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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 18:25:39 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Sept 23, 2010 18:25:39 GMT -5
I'm sorry. But we seem to have be debating Dr. Raj's counterclaim all Day. Also it's late here and when tired I get a bit silly I was just about to answer my own question with "unless you're talking about Raj's claim..." I guess I wasn't thinking of that as a 'counter-claim' because he wasn't actually claiming the same role, only a similar one. And because I had reasoned that both claims are quite likely true. And I note that Zedd's counter-detective claim is similar to Raj's, in that he is claiming a role that is similar, but not identical, to Batman's.And I now suspect this is one weird game, with perhaps no vanilla roles. I'm absolutely certain the first half of that sentence, and am becoming increasingly suspicious that the second it true as well. Of course, it seems to me that a game with no Vanilla roles gives Scum a lot more places to hide. If you can't say, for example, "Wait a minute...you can't be a Doctor because we already have one of those", then it's going to be a lot harder to sniff out bogus claims. Even if we lynch "Doctor #1" and they flip Town, that no longer 'proves' "Doctor #2" was lying... Chitter Chitter.... Little Indian Girl: Actually, Batman never claimed how his power worked... just that he was the town cop. Zedd's claim can't be deemed weaker because we don't know how Batman's power works. He just claimed generic cop.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 18:29:10 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Sept 23, 2010 18:29:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry. But we seem to have be debating Dr. Raj's counterclaim all Day. Also it's late here and when tired I get a bit silly I was just about to answer my own question with "unless you're talking about Raj's claim..." I guess I wasn't thinking of that as a 'counter-claim' because he wasn't actually claiming the same role, only a similar one. And because I had reasoned that both claims are quite likely true. And I note that Zedd's counter-detective claim is similar to Raj's, in that he is claiming a role that is similar, but not identical, to Batman's.And I now suspect this is one weird game, with perhaps no vanilla roles. I'm absolutely certain the first half of that sentence, and am becoming increasingly suspicious that the second it true as well. Of course, it seems to me that a game with no Vanilla roles gives Scum a lot more places to hide. If you can't say, for example, "Wait a minute...you can't be a Doctor because we already have one of those", then it's going to be a lot harder to sniff out bogus claims. Even if we lynch "Doctor #1" and they flip Town, that no longer 'proves' "Doctor #2" was lying... Chitter Chitter.... Little Indian Girl: Actually, Batman never claimed how his power worked... just that he was the town cop. Zedd's claim can't be deemed weaker because we don't know how Batman's power works. He just claimed generic cop. Meeko also wanted to tell GIR that it is possible that there is a Day redirect, but that would only make sense if there were multiple Day powers. Otherwise the Day redirect power would only be useful if you knew who was casting Day votes, and even then, could only be used at the beginning of the Day (Day powers are instantaneous, Night powers resolve at Dawn) and only to change who the vote would go to.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 18:30:53 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Sept 23, 2010 18:30:53 GMT -5
On post restrictions: 1) Nordrom: do you have one? You do not seem to be posting in character of late. 2) Gir: You definitely claimed one and yet on this page you have posted substantial stuff without the Red eyes. 3) Fuck Opal. unvotevote Gir for general incomprehensible shit, violating her supposed post restriction and massive fluff bullshit. Chitter? Little Indian Girl: Where did GIR violate her post restriction?
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 18:33:54 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 23, 2010 18:33:54 GMT -5
Could be many Day powers, we dunno.
How raccoon know all Day powers in the game are instant?
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 18:38:00 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 23, 2010 18:38:00 GMT -5
[eyes glow red]If I can hear it in Gir's voice in my head, I post it normal.[/eyes glow red]
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 18:41:00 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 23, 2010 18:41:00 GMT -5
Oh, sweet merciful crap. I missed something. Batman claims Town cop? I counterclaim him immediately. I'm a Town detective, though weak. I read the clouds to determine if someone is a threat to Town or not OR I learn what their powers are. Unvote MarcelVote Batman<bleached> so you think there is no full powered town detec?
