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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 11, 2010 22:33:13 GMT -5
August 3 - 10:19PM
Strange day today. Long stretches of silence, punctuated by sudden bursts of intensity. The twitchy guy in the corner, the one who pushed Lucas Bishop into the Negative Zone, claims to be Bullseye. Have you read about Bullseye, faithful Reader? I read once where Bullseye killed a guy with a Twinkie. The snack cake. How would you like to be killed via Twinkie? I'm beginning to wonder if I'm going to find out.
I'm also beginning to wonder if Stark and the gang have the wrong idea here. At day's end, they shipped another one off to their inescapable life-sucking prison in another dimension, and I'm just starting to think maybe the vision that Stark has for the country isn't quite worth what it's causing. But what do I know? I'm just here to report the facts.
The person they settled on today was a woman, calling herself texcat, pretty, athletic but unassuming. She handled the accusations that came her way fairly calmly, considering the circumstances, but they didn't really give her much of a chance to discuss the situation. Once the decision was made, I circled around to get a look at her.
Stark led her to the prison door; they stood alone for a minute. He looked guarded. She was talking very rapidly, and none of us could quite make out what she was saying - but we got the gist of it, which was that she did not want to head through that door. Stark shook his head, and she looked at the ground for a minute.
When she looked up, her eyes were the color of a fresh lime. For a minute, I swear, she seemed to grow, that same greenish tint spreading through her skin. Stark took a step back.
But then, just like that, the moment passed. She looked out at the assembly, and - improbably - grinned. "You're all just lucky you got the lawyer. Cousin Bruce would have had... a different reaction." Then, without another word of argument, she stepped through the door, and was gone.
The news that followed her disappearance was not good news.
At least, Stark and his friends didn't think it was. Your humble narrator? I'm not so sure.
texcat, AKA She-Hulk - Pro-Town (Protective) has been lynched.
- Sally Floyd
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Night Two begins here, and will end either: (1) When I receive actions (or specific decision not to act) from all players with actions; or (2) in approximately 48 hours, or at 10:00PM EST on Wednesday, January 13.
Have fun!
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Post by special on Jan 11, 2010 22:49:24 GMT -5
Didn't get this in time for Day 2, as I was making Day 6 on SDMB:
so, peeker, this is your reasoning as I understand it.
1. texcat claimed a character who has green skin. This makes texcat more likely to be the green goblin (who is a jack of all trades either aligned with Town or 3rd party)
2. It was better for you to hammer than anyone else because you are just vanilla, so the Town can take it out on you, which is better than taking it out on someone else who may or may not be Town.
3. We should lynch you tomorrow if texcat is Town, despite the fact that you are claiming to be Town.
None of this even meets the minimal level of sense that I usually have for you. Something else is going on here. Maybe you gain an additional power by being the last vote on someone.
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Post by Drain Bead on Jan 11, 2010 22:59:44 GMT -5
Yeah. Didn't see that coming.
I'll be investigating Kat tonight, natch. To sum up sinjin, Domino could select a night target and that person's actions would be successful, even if targeted by a roleblocker or redirector.
One thing that just occurred to me about peeker. It's a no vanilla game, in which he's now vanilla. Not sure what to make of it.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 11, 2010 23:13:59 GMT -5
Well, if he posted his role PM completely and truthfully -- I'm inclined to believe the second, but not so much the first -- then his was effectively a one-shot power.
Do I believe Story would do that? Sure, why not?
Peek, I get that you were frustrated, although you're really letting your emotions run wild with you this game, but come on. You're saying that you claimed because you wanted to make it clear that there isn't "standard" recruitment, which is fine, but I don't necessarily believe that the way your alignment changed is the same as the way everyone will face "recruitment." And, as a Mod, I'd probably tell the leaders of both factions in a game with possible recruitment that they're unrecruitable -- even if there is no mechanism for them to be recruited.
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Post by Renata on Jan 12, 2010 5:58:16 GMT -5
Yeah. Didn't see that coming. I'll be investigating Kat tonight, natch. To sum up sinjin, Domino could select a night target and that person's actions would be successful, even if targeted by a roleblocker or redirector. One thing that just occurred to me about peeker. It's a no vanilla game, in which he's now vanilla. Not sure what to make of it. Absolutely nothing. Texcat had the potential to "go vanilla", and she was Town. If anything, Texcat's claim slightly increases the likelihood that peeker's is also accurate. That said, @ peeker: two Town hammers in a row, one on ZERO discussion? At this point, if my you're not now Town, you're just rubbing it in. If you are? I don't get it.
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Post by special on Jan 12, 2010 7:46:35 GMT -5
Maybe in peeker's role he must hammer if possible?
I think there were roles like that in Mushroom Kingdom.
Of course, that means peeker is lying...
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 12, 2010 10:23:18 GMT -5
Yeah, but the question is, what does hammering give him?
