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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 16, 2010 12:13:56 GMT -5
August 3 - 10:19PM
They sent Bullseye up the metaphorical river today. Didn't take them long; there was enough time at the end for a clambake, except that no one has any clams and also, most of the people here want to kill the rest of them.
Watching the perfunctory and brutal trial of Bullseye - who by the way I'm not sorry to see locked up, because the man was a kook - made me even more doubtful about this Registration thing. Is that how the Act is going to be enforced, under Stark? Capricious decisions made by an oppressive majority, over-riding the need for even decent evidence of some kind of guilt? How is that going to turn out in the long run?
Probably something like this:
peekercpa, AKA Bullseye, who was indeed Pro-Town (Aggressive) has been lynched.
- Sally Floyd
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Night Three begins here, and will end either: (1) When I receive actions (or specific decision not to act) from all players with actions; or (2) in approximately 48 hours, or at 12:00PM EST on Monday, January 18.
Have fun!
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 16, 2010 12:28:07 GMT -5
cool. "kook". is that like, good or bad?
go town.
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Post by Drain Bead on Jan 16, 2010 14:13:10 GMT -5
Here's Ed:
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Post by Natlaw on Jan 17, 2010 5:44:15 GMT -5
DAY ONE VOTE COUNTluvbwfc (7): Sister Coyote [206], Hawkmod [266], drainbead [300], Inner Stickler [336], BillMC [381], Hal Briston [410], peekercpa [434] peekercpa (5): nphase [189], Merestil Haye [277], tomscud [287], Natlaw [356], luvbwfc [402] Special Ed (3): texcat [178], Pollux Oil [275], Special Ed [428] No vote (4): Kat!, redskeezix, Precambrian Mollusc, sinjinDAY TWO VOTE COUNTtexcat (5): Inner Stickler [28], redskeezix [52], Natlaw [146], Sister Coyote [147], peekercpa [156] peekercpa (2): BillMc [52], drainbead [64] Special Ed (2): texcat [4], Special Ed [153] drain bead (1): tomscud [132] No vote (6): Hawkmod, Hal Briston, nphase, Merestil Haye, Pollux Oil, Precambrian Mollusc DAY THREE VOTE COUNTpeekercpa (5): BillMc [1], tomscud [4], drainbead [5], nphase [38], Inner Stickler [39] Hal Briston (1): peekercpa [25] No vote (8): redskeezix, Natlaw, Sister Coyote, Hawkmod, Hal Briston, Merestil Haye, Precambrian Mollusc, Total Lost Hal Briston's vote chart
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Post by Natlaw on Jan 17, 2010 6:07:58 GMT -5
yaknow what i think happened. ed protected kat and i blew through that protection. so that's why he was confused about whether i was a scum strongman or was being truthful yesterDay. but i also believe that's why he ultimately unvoted my ass. because he concluded i wasn't lying. at least we had one perceptive townie. unfortunately scum eliminated that perceptivity (word?). I think it much more likely he unvoted you to vote himself to boost his power. He also did that Day One and I guess that is why he got killed. I don't see a reason why he would have protected Kat!. He might have protected Tom N2 so he himself was unprotected. Some other things from the votes: Inner Stickler has also voted to for the lynch (but no idea if that's tell either way), the no votes Day Two and Three don't mean much: one Day was cut short, the other Day all agreed with the lynch (except Total Lost who had just subbed in). The only real votes on which I can see a scum motivation are the Day One luvbwfc votes (to release the Green Goblin). The Day Two texcat votes would have been if peeker had been scum (to allow him get a hammer in and survive) but he wasn't . So the vote record don't tell me much at the moment.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 17, 2010 13:44:52 GMT -5
*sigh* this has got to be the saddest read I've ever done while subbing into a game! All over the place is a frustrated Peeker - asking people to post, to join in, to participate. Some people did and others had decent RL-reasons for not being around. But we're about to start Day 4 - and I'm still having a hard time remembering who is even in this game My summary have to be somewhat: Day 1: 10 pages taking about the hammer and TomS-role in the hammer 5 pages taling about not hammering/the Day is long - and then Peeker hammered Day 2: 4 pages talking about Peekers claim and Day 1 hammer 2 pages taling about RL-trouble being in the game/how slow the game moves and a bit of a ED/Nphrase-debacle... Then - bam - a hammer from Peeker Day 3: All thinks a Peeker-lynch is the best idea ever - and no one even trying to discuss ANYTHING else. No one going back to re-read the posts of Ed (now a proven town) or trying to analyze vote records. No one even bother with the fact that Peeker seems to be around - ready to answer questions while the rest of the players seem to have gone AWOL. I'm being ping BIG time by some of you - and I'll try to see if I can to it into words soon. But the most frustrating thing about this game IMO is that all vocal players now have been lynched/killed - leaving us to sit in silence and wait for someone bother with nothing happening to just hammer away. Come on - the only thing to "happen" in mafia isn't a hammering vote. There is more to mafia than just killing someone!!!!!!
