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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 9:56:05 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2010 9:56:05 GMT -5
I was really hoping it wouldn't come to this, but with only 12 hours left in the Day we're running out of time...so I think I have no choice. I am a Compulsive Town Vigilante. <snipped> ouch. not the wisest course of action my friend. if scum have a redirector you have effectively given them two kills per Night until you get lynched. fuck at least claim non compulsive vig. jeebus. crap i take back what i said. back in a bit.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 9:59:27 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Sept 17, 2010 9:59:27 GMT -5
My entirely unofficial vote count, working off the last official vote count we received:
Mr. Stay Puft (7) - Dr. Strangelove, Marcel, Nodrom, Rorschach, Buddy Christ, Zedd, Dr. Rajesh
Iskaral Pust (4) - Mr. Stay Puft, Jack Skellington, Lt. Columbo, Nakor
Batman (1) - Iskaral Pust
Captain Pinkies (1) - Curious George
Nakor (1) - The Corinthian
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I am struck by the weird way this Day has developed so far. Eleanor got some votes, claimed Doctor, and then there was a rush, and all of a sudden Iskaral had five votes and seemed like the likely lynch target. But then just as suddenly, Mr. Stay Puft took a lead.
Obviously, since we know no one's alignment yet, this is all sort of meaningless. But, if I am not here in two or three Days to do it, somebody please come back and look at the events of the last 24 hours in light of whatever reveals we have in the next few cycles; I think there will be much to see.
But what about right now?
Interestingly, Iskaral Pust has not voted for Mr. Stay Puft, nor has she role claimed. I don't know exactly what to make of that.
I don't like the cases against either main candidate right now. I have historically disliked lurker lynches. I have softened on this stance a bit; my view of the last few games strongly suggests that lurkers must be dealt with with extreme prejudice, preferably relatively early in the game. They are poison in the endgame, regardless of their alignment. But lynching a lurker Day One means we start with virtually no useful information at the outset of Day Two (other than whatever information the Scum choose to provide via their kill). So I remain opposed to it for toDay.
This needs more consideration.
Mr. Stay Puft, you described yourself as a "Compulsive" Vig; does this mean what it appears to mean - ie, you are required to kill every Night?
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:00:53 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Sept 17, 2010 10:00:53 GMT -5
I was really hoping it wouldn't come to this, but with only 12 hours left in the Day we're running out of time...so I think I have no choice. I am a Compulsive Town Vigilante. <snipped> ouch. not the wisest course of action my friend. if scum have a redirector you have effectively given them two kills per Night until you get lynched. fuck at least claim non compulsive vig. jeebus. crap i take back what i said. back in a bit. Hadn't thought of that. That is problematic. Although, if the Town have a watcher, a Scum redirector might get caught kind of quickly.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:04:03 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2010 10:04:03 GMT -5
<snipped> ouch. not the wisest course of action my friend. if scum have a redirector you have effectively given them two kills per Night until you get lynched. fuck at least claim non compulsive vig. jeebus. crap i take back what i said. back in a bit. Hadn't thought of that. That is problematic. Although, if the Town have a watcher, a Scum redirector might get caught kind of quickly. and i hadn't thought of that either. oh the tangled webs that are weaved.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:08:48 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Sept 17, 2010 10:08:48 GMT -5
Could someone please tell me a city in the Eastern timezone? I can't figure out when Day ends
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:19:46 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 17, 2010 10:19:46 GMT -5
Maniac, to answer your question: I must kill every night, and I win only if the Town wins.
Which in my mind made me a (marginal) asset to the Town, because we get two kills per day. (Of course the actual usefulness of that depends on how good I am at picking out Scum).
Of course, I didn't consider that the Scum might have a redirector, which would make me a big liability for the Town
But then again, again, I also didn't consider the idea of the Town having a Watcher watch me to determine if I was redirected or not.
On the third hand....no, I've only got two hands.
I think I'll try to find that craps game to while away a few hours. Anyone know where the pantry is?
