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Post by storyteller0910 on Apr 22, 2012 9:13:27 GMT -5
They file in slowly and somberly, through the vast, steel doors and past the long disused admission desk. Quietly they note the motionless forms of those who fell at Arkham four years ago, still undisturbed from the previous conflict. They make their way to the maximum security area, into a small windowless room, and stand in a small circle, watching one another uneasily. Although no one has entered the Asylum proper in four years, someone has helpfully placed, at the center of the room, a perfectly tied noose slung over a beam up above. They close the door behind them, ready to resume their long trial.
Only six remained, because
scathach, who was TWO-FACE (Town Investigative), has been forcibly removed from the festivities
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Day Eight begins here, and will end on Thursday, April 26 at 5:00PM Eastern.
Hal's device remains unchanged, as votes cast at Night do not count.
Happy hunting!
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 22, 2012 10:51:06 GMT -5
Damn.
Ah well...let's try that again.
Vote BillMC Unvote BillMC Vote Sinjin Unvote Sinjin Vote Mahaloth Unvote Mahaloth Vote Hal Briston Unvote Hal Briston Vote Sbrown Unvote Sbrown
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Post by BillMc on Apr 22, 2012 11:09:20 GMT -5
Hmm, no role reveal for Scathath - not sure what to make of that. But since he flipped Town, the information he gave us from Astrals investigation should be considered valid, so with the lynching of Texcat, we have 3 non-town left. I doubt there are 3 scum, if there are, they already control the vote and little point of having a D8. So it's most likely 3-1-2 and we are at LYLO. [/color], lynched D1: Special Ed, BATMAN, Scum (Special) killed by PleonastN1: Astral Rejection, The Ratcatcher, Town (Investigative) killed by Sister CoyoteN1: Merestil Haye, The Penguin, Scum (Special) killed by TexcatN1: Guiri, Talia Al Ghul, Third-Party (Special) killed by ScumD2: Drain Bead, The Riddler, Third party (Investigative), lynched N2: Inner Stickler, ALEXEI ABRAMOVICI , Town (Alignment-Based) killed by ScumN2: Archangel, CALENDAR MAN, Town (Vanilla) killed by TexcatD3: Askthepizzaguy, CATWOMAN, Scum (Special), lynched N3: Rysto, HUGO STRANGE, Town (investigative) killed by TexcatN3: Silver Jan, SCARECROW, Town (Investigative) killed by ScumN3: Chronos, KILLER MOTH, Town (Vanilla) killed by Sister CoyoteD4: Sister Coyote, VICTOR ZSASZ, Town (Killing), lynched N4: Lightfoot, ROBIN, Town (Investigative) killed by Texcat or ScumN4: CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies, FIREFLY, Town (Protective) killed by Texcat or ScumD5: Idle Thoughts, HUNTRESS, Scum (Killing), lynched N5: Gnarlycharly, CARMINE FALCONE, Town (Special) killed by TexcatN5: Total Ullz, VIKTOR ABRAMOVICI, Town (Alignment Based killed by ScumD6: Meeko, KILLER CROC, Town (Special), lynched N6: Suburban Plankton, MR. FREEZE, Town (Protective/Special) killed by TexcatN6: Pollux Oil, LADY SHIVA, Town (Vanilla) killed by Sinjin N6: Nanook, HARLEY QUINN, Town (Special) killed by ScumD7: Texcat, RA'S AL GHUL, PFK (Killing), lynched D7: Peekercpa, REHYDRATED DEHYDRATED PIRATE HENCHMAN #3, Town (Alignment-based), modkilled N7: Scathach, TWO-FACE (Town) killed by Scum[/ul]All kills are accounted for, so it's unlikely the "1" is a killing role, so most likely we have a 3rd party. If we lynch the 3rd party then scum NK town, then toMorrow it's 2-2 and Lylo again. And looking at the voting record: Player | D1 | D2 | D3 | D4 | D5 | D6 | D7 | Claim | Scathach | No Vote | Drain | Hal | Cookies | NoVote | Gadarene | Texcat |
