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Oct 18, 2011 15:22:55 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 15:22:55 GMT -5
Deni please vote, you always look scummy when you don't vote. Why Deni in particular... why not any of the other 6 people that haven't placed a vote yet ? I haven't read to the end yet but I had to answer this quickly, it's because I know her and I know her style and she always tries to fool me and she is doing her analysing the game thing again! I'm not sure what to make of it yet but it makes me uncomfortable.
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Post by Drain Bead on Oct 18, 2011 15:24:49 GMT -5
If you're Town, Scathach, you should be voting for self-preservation at this point. I don't understand this vote. I'm not saying it's scummy--it makes little sense for either side--but I would prefer as Town that you not do that if you are.
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Oct 18, 2011 15:31:27 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 15:31:27 GMT -5
I believe this was scathach's way of saying "I'm Town" and when I am lynched everyone will know who the real scum is. Interestingly enough this is the first post that I was pinged by scathach.Well not exactly - it was more saying that when I'm lynched I'd like people to look at paulwhoisaghost because I strongly feel he's the one driving the bandwagon by mischaracterising my posts.
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Oct 18, 2011 15:32:20 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 18, 2011 15:32:20 GMT -5
Interestingly enough this is the first post that I was pinged by scathach.You mean in the sense that he seems to be saying "Hey everybody, I'm so full of Townieness that I'm willing to sacrifice myself just to prove it to you"? Yeah, I had the same thought...maybe he really is Scum and he's hoping the sympathy card will save him. But I've never seen that ploy actually work, so I decided not to worry about it.
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Oct 18, 2011 15:34:14 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 15:34:14 GMT -5
If you're Town, Scathach, you should be voting for self-preservation at this point. I don't understand this vote. I'm not saying it's scummy--it makes little sense for either side--but I would prefer as Town that you not do that if you are. At best I'd be voting for a tie at this point? I'm actually not sure what happens then
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Oct 18, 2011 15:36:40 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 18, 2011 15:36:40 GMT -5
If you're Town, Scathach, you should be voting for self-preservation at this point. I don't understand this vote. I'm not saying it's scummy--it makes little sense for either side--but I would prefer as Town that you not do that if you are. But then wouldn't scathach get a flood of people voting for him because "self-preservation votes are Scummy"? On another topic, there's actually a Proboards app? Is it worth my $2.99 just to be able to post here more easily?
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Oct 18, 2011 15:41:51 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 15:41:51 GMT -5
I'm not happy with the bandwagon on scathach. Yes, he made a weak vote. But three other people made the same weak vote; way too much is being read into the specific verbiage he used, which is kind of surprising since the people who didn't like the way scathach phrased his post don't seem to have a problem with colby's slip that started the whole ball rolling. But you are happy with the bandwagon on Colby which was based on a lot less game logic? It's funny because your appraisal of the bandwagon in the paragraph above is very similar to the bandwagon on Colby... Let's see... I'll edit it and bold and underline the parts I changed... just for fun. Yeah, I'd say the meat and potatoes are pretty much the same... funny though, my case against Scathach had nothing to do with the waffling in his vote post... the "I guess" that everyone else seemed to take issue with. I particularly don't like Paul's vote on scathach. Paul himself stated that the later votes on colby are worse than the early votes, citing that as part of the reason he originally voted for Drain Bead. Okay, I'll give you a point here... I was mistaken about the timing of Scathach's vote. I thought it was later in the bandwagon that it was. Upon reread and a glance at the vote count, I see that I was wrong about that. But once scathach started picking up votes, that opinion seemed to change. No it didn't... it just doesn't apply to Scathach anymore. And besides, the only vote that was added to Scathach between my post about him and my vote was Pollux, which occured while I was typing up my vote post. His 3 points against scathach ( Post 160) boil down to 1. Your vote sucked (so did everybody else's, as Paul had already pointed out) 2. You overreacted to my posts (I see two whole posts from scathach that are in response to Paul...not quite the gross overexaggeration he makes out) 3. You tell Ginger she's 'on your list' without making a case against her (except that's not quite what scathach actually said) 1. Yep... I'll agree with you... there are others who have some poorly reasoned votes out there. 2. Okay... the second post was sort of a NETA... so whatever... you want to call it 2... call it 2... the point is, he fired back at my post with a lot more reaction than I would expect from a townie and then posted again with a comment that seemed to be an attempt at underminding the validity of my points without addressing them. 3. If that's not what he said, then could you please explain to me how you parsed it... since both you and he have come on but neither have explained how I was wrong... just claimed that I was mischaracterizing what he said... for the record, here's a quote of what he said... I'm not sure why you're so involved in trying to save Colby either. If you're so convinced he's not scum then try make a case against someone else, not just vote me because I'm voting for him. If colby does flip scum, you're next on my list. It looks to me like Paul is looking to find someone other than colby to lynch Today, and when an opportunity finally presented itself he was all too happy to go along with it. I don't know if he's trying to save a Scumbuddy, or if he's just trying to buy cred because he knows colby is Town, but it seems like he's quite happy for 'not colby' to be lynched. [ co lor=red]unvote sinjin[/color] [ co lor=blue]vote paulwhoisaghost[/color][/b][/quote] Yeah... I am trying to find someone other than Colby to lynch Today... because I don't see how anything Colby has done points to him being scum. I want to lynch scum... so I'm gonna vote for someone I think is acting scummy... it's pretty simple game logic. As far as you implying that I don't care who hangs as long as it's not Colby.... it's an unwarranted an empty statement. I voted DrainBead because I thought his vote was scummy... Since then Scathach has made me raise my eyebrow more than once... I now think he's the scummiest so I moved my vote. Would I be upset if Colby hangs? No... whether he is town or scum, we would get information... would I rather have someone I think is scummy hang? Yes.... we still get information and without that nasty mislynch after taste left in our mouths.
