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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:26:01 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 17:26:01 GMT -5
Yes, I was looking back at Sister's claim, now I'm going to review the case against drain. hurry hurry, we are getting up against the clock. I'm hurrying. Even with me, do we have enough to swing from Sister to drain? Who else is around?
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:28:33 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 7, 2010 17:28:33 GMT -5
hurry hurry, we are getting up against the clock. I'm hurrying. Even with me, do we have enough to swing from Sister to drain? Who else is around? No... even with you it would be SisC: 15 Drain: 12 Someone voting for Sis would have to unvote and vote for Drain...
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:29:19 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 7, 2010 17:29:19 GMT -5
I realize there are less than 2 hours in the Day, and I see the case against drain. But I also see the case against Sister, especially with her most recent reasoning in voting: Well, although I'm not a mason, I'm looking kind of slantwise at Dirx at the moment. You're usually a low post-count poster, which I'm not one to comment about since I can swing either way. But toDay's posts have consisted of fluff about paul's roleclaim, then a whole bunch of back-and-forth with paul about his role (and, yeah, checking motivations makes sense for the game, but something about the interaction just feels off to me), and a question to Shaggy about his #1 vote candidate from yesterDay. And I don't even remember what you posted yesterDay. Vote: Dirx -- 3 points [/color] Also, Vote: Shaggy -- 2 points [/color] because the Bill/drainbead lack of clarity is just weird. and Vote: Meeko - 1 point [/color] for consistently giving no explanation for his reasons for voting. If it's all lynch the lurker, then say so. If it's because sinjin subbed in for NAF and you're operating on the theory that it's more likely a Scum would be subbed than modkilled, then for god's sake say that! Town can't move forward without motivations, as dirx said.[/quote] Did she ever explain the vote for dirx? [/quote] The first part of that post was her reasoning for voting Dirx....
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:30:06 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 7, 2010 17:30:06 GMT -5
"You're usually a low post-count poster, which I'm not one to comment about since I can swing either way. But toDay's posts have consisted of fluff about paul's roleclaim, then a whole bunch of back-and-forth with paul about his role (and, yeah, checking motivations makes sense for the game, but something about the interaction just feels off to me), and a question to Shaggy about his #1 vote candidate from yesterDay.
And I don't even remember what you posted yesterDay"
That was her reasoning.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:30:19 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 7, 2010 17:30:19 GMT -5
we are going to potentially lynch a fucking town dick. now is she full of crap, probably. but my god drain has to be scum. crud, ed vote your conscience if nothing else. shoot just vote who you think most likely to be scum. if that's where it's at then whatever.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:32:44 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 17:32:44 GMT -5
I realize there are less than 2 hours in the Day, and I see the case against drain. But I also see the case against Sister, especially with her most recent reasoning in voting: Did she ever explain the vote for dirx? The first part of that post was her reasoning for voting Dirx.... That was it? really? a 3 point lurking vote on someone who is generally a low poster?
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:33:36 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 17:33:36 GMT -5
we are going to potentially lynch a fucking town dick. now is she full of crap, probably. but my god drain has to be scum. crud, ed vote your conscience if nothing else. shoot just vote who you think most likely to be scum. if that's where it's at then whatever. peeker, I'm here. I'm looking things over. I'm going to vote.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:35:31 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Mar 7, 2010 17:35:31 GMT -5
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:37:15 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Mar 7, 2010 17:37:15 GMT -5
So why was fluidruid killed?
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:38:05 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Mar 7, 2010 17:38:05 GMT -5
NETA: my cote change ties it up, according to my counts. I can change back, if we prefer. Neither case is that strong to me, but since Sis claimed cop, and the whole "Town"-not-in-the-PM thing is no longer a solid case, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt for right now, at least.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:38:46 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 17:38:46 GMT -5
OK, peeker, do you have something better than
which actually kinda smells a little bit of OMGUS. granted, I got that from searching through your posts for drains name.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:40:02 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 17:40:02 GMT -5
Damn, these are weak cases.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:40:44 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Mar 7, 2010 17:40:44 GMT -5
So why was fluidruid killed? fluid was a lover (dies when loved person dies).
