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Post by Pleonast on Aug 6, 2010 14:12:03 GMT -5
Keep on going.
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Post by Renata on Aug 6, 2010 14:13:06 GMT -5
Oh, that sucks so bad. Sorry, stanislaus.
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Post by Renata on Aug 6, 2010 14:15:07 GMT -5
At least someone got Eureka. So unless you'd decided to target Nanook *and* Nanook wasn't protected, then all we've lost is your life (and a dead wolf) -- not the ability usage or (likely) the chance to see a dead witch. And given there are only two dead, it's possible you'd only have been double-targeting Nanook anyway. But man I wish you were still alive. Crapola.
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Post by Renata on Aug 6, 2010 14:20:41 GMT -5
PS -- you can still post here, I believe.
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Post by stanislaus on Aug 6, 2010 14:22:05 GMT -5
It's a bad blow.
I would say you have to try to keep off the radar, but I don't know how easy that is. Maybe the best bet is to push a case against Bill or MM and try to force a claim, and then hope that this gets you enough attention to be worth killing. I would definitely say you should use the power toNight, because otherwise, as we've discovered, you might not get the chance.
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Post by Renata on Aug 6, 2010 14:29:24 GMT -5
Well, I hadn't gotten around to mentioning it yet, but I'm going to be all but absent this Day. The weekend is imminent, and we're very likely to spend much of next week with my sister in law and a new baby. Bill is unlikely to come under pressure easily (same with MM) with Inner Stickler and sachertorte on the table. Nor do I have any history of suspecting him. Let's see what happens, particularly as I will not be around enough to even try to steer things.
Special Ed kept calling me Undead. If there's any whiff today that the wolves *still* think that, I should be safe enough, including from the Vampires. If they've determined that I'm not, it could be a different story.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 6, 2010 15:48:45 GMT -5
Sorry to see you go, Amrussell (That's what I know you as best--er..you DO know you can change your name to that here too, right? There's a name change feature in the profile modifying page.... anyway, we've played in a game or two in the past).
I really hope you get to use your disguise power before you die, nphase. It's one of the reasons I wanted to use it early....didn't want to take the chance I might be killed at Night.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 6, 2010 18:01:56 GMT -5
Really, if you think about it, it doesn't matter if I'm right or not about MG being a wolf too as long as I say it out loud, in the thread. Because I say it out loud...what will happen? A. Either he is scum pretending to be a detective...in which case, I'd be right and be thought of as a good mafia player. B. ..or he's really a detective...in which case, even better! Because the wolves will know he's not one of them and they'll WANT A PERSON still having some suspicion against him in the game. Seriously, if he is who he says he is, the wolves should all of leave me alone now, because they'd want a "Townsperson" to be openly still wary of a claimed detective. Does that make sense? So I'd expect they'd want that kind of a person in the game as long as possible.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 6, 2010 18:07:15 GMT -5
The times I was playing scum, we loved it when two (town) players were suspicious of each other...we left those players alone because we figured they'd be their own worst enemies eventually. Leave them be and they'd only become more suspicious of each other as the Days go by. So me still showing suspicion of him might not be a bad thing in the long run.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 6, 2010 18:11:20 GMT -5
OH, and I think I might (if not toDay then tomorrow), start suggesting a mass claim. I'd say the con reasons were, yes, it would reveal who the third witch was (although we'd know that wasn't a con for us at all)...but the major pro is, it would whittle down the people suspected of being scum. I mean, since everyone's believing in my list right now, there's only so many roles a wolf can claim! They can't claim any extras.
But obviously my secret agenda would be to get the info on who the third witch was.
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Post by Renata on Aug 6, 2010 20:05:14 GMT -5
Not a bad thought Idle, though I admit I haven't thought it out.
I'm so pissed at myself right now! What Nanook said. That's why they shoot at stanislaus first. Man, I can't believe I didn't see it. Good thing there's nothing but pride riding on this, because geez.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 7, 2010 2:52:18 GMT -5
Me, I didn't get anything he said so fill me in?