[/color][/td][td]Two Face, investigator of a coroner-ish type, investigated N? not scum by Lightfoot[/td][/tr] [tr][td] Sinjin[/td][td] Pleo(Ed)[/td][td] Drain[/td][td] ATPG[/td][td]No Vote[/td][td] Idle[/td][td] Pollux[/td][td] Texcat[/td][td]Deadshot, one shot unstoppable kill[/td][/tr] [tr][td] SBrOwn[/td][td] Pleo(Ed)[/td][td] Drain[/td][td] ATPG[/td][td] SisterC[/td][td] Idle[/td][td] Meeko[/td][td] Texcat[/td][td]claimed Anarky, devicer)[/td][/tr] [tr][td] Gadarene[/td][td] Pleo(Ed)[/td][td] Archangel[/td][td]No Vote[/td][td]No Vote[/td][td] Idle[/td][td] Meeko[/td][td] Texcat[/td][td]Jane Doe, two-shot protector[/td][/tr] [tr][td] BillMc[/td][td] Pleo(Ed)[/td] (Ed)[td] Archangel[/td][td] ATPG[/td][td] Idle[/td][td] Idle[/td][td]Gadarene[/td][td] Texcat[/td][td]Hush, vanilla[/td][/tr] [tr][td] Mahaloth[/td][td] Texcat[/td][td] Archangel[/td][td]Sinjin[/td][td] Cookies[/td][td] Idle[/td][td]Sinjin[/td][td] Texcat[/td][td]Solomon Grunday, scotsman-ish, recruited by Nanook[/td][/tr] [tr][td] Hal Briston [/td][td] Pleo(Ed)[/td][td] Archangel[/td][td]No Vote[/td][td] Lightfoot[/td][td] Idle[/td][td] Meeko[/td][td] Peeker[/td][td]Black Mask[/td][/tr] [/table] Everyone still alive except Mahaloth voted for Pleo, not sure what to make of that. Scathach didn't vote on D1. So... Sinjin SBrOwn Gadarene Mahaloth Hal Briston [/b] that much?[/quote] Not at all. I just like me better.[/quote] I'm wondering if both Ed and Hal were scum, and they had to make a choice who to lose? Ed was already under some suspicion from Pleo - so if Pleo lived, he probably would continue to prosecute a case on Ed. And then there is Hal's pre-occupation with trying to set of his device - votes on everyone except Gadarene and himself. No explanation of why he didn't protect Scathach? I'm in two mind whether Hal is scum or a third party trying to hide. I'd like to hear from the rest of you, but for now: Vote: Hal [/ul]
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 22, 2012 12:28:23 GMT -5
Hal enabled the killing joke for Pleo, and he voted against lynching Texcat. It appears he wanted additional kills. It doesn't "appear" that way, it is that way (at least in Pleo's case), and I made no secret of it. Unlike scum, town needs bodies to know which side folks are/were on in order to determine how the posts that made while alive should be judged. And then there is Hal's pre-occupation with trying to set of his device - votes on everyone except Gadarene and himself. No explanation of why he didn't protect Scathach? So it's suspicious if I don't try and get the info that setting it off give us, and I'm suspicious if I do try and set it off. Never mind that I already explained exactly how I got my list of perfectly meaningless (for multiple reasons) vote targets. And that the votes for toDay do include myself. But if it'll make you feel better, here, let's complete the set: Vote GadareneUnvote GadareneI'm in two mind whether Hal is scum or a third party trying to hide. Interesting that the only possibility you left out was that I'm a town doctor. No surprise, of course -- I mean, I assumed scum would be coming hard for me toDay, since they know I can't be nightkilled without letting my guard down -- whoops! Missed your opportunity last night! It was another night that I didn't self-protect, something I openly said I didn't do very much this game (just because I haven't been a very good guesser at who to protect don't mean I wasn't protecting). Anyway, like I said -- it was pretty damn clear coming into toDay that scum would be leading the bandwagon for me -- we almost certainly are at LyLo -- so Bill's tangle of misrepresentation gives me a pretty good guess here... Vote BillMc
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Post by BillMc on Apr 22, 2012 13:50:06 GMT -5
Hal enabled the killing joke for Pleo, and he voted against lynching Texcat. It appears he wanted additional kills. It doesn't "appear" that way, it is that way (at least in Pleo's case), and I made no secret of it. Unlike scum, town needs bodies to know which side folks are/were on in order to determine how the posts that made while alive should be judged. Yes, you made it clear you would rather have texcat alive today, and another townie dead in her place. Anyway, like I said -- it was pretty damn clear coming into toDay that scum would be leading the bandwagon for me -- we almost certainly are at LyLo -- so Bill's tangle of misrepresentation gives me a pretty good guess here... Vote BillMcNice OMGUS vote. You claim you didn't self protect - but you didn't protect the one investigator we had left? If you are town, that is a lousy play.
