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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 30, 2009 8:14:01 GMT -5
The town came to a decision quickly, aided by Inner Stickler's investigation results. Natlaw would be killed toDay, although he was dragged kicking and screaming. "No! I'm a government agent! Wait, I'm little Bad Pony! I'm Joss Whedon! AARRRGGHHH!" Even Penny wanted Natlaw dead. When the deed was done, everyone looked to see Natlaw's true identity. An ELE membership card and a bouquet of poisoned flowers revealed that he was in fact Fury Leika, a member of the ELE. "HUZZAH!" shouted the Town. BillMc, the Mayor, stood up. Looking like he was going to make a speech, he said, "gurk!" and fell over, dead, Fury Leika's last victim. "Oh well," said Pollux, "We can always elect a new Mayor. We won!" Natlaw (AKA Fury Leika), ELE Poisoner is dead. BillMc (AKA The Mayor), Town Governor is dead. TOWN WINS!Congratulations town! The spoiler boards can be found here: flyingcowofdoom.proboards.com/I had fun moderating, I hope everyone had fun playing! I welcome any feedback about the game's design. --FCOD
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Jun 30, 2009 8:15:31 GMT -5
Yay, Town!
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 30, 2009 8:31:38 GMT -5
Yay!
The spoiler board still seems to be hidden.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 30, 2009 8:37:49 GMT -5
Whoops. Should be fixed now.
--FCOD
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 30, 2009 8:40:44 GMT -5
Nope, still not showing up on the home page (the link you gave above).
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 30, 2009 8:42:20 GMT -5
Ok, NOW it's fixed.
--FCOD
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 30, 2009 9:20:00 GMT -5
Yah!! We won I had fun and can't wait to figure out what happened ;D
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 30, 2009 9:35:22 GMT -5
I'll provide a quick summary of what I thought were the most confusing things:
Pleonast was telling the truth. I have no idea why he thought he was recruitable. The only way he could die would be for the ELE to kill him.
The ELE had the option to delay their kill by using Natlaw's ability. They'd submit their kill at night but the player wouldn't die until the next Dusk. If the doctor had protected that person the poison wouldn't have worked.
The mechanism that some might consider to be recruitment was that if Penny (MHaye) had died, Dr. Horrible (Roosh) would have joined the ELE.
I'd be happy to answer any other questions here or at the spoilered forum.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 30, 2009 9:47:32 GMT -5
Ouch!!! Read the spoilers and feel so stupid
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Post by BillMc on Jun 30, 2009 10:04:45 GMT -5
Darn - and there was me thinking I actually had made it to the end of a game still alive!
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Post by special on Jun 30, 2009 10:07:51 GMT -5
Yay!
Now, who needs me to moisten them?
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Post by Natlaw on Jun 30, 2009 10:19:11 GMT -5
Congratulations town! Darn - and there was me thinking I actually had made it to the end of a game still alive! I hadn't realized that you just got killed in the other games, pure luck. Well, my last two kills where more in character (untrustworthy men!), since I figured ELE had lost with double protection on Inner Stickler. I wasn't that far off with my Whedon claim .
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 30, 2009 10:20:12 GMT -5
No you weren't, which was surprising.
My one regret? Not being able to write a scene where Jayne and Captain Hammer fought to the death.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 30, 2009 10:30:06 GMT -5
Pleonast was telling the truth. I have no idea why he thought he was recruitable. The only way he could die would be for the ELE to kill him. Cross-posting from the spoiled board: First, let me quote my PM: I still do not understand how I was expected to know I could not be lynched. It says I can't be killed by ... a list of roles. And the moderator explicitly said to ignore the roles mentioned in the color. So why would a lynch be a role? I didn't even consider the possibility that I could be lynched. Anyway, this is my only complaint about the game, otherwise good job, FlyingCow! If I'd know I couldn't be lynched from the beginning, I would've played the role completely differently. Probably would've been Night-killed early. paulwhoisaghost wrote: Why would I expect my PM to say anything about being recruited? The game intro said there was a type of recruitment, and being a former scum member meant I was a strong possibility. And why shouldn't I be? It's a closed setup, I do not expect to know everything pertinent to my role. I don't like closed setups. It's too hard to know what your optimal path is.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 30, 2009 10:33:12 GMT -5
Yes, in retrospect I realized that part of your PM wasn't clear enough, sorry!
