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Oct 17, 2011 20:06:04 GMT -5
Post by special on Oct 17, 2011 20:06:04 GMT -5
Well, to my eye, it looks like:
1. You didn't want people to suspect colby. You didn't think he deserved votes. 2. Even more so, you didn't want people to think you were defending colby 3. You asked colby a question, maybe trying to give him an out, but even more so, allowing it to appear that you're actually suspecting him in case he dies.
Smells pretty scummy to me.
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Oct 17, 2011 20:06:34 GMT -5
Post by special on Oct 17, 2011 20:06:34 GMT -5
Busy day at work, sorry I'm just now getting here. Vote: Colby [/color] It's not the slip, it's the (lack of) defense. [/quote] Bah!
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Oct 17, 2011 20:39:55 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 17, 2011 20:39:55 GMT -5
Colby's post minus the vocative works quite well as a reply to Ed's vote. So either he and bill are scummates and having an eerily similar convo on their board or he had bill on the brain and his fingers typed what was going through his head. I don't see the latter possibility as being worthy of a vote and the former makes me curious, because if it's the case, frankly, I'd rather vote for Bill. Unsportsmanlike, maybe but there you have it.
Vote: scathach for making an easy vote and slathering it in noob sauce. The colby slip strikes me as something that a scum can make a halfway decent justification for and it serves as shielding in case it's a mislynch. Coupled with the noob references, I agree that it's a rather weaksauce vote and something right up a scummy player's alley.
Peeker, no one has yet explained to me what made that drunk post scummy, and until someone does. I maintain that you simply got lucky with your suspicions.
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Oct 17, 2011 21:05:10 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Oct 17, 2011 21:05:10 GMT -5
Covering everything in one post so that I don't make 4 different posts or anything
I know how peeker plays from watching the current game on Giraffe. While this is the first game that I have played with the (fun) Peeker, I do know his playing style from that game.
The 2 problems with the theory that I would potentially bus one of my potential scum buddies are as follows: 1- I'm not scum 2- The only time I did play scum, we weren't able to talk until Night 1... so therefore I would doubt that scum would be able to talk, so therefore I could not have talked to my scum buddies (IF I WAS SCUM)
As far as the number of games that I've played, I have played in a total of 5 games so far (this being my 6th game), 2 here and 3 on Facebook. Each time, I was lynched at night except for the one time that I did play as scum. Yes, I still have the jitters about surviving, as Lightfoot as said earlier.
As far as mentioning Bill in my first post, I will repeat myself in that I have no clue how or why I made the mistake. (The only possible explanation that I can possibly give is that it was late when I made the post, plus I have that little "open mouth, insert foot" syndrome (aka I mix things up for no reason or explanation whatsoever)
I completely understand the votes that have been made against me, heck we lynched on D1 in the Zany Zoo game just because of a typo, and we lynched a vanilla town....
Meanwhile, I shall go and figure out whom I should vote, because I am not sure if I will be back in time to vote tomorrow
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Oct 17, 2011 21:42:46 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Oct 17, 2011 21:42:46 GMT -5
The 2 problems with the theory that I would potentially bus one of my potential scum buddies are as follows: 1- I'm not scum 2- The only time I did play scum, we weren't able to talk until Night 1... so therefore I would doubt that scum would be able to talk, so therefore I could not have talked to my scum buddies (IF I WAS SCUM) it is an alternate universe over here. gonna give a newb advice. i don't like you and would rather that we circle our rockers and tell the rest of you folks to fuck off. there is only 8 positions in any parchesi game. i've always played red and will do so until my jello liquifies. now let's break this down pint by pint. 1. woot the fucking woot we have a confirmed townie. hot shit one less to look at. 2. this one is problematic. the one time you were scum ... blah blah blah so therefore ignore me this time around. ok you deserve the crash course. everyone on this board would give the shirt off their back irl. but when it comes to the game we don't piss on you if you are on fire. you'll be fine if you don't get all dandered up. the first couple of games over here i figured everyone hated me. then i figured out they were just funning. it took about 8 years for me to figure out that they really did hate me. now i just hang around to piss them off. heh heh.
