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Post by BillMc on Jul 28, 2010 18:29:11 GMT -5
Both septimus and MS use the word 'Free' in inverted commas after buff has claimed, septimus then unvotes buff in the same post (#353 pg 12) and waffles on about a circle of trust. MS picks up on it in #363 next page and buff replys independently to both of them. May be nothing, but worth considering. oh my! Yeah, that's a plausible theory. So if they have already confirmed each other, there is little benefit in killing buff. I've no objections to a MHaye or Sach kill either.
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Post by special on Jul 29, 2010 2:16:24 GMT -5
I'll have to assume that the witches have figured out the Masons. Nanook is a witch. They'll also figure out that we've figured it out. So their protection could be spread out between themselves, Idle and the 3 Masons.
Hopefully, we should have good aim at the other 12 players.
I'm not sure why, but I suspect sachertorte is a Vampire. I'd like to leave him alive. Hopefully he'll take a shot at one of those 12 as well.
I'd also suspect that nphase might be an undead. It just strikes me as something she'd like to try.
Town: 3 Witches (Nanook, Eureka, ??) 1 Vicar (??) 3 Detectives (??, ??, ??) 1 Coroner(??) 1 Seer(??) 1 Scotsman (Idle) 3 Freemasons (bufftabby, Metallic Squink, septimus)
Wolves 1 Alpha Wolf (Special Ed) 5 Werewolves (moodymitchy, storyteller, BillMc, Inner Stickler, duvsie 1 Omega Wolf (Sister)
Undead 2 Vampires (??, ??) 1 Necromancer (??) 1 Zombie (Hoopy)
Cabal 2 Cabalists (??, ??)
Unknown people 01. Merestil Haye (detective??) 02. Pollux Oil 03. MentalGuy 04. Honest Moley 05. stanislaus (seer??) 06. Captain Pinkies 07. Mister Blockey 08. sachertorte 09. nphase 10. FlyingCowOfDoom 11. redskeezix 12. Kat!
Of the 12 unknown, there are 3 Undead and 2 Cabal and 7 Town.
The Town include 1 witch, 1 seer, 1 Coroner, 1 Vicar, and 3 detectives.
(Unless Idle was fudging the number of Cabal in hopes of getting them to expose themselves)
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Post by Duvsie on Jul 29, 2010 3:19:05 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a plausible theory. So if they have already confirmed each other, there is little benefit in killing buff. I've no objections to a MHaye or Sach kill either. I don't necessarily agree, the masons only get to feel out one player per day. So even if they think they have identified each other, they will only have it confirmed over the next couple of days at most. I would hazard a guess that MS got her action in before she went away so as not to waste it. Sept on the other hand is a newbie, so I would think he more than likely got his action in, if not before, then certainly not long after Pleo posted the reminder (Pg 7), especially as he'd already voted for buff by that time. Regardless, I'm def good with an MHaye kill.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 29, 2010 6:28:44 GMT -5
I am fine with any choice for the kill target. With all the role interaction, Night kills are going to be a crapshoot anyway. For what it's worth, I worry incessantly about nphase, sach, and Kat, who are all very good players who have played with most of us repeatedly and will be alert to our tells.
I suspect sachertorte is Scum. He has clearly pegged me as Scum - all on good reasons - but he will not say so openly which tells me he doesn't want to out me for whatever reason (my guess? He's undead and doesn't want to get me lynched if I am undead also).
Thus I'd favor Kat or nphase. Mhaye is a fine choice, as he is a fine player, but his tendency to drop in right before the deadline with a vote (or to fail to vote altogether) is going to get him in possible lynch trouble in every game. Still, it can't hurt to be proactive. We need everyone dead, after all.
Biggest thing, though: I think I should be the killer. I have been actively trying to play on the suspicious side. My shelf life in these Conspiracy games is usually not very good - I was killed on the first (?) Night in C2, and would have been killed on the first Night in C1 if I hadn't been a Magician. I'm not going to last long. I'll be killed, or investigated then lynched. As long as I'm going down, I might as well shield the rest of you from investigation for as long as possible (and hopefully I can get myself lynched Day Two or Three).