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jan 17, 2010 15:01:59 GMT -5
Interesting. I didn't know that vocal players meant Peekercpa and Ed. If you actually look at the numbers there are still quite a few talkative players around. Peeker has a tendency to take control of the conversation and while I regret his death because he WAS town, I will enjoy Tomorrow being dominated not quite so much by him. Peeker always rubs me as scummy but his playstyle this game has come off as extremely condescending and irritating. I dislike being told I'm playing poorly because he can't articulate his thoughts in a cogent fashion. I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings peeker but it's how I feel.
Assuming a starting scum pool of 4, we now have a 25% chance of hitting scum with our lynch Tomorrow. Actually less because we're probably going to lose another townie with Dawn. I'm a little disappointed in that I was hoping we'd have a town vig who could do us the favor of eliminating low posters. I suspect that scum are hanging out in the lurkers pool and protown killers can help motivate them to post.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 17, 2010 15:15:18 GMT -5
I'm sorry if I came off saying everyone played horrible. I shouldn't have implied that. There're still vocal players with thing to say like drainbead, hawkmod and others.
But we've seen the hammering being able to take up SO much of the conversation and leading to peekers lynch. Yet, you hammer and don't even care to share why. I can see a town-motivation for that hammer (I read most knowing the alignment of Peeker - making my read different form the reading in real time) - but you didn't even bother to say why you did it. And that is not only you - people seem to vote in this game based on "others ahve voted and we need to hammer to end the Day". We have even had posts saying, players were waiting for other to make a case they could follow.
That is a bit more scummy to me, than to be the player to hammer.
I don't know why - but this game seems to be a lot of waiting for "something" to happen. Well, it's not going to happen - until we make it. That's my point - we need to HUNT scum - not wait for them to make s mistake...
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jan 17, 2010 15:24:37 GMT -5
I felt I had made it sufficiently clear that I wanted Peeker out of the game. With his apparent need to hammer without warning, he was too dangerous to let live.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 17, 2010 15:30:33 GMT -5
And so that was what this game was to you? Getting Peeker out?
Because I want to win the game - and one Day or one Lynch isn't my end-goal.
This is why I feel this game is weird - it's like so many seem to just want to "end the Day" or "get to the lynch" - but even if Peeker had been the Scum of Scum - we couldn't have won the game by his lynch. So why did people not talk Day 3 - what happened?
Why did you hammer before we could talk about so many other things? Why did you not feel the need to look for more scum?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jan 17, 2010 15:36:13 GMT -5
My goal going into this game was not to get rid of peeker but he made it pretty clear through Day 2 and 3 that he wasn't going to be helpful.
Because there aren't strategy strictures, a lynch doesn't mean all talking has to stop. We can have a quite fruitful discussion about stuff even after a lynch in this game. As to why people aren't talking, I couldn't tell you. What do you want to talk about? What strikes you as weird or scummy or whatever? Share with us, please. I feel as though everyone just says "going back to reread" and never returns to give an opinion.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jan 17, 2010 15:38:04 GMT -5
Also, I think about games in the aggregate and I wanted to lynch peeker not just because of this game but because I wanted to help create a precedent for other games. Anti-Town behavior must be punished and if that means some townies get caught in the cross fire, well sometimes you have to burn your hand to know not to touch the stove.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 17, 2010 15:46:03 GMT -5
We SO agree - lots of "going back" and not many "coming back" with anything.
I've read the Days thinking that:
1. I liked the case Ed made on Nphase - smelled like PIS big time, being so sure Peeker was right 2. Drainbead making a really good point with coming back with information being valid to Town 3. Sister Coyote trying to get things going - and trying to move the game forward 4. NBC was not really giving his best shot - RL maybe - but still... very quiet
The players in this game should do better than this - should posy more and should make more statements regarding what they think or see. It seems strange that we have so many players not really playing the game...
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 17, 2010 16:12:22 GMT -5
Also we seem to have both Day-actions and Night-actions in this game.
I've seen a lot of talking about the Night-actions and what they could indicate. But no one really addressed the Day-actions at all...
Coming from the Evil Dead-game modded by Story (the worst game-play ever by me) I might be a bit too sensitive about this. But there seem to be more going on during Day, that we really get to know. Not sure if that's good or bad - but it kind of makes my jumpy that no one really seems bothered about it...
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 18, 2010 10:28:36 GMT -5
One more thing to talk about, that doesn't seem to have been addressed in this game is a mass-claim. I really don't think I've been in a game before where a claim wasn't even talked about. At this point in the game we might get a bit of informations from a claim. I know scum might have cover-roles - but we might be able to piece together informations based on the fact that a lot of the roles seems to be connected. So if we get all the information out in the open, maybe we can figure out who is lying and how telling the truth.
And in a no-nilla game we don't really have to worry about outing the power roles...
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 18, 2010 11:18:00 GMT -5
Night will end in 45 minutes, give or take time enough to write out the Dawn color.
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