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Oct 17, 2011 21:56:22 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Oct 17, 2011 21:56:22 GMT -5
The 2 problems with the theory that I would potentially bus one of my potential scum buddies are as follows: 1- I'm not scum 2- The only time I did play scum, we weren't able to talk until Night 1... so therefore I would doubt that scum would be able to talk, so therefore I could not have talked to my scum buddies (IF I WAS SCUM) it is an alternate universe over here. gonna give a newb advice. i don't like you and would rather that we circle our rockers and tell the rest of you folks to fuck off. there is only 8 positions in any parchesi game. i've always played red and will do so until my jello liquifies. now let's break this down pint by pint. 1. woot the fucking woot we have a confirmed townie. hot shit one less to look at. 2. this one is problematic. the one time you were scum ... blah blah blah so therefore ignore me this time around. . Cutting as needed... The reason why I added the second point was because a few people had a theory that I had Bill on the brain because we were communicating on the scum board... so therefore I was giving a valid reason why that theory is wrong
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Oct 17, 2011 21:58:30 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Oct 17, 2011 21:58:30 GMT -5
My thoughts- I don't like Scathach's vote post to be honest, because of "Vote Colby, I guess". Being new isn't the issue for me, it's the "I guess" part that has me irked.
Apparently now I'm swissncheddar... Sounds like a yummy grilled cheese sandwich though..
Deon's post about fluff pings me as well, simply because what we have been talking about is stuff that has been posted since his post.
Peeker is being his disruptive (sometimes fun and funny) self...
Is it just me, or has Zuma and SisterCoyote been quiet? (Checking this right now)
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Oct 17, 2011 22:02:55 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Oct 17, 2011 22:02:55 GMT -5
...Each time, I was lynched at nigh.... <snipped> mofo. you have had to be a bad ass to get lynched at Night. sunuvabitch. swissncheddar has been promoted to colby i like this person. heh heh.
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Oct 17, 2011 22:11:40 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Oct 17, 2011 22:11:40 GMT -5
discomfort colby. discomfort. let's make the scum wriggle around. scum want a nice easy ride. fuck 'em let't make it bumpy.
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Oct 17, 2011 22:14:54 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Oct 17, 2011 22:14:54 GMT -5
Illustrating my last list of people that I am looking at right now... Busy day at work, sorry I'm just now getting here. Vote: Colby [/color] It's not the slip, it's the (lack of) defense. [/quote] I don't like the vote here, not because it's on me, but because it's the first post that you've made on here... I just don't like it... my only rule is to never vote peeker on day 1. it's a stupid rule, but whatever. Only post that Zuma made for the day, and really didn't bring anything to the table... Drain Bead and Zuma each have 1 post, Deon has 2 posts, and SisterCoyote has 3 posts (apparently I don't pay attention, sorry Sic C) Because of the reason listed above, Vote Drain Bead[/color]
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Oct 17, 2011 22:17:02 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Oct 17, 2011 22:17:02 GMT -5
discomfort colby. discomfort. let's make the scum wriggle around. scum want a nice easy ride. fuck 'em let't make it bumpy. Well, I might as well put my thoughts down in case they help out after I'm lynched (since I'm the lynch leader atm)
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Oct 17, 2011 22:25:11 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Oct 17, 2011 22:25:11 GMT -5
Unofficial Vote Count as for right now (with roughly 24 hours to go)
Colby- (4) Silverjan, Scathach, Sinjin, Drain Bead Peeker- (1) Mr. Special Ed Polluz Oil- (1) Honest Moley Deon- (1) MoodyMitchy Sinjin- (1) Suburban plankton Moodymitchy- (1) Peeker Scarhach- (1) Inner stickler Drain Bead- (1) Colby
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Oct 17, 2011 22:57:51 GMT -5
Post by Paranoia on Oct 17, 2011 22:57:51 GMT -5
That is roughly correct.
