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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 18, 2010 17:24:20 GMT -5
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Post by Total Ullz on Nov 18, 2010 17:50:00 GMT -5
Oh, no. Did you tell FCoD on fb?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 18, 2010 17:55:04 GMT -5
I'm not so hot at remembering all of the real name --> nic name mapping, so I'm not sure if I've got the Flying Bovine on my FB friends list.
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Post by special on Nov 18, 2010 18:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by Total Ullz on Nov 19, 2010 5:25:12 GMT -5
I'm not so hot at remembering all of the real name --> nic name mapping, so I'm not sure if I've got the Flying Bovine on my FB friends list. I'll tell him
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 19, 2010 6:20:37 GMT -5
We're square now. He's aware and I have admin rights to help clean up, as soon as I'm done with the night shift.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 19, 2010 6:29:57 GMT -5
Has everyone confirmed? Are we playing now?
To paraphrase Clan setups, the games can be quite different because the balance of numbers vs information is not lopsided as it is in normal games where scum know who is and is not scum, while the Town has superior numbers. If there are power roles, they are likely to be distributed evenly into each house. Some clan games involve restrictions and allowances.
A hypothetical example that I am pulling out of my butt:
A Hufflepuff investigator might only get results back if they target a player from Ravenclaw. A Slytherin watcher may only be able to see anything if they target a Gryffendor player. etc
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Post by zuma on Nov 19, 2010 7:16:05 GMT -5
I'm totally clueless about Harry Potter except that our previous prime minister looked like him. I agree with zuma but I see no reason why couldn't be Gryffindor. Vote zumaWhat possible reason would I have to lie about that? It would only encourage my own teammates to vote for me. If you're not Griffindor, you actually only have a 66% chance of making a harmless move, not 75%
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Post by Renata on Nov 19, 2010 10:53:05 GMT -5
I've read all the books, but if I breadcrumb it will only be to mess with you all, so people who haven't read them will be at no disadvantage. Also, Zuma is right, and is probably not Gryffindor. And Natlaw's probably smart enough to realize that, which means perhaps he is. But then he's also probably smart to enough to realize that voting Zuma could out him as Gryffindor himself, so maybe he's not. This is fun. Much more suited to my frame of mind right now than trying to analyze traditional games. Does this game even have power roles? *she asks with all wide-eyed innocence*
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Post by zuma on Nov 19, 2010 11:27:49 GMT -5
To answer a couple questions. Ulla said in her rules post that there are no power roles, no night actions, and no nights. I chose Gryffendor on a whim. I know next to nothing about Harry Potter.
My thought process, such as it is, is that I can't just come out and say "I am X" as then everyone is is NOT x would pile on me and vote me out day 1, which would be bad for me and hence bad for my team.
But if I say "I am not Gryffendor, and hey lets go after them!" then for everyone who is NOT gryffendor, I suddenly become a bad vote target, as instead of having a 25% chance of hitting one of their own team, it goes up to 33%. Which is good for me and good for my team.
Plus, I suddenly become a good target for gryffendor, and any ensuing discussion could out them. And 75% of us can agree that all gryffendor should hang. So it's a good jumping off point.
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Post by zuma on Nov 19, 2010 11:43:51 GMT -5
Actually now that I think about it, if a non-griffendor votes for me (since they would obviously not vote for themselves), it would be 2/8 chance of hitting their own team, or 25%, as opposed to a non-griffendor voting someone else at random, which would be 2/11, or 18%.