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Post by BillMc on Apr 22, 2012 13:56:42 GMT -5
It was another night that I didn't self-protect, something I openly said I didn't do very much this game (just because I haven't been a very good guesser at who to protect don't mean I wasn't protecting). Most nights were self-protecting, and when they weren't, I received no notice that any of my models successfully protected anyone. So you openly said you didn't self protect, yet when you posted your PM you said you self-protected on most nights. Sorry, that's a contradiction. I think you are lying.
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Post by scáthach on Apr 22, 2012 14:10:24 GMT -5
Spoilers please?
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 22, 2012 14:43:28 GMT -5
Nice OMGUS vote. You claim you didn't self protect - but you didn't protect the one investigator we had left? If you are town, that is a lousy play. Stop being disingenuous. OMGUS is voting for someone simply because they voted for you. I'm voting for you because you're playing this as if you know the only way to eliminate me is to lynch me -- a scum play. I won't argue that I've played a lousy game, but damn if I'm going to go down without a fight. So you openly said you didn't self protect, yet when you posted your PM you said you self-protected on most nights. Sorry, that's a contradiction. I think you are lying. Thank you -- your smear tactics are making this all the more convincing -- I never said I didn't self protect. In my claim, I said I self-protected most nights. In my very next post, I said: ... in checking back I find that I only self-protected once....thought it was more, but apparently not.
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Post by BillMc on Apr 22, 2012 16:13:46 GMT -5
Stop being disingenuous. OMGUS is voting for someone simply because they voted for you. I'm voting for you because you're playing this as if you know the only way to eliminate me is to lynch me -- a scum play. I won't argue that I've played a lousy game, but damn if I'm going to go down without a fight. Yeah, you've practically lurked your way through the whole game, and now that you are under some pressure you've suddenly upped your level of participation. So voting for you is a scum play So you say that the only way to eliminate you is to lynch you -- if that was he case, then you would have had to have self protected every night - you say you did, then said you didn't, which is it? You can't have self protected making you unkillable at night and protected others. You give the impression that Doc is a bullet proof claim - that the scum wouldn't try and kill a doc at night -- well in case you didn't notice, we already have two protective roles that were night killed. Don't you think that protecting Scathach would have been right play for a supposed Doc? Don't you think additional investigative information would have been useful today? It would seem not, you've already said you prefer bodies for information and have played a lousy game.
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Post by sinjin on Apr 22, 2012 17:01:55 GMT -5
Hal:
You didn't protect Total either, or Cookies, who did you protect last night?
Mahaloth, the scotsman? Me, now vanilla? Gadarene, claims vanilla now? SBrOwn the device player? or BillMC, claims vanilla. Which one of us did you protect? And yet you didn't think to protect the claimed investigator........You never told us who you protected in previous days so as to not give the scummies a trail to follow. How about letting us know now?
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Post by scáthach on Apr 23, 2012 5:12:12 GMT -5
Can't do tags from my phone, I can haz spoilerz?
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 23, 2012 8:53:40 GMT -5
You never told us who you protected in previous days so as to not give the scummies a trail to follow. How about letting us know now? What the hell...I was holding out for the endgame, and that seems to be where we are. The way I figure it, if I swing today, then the game is likely over anyway, so I might as well lay it out there. Time to come clean...here's the uncensored version of my role: Yeah, I had to put out some less-than truthful bits in order to hide my limitations. I protected one time, on night one: After that, I figured if I could keep myself out of the spotlight until an end-game night where I could protect myself and a clear townie, it would be a good move considering my limitations. I did have every intention of protecting cookies, but just flaked on when the deadline was -- when I went to send in my protection order, the night was already over. Definitely my biggest fuckup of the game. So, that's where we're at. I haven't had a single read worth a damn on anyone this game, but I'll certainly be sticking with BillMc today. If we don't hit scum we're probably done, and I know I make a juicy target for railroading. If I swing anyway and there does happen to be a tomorrow, then look there for your target. Ok, I'm in another crappy workweek, so I'm be back to having limited time to play. Of course, at this stage there's not as much to follow, so it likely won't be as bad as it had been.
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Post by BillMc on Apr 23, 2012 9:59:22 GMT -5
You now claim you only had three protections - and gadarene claimed to have two. Did you miss his claim? And with a claimed town vig, and mason claims, and supposedly limited protections, you chose to protect the acrostic chronos?? After that, I figured if I could keep myself out of the spotlight until an end-game night where I could protect myself and a clear townie, it would be a good move considering my limitations. You figured you'd lurk to the end game then self protect - but you said you didn't self protect - so you don't think we are at the end game? And you are still avoiding the question - why not Scathach?
