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Oct 18, 2011 16:39:33 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Oct 18, 2011 16:39:33 GMT -5
On top of that, the voters on him tend to disagree on whether he was overreacting or underreacting to the scrutiny of his post. It's just weird to have a case built on him due to two posts and have those two posts be completely differently interpreted by people and yet they both come to the same conclusion. I have to agree that it is weird to have folk voting for the same person for diametrically opposite reasons - which may suggest that these folk are on opposite sides. I'd really like to hear more from those voting from colby, but I doubt we have time today.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:41:13 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 16:41:13 GMT -5
unvote all
Vote Colby11
I know I could be wrong but I cannot go against my instincts
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Oct 18, 2011 16:43:18 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Oct 18, 2011 16:43:18 GMT -5
I think paul is being kind of an ass here, but maybe it's just me. If you feel colby is scum vote him, at this late date there is no way to get a paul lynch. I still have not heard the scenarios that make colby calling Ed-Bill make sense. And Bill has not responded to my post about his supposedly throwing colby under the bus with his first post of the day. Which also did not make sense to me.
What ever happened to Ed, zuma, moley, peeker, sis, bill?
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Oct 18, 2011 16:45:37 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 16:45:37 GMT -5
@ BillMc, is you name really Ed? If it was it might explain things. You know the post above being from Ed and we know Ed's not his real name?
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Oct 18, 2011 16:45:52 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Oct 18, 2011 16:45:52 GMT -5
and again I miss posts whilst writing up posts and talking on the phone.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:46:59 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 18, 2011 16:46:59 GMT -5
I still think he's scum and I am being talked out of it. For god's sake, where did the Bill come from??? Seriously. If I had read a post from PissWilly would I have answered KidColt? "I am being talked out of it" is crappy, crappy reasoning. You sound like you're trying to make excuses for yourself now. You think colby is Scum. But you think scathach's vote change is Scummy. So you move your vote off of colby, then say that it's scathach's fault if colby isn't lynched? Because apparently he is responsible for your own vote change?
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Day One
Oct 18, 2011 16:48:18 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 18, 2011 16:48:18 GMT -5
NETA: Dammit! I swear this page wasn't here when I started composing my last post.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:48:46 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Oct 18, 2011 16:48:46 GMT -5
If you feel colby is scum vote him, at this late date there is no way to get a paul lynch. Fair point. unvote paulwhoisaghost vote colby
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Oct 18, 2011 16:48:55 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 16:48:55 GMT -5
I still think he's scum and I am being talked out of it. For god's sake, where did the Bill come from??? Seriously. If I had read a post from PissWilly would I have answered KidColt? "I am being talked out of it" is crappy, crappy reasoning. You sound like you're trying to make excuses for yourself now. You think colby is Scum. But you think scathach's vote change is Scummy. So you move your vote off of colby, then say that it's scathach's fault if colby isn't lynched? Because apparently he is responsible for your own vote change? Huh? Check my vote Matey
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Oct 18, 2011 16:50:43 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 18, 2011 16:50:43 GMT -5
@ BillMc, is you name really Ed? If it was it might explain things. You know the post above being from Ed and we know Ed's not his real name? Little known fact: my real first name is peeker. It's a real burden, lemme tell ya.
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Oct 18, 2011 16:51:14 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 18, 2011 16:51:14 GMT -5
Huh? Check my vote Matey Read one more post down
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Oct 18, 2011 16:52:26 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Oct 18, 2011 16:52:26 GMT -5
On top of that, the voters on him tend to disagree on whether he was overreacting or underreacting to the scrutiny of his post. It's just weird to have a case built on him due to two posts and have those two posts be completely differently interpreted by people and yet they both come to the same conclusion. I have to agree that it is weird to have folk voting for the same person for diametrically opposite reasons - which may suggest that these folk are on opposite sides. I'd really like to hear more from those voting from colby, but I doubt we have time today. OK I call bullshit on this reasoning. The only folks that vote lockstep are those who already know what others are thinking. Who would that be in a game of mafia? Town have individual reads on whats going on and typically see things differently from each other. Sometimes they're right, frequently they are wrong. And the people voting for colby have been saying a lot. There are also a lot of people who aren't saying much at all. I'ld like to here more from them. I expect better of you Bill.