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 18:46:31 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Sept 23, 2010 18:46:31 GMT -5
Could be many Day powers, we dunno. How raccoon know all Day powers in the game are instant? Chitter? Little Indian Girl: huh? Not all Day powers I suppose. It is possible that Day powers could resolve at Dusk, but in the case of the unclaimed vote it doesn't resolve at dusk... it's present now, in the middle of the Day. So in order to redirect something that can resolve anytime during the Day, you'd have to do so before it resolves.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 18:47:02 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 23, 2010 18:47:02 GMT -5
Could be many Day powers, we dunno. How raccoon know all Day powers in the game are instant? i am glad that i am not the only paranoid mother fucker that picked up on this. yeh, meekowhosiactuallypaul how in the world did you reach this conclusion. and for the post restriction shit. i have none and refuse to even read any gd pm's from the mods at this point. i still want a tummy rub, however.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 18:52:15 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2010 18:52:15 GMT -5
[eyes glow red]If I can hear it in Gir's voice in my head, I post it normal.[/eyes glow red] How the hell does that post restriction work? I hear voices in my head all day long and yet don't have a post restriction. Please explain with your glowing red eyes exactly how your post restriction works.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 19:22:03 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 23, 2010 19:22:03 GMT -5
Must post like Gir. In Gir-like manner. Gir-ishly. Like the funny little robot!
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 19:23:55 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2010 19:23:55 GMT -5
Must post like Gir. In Gir-like manner. Gir-ishly. Like the funny little robot! So there's no requirement to post with red eyeballs when you want to be understood?
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 19:24:21 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 23, 2010 19:24:21 GMT -5
I was just about to answer my own question with "unless you're talking about Raj's claim..." I guess I wasn't thinking of that as a 'counter-claim' because he wasn't actually claiming the same role, only a similar one. And because I had reasoned that both claims are quite likely true. And I note that Zedd's counter-detective claim is similar to Raj's, in that he is claiming a role that is similar, but not identical, to Batman's.I'm absolutely certain the first half of that sentence, and am becoming increasingly suspicious that the second it true as well. Of course, it seems to me that a game with no Vanilla roles gives Scum a lot more places to hide. If you can't say, for example, "Wait a minute...you can't be a Doctor because we already have one of those", then it's going to be a lot harder to sniff out bogus claims. Even if we lynch "Doctor #1" and they flip Town, that no longer 'proves' "Doctor #2" was lying... Chitter Chitter.... Little Indian Girl: Actually, Batman never claimed how his power worked... just that he was the town cop. Zedd's claim can't be deemed weaker because we don't know how Batman's power works. He just claimed generic cop. I never said that Zedd's power was weaker than Batmen's. Zedd himself alluded to that point, saying "I'm a Town detective, though weak". All I said was that Zedd's claim was slightly different than Batman's (who simply claimed " town cop").
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 19:25:22 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 23, 2010 19:25:22 GMT -5
<rubs george's tummy>
Or is that going too far?
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 19:27:38 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 23, 2010 19:27:38 GMT -5
<rubs george's tummy> Or is that going too far? just keep your hands above the navel.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 19:37:26 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 23, 2010 19:37:26 GMT -5
Must post like Gir. In Gir-like manner. Gir-ishly. Like the funny little robot! So there's no requirement to post with red eyeballs when you want to be understood? Gir can sometimes make sense in normal mode for two, or even three sentences in a row! And that can happen almost as often as he goes into duty mode. Got any of them taquitos?
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 19:38:09 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 23, 2010 19:38:09 GMT -5
*pets the monkey's head*
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 19:50:14 GMT -5
Post by special on Sept 23, 2010 19:50:14 GMT -5
I don't want to vote for a claimed Townie, but my two likeliest candidates now are both claimed Townies. Since it's still 30 hours or so till deadline, I'll wait a while to decide who to Vote in Blue, but I don't want to be accused of non-participation, so: Tempted to Vote: BatmanTempted to Vote: Dr. Rajesh Ramayan KoothrappaliThis is a weird post - "I don't want to vote for a claimed Townie": That either weird ignorance of the fact most smart people claim that or actually knowledge of the fact that Batman/Rajesh are town shining through. Why (tempted to vote) Rajesh over Puft? I certainly wouldn't vote for Ed if I were certain he's Town, but the combined possibilities that he's SK or scum and the risk of Vig confusion (e.g. one Town Vig killing the other), make Ed seem a reasonable Lynch candidate. This one vigilante must go doesn't sit well with me. Rajesh claimed volunetary so can be vanilla if he choses to be. And why would he claim as SK - sure I did something similar (but that was around Day Four or Five close to lynch or lose and failed in the end. But I don't see an SK claiming now for town credit. Nor as scum just to get a vigilante killed. Vote Dr. StrangeloveWhich an one-off vote again so this doesn't help much, which means I can't go to bed yet .[/quote] I like this post. I've double checked. You're a man. (Hope you didn't mind) Unvote: Staypuft Vote: Dr Strangelove I still think Stay Puft might be a Serial Killer, however, but I think that might come to light at some point. I am puzzled at those who think I might be Scum counterclaiming an actual Vig. But hey, you're allowed to be idiots.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 19:50:41 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 23, 2010 19:50:41 GMT -5
ok, am i the only one getting a little creeped out on gir's simian attraction?