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Oct 18, 2011 15:44:18 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 15:44:18 GMT -5
Get what on record? ~~snipped~~ I believe this was scathach's way of saying "I'm Town" and when I am lynched everyone will know who the real scum is. Interestingly enough this is the first post that I was pinged by scathach.Do you know, Scathach's unvote of Colby has pinged me no end, why did she change her vote? Unvote Colby for an OMGYS vote on Paulwhoisaghost/goblin I don't like her change of vote. So I think I shall change my vote unvote Colbyvote ScathachI am still not sure if I have done the right thing and Colby is still very high on my scum list, I would rather vote for someone that I think is scummier.
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Oct 18, 2011 15:49:03 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 15:49:03 GMT -5
Do you know, Scathach's unvote of Colby has pinged me no end, why did she change her vote? Unvote Colby for an OMGYS vote on Paulwhoisaghost/goblin I don't like her change of vote. There is literally nothing I can do at this point that someone won't come up with scum reasoning for.
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Oct 18, 2011 15:51:07 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 15:51:07 GMT -5
Get what on record? ~~snipped~~ I believe this was scathach's way of saying "I'm Town" and when I am lynched everyone will know who the real scum is. Interestingly enough this is the first post that I was pinged by scathach.I get what he was trying to say... but the logic doesn't follow. He's trying to imply that if he flips town that I must be scum because I was so aggressive in wanting to lynch him. That's fine and all, except that him flipping town doesn't mean anything other than I was wrong.
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Oct 18, 2011 15:52:39 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 15:52:39 GMT -5
I believe this was scathach's way of saying "I'm Town" and when I am lynched everyone will know who the real scum is. Interestingly enough this is the first post that I was pinged by scathach.Well not exactly - it was more saying that when I'm lynched I'd like people to look at paulwhoisaghost because I strongly feel he's the one driving the bandwagon by mischaracterising my posts. Yeah... I'm driving the bus sooooo hard... you know, by being the last person to vote for you and all...
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Oct 18, 2011 15:54:38 GMT -5
Post by Deni on Oct 18, 2011 15:54:38 GMT -5
There is literally nothing I can do at this point that someone won't come up with scum reasoning for. I agree with you somewhat here. I just wanted to point out that DrainBead called you out for being anti-town, which is not the same as being scum. Your vote change to self sacrifice yourself was definitely not a smart move.
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Oct 18, 2011 15:54:52 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 15:54:52 GMT -5
I get what he was trying to say... but the logic doesn't follow. He's trying to imply that if he flips town that I must be scum because I was so aggressive in wanting to lynch him. That's fine and all, except that him flipping town doesn't mean anything other than I was wrong. Again - I never said this! I wanted to get a vote on the record because I think you're driving a bandwagon on me by deliberately casting everything I do in the worst light and I want people to look at it tomorrow. It doesn't prove anything except that I think you're the scummiest player
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Day One
Oct 18, 2011 15:55:32 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 15:55:32 GMT -5
On another topic, there's actually a Proboards app? Is it worth my $2.99 just to be able to post here more easily? Not really, there is no formatting... all text shows up black, and you have to type in all of your tags... the tags do work when typed in though.... also, (and this has no bearing on the game in progress) hidden boards don't show up and there is no access to mod level utilities... I paid for the app and used it some when I was hosting a game on the LPP site. It's worth it if you are just wanting to stay on top of the reading.... but if you are planning on relying on it as your primary access to the boards, it's a bad idea...
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Oct 18, 2011 15:55:50 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 15:55:50 GMT -5
Do you know, Scathach's unvote of Colby has pinged me no end, why did she change her vote? Unvote Colby for an OMGYS vote on Paulwhoisaghost/goblin I don't like her change of vote. There is literally nothing I can do at this point that someone won't come up with scum reasoning for. Try, why did you change your vote? I know Paulwhoisaghost/goblin intimidates me but I like to go with 1st impressions.
