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Day 6
Aug 9, 2011 20:43:18 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Aug 9, 2011 20:43:18 GMT -5
@ moodymitchy.......mind you I'm not locked into my vote and we still have some time to debate and hunt. The quietness here is not productive for Town
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Day 6
Aug 9, 2011 23:32:08 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Aug 9, 2011 23:32:08 GMT -5
Storyteller (2): Suburban Plankton, CIAS CIAS (1) : LightFoot, MoodyMitchy InnerStickler (1): Archangel
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 1:33:02 GMT -5
Post by gnarlycharlie on Aug 10, 2011 1:33:02 GMT -5
Oh, Ginger. Why didn't you kill last Night? ?? seems like gloating. this plus laying low a lot in the game makes me suspicious. however, Inner Stickler's vote yesterDay was a safe vote. it seemed he didn't want to touch the Silver Jan vs. CIAS debate and was content to let us lynch either of them. Outrun Inner Stickler
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 5:44:54 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Aug 10, 2011 5:44:54 GMT -5
Huh, that's now a three way tie. I'm not getting a comfortable feeling about this...
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 8:21:11 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Aug 10, 2011 8:21:11 GMT -5
Huh, that's now a three way tie. I'm not getting a comfortable feeling about this... Forgot to update the actual numbers again. Two seconds.
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 8:22:17 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Aug 10, 2011 8:22:17 GMT -5
Storyteller (2): Suburban Plankton, CIAS CIAS (2) : LightFoot, MoodyMitchy InnerStickler (2): Archangel, GnarlyCharlie
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 15:53:48 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Aug 10, 2011 15:53:48 GMT -5
So we have a 3-way tie, with 2 players yet to vote. Let's take a look at what we have right now:
voting for storyteller - Suburban and CIAS. Two unknowns voting for Inner Stickler - Archangel and charlie. One confirmed Town and one presumed Town (by me, at any rate) voting for CatInaSuit - LightFoot and moody. The Mason bloc.
Not voting: storyteller and Inner Stickler
I was voting Inner Stickler before Deni was mod-revealed on Day 4. I voted CatInaSuit yesterDay, and I'm voting storyteller Today. I'm pretty sure that at least two of these people are Scum, and if there are 3 Scum left I think we have all of them here.
I should be around at End of Day, and will gladly move my vote to any one of these three should it be necessary to foil any last minute hijacks. Alternatively, if the Masons come to a final agreement amongst themselves, I could hop on board their bandwagon, especially if it stays where it is now.
If I were to rank these three in order of Scumminess I'd put storyteller and CatInaSuit at 1A and 1B, and Inner Stickler at number 3.
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 20:54:23 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Aug 10, 2011 20:54:23 GMT -5
I've made cases on Storyteller and on CIaS I don't kow if I am right but voting patterns lean me towards CIaS.
I do realize we don't have much for voting patterns for Story but it's my gut. I don't know anymore than y'all do and don't want it on my head tyvm.
I played one game where the proclaimed masons refused to vote and changed their mind at the last hour. Mason's don't know any more than you* do once claimed
*generic you
I look forward to more input as possible before EOD
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 20:57:12 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Aug 10, 2011 20:57:12 GMT -5
NETA my internet is sketchy tonight. It seems to me that CIaS has had more "take out Town save possible Scum" votes. And yes I will try to research it
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:00:41 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Aug 10, 2011 22:00:41 GMT -5
16 hours left What are we gonna do here?
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:18:25 GMT -5
Post by special on Aug 10, 2011 22:18:25 GMT -5
16 hours left What are we gonna do here? Let's dance!
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:28:18 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Aug 10, 2011 22:28:18 GMT -5
16 hours left What are we gonna do here? You really want to know? Here's your answer: Lose. We're probably going to lose. It is very likely that I will eventually be lynched, if not toDay than toMorrow, and when I am the game will end. I was earnestly hoping that the Vig would kill me last Night, saving the Town the trouble of having to figure out what to do with a player with virtually no vote record. I've been earnestly reviewing everything. I've re-read the whole game in the last two days. But it's hard to get a real read on things having been mostly absent. I'm not Scum. There's really no way to convince anyone of that, though. The best I can do is fall back on the "Scum wouldn't do that" defense - and more specifically, the " I wouldn't do that as Scum" defense. And you know what? I am so pissed about the failed Vig kill last Night that I'm'a go meta-game on this one: Many of you have played with me before. Any of you who have can vouch for the following: I would consider vanishing - as I have for much of this game - bad form as Scum. As Scum, I'd have requested a sub long ago. I'm not Scum. If the Masons and Cop-confirmed can accept that, then we're in business. If not, well, I earned it by my inaction. From my perspective, if there are three Scum, then three out of the subset [CatinaSuit, Inner Stickler, gnarlycharly, Suburban Plankton] are definite Scum. I suggest the following two items: 1. From the Scum perspective, I probably appear to be a potentially very easy lynch. I have participated minimally. There has been general low-lying suspicion of me for a few Days (modest, but present). It is certain, from my perspective, that either CiaS or Plankton is Scum (since both cannot be Town). 2. It is hard for me to credit the idea of CiaS as Town. You know why? Because the Masons are both voting for him, and no one else is. If we're at lynch or lose right now, and if CiaS is Town, then a successful lynch of CiaS means game over, Scum win. And yet, no one other than the Masons has voted for him. If he's Town, why has at least one Scum not climbed on board the wagon and pushed him closer to the noose? At lynch or lose? Based on the combination of #1 and #2, my vote will probably be for CatinaSuit. But I want to keep looking. Comments on points 1 and ESPECIALLY 2 are earnestly requested.
