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Post by Total Ullz on Sept 27, 2010 6:28:31 GMT -5
Could the action with Sinjin be some kind of paranoid doc-thing?
Keeping her safe - but also silent?
I tend to believe Sinjin at this point, so keeping our doctor safe but unable to vote or speak seems a bit odd to me from a townie-point-of-view. Of course IF she can still protect at Night but just can't speak or vote, I can see why someone would do this. We still have her action in the game and to silence a cop would be very bad indeed.
I've only ever played (as far as I remember) in one real game with both Night and Day-powers. And it confused the hell out of me.
As I write this I tend to believe that protecting her at Night, as well as making her unvotable at Day, seems like a real big power.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Sept 27, 2010 6:38:23 GMT -5
Oh yeah, and since the Mason's are keeping track of stuff,
Claims of last night's power usage (please fill in the ? with appropriate names, and or reasoning, kthxbye):
1. Raj targetted no one. 2. Stay Puft targetted ? 3. Marcel did nothing (i presume) 4. Batman investigated Jesus "Buddy" Christ 5. Zedd investigated ?
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Post by Red Skeezix on Sept 27, 2010 6:49:27 GMT -5
NETA: Forgot 2
Columbo Targetted ? Eleanor Targetted ?
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Post by Renata on Sept 27, 2010 6:53:30 GMT -5
Another bad night for the MURDERERS, heehee! But not a bad night for me! I'm still alive! And so is the mule!
vote: Buddy Christ[/color]
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Post by Renata on Sept 27, 2010 6:56:10 GMT -5
NETA: Forgot 2 Columbo Targetted ? Eleanor Targetted ? 1. Death of Rats, page one. 2. Impossible to say.
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Post by severe delays on Sept 27, 2010 7:27:53 GMT -5
A mafia corrupter you say? Interesting: 1. If you're not lying, it makes Zedd's counter claim a moot point. I'm a little unclear here. Are you saying that you think Zedd is lying? Or that he's another investigator? (On another note and this is for anyone who cares to reply, I'm still a little confused about last Night. What exactly is a power stealer? I can't find it in the wiki. I understand the PFK thing, just not sure what he was doing to us.). vote Buddy Jesus/Drain Bead
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Post by Mahaloth on Sept 27, 2010 7:58:16 GMT -5
Wait.
I just got my Night Results. Apparently, they came in last night after I went to bed.
So, my investigation did go through and there was definitely not a mass "role block".
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Post by Mahaloth on Sept 27, 2010 8:04:39 GMT -5
Ah, having read the "action" since last Night, I should go ahead and share.
I investigated Batman. I asked if he is a "threat to Town." I figured I'd rather know that(even if it can be vague) than his power, which he told us.
I was told Batman is not a threat to Town. Good news, since he told us his investigation.
I think "not a threat to Town" can be trusted. "A threat to Town" could be interpreted a few ways, like a vig and so forth. Anyway, we can trust him if my results are accurate.
Vote Buddy Christ
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Post by Meeko on Sept 27, 2010 8:25:37 GMT -5
I haven't played Mafia in over a year and I'm itching for some excitement. Nothing more to it than that. :: Holds his wrist and moves it in a straight line few inches :: As written, that is understandable. However, Mafia is nothing if you can't hold people to words and actions. At some point, players must hold other players to words and actions. Ironically, don't hold my glance at you against me. I just mean to say that ... the need and being scum are not mutually exclusive. Yes. Italics. That is, I can at once believe you are itching like no tomorrow.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 27, 2010 8:51:18 GMT -5
I was told Batman is not a threat to Town. Good news, since he told us his investigation. Anyway, we can trust him if my results are accurate. :: Makes the snipping scissors motion, and the points to the 'scissors'.::: Snipped. This. I do not have any more power. I think we all know that even if I did, the events [heh] of last night would not have happened. Facts are facts, and we are going real slow in this game, when considering the speed and tempo [Risk V. Conservatism aside.] That being said, if we are wrong, I think we have the space here to try this. I Don't think we are wrong though, given the apparent air-tight If P then Q and If Q then R type logic. Vote Christ
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 27, 2010 8:54:23 GMT -5
All right, it looks like we're making some progress.
Somehow, I have a hard time believing that the Mods just forgot to send results back to our investigators before Dawn. The fact that the PMs were late I think means somethings...but I don't know what yet.
I did not receive a 'late' PM regarding my night action, but that doesn't surprise me, unless the Mods were going to retroactively kill someone...of course, I'm not sure if even that would surprise me. considering the way this game has been going...