Also 10:00 pm CDT, tuesday the 18th is deadline.
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Oct 18, 2011 0:26:56 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 0:26:56 GMT -5
Not really sure why people see a scum slip out of Colby's first post. It was in response to Edpos's post. No idea why he said Bill instead of Ed... but whatever... that shit happens. To me it just seems like a brainfart.
What I do see the supposed slip as being, is an easy excuse for a lame vote and potentially a bandwagon.
So... out of these people... Silverjan, Scathach, Sinjin, Drain Bead.... I think DrainBead has the worst vote... and as I believe it was already pointed out... the vote is DrainBead's only vote.
so....
Vote: Vote DrainBead
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Oct 18, 2011 1:10:29 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 1:10:29 GMT -5
Oh dear, I certainly didn't mean to start a bandwagon on Colby, it was a D1 vote and the best that I could do at the time, it's nice to have more information now. I do find it interesting that a few people have jumped on it. I have made quite a few slips in my time so I do know that it can happen. It has really pinged me too that Drain Bead just jumped on the wagon like that and then left again.
Colby has come back and given a defense by saying 1) he isn't scum and 2) when he was scum he could only talk at night, in some games scum might not have been able to talk all the time but I have been in games where they could talk whenever they wanted to, it's possible that this is one of those games.
Although Drain Bead has really pinged me, I think I will keep my vote where it is, it could be scum voting for scum because Colby is the lynch leader.
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Post by Drain Bead on Oct 18, 2011 7:19:54 GMT -5
Ed, y u mad? I should have a bit more time to post today. I need to expand a bit on my drive-by vote. The slip was suspicious, but Colby's reaction to it was what put it over the edge. It basically boiled down to "Aw, shucks, I'm dumb" and seemed more like an admission of guilt. A Town player in that situation would have tried to explain what he was thinking when he made the slip. I expect more of a defense from someone who isn't guilty. This reminds me of the slip in Mystery Mafia with the number of Scum--I was pinged much more by the defense than I was by the initial slip.
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Oct 18, 2011 7:36:30 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 7:36:30 GMT -5
Geez, I feel like an idiot right now.. I was wondering why everyone was so confused... Well, I think that I should just turn in my experience card.. cause that was idiotic [/quote] This post was why I voted colby. I didn't even blink at the first post because for all I knew he knew someone IRL and was just calling him his real name. (Having similar problems with some of peekers posts actually but there you go) But the second post is just such a huge overreaction that I presumed it was some massive scum slip that he'd realised he made. That's why the I guess is in there, it's a reaction to his second post.
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Day One
Oct 18, 2011 8:02:11 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 18, 2011 8:02:11 GMT -5
Geez, I feel like an idiot right now.. I was wondering why everyone was so confused... Well, I think that I should just turn in my experience card.. cause that was idiotic This post was why I voted colby. I didn't even blink at the first post because for all I knew he knew someone IRL and was just calling him his real name. (Having similar problems with some of peekers posts actually but there you go) But the second post is just such a huge overreaction that I presumed it was some massive scum slip that he'd realised he made. That's why the I guess is in there, it's a reaction to his second post.[/quote] I don't buy the part about the "I guess" part. I don't call it a HUGE over-reaction either. Vote Scathach
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Oct 18, 2011 8:02:59 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 18, 2011 8:02:59 GMT -5
Well that didn't work...
Vote Scathach
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Oct 18, 2011 8:07:03 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 8:07:03 GMT -5
Sorry I left a hanging [ / quote ] there to confuse the unwary
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Oct 18, 2011 8:16:13 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 8:16:13 GMT -5
This post was why I voted colby. I didn't even blink at the first post because for all I knew he knew someone IRL and was just calling him his real name. (Having similar problems with some of peekers posts actually but there you go) But the second post is just such a huge overreaction that I presumed it was some massive scum slip that he'd realised he made. That's why the I guess is in there, it's a reaction to his second post. I don't buy the part about the "I guess" part. I don't call it a HUGE over-reaction either. Vote Scathach You really don't think it's an overreaction? I don't think he'd react like that to getting a name wrong unless he had something to cover up. I do think that post was meant to go somewhere else, and I don't think he'd have been as embarrassed/anxious if it was as simple as misreading someones name.
