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Post by Pleonast on Oct 16, 2009 14:07:28 GMT -5
Ouch, down to one.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 16, 2009 14:14:54 GMT -5
... damn.
NAF, you have to carry our banner in the game thread. Consider carefully before commenting on my death - do you want to suggest that I was roleblocked by the Cabal last Night?
That will be washed away with the Dawn of Day 8 - if the game gets that far. But it's an option to explain why I did not die.
If I were you, I wouldn't back a lynch of DarkCookies, for tolerably obvious reasons - no-one knows whether the Cabal are still alive or not.
I'll work out the killing role implications sometime over the weekend.
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 16, 2009 14:26:04 GMT -5
Ai, one kill - I can't see both a vampire and the wolves targeting MHaye. Unless one of them didn't kill, that might mean there is no vampire (and the extra death(s) were secret powers). One death suggests lynch Cookies for the win, but town will want to make sure all Cabal are death. Why kill MHaye? There is another Wolf hidden perhaps. Good luck, NAF .
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 16, 2009 15:16:03 GMT -5
All I can say is, Idle is clearly obfuscating for all he's worth. His claim that Sister C knew he was Town is utter nonsense, a Witchdoctors work at Night. He's trying to make it impossible for him to be recruited. Were I still alive I'd be going for him on that.
And why the killers went for me instead of Sister Coyote I don't know. She (almost certainly) cannot enchant herself.
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 16, 2009 15:46:01 GMT -5
Fuck
I don't see the way out of this with only one of us alive toDay.
I know there has to be one, but I don't see it.
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 16, 2009 15:59:55 GMT -5
It makes no sense for Cookies to kill MHaye, unless she wants Nanook be able to take out a Vampire? Or really the last Wolf who wants to take Cabal down with her . I think you won't be lynched Today, most likely Idle under Cabal or second Wolf suspicion. MHaye will flip Cabal Tomorrow at Dawn, so it might be able to lynch Cookies then with the possibility of being at LyLo with two Wolves. Of course if there are two Wolves and it's not Idle, only Sister Coyote or hockeyguy makes sense, and they won't be lynched before NAF.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 16, 2009 16:28:20 GMT -5
Our chances depend on the Town mislynching once or twice.
Hang through Today, and Tomorrow I will be exposed as a Cabalist. At that point you might be able to sell a "Cabal is all dead" line and get people believing it, but you (above all) must not come out with it.
We could do this by not roleblocking Tonight. At least, not roleblocking Nanook. Nanook will make a kill (hopefully of smeone Townie) and admit it. This might make it more likely that people will buy all the Cabal being dead.
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 16, 2009 17:16:07 GMT -5
I have to live through toDay first.
I am not sure how I will manage that one right now.
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 16, 2009 17:36:11 GMT -5
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 16, 2009 20:08:47 GMT -5
Strangely that does make me feel better.
Large comforting letters. Who knew?
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 17, 2009 8:07:12 GMT -5
NAF, the problem is that if you say "I think we can afford one mislynch" you're setting yourselfup. The attitude should be "we can't afford even one mislynch right now."
We're going to lose if you don't get that lynch shifted, so at this point you've got nothing to lose.
Go out ina blaze of glory, man! Remember your oath! We swore an oath to lead the world to the One True Light. Not even Death Itself can stop us! Go forth and confusticate!
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 19, 2009 20:06:47 GMT -5
I have every intention of going down swinging.
I am running out of ammo though. Anyone got anything else I can throw out?
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 20, 2009 5:56:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure pushing hockeyguy is the right thing.
Bring up the kills Night Three, Four and Five: Night Three - two kills: 3.1) julie is killed by Vampire Kat! 3.2) vicar Idle is killed by a FCOD (vampire or secret power as DBI fails to detect) (but who would want to waste a power on an unknown? imo only recruit makes sense) 3.3) Cookies claims to have failed the Wolf kill of MHaye 3.4) Nanook did not attack
Night Four - three kills: 4.1) BillMc is killed 4.2) Sister Coyote by Cookies (check this) 4.3) DBI is killed 4.3) Nanook fails to kill MHaye (pm says target protected, not that he was blocked)
Night Five - two kills: 5.1) julie is killed 5.2) Vicar PCM is killed 5.3) Nanook fails to kill MHaye (blocked this time)
Night Six 6.1) Cookies kills MHaye 6.2) Nanook fails to kill MHaye (blocked again)
This means we had two killers N5 - Wolf + Vampire - but only one kill N6. This means FCoD was a vampire (supported by DBI) who killed a Vicar which means: a) the Vicar isn't a Vicar b) the Vicar was blocked (but then Cookies wasn't) c) the Vampire used a secret power (only recruit seems to make sense an Idle was an unknown Night Four)
If Idle is a recruited Vampire, then he choose not to kill last Night. Which means that Tomorrow we're down three, if Nanook doesn't kill - with 1 Town, 1 Vampire, 1 Wolf and 1 Town or Cabal (since you know you aren't Cabal and there could be only three Cabal total).
Whomever town lynches in that situation, they lose. So they need to kill a (possible) killer Today. Better keep Cookies as Cabal safeguard, so lynch Idle.
(pretty convoluted, but if waste a mislynch on you and Idle is a Vicar-turned-Vampire town loses!)
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 20, 2009 10:55:46 GMT -5
So we know that FCoD was a vampire yet?
Also I don't have any way of knowing that Idle wasn't the one blocked.
See, that's the problem with MHaye having gotten killed last Night. That was the perfect argument for him to make, but I think it's wholly inconsistent with what I have been doing, and will only end up in me getting lynched anyway.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 20, 2009 15:55:51 GMT -5
I realised thi afternoon what I should have done at the end of Yesterday.
Posted at 7:59 saying "Wolves kill SC, Any Vampires kill Pede or Nanook, I'll muzzle Nanook as long as I'm able."
Sorry guys.
FCoD was lynched Yesterday. We'll find out what he was at the end of Today.
There is definitely something hinky about Idle's death, because we know he cannot have been blocked to suppress his powers. So Idle is clearly lying.
It's a bit unfortunate that DarkCookies acted to elp Town last Night. Why SC wasn't on top of the hitlist I don't know. She can't be resurrected since she already has been.
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 21, 2009 13:19:50 GMT -5
Well, looks like we're done for . But we didn't too bad and I found the redirects really fun (an fitting for the Cabal mood) . I think what we could have done better was me not claiming Wolf but perhaps gambled on free mason claim (could have handshook with FCoD perhaps). Also FCoD lynch was bad (if he really is a Vampire) as I took the pressure of to lynch a killer. The town secret power of self-resurrect also had a role in that. If there is a sixth Wolf hidden, Wolves win I think. And I think a Vampire Idle might still have a shot. But most likely Town is heading for a win.
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