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:33:50 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Aug 10, 2011 22:33:50 GMT -5
Might as well answer CiaS' mediocre point against me, by the way:
I did not expect to die, because I knew the Scum would not kill me and while I hoped the Vig would, I didn't expect it.
The argument that this implies I knew something, by the way, is entirely silly. What would I have known? As Scum I'd have been a target for the Vig same as I'd have been as Town. You are, I guess, suggesting that I knew that killing the Vig would obviate the Vig's kill, but considering that it is very clear that the rule in question was pulled from the deepest darkest recesses of someone's transverse colon, I'm not sure how I could have known that.
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:36:54 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Aug 10, 2011 22:36:54 GMT -5
Triple posting to say:
Of all the posts from the unknowns, gnarlycharly's reads most Townie to me.
I think the remaining Scum are CiAS, Stickler, and Plankton. In the unlikely event that only two remain, then I think Plankton's Town. In whatever time I have left, I'm going to look at a couple of major game events assuming the above to be true and see if they make any sense (the Cookies method!). I encourage everyone to do something similar - develop a hypothesis about the remaining game-state, and then take a look at key events and see whether those happenings fit with your hypothesis.
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:39:40 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Aug 10, 2011 22:39:40 GMT -5
@ Storyteller I’m sure MY comments are not the ones you are looking for (since I have addressed my thoughts today somewhat) Your points are valid and they mimic mine so I am good with my vote toDay. Can’t DRAG others into blindly following though so we shall see what transpires. ‘tis a game and each choose their paths (no regular Town player is 100% sure of anyone)
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:42:52 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Aug 10, 2011 22:42:52 GMT -5
Well, no, I'm 100% sure of you, and mitchy, and Archangel.
And yes, I am interested in your comments on my arguments; I'm kind of rushing through analysis here, with minimal time until the deadline. If there's a flaw, it'd be helpful to know about it.
I genuinely can't see why NO Scum would be voting for CiaS right now at lynch-or-lose if he were Town. It would probably only take one, plus me voting defensively, to make him swing.
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:49:47 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Aug 10, 2011 22:49:47 GMT -5
Not to mention it would be a GREAT place to hide since " I was following the Masons" is an out.
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:53:04 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Aug 10, 2011 22:53:04 GMT -5
I've made cases on Storyteller and on CIaS I don't kow if I am right but voting patterns lean me towards CIaS. I do realize we don't have much for voting patterns for Story but it's my gut. I don't know anymore than y'all do and don't want it on my head tyvm. I played one game where the proclaimed masons refused to vote and changed their mind at the last hour. Mason's don't know any more than you* do once claimed *generic you I look forward to more input as possible before EOD My play time is different than yours. In light of recent posts/theories. what sayest thou?
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:53:53 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Aug 10, 2011 22:53:53 GMT -5
wrong quote. can't delete
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:55:25 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Aug 10, 2011 22:55:25 GMT -5
So we have a 3-way tie, with 2 players yet to vote. Let's take a look at what we have right now: voting for storyteller - Suburban and CIAS. Two unknowns voting for Inner Stickler - Archangel and charlie. One confirmed Town and one presumed Town (by me, at any rate) voting for CatInaSuit - LightFoot and moody. The Mason bloc. Not voting: storyteller and Inner SticklerI was voting Inner Stickler before Deni was mod-revealed on Day 4. I voted CatInaSuit yesterDay, and I'm voting storyteller Today. I'm pretty sure that at least two of these people are Scum, and if there are 3 Scum left I think we have all of them here. I should be around at End of Day, and will gladly move my vote to any one of these three should it be necessary to foil any last minute hijacks. Alternatively, if the Masons come to a final agreement amongst themselves, I could hop on board their bandwagon, especially if it stays where it is now. If I were to rank these three in order of Scumminess I'd put storyteller and CatInaSuit at 1A and 1B, and Inner Stickler at number 3. my playtime is different than yours (I've typoed that somewhere before) In light of recent statements what sayest thou?
