie", pseudo-Mason 16. MHaye - "Penny", protector 17. Pleonast - "Dead Bowie", unkillable 18. Natlaw - "Poo", vanilla?
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I think MHaye, as a claimed protector, gets a pass as the last to be lynched in the last group.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 22, 2009 12:18:56 GMT -5
Any reason for that Natlaw vote Pleo. You do recall that he last minute switched his vote from TL to NAF and basically hammered the Godfather.
Now you could say that was a really gutsy gambit to gain town credit for Natlaw. But with an investigator still alive there was a good chance that if NAF survived Day 6 he would be investigated and come up town. That would be a much better plan don't ya think. Having the Godfather swimming with the innocent fishies?
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Post by Natlaw on Jun 22, 2009 13:35:48 GMT -5
First one thing from Yesterday: Oh and for all of you who keep saying Pollux was lying about groupie #3, recall that AlmostHuman's role PM also mentioned the mysterious groupie #3. I thought she didn't and am partially right: she did snip that part of her role PM, but her comments indicate that it was more than two ("Which is odd as I was expecting Pollux to know a groupie other than me"). Another reason I'm coming out now is that I'm groupie #2 and know about groupie #1 Pollux but not the name of any other groupie/s. Which is odd as I was expecting Pollux to know a groupie other than me so we'd have this whole daisy chain thing going on. Groupie #2 You are obsessed with Captain Hammer. You have signed photos, bits of his hair, and even his dry-cleaning bill! (For four sweater vests.) You'd do anything to get close to him. There are X of you, and you know that Groupie #1 is Pollux. (snipped to not show how many there are) Alignment: Town Win Condition: You win when all non-Town roles are dead. Powers: 1) Nothing except the fact that you know who Groupie #1 is: Pollux
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 22, 2009 13:47:16 GMT -5
D02.186, AH explicitly stated there were more than two Groupies.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 22, 2009 13:49:10 GMT -5
I borked the tag, so let me say that again. In post D02.186, AH explicitly stated there were more than two Groupies.
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Post by BillMc on Jun 22, 2009 13:53:47 GMT -5
I wish BillMc would come in today and at least give us a name claim. He's at least posted in the PB thread. Sorry - long weekend was a little more intense than I thought - fell asleep at the keyboard last night. Name claim - no name, just a role - Mayor. Looking over the vote counts, claims, and investigation results, I think the best course of action is lynching one of the "other" group ToDay, Stickler investigating another and then lynching the last one Tomorrow. My preference would be lynching Natlaw now, investigating Pollux ToNight, and trying to lynch me Tomorrow. vote Natlaw Pleo's comments really bug me -- Natlaw has come across very pro-town, and as Sinjin has already pointed out, he hammered NAF which wouldn't be a great scum move....unless there are multiple Godfathers - but that's unlikely - I hope - or we're back to square one. Then investigate Pollux and try lynch Pleo again tomorrow....why tomorrow - why not today? I could almost read this as Pleo being sure Pollux will turn up town and we'll waste an investigation. I think MHaye, as a claimed protector, gets a pass as the last to be lynched in the last group. First he puts MHaye in the confirmed town bucket, then suggests giving him a free pass. At best Pleo is still third party, at worst, he has been recruited by the scum, or indeed, he may have always been scum. So I'm kinda leaning towards giving a Pleo lynch another go.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 22, 2009 13:59:50 GMT -5
Total Lost can you answer this:
Are you groupie #3?