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Oct 18, 2011 15:58:05 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 15:58:05 GMT -5
Yeah... I'm driving the bus sooooo hard... you know, by being the last person to vote for you and all... Oh come on. It's the method I'm objecting to. I didn't object to Inners vote on me because I could see the reasoning behind it. Your posts are just rubbing me the wrong way because you're seeing everything in the complete opposite way I intend it. Maybe it's a playstyle clash or something, but I find your reasoning suspect.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:01:25 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 16:01:25 GMT -5
I get what he was trying to say... but the logic doesn't follow. He's trying to imply that if he flips town that I must be scum because I was so aggressive in wanting to lynch him. That's fine and all, except that him flipping town doesn't mean anything other than I was wrong. Again - I never said this! I wanted to get a vote on the record because I think you're driving a bandwagon on me by deliberately casting everything I do in the worst light and I want people to look at it tomorrow. It doesn't prove anything except that I think you're the scummiest player Your response pretty much says the same thing I said... you want a vote on record so that people know you think I am scummy for seeing things you are doing as scummy. You want people to look at this tomorrow. And it doesn't prove anything about my alignment just that you thought I was scummy.... Why is it you think I'm scummy again.... Oh yeah because I voted for you (OMGUS) I have been leading the bandwagon on you (Until SJ moved her vote, I was the last person to vote for you....) And I cast everything you do in a negative light (because I think your scummy) So essentially you think I'm scummy because I think you're scummy.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:05:04 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 16:05:04 GMT -5
Yeah... I'm driving the bus sooooo hard... you know, by being the last person to vote for you and all... Oh come on. It's the method I'm objecting to. I didn't object to Inners vote on me because I could see the reasoning behind it. Your posts are just rubbing me the wrong way because you're seeing everything in the complete opposite way I intend it. Maybe it's a playstyle clash or something, but I find your reasoning suspect. Do you really think Colby is scum or do you think Paulwhoisagost/goblin is scum? Paulwhoisaghostgoblin can make you think black is white and that shite tastes nice but he can find scum and if he was scum he wouldn't give himself away that quickly or easily IMO
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Oct 18, 2011 16:07:09 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 16:07:09 GMT -5
Yeah... I'm driving the bus sooooo hard... you know, by being the last person to vote for you and all... Oh come on. It's the method I'm objecting to. I didn't object to Inners vote on me because I could see the reasoning behind it. Your posts are just rubbing me the wrong way because you're seeing everything in the complete opposite way I intend it. Maybe it's a playstyle clash or something, but I find your reasoning suspect. It could be a playstyle clash... if so, I'm sorry... I'm like a dog with a bone... once I have it in my head that's someone is scummy I have a hard time seeing non-scummy reasons for their actions on my own.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:07:22 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 16:07:22 GMT -5
There is literally nothing I can do at this point that someone won't come up with scum reasoning for. Try, why did you change your vote? I know Paulwhoisaghost/goblin intimidates me but I like to go with 1st impressions. 1. The way he presented the colby votes was just wrong. He was implying that there was flip flopping and reason changing when there wasn't, there was 4 different people voting colby for their own reasons. 2. He said that the fact that DrainBead thought colby underreacted to his slip while I thought he overreacted was suspicious. Why on earth should someone else's reasoning for their own vote somehow reflect badly on me? 3. He says I smudged JustBeingGinger without giving a reason. I gave a reason, I thought she was snuggling colby, either looking for town cred if he flips town or to try protect a scum buddy. 4. He said I was being too defensive by making 3 posts in reply to his. Why would the number of posts even matter? It was just working through the points he made in his post. Is having 1 long post somehow less suspicous than 3 shorter ones?