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Oct 18, 2011 9:20:54 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 18, 2011 9:20:54 GMT -5
I don't buy the part about the "I guess" part. I don't call it a HUGE over-reaction either. Vote Scathach You really don't think it's an overreaction? I don't think he'd react like that to getting a name wrong unless he had something to cover up. I do think that post was meant to go somewhere else, and I don't think he'd have been as embarrassed/anxious if it was as simple as misreading someones name. See you can look at it from two view points. I do see where if you were scum and you needed to cover something up you would react like that but it can be explained that if you are TOWN and people are starting to suspect you, you want to really get the point that you made a mistake. The thing being is that the only person that 100% knows, is Colby. I am not saying that I don't think Colby is scum, I don't know what his alignment is.
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Oct 18, 2011 9:46:44 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 9:46:44 GMT -5
See you can look at it from two view points. I do see where if you were scum and you needed to cover something up you would react like that but it can be explained that if you are TOWN and people are starting to suspect you, you want to really get the point that you made a mistake. The thing being is that the only person that 100% knows, is Colby. I am not saying that I don't think Colby is scum, I don't know what his alignment is. You can explain anything away like that! "oh but town could do that too" - sure, but it's a game of looking for scum. I have to look at what actions I think are scum motivated. I'm not saying the case on colby is 100% or anything, but it's as good as I have so far for a Day 1 vote. I'm not sure why you're so involved in trying to save Colby either. If you're so convinced he's not scum then try make a case against someone else, not just vote me because I'm voting for him. If colby does flip scum, you're next on my list.
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Oct 18, 2011 9:54:34 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 18, 2011 9:54:34 GMT -5
See you can look at it from two view points. I do see where if you were scum and you needed to cover something up you would react like that but it can be explained that if you are TOWN and people are starting to suspect you, you want to really get the point that you made a mistake. The thing being is that the only person that 100% knows, is Colby. I am not saying that I don't think Colby is scum, I don't know what his alignment is. You can explain anything away like that! "oh but town could do that too" - sure, but it's a game of looking for scum. I have to look at what actions I think are scum motivated. I'm not saying the case on colby is 100% or anything, but it's as good as I have so far for a Day 1 vote. I'm not sure why you're so involved in trying to save Colby either. If you're so convinced he's not scum then try make a case against someone else, not just vote me because I'm voting for him. If colby does flip scum, you're next on my list. Seriously? I am not defending him. I already have said that I don't know what side he is on. So please do not put words in my mouth as to that I am convinced that he is not scum. I never said such. I have even questioned Colby about his comments on Peeker. I never said that his reaction was TOWN. I basically said the argument can go either way, the exact same thing you did.
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Oct 18, 2011 10:22:02 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 18, 2011 10:22:02 GMT -5
and SisterCoyote has 3 posts (apparently I don't pay attention, sorry Sic C) No, you're right that I've been unusually quiet for me; under normal circumstances I'd have probably three times that many posts. Just haven't felt like talking much. I should have a bit more time to post today. I need to expand a bit on my drive-by vote. The slip was suspicious, but Colby's reaction to it was what put it over the edge. It basically boiled down to "Aw, shucks, I'm dumb" and seemed more like an admission of guilt. A Town player in that situation would have tried to explain what he was thinking when he made the slip. I expect more of a defense from someone who isn't guilty. Really? Because my first instinct when I've made an innocent slip that makes me look guilty is a lot like colby's was -- the "how stupid am I" and reaction. I need to go back through the Day.
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Oct 18, 2011 10:27:49 GMT -5
Post by Deni on Oct 18, 2011 10:27:49 GMT -5
I understand the votes for Colby, most scum are found by mere slips that others have noticed.