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Post by Natlaw on Jun 22, 2009 14:03:19 GMT -5
And everyone else's claims: 8. Pollux - "Groupie", pseudo-Mason 17. Pleonast - "Dead Bowie", unkillable 18. Natlaw - "Poo", vanilla? Sorry, if it wasn't clear but yes, I am vanilla so my lynch isn't a loss (though if we are at eight town and one scum, we need almost a mass extinction to get at lynch or lose). But you'll understand if I rather lynch the real remaining scum. I don't think there is a good reason to mistrust the investigations either, so I agree that the above list is the first place to look. The most likely reason not to I can think of would be a scum redirector/bus driver got an investigation swapped. That could be why NAF was so gun-ho to mass-claim / kill of the remaining unknowns, though possibly he just was trying to draw attention and an investigation.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 22, 2009 14:21:32 GMT -5
Any reason for that Natlaw vote Pleo. I have to choose among Pollux, MHaye, Pleonast, Natlaw. I'm not going to vote for myself. Or for a claimed protector while there's better options. Between Pollux and Natlaw, the Groupie claim is slightly more plausible than a vanilla claim. So I prefer to lynch Natlaw first. Pleo's comments really bug me -- Natlaw has come across very pro-town, and as Sinjin has already pointed out, he hammered NAF which wouldn't be a great scum move....unless there are multiple Godfathers - but that's unlikely - I hope - or we're back to square one. The trust you two are putting in Natlaw shows how useful a scum move it could be. So, you're agreeing with my basic plan of lynch-investigate-lynch? The rest is just detail (and doesn't really matter to me). I was following Total's list. Do you disagree that MHaye should be the last on the list of four to investigate/lynch? Or did you simply want to make another complaint about me? I don't care whether I'm lynched again earlier or later. It's not going to kill me. At worst case with 2 scum vs 7 Town, we have 2.5 mislynches before lynch or lose. And maybe more if the lack of Nightly kills continues. And trying but failing to lynch me costs us only half a mislynch, so it's not even a great penalty.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 22, 2009 14:32:37 GMT -5
Pleo; did you ever ask FCOH if the daykills were linked to your lynches?
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 22, 2009 15:08:34 GMT -5
Pleo; did you ever ask FCOH if the daykills were linked to your lynches? No. Why would I?
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Post by sinjin on Jun 22, 2009 15:32:02 GMT -5
Pleo; did you ever ask FCOH if the daykills were linked to your lynches? No. Why would I? Uh, maybe because the only days they happened were days when we lynched you. Did you miss all the discussion we had early in the game about that? Why don't you give it a try?
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Post by sinjin on Jun 22, 2009 15:34:33 GMT -5
Ya know what, I'm back to where I was before. I can't believe a town Pleo would not have asked that very important question.
Vote: Pleo
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 22, 2009 16:07:11 GMT -5
Total Lost can you answer this: Are you groupie #3? I'm not a groupie!!! And know nothing about the groupies!
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 22, 2009 16:12:05 GMT -5
I don't care whether I'm lynched again earlier or later. It's not going to kill me. At worst case with 2 scum vs 7 Town, we have 2.5 mislynches before lynch or lose. And maybe more if the lack of Nightly kills continues. And trying but failing to lynch me costs us only half a mislynch, so it's not even a great penalty. So you're now sure that you can never be lynched? And you still claim to be town? You still think this is a role that could be balanced within a game?
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 22, 2009 16:15:00 GMT -5
Pleo; did you ever ask FCOH if the daykills were linked to your lynches? No. Why would I? What if I asked you to? You do believe Inner stickler is Town, right? He said I'm town - now could you be so kind as to go and ask the mod how I can kill you? Please? Pretty please?
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 22, 2009 16:28:14 GMT -5
Uh, maybe because the only days they happened were days when we lynched you. Did you miss all the discussion we had early in the game about that? Why don't you give it a try? Ya know what, I'm back to where I was before. I can't believe a town Pleo would not have asked that very important question. I guess I missed the discussions when I started skipping posts about me. Being unkillable reduces my desire to read what others are saying about me. And I see no reason to ask the moderator. There's absolutely nothing in my role pm about deaths caused directly or not by me. Although the mod's interpretation of my role pm is borderline gastardly, I'm still confident he's not being an actual gastard. What if I asked you to? You do believe Inner stickler is Town, right? He said I'm town - now could you be so kind as to go and ask the mod how I can kill you? Please? Pretty please? Total, if you think you can kill me, post your pm and then maybe we can figure it out. Or, at least give us some guidance. I'm reasonably confident that Stickler is Town, and also those confirmed by her. But, similar to Natlaw's worry, I'm concerned that a scum has slipped into the "confirmed" pool.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 22, 2009 16:34:17 GMT -5
Pleo; did you ever ask FCOH if the daykills were linked to your lynches? No. Why would I? Why would you not?
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