We either have two role-blockers, or the Scum and I targeted the same person. Or the Scum did not kill last night, but I find that rather unlikely.
At the moment, the path seems clear...
vote Buddy Christ
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Post by Meeko on Sept 27, 2010 9:06:18 GMT -5
:: Cups his Ear, and leans in, taking a small step or two ::
I would assume that Elanor is listening (reading) us (the thread).
Would it be prudent to address statements to her, and perhaps over-explain?
[Not making a judgment on the intelligence of Elanor, but rather playing it safe so their is no confusion, given the entire feedback [and refine] step of the communication circuit is taken out.]
Would a discussion on who "deserves" to be protected tonight be of more value to Town, or to Scum?
1. Of course, this assumes the "Jail" is a by-product of Elanor's power - that is protection - that must follow tonight.
2. Of course this assumes that Scum are in the game.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Sept 27, 2010 9:08:05 GMT -5
Ah, having read the "action" since last Night, I should go ahead and share. I investigated Batman. I asked if he is a "threat to Town." I figured I'd rather know that(even if it can be vague) than his power, which he told us. I was told Batman is not a threat to Town. Good news, since he told us his investigation. I think "not a threat to Town" can be trusted. "A threat to Town" could be interpreted a few ways, like a vig and so forth. Anyway, we can trust him if my results are accurate. Vote Buddy ChristWell, this simplifies things considerably, in that if Batman is lying, we will now get a two-for-the-price-of-one lynch of Batman and Zedd, which to me implies strongly that Batman is not lying. Thus: vote Buddy ChristIn other good news, if BC is indeed "Mafia," that resolves the open question about whether there is a Mafia at all. I'm going to head back through Days One and Two and see what BC did during that time.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 27, 2010 9:14:08 GMT -5
easy enough for even a monkey to figure out.
unvote all
vote buddy c
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Post by Meeko on Sept 27, 2010 9:18:35 GMT -5
::: Points and body and points again repeatedly, to the same point, as if to indicate a target FAR in the distance. Then makes two fists. and pulls the right fist about a foot behind the left fist, then snaps the right fist back another three inches, opening his fist :::
Perhaps I'm aiming at a FAR OUT THERE target here.
Given this game perhaps we should look at it.
Anyone else have their Karma go up or change?
I believe mine went up. The head scratcher for me though, is that I can't point to any "good" action I have done this game. [Pointing to less than good actions, yeah well.]
Even so, Doesn't Raj have an issue that relates to the gender symbols just three lines above Karma?
YMMV.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Sept 27, 2010 9:26:33 GMT -5
Marcel -
Anyone can increase or decrease Karma (as long as they are a registered user) by using the "Exalt" and "Smite" buttons right underneath Karma. I just increased yours by one :-)
I guess it's theoretically possible that the mods would include a game mechanism that could be affected so dramatically by every player, but it seems unlikely.
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Post by Mahaloth on Sept 27, 2010 9:34:11 GMT -5
Not a mason, but I'll fill mine in for data:
1. Raj targetted no one. 2. Stay Puft targetted ? 3. Marcel did nothing (i presume) 4. Batman investigated Jesus "Buddy" Christ(MAFIA CORRUPTER) 5. Zedd investigated Batman(NOT A THREAT TO TOWN)
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Post by Mahaloth on Sept 27, 2010 9:42:18 GMT -5
Wow, is Drainbead scum in every game, then? She was just scum in Lord of the Rings!
Any idea what a corrupter is?
Could a corrupter force another player to switch teams? Corrupt a Townie to become a Scum?
If so, I wonder if we have some kind of "purifier".
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Post by septimus on Sept 27, 2010 9:42:28 GMT -5
On Days 1 and 2 it was hard to find any strong scum candidates. Coming days may present the opposite problem. (quoting Mr. B) Christ is a CorrupterWhile some of you appear to be agnostic or worse, the Countess Bathory is, IIRC, a devout Lutheran. May I apologize on the Game's behalf for this blasphemy? Meanwhile, I'll join the Sanhedrin's crucifying mob: Lynch: Christ
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 27, 2010 9:47:22 GMT -5
According to Batman, a mafia corrupter would make a townie appear scum for an unknown period of time. A temporary miller-maker, if you will.