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Post by Renata on Aug 7, 2010 14:45:38 GMT -5
As he pointed out indirectly, Mental Guy (assuming he's a detective) was no direct threat to the wolves last night. He'd already outed one of them; they'd surely use that one (Inner Stickler) to make the kill, as a result.
So not only did that vastly increase the risk they would go after the suspected detective, stanislaus, who was sure not to be protected, than the actual one, Mental Guy, but also ... WE COULD HAVE BLOCKED THE KILL!q!@!!111!!1!!!
God, I feel SO stupid.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 8, 2010 16:11:18 GMT -5
True, but I fail to see how that makes MG any less chance of being a wolf too.
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Post by Renata on Aug 9, 2010 7:12:59 GMT -5
Oh, because it gives the wolves an additional motive to leave MG alone for a night. Remember we discussed the witches would probably self-protect? Well, that's probably, but not certain. So imagine you're a wolf. You have a claimed detective, an outed wolf, three witches, and another player who you (or special ed, anyway) strongly suspect to be a detective. Why not kill the suspected detective first? The claimed one cannot further hurt you that night, because you just use the outed wolf to do the kill. Stanislaus surely won't be protected (*cry*), and maybe by the next night somebody takes care of the witch problem for you (and in fact Eureka was killed).
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Post by Renata on Aug 9, 2010 7:17:08 GMT -5
Oh, about the mass claim idea -- strangely enough I think we may be better off with the third witch still hidden. As long as they're hidden, there's a chance one of the killers may get them while trying for the Seer or something. Then we take out Nanook.
The problem is the third witch will not knowingly be killed by a smart wolf or vampire if they have any other choices. Why do the Cabal's work for us?
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Post by stanislaus on Aug 9, 2010 9:15:57 GMT -5
That's a very good point about the third witch. It's probably best for nphase just to have a quiet Day, then. It's up to you whether you want to have a crack at a kill - based on recent experience I'd recommend it. In fact, even if we don't hit the Witch, reducing the further pool for others to do so is perfectly acceptable.
I've been thinking about Undead. They're probably doing the best of all factions right now. Even if sach is Vamp, the fact that Special Ed accused him means pretty much nobody will follow it up. Certainly few Wolves will want to draw that association. They're on two Zombies now - odds are that will keep mounting, unless the Vicar gets lucky. So hitting the Necromancer, or turning Vig and hitting a Vamp will probably be quite a result in terms of reining them in.
Idle, when I registered here I was kind of fed up with being amrussell, and wanted to change names at SDMB. But then I started posting there more often, so it seemed silly to switch. So now I'm kind of betwixt and between. I'd probably still prefer to change on their though - I'll see if I can attract the attention of a mod/admin.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 10, 2010 21:55:44 GMT -5
Ohhh, okie dokie. And I don't mind if you save your power, Nphase, I'd just hate to see you die without it being used, haha.
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Post by Renata on Aug 11, 2010 7:29:44 GMT -5
I know. But I feel like we have no chance if I don't hold on to it a bit longer.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 11, 2010 10:14:13 GMT -5
I've been trying major reverse psychology in-game. I figure if I act like a useless, helpless, "I-fucked-up" "Town Scotsman", the scum will want to leave me alone as long as possible (since I obviously pose no threat) and we might be able to pull off some kind of win.
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Post by Renata on Aug 11, 2010 10:53:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I see that. Quite amusing. You could vote for probable townies, too, if you're confident enough and the opportunity presents itself. Inner Stickler is amusing. Aim at Mental Guy and Nanook with all three killers? Guarantee exactly one death? Somehow I don't think the town would cry that hard if that happened, even if was Nanook who died (it wouldn't be). Something tells me the wolves are just a wee bit scared of the vamps.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 11, 2010 15:10:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. I also don't think it will go down exactly like he planned it out. I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow there were totally unexpected people dead. All I know is..if MG is still alive tomorrow, I'm going after him with everything I've got.
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