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 22:59:19 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Aug 10, 2011 22:59:19 GMT -5
we are only on page 2 I want to throw rocks at people
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Day 6
Aug 10, 2011 23:59:26 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Aug 10, 2011 23:59:26 GMT -5
So we have a 3-way tie, with 2 players yet to vote. Let's take a look at what we have right now: voting for storyteller - Suburban and CIAS. Two unknowns voting for Inner Stickler - Archangel and charlie. One confirmed Town and one presumed Town (by me, at any rate) voting for CatInaSuit - LightFoot and moody. The Mason bloc. Not voting: storyteller and Inner SticklerI was voting Inner Stickler before Deni was mod-revealed on Day 4. I voted CatInaSuit yesterDay, and I'm voting storyteller Today. I'm pretty sure that at least two of these people are Scum, and if there are 3 Scum left I think we have all of them here. I should be around at End of Day, and will gladly move my vote to any one of these three should it be necessary to foil any last minute hijacks. Alternatively, if the Masons come to a final agreement amongst themselves, I could hop on board their bandwagon, especially if it stays where it is now. If I were to rank these three in order of Scumminess I'd put storyteller and CatInaSuit at 1A and 1B, and Inner Stickler at number 3. my playtime is different than yours (I've typoed that somewhere before) In light of recent statements what sayest thou? I think story makes a good case against CIAS. Of course, I'd expect him to make a good argument if he were Scum too... I think that no matter who we lynch Today, assuming the game isn't over we're going to lose gnarlycharlie Tonight, since everyone who's throwing out opinions seems to be sure he's Town. So Tomorrow we're going to be right back here having the same discussion. Aw, what the hell...I thought CatInaSuit was Scum before, and I still think he's Scum now, and story's going to end up voting for him anyway...we might as well have a quorum. match pace with storyteller outrun CatInaSuitYippee-ki-yay, and all that!
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Day 6
Aug 11, 2011 9:31:21 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Aug 11, 2011 9:31:21 GMT -5
CIAS (3) : LightFoot, MoodyMitchy, Suburban Plankton InnerStickler (2): Archangel, GnarlyCharlie Storyteller (1): CIAS
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Day 6
Aug 11, 2011 10:21:07 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Aug 11, 2011 10:21:07 GMT -5
Aw, what the hell...I thought CatInaSuit was Scum before, and I still think he's Scum now, and story's going to end up voting for him anyway...we might as well have a quorum. Yippee-ki-yay, and all that! A busy day gives 15 minutes to convince everyone to vote someone else, unlikely given that stupid vote on Day 2, which everyone seems to have latched onto. Such a gimme, and I knew it was going to bite me, when I looked back on Day 3. Oh well, good game all, see everyone with spoilers tomorrow, I guess.
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Day 6
Aug 11, 2011 12:04:44 GMT -5
Post by Archangel on Aug 11, 2011 12:04:44 GMT -5
All right.
Catch up to Inner Stickler
Vote CIAS
I don't know if it'll do any good and I'm convinced Inner Stickler is scum, but if we go down, we'll go down as a team.
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Day 6
Aug 11, 2011 12:05:37 GMT -5
Post by Archangel on Aug 11, 2011 12:05:37 GMT -5
I mean,
Match Pace Inner Stickler
Outrun CIAS
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Day 6
Aug 11, 2011 12:58:08 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Aug 11, 2011 12:58:08 GMT -5
CIAS (4) : LightFoot, MoodyMitchy, Suburban Plankton, Archangel InnerStickler (1): GnarlyCharlie Storyteller (1): CIAS
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Day 6
Aug 11, 2011 22:20:15 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Aug 11, 2011 22:20:15 GMT -5
Just got home from work - from 6:30AM to 10:30PM. Fun!
No more Mafia for me for a while, obviously. I just don't have the time.
For the moment,
Outrun CatinaSuit
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Day 6
Aug 11, 2011 22:23:17 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Aug 11, 2011 22:23:17 GMT -5
CIAS (5) : LightFoot, MoodyMitchy, Suburban Plankton, Archangel, Storyteller. InnerStickler (1): GnarlyCharlie Storyteller (1): CIAS
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Day 6
Aug 11, 2011 22:58:55 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Aug 11, 2011 22:58:55 GMT -5
Hi Meeko! Just thought I'd let you know you're not alone in here
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