Galadriel, Eastern time is GMT-5. It is currently 11:19 AM
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:27:22 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2010 10:27:22 GMT -5
Could someone please tell me a city in the Eastern timezone? I can't figure out when Day ends charleston, sc. good food, good sites, good fun.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:28:04 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 17, 2010 10:28:04 GMT -5
I was really hoping it wouldn't come to this, but with only 12 hours left in the Day we're running out of time...so I think I have no choice. I am a Compulsive Town Vigilante. <snipped> ouch. not the wisest course of action my friend. if scum have a redirector you have effectively given them two kills per Night until you get lynched. fuck at least claim non compulsive vig. jeebus. crap i take back what i said. back in a bit. You know, in retrospect I agree with you. I logged on to see how things were going before I left for work this morning, and wanted to post before I left the house. In my haste, I might have divulged slightly more information that was prudent. Although I'd bet money that if I had just said "Vig", somebody would have asked me whether or not I was compulsive, and we'd be right back here anyway. Ah well...I'm sure I'll make it past nightfall one of these days...
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:28:28 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Sept 17, 2010 10:28:28 GMT -5
Hadn't thought of that. That is problematic. Although, if the Town have a watcher, a Scum redirector might get caught kind of quickly. But could also be a Town blocker not wanting a gun-happy Vig running all over the game... Possibilities are endless, aren't they?
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:32:19 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Sept 17, 2010 10:32:19 GMT -5
Thanks for helping me with the time and Day-end Seems like I have tonight to read and try to get my head working on this matter of the Vig. Nomally I like the Town Vig - but the compulsive bit scares me for two reasons: 1. I've seen Vigs go for townies more often than I've seen them kill Scum (especially early in games). 2. It's a very easy claim for an SK
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:34:13 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 17, 2010 10:34:13 GMT -5
Vote Marcel
Marshymallow's role sucks for us, but he's still TOWN. Better >0 chance of scumlynch than almost-100% change of townlynch. (Could be lying, but he'd probably pick a better role.)
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:36:06 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Sept 17, 2010 10:36:06 GMT -5
Thinking about it...
IF we have a Vig, then that would be a very good way to deal with the lurkers. We could have him shooting for the lowest post-countee every day.
But if he missed - would that be because he was re-directed or just plain wasn't follow that plan.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:37:33 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 17, 2010 10:37:33 GMT -5
Of course, I didn't consider that the Scum might have a redirector, which would make me a big liability for the Town *skulldesk* SQUEEK (Please see my .sig. Now, admittedly, we don't know if scum have a re-director, but based how much trouble I caused Town as an outed compulsory vig -- well, okay, it was slightly more complicated than that, but still -- I'm leaning toward voting you just to prevent the chance of Scum taking the extra kill.) /me shakes her head and sighs. On the third hand....no, I've only got two hands. Squeek (Nordom has four.) Squeek (I'm not satisfied with any of the arguments against any of the candidates. At this point, I'm going to) SQUEEK (Vote: FCoD/Joe for being here but not-here. Two posts just seems a suspiciously low number to me, for FCoD -- Two posts for BillMcBatman or La Comptesse Duvsie is far more normal. )
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:39:36 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2010 10:39:36 GMT -5
Hadn't thought of that. That is problematic. Although, if the Town have a watcher, a Scum redirector might get caught kind of quickly. But could also be a Town blocker not wanting a gun-happy Vig running all over the game... Possibilities are endless, aren't they? really they are and it is fascinating. because if scum happend to have a watcher type then a potential town rb blocks a claimed town compulsive vig that and that outs the town rb. and if they had a redirector as well (lot of power going on here but it is all theoretical) then the rb is toast the next Night and the vig is once again under the control of scum. hawking would be proud of the permutations that can arise in this game.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:43:34 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2010 10:43:34 GMT -5
Hadn't thought of that. That is problematic. Although, if the Town have a watcher, a Scum redirector might get caught kind of quickly. and story/homicidal maniac i am going to give you some shit. sorry, but this post stinks. if i can think of it then i certainly know that you would have thought of it as well.