i mean i am an animal and will basically fuck it if it doesn't get the hell out of the way or if i can't eat it but sheesh.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 19:52:59 GMT -5
Post by special on Sept 23, 2010 19:52:59 GMT -5
Am I speaking in tongues?? This is the last time I'm going to try and explain this. I would appreciate knowing if I'm making sense to somebody out there. At the time of my first vote, I had no suspicions, no. Not much had happened, and I hate, hate Day 1 in general because I almost never have any kind of read on anyone that early in a game. Later on, Stay Puft claimed vig. Some time after that, Dexter shows up and votes for Stay Puft because he thinks compulsive vigs are too dangerous to let live. "A ha!" I say. "That sounds scummy!" So I change my vote to Dexter, happy that it's not based on something that seems substantial. Still later, we're rapidly approaching the deadline, and Stay Puft-- who has claimed vigilante--is still the leading lynch candidate. YOU, you damned monkey, spearheaded the campaign to try and get someone else lynched. After much hemming and hawing, I saw that despite efforts, Stay Puft was still going to get lynched. So I ultimately switched my vote in order to save him ( and you were urging me to do so), while at the same time making it clear that my target--who was never in danger of getting lynched because I was the only damn vote on him--was who I was primarily suspicious of, and would have kept my vote on had the Stay Puft mess not happened. If Stay Puft had claimed Doc or Cop, and I switched my vote to same him, would you still be questioning me? I feel that a vigilante is an important role, worth giving the benefit of the doubt for at least one Night, and if Marcel hadn't shot off his mass block, we would have data about Stay Puft's kill that we could use to help evaluate the truthfulness of his claim. I understand you. It would have been more helpful if you were this clear when you were actually casting the votes rather than now, a Day later. I mean, I can piece it together reading your posts, but it's not terribly clear.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:01:24 GMT -5
Post by special on Sept 23, 2010 20:01:24 GMT -5
My apologies for the coding error in Reply 376
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:02:34 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2010 20:02:34 GMT -5
So there's no requirement to post with red eyeballs when you want to be understood? Gir can sometimes make sense in normal mode for two, or even three sentences in a row! And that can happen almost as often as he goes into duty mode. Since when? This is what you posted at the beginning of the game: And then you posted this: So what exactly is your post restriction? You can only post coherent stuff with red eyes? You can only post coherent stuff with red eyes occasionally? You can also post coherent stuff without red eyes occasionally?
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:04:56 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Sept 23, 2010 20:04:56 GMT -5
@batman & Zed:
What kind of cops are you guys? Mostly this is directed at Zedd, from Bat's claim, I was assuming that he's a regular cop (learns alignment). Zedd has claimed "weak cop" which to me is a "weak claim". There is 4 common types of cops (excluding the ones that produce nonsense results)
1. Alignment Cop 2. Role Cop 3. Name Cop 4. Mad Bomber Cop (can check if someone has been tagged or not).
We can pretty much scratch #3 off the list since everyone's name is known, and #4 is uncommon, but I had that role in the mini version of this game so I cant rule it out. 1 isn't a weak cop. So We're pretty much left 2 or 4. So if you guys since you've felt the impetus to claim, could unmuddy the waters, that'd be fantastic.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:09:40 GMT -5
Post by special on Sept 23, 2010 20:09:40 GMT -5
Gir can sometimes make sense in normal mode for two, or even three sentences in a row! And that can happen almost as often as he goes into duty mode. Since when? This is what you posted at the beginning of the game: And then you posted this: So what exactly is your post restriction? You can only post coherent stuff with red eyes? You can only post coherent stuff with red eyes occasionally? You can also post coherent stuff without red eyes occasionally? I appreciate your manliness. I think she's saying that she has a posting restriction. Said posting restriction makes it difficult to post coherently. However, it doesn't prevent it completely. Red eyed mode seems to be a workaround that allows more coherence especially in posts that need more detail. So, basically, she has to post like Gir. And, occasionally, Gir got red eyes and was actually more Zim-like
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:10:39 GMT -5
Post by special on Sept 23, 2010 20:10:39 GMT -5