However, when I started playing on these boards I was constantly mixing up players especially those of equal caliber in playing, so I didn't think it was a big deal. I remember making a good case on someone for obvious contraditions only to discover they were 2 different people (yeah, that definitely made me look scummy). I also didn't like his first response to it but I am not sure there was a good response. I do think as town he would respond as "Oh crap... I'm an idiot" as scum he would respond as "Oh crap... I'm an idiot". I guess at this time I see this as a null tell.
I do applaud making him skirm over his error though.
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Oct 18, 2011 11:01:51 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 11:01:51 GMT -5
<FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"> <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Ed, y u mad? I should have a bit more time to post today. I need to expand a bit on my drive-by vote. The slip was suspicious, but Colby's reaction to it was what put it over the edge. It basically boiled down to "Aw, shucks, I'm dumb" and seemed more like an admission of guilt. A Town player in that situation would have tried to explain what he was thinking when he made the slip. I expect more of a defense from someone who isn't guilty. This reminds me of the slip in Mystery Mafia with the number of Scum--I was pinged much more by the defense than I was by the initial slip. Wow... So Colby get's a vote for not reacting enough... and another vote for overreacting... Well Colby, I guess no matter what you do people are gonna want to jump on that wagon. My point here is that the votes against Colby started off as "OOOOOHHH Look at that tasty slip! He's obviously scum who has been talking to Bill on another board!" But Bill came in and seems just as confused as the rest of us were... Then they went to "I bet he meant to post that on the other board all together..." The problem I see with that deduction is the fact that Paranoia has already told us that private discussions will be held through Quicktopics. It be pretty stupid and pretty hard to have to follow links to another site and then still post here. So now the votes he are getting are all "It's not what he posted, it's how he reacted to the votes he got for what he posted..." and he's getting voted for both possible reactions. All of which should be null tells anyway, but I guess when you're looking to hide a Day 1 vote this would be a good place to do it... there's just so many ways to vote for him... Then you've got this... See you can look at it from two view points. I do see where if you were scum and you needed to cover something up you would react like that but it can be explained that if you are TOWN and people are starting to suspect you, you want to really get the point that you made a mistake. The thing being is that the only person that 100% knows, is Colby. I am not saying that I don't think Colby is scum, I don't know what his alignment is. You can explain anything away like that! "oh but town could do that too" - sure, but it's a game of looking for scum. I have to look at what actions I think are scum motivated. I'm not saying the case on colby is 100% or anything, but it's as good as I have so far for a Day 1 vote. I'm not sure why you're so involved in trying to save Colby either. If you're so convinced he's not scum then try make a case against someone else, not just vote me because I'm voting for him. If colby does flip scum, you're next on my list. Which seems to me as someone who is pissed his vote is being called into question. Why is voting for you because of your weak vote against Colby a bad idea? To me it makes more sense and has a better chance of finding scum than the logic that you're using. And your last sentence really bugs me. It smells like you trying to make it a point to say "Hey! Look at me! I'm hunting scum!" Which you shouldn't have to advertise if you are actually hunting for scum. And for that matter, why would you make a jump from Colby being scum to ginger being scum. She hasn't tried to defend him... all she's done is question you for voting him... and it seems to have ruffled your feathers... which is telling. If Colby is scum, and that was a scum slip on Post 3 of Day 1, and the wagon against him has built up this much with so little time left in the Day, then it would make much more sense for a scum buddy to jump on that wagon and bus the shit out of him... or to remain quiet and cast a one-off vote. Voting against the people voting for him draws way to much attention to yourself. If Colby does flip scum, then we should be looking at people who attempted to defend him early in the Day and then got quiet about the whole thing.... or people who are placing weak votes on him toward the end of the Day when it's obvious he's going down.