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Post by Gadarene on Apr 23, 2012 11:47:43 GMT -5
I remain suspicious of Bill, but I really like his points about Hal. From my perspective, Bill is more likely to be telling the truth about his role than Hal is to be telling the truth about his...especially now that Hal is claiming the same sort of limited protector role that I have/had.
Here's how I see things: if there are two scum left, then Hal has to be one of them, and the other is most likely either Bill or SBrOwn. If there's one scum left, then it's almost certainly Hal. Deal with the scum, take care of their night kill (if my numbers are right, that's the only night kill left), and then we can turn to whatever other non-scum are out there, assuming that we're doing the math correctly on Scathach's investigation of Astral.
We can't risk lynching Mahaloth for obvious reasons, and I agree with Bill that sinjin is most likely Town given his claim and the subsequent extra kill.
Vote: Hal Briston[/color]
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Post by sinjin on Apr 23, 2012 17:18:46 GMT -5
For the amusement of all I got this message today:
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 24, 2012 10:14:23 GMT -5
Well, that's pretty much that. Scum managed to play this one very nicely down the stretch, and town hasn't made it too difficult on them. My gambit of trying to keep the protections in my back pocket until the last minute was a very, very bad move, and I'll apologize for that.
If, by some miracle, the sun comes up toMorrow...well, I have no idea. My first instinct would be to say to take a look at who is pulling my wagon, but who the hell knows. For all I know, SBrOwn has been using the "incredibly helpful townie" thing as an excellent scum cover (kudos, if that's the case -- well played), and is now sitting back laughing her ass off as town sets town swinging.
But, I know it's all but a done deal now. Scum played this exactly the way I would've had the roles been reversed, and there's not likely to be anyone more suspicious cropping up in the next 48 hours -- during which time I don't be around much at all, so...well, sorry again for the crappy play, congrats to the scum (or, perhaps, some 3rd party). Back into mafia retirement for me.
Damn...I really wanted to know what my device was going to do, too!
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Post by SBrOwn on Apr 24, 2012 11:01:43 GMT -5
Hey, I'm back guys, but I've got to do some things- mostly make up some class work and all. So I'm not going to have time just right now to analyze what's going on, but hopefully I'll have some time to dedicate to the game tomorrow. Just first read on the opening: The scathach kill seems like the obvious scum move to make in hindsight (knowing that she's Townie now). Ensure the investigator is out of the picture, but why didn't they chose to target one of the protective roles instead? I would have assumed the investigator was protected or something last night and probably tried to catch the doctor off guard. Anyways, i'll have to read the thread later tonight and give you my thoughts. -Steph
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Post by Mahaloth on Apr 24, 2012 13:41:14 GMT -5
Vote Hal
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Post by SBrOwn on Apr 24, 2012 21:44:22 GMT -5
If, by some miracle, the sun comes up toMorrow...well, I have no idea. My first instinct would be to say to take a look at who is pulling my wagon, but who the hell knows. For all I know, SBrOwn has been using the "incredibly helpful townie" thing as an excellent scum cover (kudos, if that's the case -- well played), and is now sitting back laughing her ass off as town sets town swinging. This doesn't read as a helpful townie post at all. Really? You accuse me of acting scummy now (coincidentally after Gadarene voices suspicion of me) for "sitting back"- when I already posted that I would be away for a time period and unable to respond on Sunday/Monday. That was a cheap shot, and it feels like Scum cornered and desperately trying to look at all possible other lynches for the Day. You're just throwing out smears right now, and not really providing any helpful evidence or data to the table. Also, I have been quite honest and upfront about my role and it's limitations- and my night actions have been visible every morning- you've seen all of my targets, and you've seen what has happened to each one of them, including myself. I am exactly who i said I was- and I know I'm not scum- because where would my role even fit into the scum picture- a nonlethal devicer who's devices seem only to provide entertainment for the peanut gallery does not seem like a known useful scum skill set. I could understand Pollux's hesitations and considerations that I might be a 3rd party role, but the idea of scum never really even came up during those discussions. Where was your voice then? Where was your thoughts when I was defending my actions and my behavior throughout the game? Only when you're facing the noose, AND after another player throws out a possible suspicion of me do you start to throw my name around as a possible target without providing any evidence to back it up? That's not helpful for us, and it's a cheap shot as well. It's more reminiscent of Idle's behavior, and that frustrates me to no end. If you're actually TOWN, then provide information and help out, don't just try to muddy the waters. And so with that reading over of the Day, I've gotta say: Vote Hal for being the scummiest player here right now. My 2nd two choices- Gadarene, and BillMC. If there's two scum, obviously at this point one of the other scum is voting for Hal. Bill reads as the most towniest for going after Hal with good reasoning and logic in his posts against Hal, while Hal comes off as more pinned down and cornered. And so I find myself agreeing with Bill's assessment. But at the same time, if there was two scum left, the perfect play for them would be to bus one and get a lot of townie credibility for the other one. That's why there's the paranoid part of my brain that's saying don't 100% trust BillMC. But if there's only one scum left- I believe it's Hal right now. And Gadarene, I'm suspicious of you only because if Hal comes up Town, then not only do we look really foolish, but the idea of two limited doctors- just as you have mentioned Hal as suspicious for being one- then that suspicion would fall onto your lap. But if there's 2 scum left and you're bussing each other. I have you as my next likely target, only because I feel Mahaloth is the Towniest right now, I get a slightly more townie vibe off Sinjin's abilities than your own. Though I am confused by Sinjin's events of the Day but that's for my next post.