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Post by severe delays on Nov 19, 2010 13:17:30 GMT -5
To answer a couple questions. Ulla said in her rules post that there are no power roles, no night actions, and no nights. I chose Gryffendor on a whim. I know next to nothing about Harry Potter. My thought process, such as it is, is that I can't just come out and say "I am X" as then everyone is is NOT x would pile on me and vote me out day 1, which would be bad for me and hence bad for my team. But if I say "I am not Gryffendor, and hey lets go after them!" then for everyone who is NOT gryffendor, I suddenly become a bad vote target, as instead of having a 25% chance of hitting one of their own team, it goes up to 33%. Which is good for me and good for my team. Plus, I suddenly become a good target for gryffendor, and any ensuing discussion could out them. And 75% of us can agree that all gryffendor should hang. So it's a good jumping off point. You've forgotten another completely obvious option which I guess is explained by your not having read the books...everyone sees you jumping on Gryffindor for no particular reason and assumes you are Slytherin. Which is what prompted me to enquire about relative levels of knowledge* of Harry Potter. This game is going to be interesting! It's not just about the numbers but I think about levels of knowledge and how much that will help or hinder us in our deductions. *Which I realise I forgot to answer myself. I've read the books and seen the films.
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Post by Archangel on Nov 19, 2010 13:21:29 GMT -5
My thought process, such as it is, is that I can't just come out and say "I am X" as then everyone is is NOT x would pile on me and vote me out day 1, which would be bad for me and hence bad for my team. Right, and also, the people who DON'T vote you are going to be more likely to be your team, so besides just losing you, you'd probably out some members of your team.
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Post by zuma on Nov 19, 2010 13:37:10 GMT -5
My thought process, such as it is, is that I can't just come out and say "I am X" as then everyone is is NOT x would pile on me and vote me out day 1, which would be bad for me and hence bad for my team. Right, and also, the people who DON'T vote you are going to be more likely to be your team, so besides just losing you, you'd probably out some members of your team. I don't know who my team members are, and they don't know who I am. All I'm trying to do is put the dividing line between Griffendors and non-Griffendors, not "my team/not my team". I'd love to know who they are, but again, I can't say "I am team X" as then 75% of you would be safe voting for me.
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Post by zuma on Nov 19, 2010 13:44:17 GMT -5
It's not just about the numbers but I think about levels of knowledge and how much that will help or hinder us in our deductions. Unless I am grossly misreading the rules, I don't see how knowledge of Harry Potter will help or hurt anyone in this game. As there are no power roles and nobody knows who their teammates are, I see it as just 4 teams of 3. You could name them after animals, baseball teams, or whatever. I suppose you could breadcrumb which team you were on based on HP knowledge, but that's as likely to be picked up by someone not on your team as someone on it.
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Post by severe delays on Nov 19, 2010 15:24:34 GMT -5
It's not just about the numbers but I think about levels of knowledge and how much that will help or hinder us in our deductions. Unless I am grossly misreading the rules, I don't see how knowledge of Harry Potter will help or hurt anyone in this game. As there are no power roles and nobody knows who their teammates are, I see it as just 4 teams of 3. You could name them after animals, baseball teams, or whatever. I suppose you could breadcrumb which team you were on based on HP knowledge, but that's as likely to be picked up by someone not on your team as someone on it. As the numbers go down it has the potential to make a difference. Breadcrumbing will be easier if your Housemates and interested others happen to be HP-savvy and other people are not. Perhaps the students should be expelled (ex-spelled?) rather than lynched? It seems a little harsh on an 11-year-old.
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Post by Romola on Nov 19, 2010 19:16:52 GMT -5
This is hard, isn't it?
I have no idea which way to go on this, it seems you either do what zuma did and simultaneously make yourself a target and get some votes to base an idea on, or you go random.
Zuma, the one game where random makes sense and you do something else!!! I'm running with the random thing and voting Captain pinkies.
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Post by Romola on Nov 19, 2010 19:18:33 GMT -5
NETA, I've seen 5 of the films but only read one of the books, so will probably not understand any breadcrumbing of any subtlety whatsoever.
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Post by julie on Nov 19, 2010 19:52:38 GMT -5
Vote Severe Delays
Why? Hell if I know. I'd love to dress it up with some spiffy reasoning, but... I ain't got that and I might be afk a little more than usual in the next few days.
