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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 16:57:52 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Nov 18, 2009 16:57:52 GMT -5
After the deaths of the previous Night, it seemed that the survivors were in deep trouble. As the discussion started and the recriminations began, one person stood forward and pointed the finger.
He's one of them said the voice pointing at dirx.
Was he lying, was he telling the truth, how to tell, but in the end the group decided that the best and perhaps only thing to do was to go with it and hope. dirx denied the charge but after a brief while, seemed resigned to it.
To pass the time until he was taken, he prepared himself. A relaxing swim in what remained of the Space Liner's pool, a brief hologame recording the highest score it had seen and a fine meal of exquisite ingredients and taste.
The rest of the group muttered about his coolness and bravado but they would not be turned from their decision. When the time came, he marched to the booths and firmly strapped himself in while the others watched and waited.
The machine began its work again and the waiting began.
Brain pattern held.... Name: Jake Passenger Status: Infiltration Team Passenger Role: Weapons Expert Passenger Ability: ToughGuy
dirx has been placed into stasis
A cheer went up from the assembled crowd, they had found one of them. Perhaps only matched by the smile on the now frozen face of dirx.
Night 3 begins now. It will end on Friday 20th November at 16:00 GMT
Please note the change in time for Night end and make sure all your decisions are in by then.
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 17:09:38 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Nov 18, 2009 17:09:38 GMT -5
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 17:20:43 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Nov 18, 2009 17:20:43 GMT -5
Perhaps only matched by the smile on the now frozen face of dirx. Er...that doesn't sound good at all.
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 17:47:06 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 18, 2009 17:47:06 GMT -5
woot de fucking woot. got one.
as much as it pains me to say this, good job ed.
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 17:51:17 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 18, 2009 17:51:17 GMT -5
Perhaps only matched by the smile on the now frozen face of dirx. Er...that doesn't sound good at all. how so? we got one. and from what the cow says he was a strongman. that should be good since my experience is that means he can bust through protections to kill anyways. right? so getting him out of the way gives us some lattitude.
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 17:58:18 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 18, 2009 17:58:18 GMT -5
neta strongman/toughguy, whatever.
i'll buy. and i think i will have a full coke as opposed to one of those diet thingies.
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 18:14:37 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Nov 18, 2009 18:14:37 GMT -5
Because the fact that he's smiling makes me worry that something is going to come back to bite us on the butt.
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 18:22:54 GMT -5
Post by special on Nov 18, 2009 18:22:54 GMT -5
Because the fact that he's smiling makes me worry that something is going to come back to bite us on the butt. the only thing that I think might come back to bite us in the butt is Sister Coyote
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 18:26:57 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 18, 2009 18:26:57 GMT -5
meh, color is what color is. i'd be flabbergasted if our coroner comes back town. assuming we get a reveal tomorrow. that role makes no sense based on this morning. so i am doing a pseudo buff happy dance. we already got one third party and a scum for sure. one more in the a.m, i'm guessing. also, scum have to worry about what is still floating around.
sometimes simplest is best.
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 18:27:43 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 18, 2009 18:27:43 GMT -5
Because the fact that he's smiling makes me worry that something is going to come back to bite us on the butt. the only thing that I think might come back to bite us in the butt is Sister Coyote smart ass or do you know something else?
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 18:36:47 GMT -5
Post by special on Nov 18, 2009 18:36:47 GMT -5
the only thing that I think might come back to bite us in the butt is Sister Coyote smart ass or do you know something else? She's a Coyote and sometimes bites as fluff. Mine was strictly a fluff post ;D
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 18:52:24 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Nov 18, 2009 18:52:24 GMT -5
I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.
The space drive will be ours! GO SCUM!
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Night 3
Nov 18, 2009 21:03:07 GMT -5
Post by special on Nov 18, 2009 21:03:07 GMT -5
oh, and...not that anyone didn't believe me, but for the record.
told ya so
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 10:58:30 GMT -5
Post by Renata on Nov 19, 2009 10:58:30 GMT -5
So how was your first time, Dirx? Good for you? If anyone would be so kind as to put together a vote record for the first three Days, I would be ever so grateful. We have something to work with now, and it's not impossible we'll have even more in the morning.