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:45:43 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 17:45:43 GMT -5
alright,
Vote: vote drainbead
If one of you masons wins because of this, I'll be pissed
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:47:33 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 17:47:33 GMT -5
especially since there was no chance to come in and claim
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:50:09 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Mar 7, 2010 17:50:09 GMT -5
I don't want to offend you Pede, but I take issue with the fact that Town role PMs weren't standardized. It gives scum a huge advantage by making false claims incredibly easy to pull off. One could argue that, since false claims are necessary in a game with many (or possibly all) power roles, not standardizing them simply levels the playing field. And one could argue that as soon as scum saw the first town claim they would be able to replicate a town role PM anyway. And one could argue that if you wanted to level the playing field you could have given scum a town role PM. And one could argue that you could have leveled the playing field by stating up front that role pms weren't standardized. And one could argue that you set town up on purpose.
Have you determined what team is going to win yet? One could argue you might want to let us in on it so we don't waste our time.
What one could not argue is that I do regret subbing in for NAF. Unvote: sisterC
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:53:31 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 7, 2010 17:53:31 GMT -5
alright, Vote: vote drainbead [/color] If one of you masons wins because of this, I'll be pissed[/quote] shoot you give us too much credit, thank you very much. we may be wrong but at least we are trying.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:54:56 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Mar 7, 2010 17:54:56 GMT -5
Honest question: do you guys really think non-standardized role PMs are that unbalanced? To me, all it means is that we have to rely on more traditional methods of sleuthing, rather than technical nitpicks.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 17:59:49 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Mar 7, 2010 17:59:49 GMT -5
Dirx: I don't. Non standarized is a way to prevent handshaking. Something that we were indirectly doing. We just got bit since there was so many that had a similar format. It's one of those we should a known better situations and that this was going to jump out and bite us. Better to get it out of the way early, I suppose.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:00:48 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 18:00:48 GMT -5
for clarity
Unvote: drainbead
Vote: drainbead with a 1st place, 3 point vote
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:03:10 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 18:03:10 GMT -5
Dirx: I don't. Non standarized is a way to prevent handshaking. Something that we were indirectly doing. We just got bit since there was so many that had a similar format. It's one of those we should a known better situations and that this was going to jump out and bite us. Better to get it out of the way early, I suppose. Though, in this case, with the role claim being Paranoid Doc/Avenger and no real mention of the Avenger power was suspicious enough
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:05:32 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Mar 7, 2010 18:05:32 GMT -5
Also another thing to think about, which hasn't been mentioned yet is that pede has used death miller/cop as a role before in screamers. I don't know if that game was billed as a bastard game though. (I wonder if it would be gastardly to have a death-godfather?)
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:07:33 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Mar 7, 2010 18:07:33 GMT -5
Holy shit, that's one hell of a swing. I'm a Town Roleblocker, which is why I did not believe Inner Stickler. I breadcrumbed that role earlier toDay. A LOT. Last night I blocked Meeko, thinking he might try to kill. Tonight I will do the same, if I live, and I will block Meeko on every killing Night from here on out, provided there's not an obvious reason to let him go.
Here's my PM:
Unvote: Inner Stickler Vote: 3 point vote for Sister Coyote
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:08:56 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 18:08:56 GMT -5
Who the hell is Balloon fighter?
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:10:38 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 7, 2010 18:10:38 GMT -5
Honest question: do you guys really think non-standardized role PMs are that unbalanced? To me, all it means is that we have to rely on more traditional methods of sleuthing, rather than technical nitpicks. I don't think it's unbalanced if we know about it ahead of time. But when we aren't told that they aren't standardized we assume they are. Which is a huge boon for scum because when a couple of people from Town claim and their PMs look different from ours we are going to naturally assume they are false claiming... especially when they are already under suspicion.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:10:43 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 18:10:43 GMT -5
Does it have to do with the games in MarioKart?
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:11:30 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Mar 7, 2010 18:11:30 GMT -5
Meeko, paul is suggesting that he use his one Day vig toDay, and then you kill him toNight, since he's essentially vanilla and you will HAVE to kill. While I think that's a good idea in theory, a smart Town roleblocker will probably be blocking you toNight. This is my breadcrumb, BTW. I also breadcrumbed quite a bit when I disbelieved IS's roleclaim.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:12:43 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Mar 7, 2010 18:12:43 GMT -5
Balloon Fighter is a very old game. Kinda on the same level as Joust.
And fuck I don't know what to do with my vote right now.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:12:54 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Mar 7, 2010 18:12:54 GMT -5
I have no idea who Balloon Fighter is...once again, I'm playing a game in which I have no clue about anything regarding the canon.
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Day 2
Mar 7, 2010 18:14:52 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 7, 2010 18:14:52 GMT -5
There's always the shaggy case.
Or we could vote Sinjin and put her out of her misery, though I have no reasons to suspect her nor did I NAF.
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