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Post by SBrOwn on Apr 24, 2012 21:48:39 GMT -5
I don't get it, what's with the Blue urine? I know the device was leaking blue fluids when it was 'disabled' with the Batarang. Do you think the two are related? Is this an after effect from the device? Though the whole waking up feeling refreshed and cheerful does imply a not so sinister tone. And no one else has mentioned anything about it. But I'm still just confused by the Urine thing- Am I missing another reference or is this the possible work of a messenger (who's been considerably silent the last few Day/Nights- i figured maybe they've been taken care of)?
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Post by SBrOwn on Apr 24, 2012 21:50:18 GMT -5
I guess being practically town-confirmed does allow you the chance to be pithy with your remarks. But more information or thoughts are always nice, in my opinion. If you want to play your cards close though, I suppose that's your prerogative.
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 25, 2012 8:16:47 GMT -5
If you're actually TOWN, then provide information and help out, don't just try to muddy the waters. Sorry -- the only possible useful info I could provide would be based off of my device, but (I assume) that won't be going off after I swing. Not trying to muddy anything -- I just pointed out (without even seeing Gadarene's post) that I've seen the "most clearly helpful townie player" turn up as scum in the past. I've went this whole game with you on my personal "totally townie" list, but I could be wrong. Anyway, it's all moot now. I know I'm done, which all but guarantees a town loss. Nothing I can do about that now. So I'll tell you what -- how about you discuss amongst yourselves what the next move will be if there is a toMorrow, based on my coming up as " BLACK MASK (Town Protective)? I'll pop back in before the noose to give my final thoughts as to who's who (although aside from BillMc being scum, they'll likely not be worth a whole helluvalot).
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 26, 2012 15:56:48 GMT -5
Heh...when going back to analyze things, I wanted to take a quick look at something in the first Batman game. I wound up spending two hours rereading the first couple of days. Man that was a fun game! (I much prefer playing non-town roles in general, unless they're terribly interesting townie ones). Guess it holds true...you can't go home again. Ah well. Given the dead zone this place has become, I have a feeling the scum have this wrapped up and feel nothing else needs to be said to get the win. But on the off-chance that there's another shot (which would mean there are less than three scum), I would say BillMc is as close to a lock as you can get, and Gadarene in second place with SBrOwn as a dark horse candidate (and if that turns out to be the case, then it'll be one of the best "helpful scum" plays ever).
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 26, 2012 16:52:49 GMT -5
Grrr...been refreshing the board at every light on the way home to see if the game was over or not....and just remembered the time difference.
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Post by SBrOwn on Apr 26, 2012 17:42:25 GMT -5
Just give it up, Hal. You're not getting out of this one.
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Post by SBrOwn on Apr 26, 2012 17:43:29 GMT -5
You're just adding to the WiFOM (as i do admit, BillMC was my current #2 suspect after you).
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 26, 2012 18:07:08 GMT -5
Just give it up, Hal. You're not getting out of this one. Please don't take this as insulting or anything but...no shit. I'm well aware I'm swinging, I'm well aware I'm town, and I'm pretty much certain we (town) are fucked. Ah well...
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Post by SBrOwn on Apr 26, 2012 20:08:12 GMT -5
No offense taken. Story, did you get lost in NC again?
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