And if there's any chance that one of you can actively "catch me" based on my posting, that would probably be useful, too.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 29, 2010 6:29:05 GMT -5
I am fine with any choice for the kill target. With all the role interaction, Night kills are going to be a crapshoot anyway. For what it's worth, I worry incessantly about nphase, sach, and Kat, who are all very good players who have played with most of us repeatedly and will be alert to our tells.
I suspect sachertorte is Scum. He has clearly pegged me as Scum - all on good reasons - but he will not say so openly which tells me he doesn't want to out me for whatever reason (my guess? He's undead and doesn't want to get me lynched if I am undead also).
Thus I'd favor Kat or nphase. Mhaye is a fine choice, as he is a fine player, but his tendency to drop in right before the deadline with a vote (or to fail to vote altogether) is going to get him in possible lynch trouble in every game. Still, it can't hurt to be proactive. We need everyone dead, after all.
Biggest thing, though: I think I should be the killer. I have been actively trying to play on the suspicious side. My shelf life in these Conspiracy games is usually not very good - I was killed on the first (?) Night in C2, and would have been killed on the first Night in C1 if I hadn't been a Magician. I'm not going to last long. I'll be killed, or investigated then lynched. As long as I'm going down, I might as well shield the rest of you from investigation for as long as possible (and hopefully I can get myself lynched Day Two or Three).
And if there's any chance that one of you can actively "catch me" based on my posting, that would probably be useful, too.
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Post by Pleonast on Jul 29, 2010 10:28:13 GMT -5
It's up to you guys on how you decide what to do, but it's easier for me if you vote for your target in one color and vote for your attacker in another. Or, you can just let Special Ed make a pronouncement.
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Post by special on Jul 29, 2010 11:15:55 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a plausible theory. So if they have already confirmed each other, there is little benefit in killing buff. I've no objections to a MHaye or Sach kill either. I don't necessarily agree, the masons only get to feel out one player per day. So even if they think they have identified each other, they will only have it confirmed over the next couple of days at most. I would hazard a guess that MS got her action in before she went away so as not to waste it. Sept on the other hand is a newbie, so I would think he more than likely got his action in, if not before, then certainly not long after Pleo posted the reminder (Pg 7), especially as he'd already voted for buff by that time. Regardless, I'm def good with an MHaye kill. I'm certain that both metallic squink and septimus have ID'd bufftabby from their comments and her responses. I'm also certain that they know of each other from the responses and bufftabby's responses. At the very least, bufftabby and squink know of all 3. (due to squink copying septimus' style) but septimus may be unaware of squink, though I highly doubt it.
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Post by special on Jul 29, 2010 11:19:27 GMT -5
Here's something I was thinking.
With my special power, I need to stay alive.
I could sorely use some Night protection.
I may be able to claim detective. I can either ID our killer, in which case they are likely to be lynched and I'm likely to gain Town Cred (and a detective is no danger to the killing of the Undead, so they should let me live). We can then double our kills the following Night, and I'm undetectable in my kills.
Or, I can claim one of the other kills and say I got no result so it must have been a Vampire, which should be true as well....
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Post by special on Jul 29, 2010 11:21:55 GMT -5
I agree with story, I've had a feeling that sachertorte was a Vampire..just an eerie feeling.
I think he ID'd story, FCOD, and myself in trying to create an odd sort of handshake if we were undead as well.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 29, 2010 11:28:25 GMT -5
I agree with story, I've had a feeling that sachertorte was a Vampire..just an eerie feeling. I think he ID'd story, FCOD, and myself in trying to create an odd sort of handshake if we were undead as well. Me, too! And I tried to agree with the point he was making, at least in principle, so that he would feel I was shaking back, if that makes sense.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 29, 2010 11:29:00 GMT -5
By when do we need to enter our kill? I'm going to need a few hours to recover from the complete and total atrocity that was the SDMB Harry Potter game.
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Post by special on Jul 29, 2010 11:29:03 GMT -5
so, out of these 12 unknowns as 2 Vampires.
If we kill from there, we have a 1/6 chance of dying immediately. I want to stay away from FCOD and sachertorte. nphase and Kat scare me as well as people who may have chosen undead.
story, if you think that the Vampires might think you are undead, we should keep you alive.
We need opinions on who to kill.