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 11:24:21 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Nov 19, 2009 11:24:21 GMT -5
I keep a log of votes and vote changes, so I have the data to hand. Maybe I'll try later
Day 3 won't tell us much, as everyone piled on Dirx after Mr. SE's declaration. There had only been two votes placed when that happened. It'll be interesting to look back and see the rest though. Maybe I'll start tomorrow (I'm HARPing tonight).
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 11:53:36 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Nov 19, 2009 11:53:36 GMT -5
She's a Coyote and sometimes bites as fluff. Mine was strictly a fluff post ;D Bites Ed in the butt. With the mod's permission.
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 12:00:19 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Nov 19, 2009 12:00:19 GMT -5
Well that's good news about dirx, plus it means I can move Ed into the likely as town column, and that's even better. Also, won't someone do something about these ghosts, going around biting people, causing mischief and mayhem?
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 12:40:14 GMT -5
Post by Renata on Nov 19, 2009 12:40:14 GMT -5
Thanks, MHaye.
Skeezix, it's not like Ed had all that much choice. Somebody out there knows where that information originated, and would be objecting if Ed said anything false about it (or failed to say anything). If he lied, it'd be him *and* Dirx on the block, without even any guarantee of getting the investigator dead very soon. (Our doctor, if any, has not yet been revealed.) It'd be a bad move for Scum.
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 13:39:27 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Nov 19, 2009 13:39:27 GMT -5
Thanks, MHaye. Skeezix, it's not like Ed had all that much choice. Somebody out there knows where that information originated, and would be objecting if Ed said anything false about it (or failed to say anything). If he lied, it'd be him *and* Dirx on the block, without even any guarantee of getting the investigator dead very soon. (Our doctor, if any, has not yet been revealed.) It'd be a bad move for Scum. Yup. Nothing much to be said about Ed one way or the other on the basis of the information we have so far. I'm really looking forward to Dawn's reveals right now. The alignments of the uncertain players - particularly pedescribe - will tell us something useful. In the meanwhile, though - I'm going to be spotty for a few days. They shut off my cable (and thus my Internet) earlier than they should have (I'm moving in a few days), so I will have intermittent issues. We close on Tuesday, so it definitely won't last any longer than that.
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 13:53:59 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Nov 19, 2009 13:53:59 GMT -5
Point taken. I guess I hadn't thought out all the implications of him lying thoroughly enough.
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 15:07:34 GMT -5
Post by Renata on Nov 19, 2009 15:07:34 GMT -5
Let’s see what Dirx has been up to.
Day One 24: Hi everybody. 44: Dang, Ed, your joke votes made a mess of my tally. 48: Further joky exchange with Ed 185: Sorry not around more. Storyteller’s point about Chucara a good one, though not a given. Have to wait for vote count to see if it works the way it should; doesn’t explain votes carrying over into Night. Bill’s vote on Chucara a bad one, but not bad enough for a vote. Why did pedescribe single out Pleonast’s self-vote but not Ed’s or Guy’s? Can see argument about tone, but it’s weak. 190: Points out vote-count discrepancy, which CIAS fixes. 194: Seen politician in two previous games, Chucara’s ability could be very useful down the line (if Town). 222: Objects to Ed’s suggestion to move votes at end of Day so as to avoid unknown consequences from active Night votes. 310: (grr) Slimes me as possibly being Scum with Chucara based on my interpreting Chucara’s description of his ability correctly (the horror) – either that or I didn’t read Chucara’s post at all. Checks that sinjin/STEVE is a “she”. Won’t be around at Day end, needs to re-read before voting. 313: After Chucara clarifies his ability, now really thinks my earlier post was PIS (grr!). Our interaction suggests we’re not both Scum, but Scum have fought on Day One before, so votes Chucara based on Chucara’s ability being dangerous and mine being unknown.
Scummy opportunism aside, all there seems to be here of note are Dirx's interactions and references: two exchanges with Ed over minor matters (the second one looks like he may have been testing the waters for an opportunistic vote, akin to what he did to Chucara via my "PIS" later); a few with Chucara; and the one issue with me. He references Storyteller favorably, Bill unfavorably, and challenges pedescribe over his Pleonast vote. (Prior to the claims of the middle two.)