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Oct 18, 2011 17:01:49 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 17:01:49 GMT -5
@ BillMc, is you name really Ed? If it was it might explain things. You know the post above being from Ed and we know Ed's not his real name? Little known fact: my real first name is peeker. It's a real burden, lemme tell ya. Dear Mr Plankton If your name was Peeker why don't you just admit to being scum and die? J/K I am allowed to joke when mY beloved husband is going into hospital tomorrow for a procedure you guys wont like
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Oct 18, 2011 17:02:14 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 17:02:14 GMT -5
I absolutely agree with you, I still think Colby is scum but there is no way to lynch him now, 'specially since you changed your vote. I think if you had kept your first vote in place we might have got a scum. I'm really not sure what to do now though. If you think he's scum, then why does it matter if he gets lynched Today or not? The fact is you would still be voting for the person you thought was scummiest... but you moved your vote to the new lynch leader as soon as the tie between Colby and Scathach ended... even though you expressed no suspicion of Scathach and even have been agreeing with him since then... and now, upon preview, I see that you have unvoted and gone back to Colby.... So I guess the question is... why did you unvote and move your vote to Scathach if you really think Colby is the scummiest player?
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Oct 18, 2011 17:02:17 GMT -5
Post by Deni on Oct 18, 2011 17:02:17 GMT -5
Unofficial Vote CountColby (4) - Silver (56)(187)(211), Scathach (59)(170)(217), sinjin (111), DrainBead (118) Scathach (4) - Inner stickler (122), JBG (137). Pollux (157), Paulsiag(160), Silver(187)(211) peeker (1) - Special Ed (1) sinjin(36)(111) Deon (1) - moodymitchy (87) Pollux Oil (1) - Honest Moley (97 moodymitchy (1) - peeker (112) DrainBead (1) - Colby (129), Paulwiag (133)(160) pauwhoisaghost (1) - scathach(170)(217), Suburban Plankton (172) guiri (0) - honest moley (16)(97) sinjin (0) - Suburban Plankton (90)(172) Abstaining (7) - texcat, Sister Coyote, Deni, zuma, lightfoot, deon, billmc Just had to do this because I got confused :
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Oct 18, 2011 17:06:08 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Oct 18, 2011 17:06:08 GMT -5
And Bill has not responded to my post about his supposedly throwing colby under the bus with his first post of the day. Which also did not make sense to me. there was nothing to respond to
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Oct 18, 2011 17:06:45 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 18, 2011 17:06:45 GMT -5
If you feel colby is scum vote him, at this late date there is no way to get a paul lynch. I disagree with this. If you feel that colby is the scummiest scum, you should vote him, yes. However, if you think paul is scummier, then you should vote him even if he doesn't get lynched today. A vote NOT on the lynch leader is NOT a wasted vote; it is evidence of where else Townie (or, for that matter, Scummy) suspicions lie. That said, I don't like either of the cases on the leaders but I need to go back to the rules post and see what happens in the event of a tie.
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Oct 18, 2011 17:08:27 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Oct 18, 2011 17:08:27 GMT -5
OK I call bullshit on this reasoning. The only folks that vote lockstep are those who already know what others are thinking. Who would that be in a game of mafia? Town have individual reads on whats going on and typically see things differently from each other. Sometimes they're right, frequently they are wrong lets vote for X because he's red lets vote for Y because he's green and you think there is nothing wrong with that? that they have completely different viewpoints but reach the same conclusions
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Oct 18, 2011 17:09:12 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 18, 2011 17:09:12 GMT -5
And Bill has not responded to my post about his supposedly throwing colby under the bus with his first post of the day. Which also did not make sense to me. there was nothing to respond to You know, I'm not really sure how an "uh?" is actually throwing colby under the bus, unless you thought you were drawing attention to his screwing up the names. Which I don't think you were; I'd read that post and was already going about it.
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Oct 18, 2011 17:10:43 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Oct 18, 2011 17:10:43 GMT -5
I absolutely agree with you, I still think Colby is scum but there is no way to lynch him now, 'specially since you changed your vote. I think if you had kept your first vote in place we might have got a scum. I'm really not sure what to do now though. If you think he's scum, then why does it matter if he gets lynched Today or not? The fact is you would still be voting for the person you thought was scummiest... but you moved your vote to the new lynch leader as soon as the tie between Colby and Scathach ended... even though you expressed no suspicion of Scathach and even have been agreeing with him since then... and now, upon preview, I see that you have unvoted and gone back to Colby.... So I guess the question is... why did you unvote and move your vote to Scathach if you really think Colby is the scummiest player? Because I thought her unvote of Colby was very scummy! So at the time I thought she was the scummiest player to unvote what I thought my scummiest player was so I voted for her her because she unvoted my scummiest player, then I unvoted her and revoted my scummiest player which was Colby!