I don't buy his BS magic bag after Tom's on the end of Day Two, of course.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jan 12, 2010 12:43:18 GMT -5
I'm torn. A scum peeker could be hammering and counting on everyone thinking, "Scum would never be so blatant." And the magic bag claim makes it even worse. If he's telling the truth about his role, there's no reason no one should perform an action on him so either he's lying about his role or he's jerking us around because he thinks it's funny. Either way makes me not happy and if he doesn't get vigged tonight, I'm planning on voting him Tomorrow.
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Post by special on Jan 12, 2010 14:36:02 GMT -5
Yeah, but the question is, what does hammering give him? I have no idea. It's pure conjecture at this point.
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Post by Natlaw on Jan 12, 2010 14:53:59 GMT -5
DAY ONE VOTE COUNTluvbwfc (7): Sister Coyote [206], Hawkmod [266], drainbead [300], Inner Stickler [336], BillMC [381], Hal Briston [410], peekercpa [434] peekercpa (5): nphase [189], Merestil Haye [277], tomscud [287], Natlaw [356], luvbwfc [402] Special Ed (3): texcat [178], Pollux Oil [275], Special Ed [428] No vote (4): Kat!, redskeezix, Precambrian Mollusc, sinjinDAY TWO VOTE COUNTtexcat (5): Inner Stickler [28], redskeezix [52], Natlaw [146], Sister Coyote [147], peekercpa [156] peekercpa (2): BillMc [52], drainbead [64] Special Ed (2): texcat [4], Special Ed [153] drain bead (1): tomscud [132] No vote (6): Hawkmod, Hal Briston, nphase, Merestil Haye, Pollux Oil, Precambrian Mollusc Hal Briston's vote chart (only updated till Dawn D2 last time I checked). - - - - - Make a vote, go to bed and next thing you know the Day is over. I don't see how peeker's play can be town. Did he now claim miller or do I need to read 'niller' as vanilla?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 12, 2010 15:33:19 GMT -5
In peekspeak, "niller" means vanilla, as in "niller wafer" I believe.
But that's the only bit of peekspeak I can clarify.
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Post by Hal Briston on Jan 12, 2010 15:47:13 GMT -5
Correct -- this has been a very, very bad week or so, and it's translated into me being useless from a game perspective. One of the side effects was that I haven't done a damn thing with the chart (not the end of the world -- it's most useful in looking back at trends). I'll get it up to date and be more participatory Tomorrow. And FTR, if I had made it back on...Saturday? Sunday? Whatever day I said I'd post, I'd very likely have voted peeker. For whatever good that does now...
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Post by tomscud on Jan 12, 2010 21:23:11 GMT -5
I read his magic bag thing as straightforward mockery of me.
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Post by special on Jan 12, 2010 21:39:03 GMT -5
I read his magic bag thing as straightforward mockery of me. Did you just accuse peeker of being straightforward?
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jan 12, 2010 23:25:31 GMT -5
Sorry folks, got caught away from a network which is not blocked, access via blackberry was horrible sketchy as well (why didn't someone tell me T-mobiles Blackberry service sucks giant donky scrotums) Anyway , I am sure you have all missed my razor sharp insightful deductions.
It almost seams like Peeky want's to die, or he is having fun in a curious kind of way.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jan 13, 2010 0:13:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm wondering if he might be jester role but I'm intent on seeing him swing regardless. I think jesters are crap roles to give out anyway.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 13, 2010 0:27:20 GMT -5
Or he's peek. Or he's the GG himself, and is playing "crazy" to the hilt. Or something else.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Jan 13, 2010 0:49:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm wondering if he might be jester role but I'm intent on seeing him swing regardless. I think jesters are crap roles to give out anyway. I initially pondered that, but there are more surefire ways to get lynched than to hammer twice in a row. I can't see how this play makes sense for any role.
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jan 13, 2010 1:22:08 GMT -5
Peeks and Lvbwfc were tied on day one, so if peeks were scum, and given scum can talk at all times, it would make sense for peeky to hammer luvbwfc and run the risk of getting lynched for it day 2, at least it would be one for one for scum. If he were scum and going through day 2 - if he can drop the hammer it is just another gain for what might look like a no hope situation for a scummy peeky. Basically he keeps pushing the 'shurly scum would never do that envelope'.
For an exposed (ie in a precarious position) scum, dropping the hammer whenever possible may be an entirely valid strategy. On the flip side,in a game with recruitment (admittedly of a probable non standard persuasion if the mods past comments on recruitment count for anything) one may expect fewer scum at game onset, so scum are playing a risky game by pushing the scum wouldn't do that envelope.