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 16:41:21 GMT -5
Post by shaggy on Nov 19, 2009 16:41:21 GMT -5
Hey everyone,
This is great we got an infiultrator.
Yeah i think the vote record alone may not be telling yesterday but vote record up till then combined with the intiial responces to the reveal of info may, so I am going to try and reread and cross link anything I find interesting tonight.
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 16:54:08 GMT -5
Post by Renata on Nov 19, 2009 16:54:08 GMT -5
Day Two 17: I had questioned MHaye’s nonchalance about SisC being dead as one of only two kills (the other being Bill); Dirx responds. This one really needs context. Here’s my post:
And here Dirx’s response:
This is a lot of words to say not very much. I can’t figure out from it what the Infiltration Team actually did do. The "Scum might have targeted a protected player" thing is almost certainly false, though, given Dirx’s role. (And though Dirx didn't say so, I don't think it's very likely that a hypothetical hockeyguy block on pedescribe could account for it, either -- pedescribe was under too much suspicion to be a likely scum choice to perform the NK. It's different if he flips PFK killer, of course; then that possibility has to be taken seriously.)
What does that leave? Dirx says he thinks Aliens are a mad bomber role. This is probably truth, if Aliens and Scum are not aligned, as Scum would have little incentive to downplay the threat from a competing non-Town party, and Mad Bombers are generally not considered very dangerous early in the game. However, I do think it quite possible that Scum and Aliens are aligned. Look at this:
Why “or something else”? Any “something else” would have as little incentive to kill SisC, on the face of it, as the Infiltration Team should. There's no need to postulate any "something else" unless you have reason to believe there actually is one, and I'm sort of going around in circles here, but I think it implies at least a little bit that Alien(s) and Infiltration team *are* aligned. Because otherwise what is Dirx thinking? Scum didn't kill Guy. Scum probably were not hindered by a protection or other hard-to-kill role. They almost certainly were not hampered by a roleblocking. So they must have killed SisC, which implies some shared goal with the Alien(s), at the very least. Dirx's last paragraph is pure smokescreen and doesn't explain anything -- SisC as potentially lying Town power? SISC?
If something comes up later to explain it differently, I'll shift gears, but that's where I'm at now.
Anyway, onward:
44: Defense of the previous Day’s vote against Chucara, might have changed vote if he’d been around to see my defense, might not have, due to Chucara’s erratic behavior.
86: Defense of his comment in 44 about Chucara’s “don’t lynch me” behavior maybe being reason enough to keep his vote where it was. (That idea was originally questioned by Nanook, defended by Pleonast; Dirx agreed with Pleonast.)
98: Complains about the timing of Natlaw’s half-claim, not enough time left in the Day to evaluate properly. Agrees with Shaggy this reads as a counterclaim, and that there’s no point he can see to a counterclaim of an unspecified investigator. And disappearing right afterward just makes him wonder what Natlaw is trying to prove.
134: (comes after Kat’s “don’t vote Boozy”) – provides vote count, notes Kat’s comment, votes Hockeyguy to break tie.
136: Sees Nanook had already voted Hockeyguy, so it’s actually now 5-3.
Given 17 and 98 I’m hopeful we (or somebody, anyway) got Scum with pedescribe, but I guess we’ll see tomorrow.
Also, it was hard to see it through my defensiveness last Night, but I'm sort of seeing where Storyteller is coming from as regards the hockeyguy bandwagon yesterday. In particular, Nanook-Dirx-Skeezix-Natlaw all within a few posts, the first three without any prior vote all Day ... blech.
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 18:29:56 GMT -5
Post by special on Nov 19, 2009 18:29:56 GMT -5
She's a Coyote and sometimes bites as fluff. Mine was strictly a fluff post ;D Bites Ed in the butt. With the mod's permission. GhostCoyotes don'e scare me
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 19:06:36 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 19, 2009 19:06:36 GMT -5
Thanks, MHaye. Skeezix, it's not like Ed had all that much choice. Somebody out there knows where that information originated, and would be objecting if Ed said anything false about it (or failed to say anything). If he lied, it'd be him *and* Dirx on the block, without even any guarantee of getting the investigator dead very soon. (Our doctor, if any, has not yet been revealed.) It'd be a bad move for Scum. sorry, not following you. i tend to agree that the information was generated by someone. but how in the world could they know that ed got it? and unless they are also getting the same information how would they even know if he was being truthful at all? in which case what would be the fucking point of involving ed?