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Sept 17, 2010 10:47:33 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Sept 17, 2010 10:47:33 GMT -5
Ai, yeah, I get peeker that if Suburban Plankton get lynched again Day One makes me feel a bit guilty towards a new player. The newbiness also excuses claiming compulsive since he wouldn't be familiar with the scum redirector trick that happened in that game everyone mentions when this comes up. Maniac, to answer your question: I must kill every night, and I win only if the Town wins. That win condition is phrased a bit ackward though the actual claim does mention "Town Vigilante". On my third hand, your claim isn't as valuable as a Doctor to keep around and the fourth hand warns me about that you actually quite dangerous to town even if you are Town. As another example of that - if Eleanor is truthful there is no reason for her not to self-protect but that doesn't mean you could try to fail to kill her to avoid killing town as she could be blocked by scum. I'm tempted however to switch my vote to Twilight Fangirl since if either you of Iskaral is scum the race between the two of you provides some information for Today which is one of the downsides of a non-participant lynch.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:51:29 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2010 10:51:29 GMT -5
Although I'd bet money that if I had just said "Vig", somebody would have asked me whether or not I was compulsive, and we'd be right back here anyway. yeh, but in that case you just refuse to answer. any town person would understand that by providing additional information would only benefit scum and would let it stand. the ones that press would then be the target of additional scrutiny. town wouldn't need to know but scum would surely want to know.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 10:56:31 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Sept 17, 2010 10:56:31 GMT -5
SQUEEK (Vote: FCoD/Joe for being here but not-here. Two posts just seems a suspiciously low number to me, for FCoD -- Two posts for BillMcBatman or La Comptesse Duvsie is far more normal. ) I'm going to raise an eyebrow here I get the Lynch a Lurker. I even talked about it and would still consider to go that way. So it's not you vote than makes me wonder what's going on. It's more the fact that we seen (in a rather sort space of time) 3 voting for lurkers. But all 3 picking different lurkers. Seems a bit... off somehow. You being number 3 and voting with a small comment on the first lurker-vote (BillMc) and not even commenting on the second lurker-vote. Somehow... I find it odd. Not the vote itself. But they way you seem to totally ignore the already placed lurker-votes...
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 11:00:10 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Sept 17, 2010 11:00:10 GMT -5
SQUEEK (Vote: FCoD/Joe for being here but not-here. Two posts just seems a suspiciously low number to me, for FCoD -- Two posts for BillMcBatman or La Comptesse Duvsie is far more normal. ) And the reason I haven't changed my vote yet is that is we let a claimed compulsive vigilante live (as said a Serial Killer can claim the same) than Twilight Fangirl would be an obvious target* as non-participant so why lynch him Today then? Not sure going for a lurker at this point is a good idea in case they don't come back before a claim. The problem is of course who else? *) an target not the target. I don't think it's a good idea at this time for Mr. Puft to declare her target up front.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 11:03:02 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 17, 2010 11:03:02 GMT -5
You being number 3 and voting with a small comment on the first lurker-vote (BillMc) and not even commenting on the second lurker-vote. Somehow... I find it odd. Not the vote itself. But they way you seem to totally ignore the already placed lurker-votes... Squeek (I didn't see any reason to comment on the BillMcBatman vote other than what I said there, and honestly I dithered between FCoD/Joe and Pinkies. But I also mentioned FCoD/Joe in my earlier response to you about lynching the lurker, and frankly -- assuming StaPuft is telling the truth -- we have a vig who can take out the non-participant for us. Besides; I find FCoD's low post count and his initial post that he's a "get out of the way" type far more suspicious than Pinkies' total lack of participation.)
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 11:04:36 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 17, 2010 11:04:36 GMT -5
I don't think it's a good idea at this time for Mr. Puft to declare her target up front. SQUEEK! (I think that it's a rare set of circumstances indeed that makes it a good idea for a vig to declare their target ahead of time.)
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 11:05:34 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2010 11:05:34 GMT -5
hey, puffy when you claimed was that a cut and paste job or was it just typed. and if it was just typed could you do me a favor. verify that it was exactly as you received it in your pm.
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Sept 17, 2010 11:08:02 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Sept 17, 2010 11:08:02 GMT -5
-+-Definition: Lurker-+- FlyingJoeOfDoom is a lurker as his few posts indicate he at least read or skimmed about the post restriction business. Same for Batman if I rememeber.
-+--Definition: Non Participant Twilight Fangirl didn't pick a costume or post at all so far.
I see the first as more scummy but also as a easy case to make as scum. Voting for the latter is more of a kick-out-of-the-game vote than voting for scum vote. Not sure what our hosts rules are about that.
Nordom ducks into the Waiting Room with some green paint...
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Sept 17, 2010 11:11:39 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Sept 17, 2010 11:11:39 GMT -5
hey, puffy when you claimed was that a cut and paste job or was it just typed. and if it was just typed could you do me a favor. verify that it was exactly as you received it in your pm. Nordom returns from the waiting room with scrap of paper and gives it to the monkey. Nordom hopes monkey can read .