Peeky has been pretty consistent on his opinion that recruitment is choice related (game tag line , mods prior history) , for some reason I have stuck in my head that he mentioned that his role PM gave him some insight on the recruitment process prior to his full role claim, difficult to tell through the half claims, magic boxing and what not that has been put out there, so time to go digging.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 13, 2010 8:47:41 GMT -5
A friendly reminder that the Night ends this evening at 10:00PM EST, give or take a few minutes. Please have your Night actions in by then, or they will be lost.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 13, 2010 10:33:33 GMT -5
Peeky has been pretty consistent on his opinion that recruitment is choice related (game tag line , mods prior history) , for some reason I have stuck in my head that he mentioned that his role PM gave him some insight on the recruitment process prior to his full role claim, difficult to tell through the half claims, magic boxing and what not that has been put out there, so time to go digging. Here is everything Peek had to say about recruitment starting on page 12 of Day One: and tom could you be any clearer about the whole recruitment part of your role. if you think it unwise i totally accept that. i just want to check against something. and this is not a fish fcs. i just want to see if congruence occurs. but i can and will check in at least twice a day. so if i get led to the gallows it would definitely be in town's best interest not to fucking lynch my ass before i can get some information out there. and no this is not magic baggy. i don't blow up or anything fucking weird. just something that i think will be fucking helpful. Not directly about recruitment, but following up on his question to tom scud I think the implication is pretty clear. this makes sense. since the title is "which side will you choose"? it also would seem to be more fundamentally in line with story's feelings about recruitment as it is typically defined. i guess the only observation i would make is in the last paragraph. you imply that if you die that there is some choice in whether your paired power can switch sides or not. but then you reference a "recruiter" that you assume is out there. that just seems a little discongruent. Regarding Luv's roleclaim. first, i see no way that a scum can be recruitable. that would be game breaking. second, i see no way that recruitment will be done in the normal way. third, there has to be recruitment, for this purpose i will choose to define that this is a choice on where to place allegiance. fourth, if 3 is correct there are a number of participants that may freely choose on which side to ally. fifth, that number can not be large, else all could choose scum in which case see 1. i honestly don't know the correct play but was merely begging the question and asking for input because from my vantage point knowing folks that could turn to the "dark side" might have some value. And then one that has nothing to do with recruitment, but something I find interesting given that Peek has dropped the hammer every time: well, i guess i could hammer but that would be shitty coming off of a long holiday. self preservation has never been my strong point, either. but in all seriousness a no bs question. if gg can switch sides (and the way it reads makes him sound like a 3rd party option) should we not as a matter of principle lynch that person? let's assume for the minute that all is true. if gg has the option, at some point of becoming not town. if he switches to 3rd party then town have another bad person to contend with while also reducing the town stock. shoot it's even worse if they were to have the option of going scum. then town could lose a player and scum gain a player. whoo, mas power. i mean, isn't that like a five point swing on the jsex way of computing points. additionally, who is to say that you could ever believe them anyways. yeh i was town and had a choice to become not town but decided to stay town. I don't know what to make of any of this, other than that peek's probably being honest about his "recruitment" not being standard. I really don't like the rest of his play, though. And it wouldn't have been that difficult to modify his role PM to indicate that he would take the same alignment as the person he killed when he really takes the opposite alignment. I just don't know.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 13, 2010 13:09:22 GMT -5
I killeded it?
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 13, 2010 18:17:36 GMT -5
The start of Day Three will be briefly delayed, as Total Lost will be subbing for Pollux Oil and I want to give her a chance to read her PM and acknowledge her entrance into the game before we proceed.
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Post by special on Jan 13, 2010 22:07:03 GMT -5
The start of Day Three will be briefly delayed, as Total Lost will be subbing for Pollux Oil and I want to give her a chance to read her PM and acknowledge her entrance into the game before we proceed. and since it's 4 AM in Denmark, I'm going to go lock myself in Total's bathroom with a goat until morning.
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Post by sinjin on Jan 13, 2010 22:20:52 GMT -5
The start of Day Three will be briefly delayed, as Total Lost will be subbing for Pollux Oil and I want to give her a chance to read her PM and acknowledge her entrance into the game before we proceed. and since it's 4 AM in Denmark, I'm going to go lock myself in Total's bathroom with a goat until morning. Hey, I thought it was you and me and the goat forever.
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Post by special on Jan 13, 2010 22:22:27 GMT -5
and since it's 4 AM in Denmark, I'm going to go lock myself in Total's bathroom with a goat until morning. Hey, I thought it was you and me and the goat forever. *opens the door and lets sinjin in*
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 14, 2010 3:27:10 GMT -5
The start of Day Three will be briefly delayed, as Total Lost will be subbing for Pollux Oil and I want to give her a chance to read her PM and acknowledge her entrance into the game before we proceed. and since it's 4 AM in Denmark, I'm going to go lock myself in Total's bathroom with a goat until morning. What a wonderful surprise finding you and the goat (and Sinjin) in my bathroom - I now remember why I love the world of mafia so much. Hi everyone - nice to see you and hello to all the "new" faces
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Post by Hal Briston on Jan 14, 2010 7:15:28 GMT -5
I'd swing by, but that whole goat thing...<shudder>...just not my scene.
By the by, vote chart is updated.
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