SD, if you're in my House, please don't turn me into a newt.
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Post by Total Ullz on Nov 20, 2010 7:48:58 GMT -5
This is hard, isn't it? I have no idea which way to go on this, it seems you either do what zuma did and simultaneously make yourself a target and get some votes to base an idea on, or you go random. Zuma, the one game where random makes sense and you do something else!!! I'm running with the random thing and voting Captain pinkies. He didn't make it to start
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Post by Total Ullz on Nov 20, 2010 7:52:13 GMT -5
Vote count - September (1):
Zuma (1) - Natlaw #80
Severe Delays (1) - Julie #108
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Post by Romola on Nov 20, 2010 9:33:51 GMT -5
This is hard, isn't it? I have no idea which way to go on this, it seems you either do what zuma did and simultaneously make yourself a target and get some votes to base an idea on, or you go random. Zuma, the one game where random makes sense and you do something else!!! I'm running with the random thing and voting Captain pinkies. He didn't make it to start Dammit! ok, in that case, Inner Stickler
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Post by severe delays on Nov 20, 2010 9:35:21 GMT -5
[/color][/b] Why? Hell if I know. I'd love to dress it up with some spiffy reasoning, but... I ain't got that and I might be afk a little more than usual in the next few days. SD, if you're in my House, please don't turn me into a newt.[/quote] As good a reason as any for the first month of term I suppose. If you turn out to be in my house then I'm going to give you an applepie bed. Be warned. Nobody tempts me so far. Zuma is the only one who posted anything I found interesting but that's perfectly explicable by his not having much knowledge of HP. I don't think I'll vote for him because I'd like to keep a mix of knowledgeable and not-knowledgeable in to see how my theory pans out. It will probably sink like a stone but I'll have fun trying to work out the angles. Since many of us seem to have a good amount of experience of HP I may just vote for one of the more HP-inclined ones just to try to balance things out a bit. Would anybody care to explain to me just why I shouldn't vote for them? ;D
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Post by moodymitchy on Nov 20, 2010 11:47:29 GMT -5
Vote Romola
Purely because she was the last person to vote and that's as good a reason as I can think of toDay...
Think I've seen the first film all the way through and snips of the following 2.... not read any of the books....
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Post by Romola on Nov 20, 2010 11:49:06 GMT -5
Vote RomolaPurely because she was the last person to vote and that's as good a reason as I can think of toDay... Think I've seen the first film all the way through and snips of the following 2.... not read any of the books.... Dammit, I can't even accuse you of being scummy! Grrrr!
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Post by Inner Stickler on Nov 20, 2010 11:52:48 GMT -5
He didn't make it to start Dammit! ok, in that case, Inner SticklerThis is confusing and I'm really not sure which way to vote at all.
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Post by MentalGuy on Nov 20, 2010 11:59:42 GMT -5
Without knowing what information will be provided at the end of Month, I think this first one is pretty much a crapshoot. After that there may be some opportunity for some strategic voting and unvoting.
I am going to vote
Vote: Archangel
This is just random. I have no particular reason.
Mod, are we only allowed to vote for one player at a time?
I have read all the books, and seen all the movies (well, I am seeing DH: part 1 tomorrow), but I would not consider myself an expert on them.
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Post by Archangel on Nov 20, 2010 12:53:11 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out if there is any way to make this first day not completely random. I assume we can expect twists and that they will help in some way, but right now we're all fumbling around in the dark. This voting record does no good anyway.
But no, maybe I'm wrong about that...
Total Lost, when a day ends will you be posting how many points each house has? In other words, will there be a running total?
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Post by Archangel on Nov 20, 2010 12:58:37 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I see that you already answered that question, thank you.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Nov 20, 2010 13:07:20 GMT -5
Did she? I just went back and looked and all I saw was Total saying that we'd see what information is revealed at the end of the month at the end of the month and that point totals would be given publicly.
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