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Oct 18, 2011 16:10:16 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 16:10:16 GMT -5
Also, I'm not sure I see how OMGUS is so scummy. Obviously I know I'm town (you guys will have to take my word for that until I'm lynched ), so it's difficult not to see scum motivation in attacking posts I made as a townie. I don't think it is OMGUS though, as I said, I didn't object to Inner's vote because it made more sense to me.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:13:12 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 16:13:12 GMT -5
Do you really think Colby is scum or do you think Paulwhoisagost/goblin is scum? Paulwhoisaghostgoblin can make you think black is white and that shite tastes nice but he can find scum and if he was scum he wouldn't give himself away that quickly or easily IMO I'd be happy with either lynch, but I changed my vote to who I think is the best lynch.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:15:52 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 16:15:52 GMT -5
Try, why did you change your vote? I know Paulwhoisaghost/goblin intimidates me but I like to go with 1st impressions. 1. The way he presented the colby votes was just wrong. He was implying that there was flip flopping and reason changing when there wasn't, there was 4 different people voting colby for their own reasons. 2. He said that the fact that DrainBead thought colby underreacted to his slip while I thought he overreacted was suspicious. Why on earth should someone else's reasoning for their own vote somehow reflect badly on me? 3. He says I smudged JustBeingGinger without giving a reason. I gave a reason, I thought she was snuggling colby, either looking for town cred if he flips town or to try protect a scum buddy. 4. He said I was being too defensive by making 3 posts in reply to his. Why would the number of posts even matter? It was just working through the points he made in his post. Is having 1 long post somehow less suspicous than 3 shorter ones? I absolutely agree with you, I still think Colby is scum but there is no way to lynch him now, 'specially since you changed your vote. I think if you had kept your first vote in place we might have got a scum. I'm really not sure what to do now though.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:18:39 GMT -5
Post by Deni on Oct 18, 2011 16:18:39 GMT -5
Also, I'm not sure I see how OMGUS is so scummy. Obviously I know I'm town (you guys will have to take my word for that until I'm lynched ), so it's difficult not to see scum motivation in attacking posts I made as a townie. but that isn't always the case. Sometimes (most of the time) town attacks one another because they don't know who is on their side. I used to think any time someone went after me it was because they were scum but in reality town doesn't know who you are scum does. It is entirely possible that both you and paulwiag are town but convinced the other is the enemy.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:19:37 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 16:19:37 GMT -5
Do you really think Colby is scum or do you think Paulwhoisagost/goblin is scum? Paulwhoisaghostgoblin can make you think black is white and that shite tastes nice but he can find scum and if he was scum he wouldn't give himself away that quickly or easily IMO I'd be happy with either lynch, but I changed my vote to who I think is the best lynch. I disagree, Colby was this lynch leader when you changed your vote, if you think they are both scum then it wasn't a good move.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:23:37 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 16:23:37 GMT -5
I disagree, Colby was this lynch leader when you changed your vote, if you think they are both scum then it wasn't a good move. I think we were tied when I moved my vote? Not that it really makes a difference surely? It's one vote, and seven people hadn't voted when I moved mine.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:29:05 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 18, 2011 16:29:05 GMT -5
1. The way he presented the colby votes was just wrong. He was implying that there was flip flopping and reason changing when there wasn't, there was 4 different people voting colby for their own reasons. 2. He said that the fact that DrainBead thought colby underreacted to his slip while I thought he overreacted was suspicious. Why on earth should someone else's reasoning for their own vote somehow reflect badly on me? 3. He says I smudged JustBeingGinger without giving a reason. I gave a reason, I thought she was snuggling colby, either looking for town cred if he flips town or to try protect a scum buddy. 4. He said I was being too defensive by making 3 posts in reply to his. Why would the number of posts even matter? It was just working through the points he made in his post. Is having 1 long post somehow less suspicous than 3 shorter ones? I absolutely agree with you, I still think Colby is scum but there is no way to lynch him now, 'specially since you changed your vote. I think if you had kept your first vote in place we might have got a scum. I'm really not sure what to do now though. So if you think Colby is SCUM why in the world did you change your vote and why did you place it on someone that you are agreeing with? Do you think Scathach is scummy or are you just throwing your vote around?
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Oct 18, 2011 16:31:58 GMT -5
Post by Deni on Oct 18, 2011 16:31:58 GMT -5
I still think Colby is scum but there is no way to lynch him now, 'specially since you changed your vote. I think if you had kept your first vote in place we might have got a scum. I'm really not sure what to do now though. Do you really think he is scum? 80% of the time your first impression is correct until someone comes along and convinces you that you are wrong. I am uncertain obviously because I haven't voted but this caught my attention and I had to comment on it.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:33:33 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 16:33:33 GMT -5
I disagree, Colby was this lynch leader when you changed your vote, if you think they are both scum then it wasn't a good move. I think we were tied when I moved my vote? Not that it really makes a difference surely? It's one vote, and seven people hadn't voted when I moved mine. With all your chat now, I am so not sure of my vote but I have been conned before! I can't see Paulwhoisaghost/goblin outing himself so early in the game, I have played with him before (get your mind out of the gutter) and he really does hunt scum, crap, unless he is scum I suppose.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:37:11 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 16:37:11 GMT -5
I still think Colby is scum but there is no way to lynch him now, 'specially since you changed your vote. I think if you had kept your first vote in place we might have got a scum. I'm really not sure what to do now though. Do you really think he is scum? 80% of the time your first impression is correct until someone comes along and convinces you that you are wrong. I am uncertain obviously because I haven't voted but this caught my attention and I had to comment on it. I still think he's scum and I am being talked out of it. For god's sake, where did the Bill come from??? Seriously. If I had read a post from PissWilly would I have answered KidColt?
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