01. Merestil Haye (detective??) 02. Pollux Oil 03. MentalGuy 04. Honest Moley 05. stanislaus (seer??) 06. Captain Pinkies 07. Mister Blockey 08. sachertorte 09. nphase 10. FlyingCowOfDoom 11. redskeezix 12. Kat!
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Also, as an alternative, one of ya'll could claim detective and finger someone we want lynched. You'd probably be lynched the next Day (since there may not be a Town NK power) and then my power activates...it would also keep lynch pressure off of me.
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Post by special on Jul 29, 2010 11:30:05 GMT -5
By when do we need to enter our kill? I'm going to need a few hours to recover from the complete and total atrocity that was the SDMB Harry Potter game. We should have a little less than 24 hours. Schedule has Night ending on Friday at noon PST 3PM EST
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Post by special on Jul 29, 2010 11:30:28 GMT -5
NETA more than
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Post by BillMc on Jul 29, 2010 13:59:13 GMT -5
I'm good with an Mhaye kill - I'm good with Ed making the call on target and killer
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Post by special on Jul 29, 2010 17:59:09 GMT -5
METAGAME ALERT!
nphase really really really wanted to be Scum in Harry Potter.
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Post by moodymitchy on Jul 30, 2010 0:33:50 GMT -5
Happy with the MHAYE kill and also any choice of killer...
Confused as to why ED would (ok I know it gets TC) like to claim Detective so early on... unless we as a group can cast suspicion on him.
Wouldn't it seem odd coming out this early or are things different regarding that sort of thing in these games??
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Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 0:47:46 GMT -5
Happy with the MHAYE kill and also any choice of killer... Confused as to why ED would (ok I know it gets TC) like to claim Detective so early on... unless we as a group can cast suspicion on him. Wouldn't it seem odd coming out this early or are things different regarding that sort of thing in these games?? I would probably only do it if I were taking some heat. We've already got a great many claims/reveals so it might continue. We actually have the greatest advantage knowing what's happened in the thread plus all 7 of us. We can really limit our kills.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 30, 2010 1:21:27 GMT -5
ok Ed, make the call on the Kill/Killer.
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Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 1:42:52 GMT -5
I eliminated Sister, myself, and storyteller from consideration for doing the Night Kill. Randomizing Moody, Bill, Inner, Duvsie
Vote: Inner Stickler kills MHaye[/color]
If anyone strongly objects, let's hash it out. I can probably be convinced to go after Kat or stanislaus instead. I don't want to target FCOD
I went back and looked through Kat and FCOD for hints as to how they responded to sachertorte. I didn't come up with much.. They were both undead last time, correct?
My rationale for selecting Alpha Wolf was that I fucked it up so badly last time that I wanted another crack at it.
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Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 1:49:01 GMT -5
Detectives have a Day power, but when do they get the results?
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Post by Duvsie on Jul 30, 2010 3:21:19 GMT -5
I'm happy with that decision, though would quite happily change places with IS if he (or anyone) strongly disagrees.
I can actually see nphase as a cabalist tbh, I think it's the kind of role that she would feel was a challenge for her. I'd even go so far as to say the other could very well be Moley from their interactions and the quick vote that nphase gave buff.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jul 30, 2010 7:36:09 GMT -5
*starts sharpening his fangs*
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Post by Pleonast on Jul 30, 2010 11:15:57 GMT -5
Okay, Inner Stickler kills MHaye, unless there's a change of plans.
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Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 11:36:07 GMT -5
I'm happy with that decision, though would quite happily change places with IS if he (or anyone) strongly disagrees. I can actually see nphase as a cabalist tbh, I think it's the kind of role that she would feel was a challenge for her. I'd even go so far as to say the other could very well be Moley from their interactions and the quick vote that nphase gave buff. Can you point out those interactions with post numbers?
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Post by Duvsie on Jul 30, 2010 12:25:06 GMT -5
I'm happy with that decision, though would quite happily change places with IS if he (or anyone) strongly disagrees. I can actually see nphase as a cabalist tbh, I think it's the kind of role that she would feel was a challenge for her. I'd even go so far as to say the other could very well be Moley from their interactions and the quick vote that nphase gave buff. Can you point out those interactions with post numbers? Well it's really more for her quick vote on bufftabby on page 2 (#56 & #57). For her explanation on pg 3 #71, she uses the word 'bait'. It just seemed, for me, like a set up at the time.
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