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Oct 18, 2011 17:13:20 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 17:13:20 GMT -5
I have to agree that it is weird to have folk voting for the same person for diametrically opposite reasons - which may suggest that these folk are on opposite sides. I'd really like to hear more from those voting from colby, but I doubt we have time today. OK I call bullshit on this reasoning. The only folks that vote lockstep are those who already know what others are thinking. Who would that be in a game of mafia? Town have individual reads on whats going on and typically see things differently from each other. Sometimes they're right, frequently they are wrong. And the people voting for colby have been saying a lot. There are also a lot of people who aren't saying much at all. I'ld like to here more from them. Yeah... but it's odd that two people came to the same conclusion for opposite reasons... not different reasons... opposite reasons... both Scathach and DB casted their votes based on Colby's reaction... one for not reacting enough... and one for overreacting... You imply that if they agreed it would be suspicious and you would think they were both scum...(At least that's how I parsed "The only folks that vote lockstep are those who already know what others are thinking. Who would that be in a game of mafia?") Well, if they are agreeing for opposite reasons, wouldn't that make them on separate teams? By your logic, shouldn't you think one of them is scum? And the people voting for Colby haven't been saying a lot. Scathach has... but Silverjan just came along and started talking..... and you didn't come back around until after Bill's comment, and DrainBead hasn't really been here at all. But I agree there are a lot of people in general who aren't really talking... and would also like to hear from everyone.
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Day One
Oct 18, 2011 17:14:14 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 18, 2011 17:14:14 GMT -5
A vote NOT on the lynch leader is NOT a wasted vote; it is evidence of where else Townie (or, for that matter, Scummy) suspicions lie. lets vote for X because he's red lets vote for Y because he's green <major snippage above> Any chance that any of you folks might actually place a vote Today? Or are you just going to talk about them? No hurry, of course...we've got almost 5 hours left... I'd ask the same question to the other 4 people who haven't voted, but I'm not sure they're even still on the planet.
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Oct 18, 2011 17:19:37 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 18, 2011 17:19:37 GMT -5
Because I thought her unvote of Colby was very scummy! So at the time I thought she was the scummiest player to unvote what I thought my scummiest player was so I voted for her her because she unvoted my scummiest player, then I unvoted her and revoted my scummiest player which was Colby! Is this supposed to make actual sense? Or am I supposed to squint at this post, and then I'll see one of those 3-D pictures of dragons circling over a fairy tale castle?? ;D
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Oct 18, 2011 17:20:23 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Oct 18, 2011 17:20:23 GMT -5
OK I call bullshit on this reasoning. The only folks that vote lockstep are those who already know what others are thinking. Who would that be in a game of mafia? Town have individual reads on whats going on and typically see things differently from each other. Sometimes they're right, frequently they are wrong lets vote for X because he's red lets vote for Y because he's green and you think there is nothing wrong with that? that they have completely different viewpoints but reach the same conclusions That's not even close to an analogy of what's been claimed. It's more like: I mistrust you because you feel more X to me. and I mistrust you because you feel less X to me. And I can certainly find in the every day world two people who would feel the above about any given individual.
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Oct 18, 2011 17:23:52 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Oct 18, 2011 17:23:52 GMT -5
And Bill has not responded to my post about his supposedly throwing colby under the bus with his first post of the day. Which also did not make sense to me. there was nothing to respond to OK, to be more clear: How exactly did you attempt to throw colby11 under the bus with your first post of "uh?"
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Oct 18, 2011 17:24:08 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 18, 2011 17:24:08 GMT -5
Because I thought her unvote of Colby was very scummy! So at the time I thought she was the scummiest player to unvote what I thought my scummiest player was so I voted for her her because she unvoted my scummiest player, then I unvoted her and revoted my scummiest player which was Colby! Is this supposed to make actual sense? Or am I supposed to squint at this post, and then I'll see one of those 3-D pictures of dragons circling over a fairy tale castle?? ;D Actually, now that I've read this a few more times, it does make sense. (and the dragons are pretty!) But it still begs the question: Why did you unvote colby in the first place if you thought he was the Scummiest player, and then try to blame scathach for it?
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Oct 18, 2011 17:24:11 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 18, 2011 17:24:11 GMT -5
OK I call bullshit on this reasoning. The only folks that vote lockstep are those who already know what others are thinking. Who would that be in a game of mafia? Town have individual reads on whats going on and typically see things differently from each other. Sometimes they're right, frequently they are wrong lets vote for X because he's red lets vote for Y because he's green and you think there is nothing wrong with that? that they have completely different viewpoints but reach the same conclusions Actually this is kind of off. What you made is an example of two people voting for two different people for two different reasons... what we have is two people voting for the same person for opposite reasons... a more applicable example would be: Player A has no hands. Player B votes for Player A because he isn't left handed. Player C votes for Player A because he isn't right handed.
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Oct 18, 2011 17:25:17 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Oct 18, 2011 17:25:17 GMT -5
NETA: theoretically
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Oct 18, 2011 17:25:48 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 18, 2011 17:25:48 GMT -5
OK, to be more clear: How exactly did you attempt to throw colby11 under the bus with your first post of "uh?" Was that before or after he stopped beating his wife?
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Post by Drain Bead on Oct 18, 2011 17:26:27 GMT -5
I've had a much busier day than I anticipated. Off to my kid's swimming lesson, and I hope to catch up with this thread about an hour before EOD.
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