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 11:20:23 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2010 11:20:23 GMT -5
hey, puffy when you claimed was that a cut and paste job or was it just typed. and if it was just typed could you do me a favor. verify that it was exactly as you received it in your pm. Nordom returns from the waiting room with scrap of paper and gives it to the monkey. Nordom hopes monkey can read .i wasn't requesting that he give us his pm which i understand to be verbotten (sp?) but i also expect that the mods will give lattitude on how much of a role pm a player could give. for example if i were assigned "role blocker". i think i could quote that directly and not have to go down the silly bunny hole of "roll blokker with bacon squeeze and butter".
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 12:06:42 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Sept 17, 2010 12:06:42 GMT -5
I was planning to vote for Batman yesterday before I ran out of time to post, and I think there's no reason for me not to do that now. Batman has posted five times since things got moving on the game front, and not one of those posts has had any content to it (the closest was something like "well, at least now we know there are post restrictions" after Ramesh was punished). Bill's never been a prolific poster, but this has the look of someone who wants to show himself as present but can't find anything to say. vote: Bill/BatmanHoly post count! ...replays the day on the BatMonitor...HDbyTivo...we're not beyond corporate sponsorship now. ...uh huh...fluff, fluff, hey that Colombo guy is quite funny, so is the guy in the other mask, tho it could do with a wash ...uh huh, has the sound gone? oh no, Ed's just got a post restriction. So a lot of waffle, so in short, your vote looks like someone reaching for reason to vote the Batman. Robin, looking at Batgirl: "You know something, Batman?" Batman: "What's that, Robin?" Robin: "She looks very pretty when she's asleep." Batman: "I thought you might eventually notice that. That single statement indicates to me the first oncoming thrust of manhood, old chum." ....wonders if I should post 1001 Batman quotes just to keep you happy with something to say.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 12:21:30 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Sept 17, 2010 12:21:30 GMT -5
Marshymallow's role sucks for us, but he's still TOWN. Better >0 chance of scumlynch than almost-100% change of townlynch. (Could be lying, but he'd probably pick a better role.) ::points to his butt:: But, How often does Town get scum on day 1? [Ok, last two games were an outlier. I will concede that.] Chances are, by odds alone, we will mis-lynch. I would rather make it a "" Good"" mis-lynch than going off blind. Even if we do lynch scum today, that means we will go into night with two kills. I don't like those odds at all. Will we lynch Stay Puft tomorrow then? Or will we go into a second round of vigging ? Odds aren't much better. When do we kill the vig? What happens once all the lurkers are gone? Why not just kill him now? It's Inevitable, and it's less ouchy. Or did we forget Colorless already?
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Sept 17, 2010 12:25:47 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Sept 17, 2010 12:25:47 GMT -5
Could someone please tell me a city in the Eastern timezone? I can't figure out when Day ends New York, New York. www.time.govI know it was answered, but this is a more answier answer. Yes, answier quality of an answer.
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Day 1
Sept 17, 2010 12:26:45 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Sept 17, 2010 12:26:45 GMT -5
::salutes the Mod::
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Sept 17, 2010 12:32:17 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Sept 17, 2010 12:32:17 GMT -5
You being number 3 and voting with a small comment on the first lurker-vote (BillMc) and not even commenting on the second lurker-vote. Somehow... I find it odd. Not the vote itself. But they way you seem to totally ignore the already placed lurker-votes... Squeek (I didn't see any reason to comment on the BillMcBatman vote other than what I said there, and honestly I dithered between FCoD/Joe and Pinkies. But I also mentioned FCoD/Joe in my earlier response to you about lynching the lurker, and frankly -- assuming StaPuft is telling the truth -- we have a vig who can take out the non-participant for us. Besides; I find FCoD's low post count and his initial post that he's a "get out of the way" type far more suspicious than Pinkies' total lack of participation.) As I said, what made me wonder wasn't the vote or the fact that FCoD seems like a very nice candidate for the lurker-title. It was more the fact that you also placed a lurker-vote. But instead of trying to a) get the other lurker-voters to move their votes to your candidate with reasons for why your candidate was better or b) explain why you disagreed with their candidates and therefore unable to support their candidate for "the biggest lurker of Day 1" you chose to vote a 3. candidate and ignored the one vote complete and only slightly refer to the first. The result was that you did place a lurker vote. But at the same time it seemed very unlikely that an actually lurker-lynch would take place as a result of this.
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