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 19:49:54 GMT -5
Post by Renata on Nov 19, 2009 19:49:54 GMT -5
Maybe I'm assuming too much. I'm guessing the information was directed specifically at Ed, because otherwise the only option is randomness, and I don't like randomness. I suppose it is possible the generator of the information does not themselves receive it, but Ed can't possibly be sure that's the case, and that's the only thing that matters in accessing Ed's likeliness to be Scum.
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Night 3
Nov 19, 2009 20:20:28 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 19, 2009 20:20:28 GMT -5
Maybe I'm assuming too much. I'm guessing the information was directed specifically at Ed, because otherwise the only option is randomness, and I don't like randomness. I suppose it is possible the generator of the information does not themselves receive it, but Ed can't possibly be sure that's the case, and that's the only thing that matters in accessing Ed's likeliness to be Scum. but i am kind of agreeing. in disney(?) i got a message from winston/lucifer that he had investigated so and so and they were scum (or had visited him or something). i kind of got the impression from the way he described his role that he wouldn't know if delivery was successful or what the message was. course' he ended up dead that Night. and then i was fracking offed the next Night so i have no clue how in the world that was supposed to play out ( ed?). i mean i believed ed because why would he make that shit up. but the fact that he might or might have not answered and whatever the heck he would say would seem to be kind of unconfirmable by the delievery person. that's kind of the point i was trying to make.
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Night 3
Nov 20, 2009 8:27:56 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 20, 2009 8:27:56 GMT -5
[oog]good game last night skeezix. at least you can only get better. lol [/oog]
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Night 3
Nov 20, 2009 10:45:38 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Nov 20, 2009 10:45:38 GMT -5
Votes placed – a presentation. This is a review of the voting patterns of Day 1 and Day 2. The data is presented for review of patterns, and will be updated as more information becomes available at Dawn and Dusk. Players are colour-coded as follows. Town-alignedInfiltration Team alignedThird party alignedPFK alignedA player who's name appears in italic font is dead, but their alignment has not been revealed by the Moderators. A third party player is a player who wins with either the Town or Infiltration Team (or possibly one or more PFKs). A PFK player is a third-party player who, if they win, prevent the Town or Infiltration Team from winning. The tables show the final vote count, and the posts in which the votes were placed. Where a player moved their vote, this is recorded as an unvote to assist in reconciling the votes at any given time. The entry is shown struck through to denote the removal. The multiple votes in D01.043 by Special Ed are ignored, except for the final vote. Day 1. 8 votes. [/b][/color] [/s][/b][/color] redskeezix (D01.095) BillMc (+D01.109 -D01.169)Sinjin (D01.165) Chucara (D01.226 -D01.242 +D01.409)Nphase (D01.231) Dirx (D01.313)Natlaw (D01.315)Special Ed (D01.406) Storyteller (D01.407)[/ul][/ul] 3 votes. [/b] [/color][/b][/s] Pedescribe (D01.163)BillMc* (D01.169)Shaggy (+D01.202 -D01.274)Kat! (D01.229)[/ul] *Politician controlled vote Pedescribe[/s] Sister Coyote (D01.187)Natlaw (+D01.266 -D01.315)Peekercpa (+D01.289 -D01.300)Mhaye (D01.303)[/ul][/ul] 2 votes. [/s] Chucara (+D01.253 -D01.344 +D01.370)Shaggy (D01.274)[/ul] 1 vote. [/color][/b] [/color][/b][/ul] NatlawSinjin [/color][/b][/s] Peekercpa ( +D01.275 -D01.289 +D01.300)[/ul][/ul] 0 votes [/b][/color] [/color][/b][/s][/ul] Idle Thoughts [/b][/s] Idle Thoughts (+D01.050 -D01.059)[/ul] Pleonast [/s] Idle Thoughts (+D01.005 -D01.050)Pedescribe (+D01.064 -D01.163)[/ul] Special Ed [/s] Chucara (+D01.073 -D01.109)[/ul][/ul] Did not vote. [/color][/b][/ul] Day 2 to come.
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