@batman & Zed: What kind of cops are you guys? Mostly this is directed at Zedd, from Bat's claim, I was assuming that he's a regular cop (learns alignment). Zedd has claimed "weak cop" which to me is a "weak claim". There is 4 common types of cops (excluding the ones that produce nonsense results) 1. Alignment Cop 2. Role Cop 3. Name Cop 4. Mad Bomber Cop (can check if someone has been tagged or not). We can pretty much scratch #3 off the list since everyone's name is known, and #4 is uncommon, but I had that role in the mini version of this game so I cant rule it out. 1 isn't a weak cop. So We're pretty much left 2 or 4. So if you guys since you've felt the impetus to claim, could unmuddy the waters, that'd be fantastic. unless he has a diminishing success rate like I do.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:11:18 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2010 20:11:18 GMT -5
Another question for Gir: Why have you been posting bullshit in multiple one and two sentence posts since the game began if you can actually post real commentary in the same space according to this post:
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:17:58 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Sept 23, 2010 20:17:58 GMT -5
Since when? This is what you posted at the beginning of the game: And then you posted this: So what exactly is your post restriction? You can only post coherent stuff with red eyes? You can only post coherent stuff with red eyes occasionally? You can also post coherent stuff without red eyes occasionally? I appreciate your manliness. I think she's saying that she has a posting restriction. Said posting restriction makes it difficult to post coherently. However, it doesn't prevent it completely. Red eyed mode seems to be a workaround that allows more coherence especially in posts that need more detail. So, basically, she has to post like Gir. And, occasionally, Gir got red eyes and was actually more Zim-like Yahyah, I got the post restriction thing. But sometimes she doesn't have to post like Gir, rather more frequently lately with apparently no sanctions. And she says she can post without the red eyes on short posts so why all the fluffy short posts? Sounds like bullshit (my favorite word in this game) to me.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:20:13 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Sept 23, 2010 20:20:13 GMT -5
@batman & Zed: What kind of cops are you guys? Mostly this is directed at Zedd, from Bat's claim, I was assuming that he's a regular cop (learns alignment). Zedd has claimed "weak cop" which to me is a "weak claim". There is 4 common types of cops (excluding the ones that produce nonsense results) 1. Alignment Cop 2. Role Cop 3. Name Cop 4. Mad Bomber Cop (can check if someone has been tagged or not). We can pretty much scratch #3 off the list since everyone's name is known, and #4 is uncommon, but I had that role in the mini version of this game so I cant rule it out. 1 isn't a weak cop. So We're pretty much left 2 or 4. So if you guys since you've felt the impetus to claim, could unmuddy the waters, that'd be fantastic. Do we need this info out there? Why the fishing?
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:25:16 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 23, 2010 20:25:16 GMT -5
So what exactly is your post restriction? You can only post coherent stuff with red eyes? You can only post coherent stuff with red eyes occasionally? You can also post coherent stuff without red eyes occasionally? Exactly: Post. Like. Gir. No specifics. All is chaos. Guess and wait. Also: Difficult is not impossible. Experiment one passed: Can use duty mode. How often? Guess and post and hope. Experiment two in process. No warnings yet. Save duty mode for what I gave up on saying.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:30:25 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Sept 23, 2010 20:30:25 GMT -5
<font style="font-size: 12px;"> <font style="font-size: 12px;">@batman & Zed: What kind of cops are you guys? Mostly this is directed at Zedd, from Bat's claim, I was assuming that he's a regular cop (learns alignment). Zedd has claimed "weak cop" which to me is a "weak claim". There is 4 common types of cops (excluding the ones that produce nonsense results) 1. Alignment Cop 2. Role Cop 3. Name Cop 4. Mad Bomber Cop (can check if someone has been tagged or not). We can pretty much scratch #3 off the list since everyone's name is known, and #4 is uncommon, but I had that role in the mini version of this game so I cant rule it out. 1 isn't a weak cop. So We're pretty much left 2 or 4. So if you guys since you've felt the impetus to claim, could unmuddy the waters, that'd be fantastic. Based on his claim, it seems like he either learns if the target is a threat to town (I assume that includes scum and any win-stealing parties), or he learns what powers the target possesses. So, sounds like a cross between a semi-weak #1, and a #2.
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Day 2
Sept 23, 2010 20:33:00 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Sept 23, 2010 20:33:00 GMT -5
Do we need this info out there? Why the fishing? the fishing? perhaps fishing with dynamite. There's not a whole lot of subtlety there now is there? Mostly because we have a "counterclaim" to a "claim" i'd like more information to effectively evaluate the claims. They've both claimed a power which I presume is similar, but in reality all we have is "town cop" and "town cop although weak" I can assume a lot, but at this point, i'd like more info.
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