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Oct 18, 2011 11:04:51 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Oct 18, 2011 11:04:51 GMT -5
I am mostly caught up, and glad to be home. Colby's slip. It has generated some discussion at any rate. The last time I was here, Bill had come in and asked, huh? I'm not sure why Colby didn't notice or register that and why it took peeker pointing it out in big letters for him to realize he had made a mistake. Geez, I feel like an idiot right now.. I was wondering why everyone was so confused... Well, I think that I should just turn in my experience card.. cause that was idiotic This seemed like an over-reaction to me, but on re-read I'm not sure if the reaction is due to his mistake or his taking so long to realize his mistake. I am not sure I find the mistake by Colby to be a scummy and warrant votes, it might be a opportunity for SCUM to get a bandwagon going... Ginger is pretty protective of Colby here, while trying to look like she's on the fence about him. I was not defending him or sweeping it under the carpet, just simply stating that I was not sure if it warranted votes after two people voted him for the confusion. Uh no, you were warning people away from voting him by calling it a scummy bandwagon. Colby, how did you know about Peeker's personality or game style to say "maybe this is a nicer peeker."? In the theory that maybe colby was talking in the SCUM thread about Bill, maybe someone told him about how peeker is. This is my first game with him and I had no idea how he was. This is a fair observation, but in light of your previous comments, it just looks like you are distancing yourself from Colby. Not really sure why people see a scum slip out of Colby's first post. It was in response to Edpos's post. No idea why he said Bill instead of Ed... but whatever... that shit happens. To me it just seems like a brainfart. What I do see the supposed slip as being, is an easy excuse for a lame vote and potentially a bandwagon. So... out of these people... Silverjan, Scathach, Sinjin, Drain Bead.... I think DrainBead has the worst vote... and as I believe it was already pointed out... the vote is DrainBead's only vote. so.... Vote: Vote DrainBead [/color][/quote] At least Paul is backing up his scum bandwagon defense of Colby with a vote here. And I agree that Drain's vote seemed to come out of left field with little justification. It is essentially the same vote for the same reason as Scathach's, but the immediacy of Scat's vote makes it seem more like someone who saw something scummy and voted it, rather than like someone who was looking for an easy place for her vote.
my only rule is to never vote peeker on day 1. it's a stupid rule, but whatever. Zuma, this is your only post??? Not voting peeker still leaves you a lot of choices here. Got anything to say about anything? (and yeah, it is probably a stupid rule)
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Oct 18, 2011 11:28:18 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 11:28:18 GMT -5
Wow... So Colby get's a vote for not reacting enough... and another vote for overreacting... Well Colby, I guess no matter what you do people are gonna want to jump on that wagon. My point here is that the votes against Colby started off as "OOOOOHHH Look at that tasty slip! He's obviously scum who has been talking to Bill on another board!" But Bill came in and seems just as confused as the rest of us were... Then they went to "I bet he meant to post that on the other board all together..." The problem I see with that deduction is the fact that Paranoia has already told us that private discussions will be held through Quicktopics. It be pretty stupid and pretty hard to have to follow links to another site and then still post here. So now the votes he are getting are all "It's not what he posted, it's how he reacted to the votes he got for what he posted..." and he's getting voted for both possible reactions. All of which should be null tells anyway, but I guess when you're looking to hide a Day 1 vote this would be a good place to do it... there's just so many ways to vote for him... This post is just complete mischaracterisation. You're taking the actions of several posters, combining it into one and then trying to draw conclusions from it? 1. Silver Jan votes Colby for a possible slip 2. I vote for Colby for his reaction to being called on the slip 3. DrainBead votes Colby for his reaction to being called on the slip You're trying to imply that there was lots of switching around and changing reasons, but there wasn't. There was three different players.
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Oct 18, 2011 11:29:59 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Oct 18, 2011 11:29:59 GMT -5
@ peekercpa... you call me, hell even vote for me because I accuse you of waffling, and state my surprise that it took you a while to comment on the "apparent" slip made by colby11 in the 3rd post of the Day.... Yet, it's not until your 9th post. That you actually comment on the post made by colby11 with reference to the "slip" asking him where the hell he got Bill from... So yes I do feel feel some surprise that for 8 posts... you never mentioned something that had happened on the 3rd post of the Day... If this makes my thinking any clearer to you then it's done it's job... if not it's probably all hot air
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