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 30, 2009 11:02:22 GMT -5
Yay! Now, who needs me to moisten them? I believe you did talk about me in the spoilers
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Post by Natlaw on Jun 30, 2009 12:46:33 GMT -5
I don't like closed setups. It's too hard to know what your optimal path is. In my opinion you did end up playing the optimal path. Your claim Day One prevented five town deaths (though the last might have been me and Storyteller could have killed more scum or one of the lynches might have been scum). Together with the other claims that Day all town powers where almost never used anti-town. And with our strongman death there was no way to break Inner Stickler's protection. BTW IS, your investigations were fine - there really was no need to apologize each time you didn't find scum. So when we couldn't kill the investigator, why did I bus the godfather? IS was supposed to die that dusk as well. I somehow had convinced myself there was no doctor. I had a similar blind spot in SSBM where I thought four scum unlikely because then town had little chance to win. Read Day Six on the scum boards for full details (43 posts, most of them from me ). Another bad thing was not having a good claim ready for Sister Coyote (either doctor, cop or Penny). Though the last even if MHaye had counter claimed (without doctor) we would probably not have killed Penny, out of fair that it might lose us the recruit, assuming Penny had to be killed by town (lynch or vigilante). We had no idea how the recruitment thing would work. We did have some bad luck - killing the only vanilla and sinjin pulling and protecting herself, but as NAF called it should done something to break out of the uninvestigated box that was closing in on us.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 30, 2009 12:55:01 GMT -5
I don't feel like signing up for the spoiled thread so I'll post it here. The reason I put Natlaw in the likely town group was based on his bussing of NAF, the godfather on night 6. The vote went like this:
Natlaw jumped off townie TL to bus godfather NAF at the last minute. Total would have been lynched if Natlaw had done nothing. IS would have investigated NAF and tossed him in with the rest of us. I disagree that NAF would have been the first to get lynched after all the investigations were done. There was plenty of suspicion about me, BillMc, Pollux and kidV to go around.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 30, 2009 14:02:35 GMT -5
That was fun. Frustrating at times, but fun.
I still think the ELE would have been better off lynching Total in Day 6 rather than bussing NAF. But that's just me.
Time for a cuppa.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 30, 2009 14:07:15 GMT -5
That was fun. Frustrating at times, but fun. I still think the ELE would have been better off lynching Total in Day 6 rather than bussing NAF. But that's just me. Time for a cuppa. I would have come back Still playing like me - but I would have been there once more for you all to endure
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 30, 2009 14:10:29 GMT -5
That was fun. Frustrating at times, but fun. I still think the ELE would have been better off lynching Total in Day 6 rather than bussing NAF. But that's just me. Time for a cuppa. I would have come back Still playing like me - but I would have been there once more for you all to endure Yes, I know, having read the spoilers. However, that's not the point. They needed the numbers, NAF could have gotten a couple of Days grace and, since you were investigated N6, they'd have been no worse off when you did come back.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 30, 2009 14:13:30 GMT -5
LOL. I laugh because I couldn't decide if she had crossed the line of losing her ability. After all, it became known that she was a scotsman, which sorta matched the invalidation clause in her role. Then again, she didn't directly reveal the information.
That's why post restrictions suck. I don't think I'll use them again.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 30, 2009 14:19:53 GMT -5
Oh, and thanks for the game FCOH. I orginally thought I had a dumb role until I figured it out Night 3. DOH!
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 30, 2009 14:23:49 GMT -5
Yeah, sort of a doctor with a downside.
I had considered making it a one time "all actions toNight redirect to you" role, but I generally don't like "one time" roles that are active (meaning you have to choose to use the ability but you only get to use it once).
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 30, 2009 14:33:15 GMT -5
LOL. I laugh because I couldn't decide if she had crossed the line of losing her ability. After all, it became known that she was a scotsman, which sorta matched the invalidation clause in her role. Then again, she didn't directly reveal the information. That's why post restrictions suck. I don't think I'll use them again. --FCOD I'm sorry - I know how you feel!! When I was first mod on FB I had a scum politician. But I didn't want Town to be sure if it was scum/PFK/town stealing the votes. So I made a restriction saying the one with a vote stolen could not say so... Rugger played in that game and just make every other player saying that their vote was not stolen. I didn't now if I was pissed or amused ;D Restictions like that are really hard to keep up - especially when the player really want to work away around it...
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 30, 2009 14:46:13 GMT -5
Yeah there's always a way to get around restrictions. Unless it's one like Mr. Scummyboots, esq. had in the Gastard game, but those are obviously restrictions that are mostly for fun.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 30, 2009 14:50:14 GMT -5
Yeah there's always a way to get around restrictions. Unless it's one like Mr. Scummyboots, esq. had in the Gastard game, but those are obviously restrictions that are mostly for fun. --FCOD I did really try not to break your rules - but if a mass claim had come up I would have been in trouble just saying: I can't claim...
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Post by Pollux Oil on Jun 30, 2009 19:15:27 GMT -5
Yay, this is the first time I've been on the winning side on this board since the Batman game, in which I died on Day 2. I haven't taken a full look at everything yet, but I did look at Pleonast's role and all I can say is *shakes fist.* Yeah the PM should have said something about lynching specifically, but the recruitment came out of nowhere! AHHHHHHHH. Okay I'm done with that now.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 30, 2009 23:08:33 GMT -5
Yeah there's always a way to get around restrictions. Unless it's one like Mr. Scummyboots, esq. had in the Gastard game, but those are obviously restrictions that are mostly for fun. --FCOD Well, yeah, but when it's a Gastard game you're free to change the rules to close loopholes your players find. PRs are lots harder when you have to play straight. Nice game, thanks for the fun. Do not expect your profile to be safe the next time I mod tho...
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jul 1, 2009 0:14:16 GMT -5
Whoo! That was a ride. I don't ever want to be an investigator again. It was extremely frustrating for me to try to determine who the best investigative target each night was. Fun game though, FCOH. I had a blast.
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