Tsk, tsk, Zedd. Skimming is a scum tell.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 27, 2010 9:50:22 GMT -5
We either have two role-blockers, or the Scum and I targeted the same person. Or the Scum did not kill last night, but I find that rather unlikely. Of course, I neglected to include several other possibilities. Our doc might have protected someone before she was imprisoned, or we might have another doctor, or one or more parties with a 'self preservation' action. I should not post before my first cup of coffee in the morning.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 27, 2010 10:15:21 GMT -5
Marcel - Anyone can increase or decrease Karma (as long as they are a registered user) by using the "Exalt" and "Smite" buttons right underneath Karma. I just increased yours by one :-) I guess it's theoretically possible that the mods would include a game mechanism that could be affected so dramatically by every player, but it seems unlikely. :: Nods :: Yes, I know how it works, and I admitted it was a far out there mechanic. Your implication on lack of control over inflating the number is a good point though.
I will be refunding you your non-payment on my far off idea.
Would you want your refund as Cash or Check?
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 27, 2010 10:17:52 GMT -5
According to Batman, a mafia corrupter would make a townie appear scum for an unknown period of time. A temporary miller-maker, if you will. Tsk, tsk, Zedd. Skimming is a scum tell. and not to distract the mob from the task at hand but .... i find the opposite to be true to be honest. as scum i am pouring over every word and phrase trying to figure out a way to twist it. as town i am just reading a book and developing impressions as i move along.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 27, 2010 10:25:02 GMT -5
SQUEEK (Well, all righty then.)
SQUEEK (Vote: Drain Bead/Buddy Christ)
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Post by Mahaloth on Sept 27, 2010 10:42:52 GMT -5
Tsk, tsk, Zedd. Skimming is a scum tell. Ah, I missed it I guess.
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 27, 2010 10:53:49 GMT -5
No kills again with solid information from the death reveal but we got some more claimed. Questions I can think of now: 1) Why did scum fail to kill? --They attacked whomever Eleanor protected (could be herself) --They attacked Eleanor but her jail also stopped Night kills (no indication of that in Dawn post however) --They were role blocked: possible killer Death of Rats--They didn't attempt a kill. Perhaps recruited instead? The investigators would be a prime target then. Since it's early game I probably would not choose death as this point so I think others wouldn't choose that either. If Batman is truthful Corrupter sounds like a recruiter but if it's like the wiki description posted earlier it's unlikely it would corrupt the power so then I don't expect that Buddy is a town-made-miller. 2) Why did Mr Stay Puft fail to kill? -- He failed for one of the reasons at 1 (but then he more likely SK or scum I think). He was exposed so no loss in being tracked but also exposed to role blocks. [/b] - why did you decide not to block the compulsive vigilante?[/ul]-- Mr Stay Puft lied about his power (either as scum or third party with the possibilty to back up his claim with a kill, just not compulsory) -- Lt Columbo actually did block Mr Stay Puft and lied to incriminate Death of Rats. Not as likely as I would expect a scum role blocker to block the doctor or an investigator (unless they didn't kill) -- Someone else blocked him. If there is a town roleblocker who is not Lt Columbo it might be worth counter claiming although with the Buddy lynch seemingly fixed it doesn't need to be right away. -- He attacked a protected target which would most likely be one of the claimed investigators or doctor which if truthful means Puft is not. 3) Why didn't Rajesh kill? -- Exposed so afraid of redirectors? -- He changed his mind about 'there-can-only-be-one-vigilante' 4) For the investigators: how do you results get affect by redirectors? Did you get 'player is this and that' or just a result without player name?
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Post by Mahaloth on Sept 27, 2010 11:05:10 GMT -5
4) For the investigators: how do you results get affect by redirectors? Did you get 'player is this and that' or just a result without player name? Mine says that Batman is not a threat to town. I don't want to quote my PM(I think we are forbidden in the game rules), but it directly says batman is not a threat to town.
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Post by special on Sept 27, 2010 11:19:35 GMT -5
3) Why didn't Rajesh kill? -- Exposed so afraid of redirectors? -- He changed his mind about 'there-can-only-be-one-vigilante' I'm not convinced that Stay-puft isn't a Serial Killer, but I was swayed enough to be hesitant by the other double role claims. Also, by preserving my power I can make sure it is effective if I need it later.
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Post by special on Sept 27, 2010 11:20:28 GMT -5
oh, and
Vote: Buddy Christ
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 27, 2010 11:33:22 GMT -5
--They were role blocked: possible killer Death of RatsSQUEEK!! (WTF is this? Smudge the Rat day?)
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