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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 15, 2012 14:54:17 GMT -5
Idle:how often do you update votes, and check your PM's. As often as I can,...but whenever I'm sleeping it will go for pages without being updated. . On the Roles post it is said that there will be a secret number of Detectives. Since the term Detectives is in the plural form, does it mean the secret number is at least 2 (meaning there is at least one more Detective other than Francescaj)? Can't tell you that. Vote Count: Special Ed - 4 votes (cassiepietz, lianne, Mchelle71, PhoenixPhyre) michelehunter - 3 votes (Mr Special Ed, jmj697mn, Mahaloth) Lianne - 3 votes (guiri, Total Ullz, dizzymrslizzy) Cassiepietz - 2 votes (Gadarene, Pleonast) Laxrules - 2 votes (Meeko, colby11) Supermel - 1 vote (Laxrules)
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Post by Silver Jan on May 15, 2012 14:58:51 GMT -5
I do remember a glitch in the game though, I couldn't get in and I managed to get in through Facebook, with silverjan as my username. on idle though my name has always been janetsinton. Tonight I have my pretty "Ed' colours.
Do you really think I would try something as confusing as this as scum, to put myself on the radar?
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Post by kagemoto on May 15, 2012 15:23:05 GMT -5
I do remember a glitch in the game though, I couldn't get in and I managed to get in through Facebook, with silverjan as my username. on idle though my name has always been janetsinton. Tonight I have my pretty "Ed' colours. Do you really think I would try something as confusing as this as scum, to put myself on the radar? Silver Jan/silverjan, I do not care if you use 10 or 20 usernames, or if your color is Silver or Red or Yellow or Rainbow or colorless. The point is that we have to know which posts are made by you. Knowing that there is a silverjan and a Silver Jan, no one knows if these 2 accounts represent the same player. As long as you admit that you have made all the posts under both accounts, it should not be confusing. It surely would be better if you can use only one account to avoid further confusion. Another thing interesting: I was searching for silverjan's posts, and there were many. However the account of silverjan shows that the post number is only 3. Weird.
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Post by ascime on May 15, 2012 15:31:37 GMT -5
Question: If there are only two special roles, and there was one detective and one "vigilante", would that count as both of the two special roles? Or is it possible to have more than one of each?
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Post by Silver Jan on May 15, 2012 15:38:06 GMT -5
I do remember a glitch in the game though, I couldn't get in and I managed to get in through Facebook, with silverjan as my username. on idle though my name has always been janetsinton. Tonight I have my pretty "Ed' colours. Do you really think I would try something as confusing as this as scum, to put myself on the radar? Silver Jan/silverjan, I do not care if you use 10 or 20 usernames, or if your color is Silver or Red or Yellow or Rainbow or colorless. The point is that we have to know which posts are made by you. Knowing that there is a silverjan and a Silver Jan, no one knows if these 2 accounts represent the same player. As long as you admit that you have made all the posts under both accounts, it should not be confusing. It surely would be better if you can use only one account to avoid further confusion. Another thing interesting: I was searching for silverjan's posts, and there were many. However the account of silverjan shows that the post number is only 3. Weird. Sorry but I cannot explain it, the only thing in my tiny brain is that I couldn't get into the sight on one day and I found another login site on Facebook. Seriously, if I was scum, do you think I would do something so whacked. I know LightFoot was scum but she probably hadn't realised either. I know scum can be cunning but having 2 usernames on the same board??? even the Mod would kill you for that. This is really upsetting me. The "silverjan" posts "3 of them'" were probably when I logged in otherways. [ color=Green]Chris you have to help me here[/color][/b]
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Post by Gadarene on May 15, 2012 15:41:14 GMT -5
Question: If there are only two special roles, and there was one detective and one "vigilante", would that count as both of the two special roles? Or is it possible to have more than one of each? They will be two separate roles, given to two separate people.
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Post by Silver Jan on May 15, 2012 15:41:37 GMT -5
I do remember a glitch in the game though, I couldn't get in and I managed to get in through Facebook, with silverjan as my username. on idle though my name has always been janetsinton. Tonight I have my pretty "Ed' colours. Do you really think I would try something as confusing as this as scum, to put myself on the radar? Silver Jan/silverjan, I do not care if you use 10 or 20 usernames, or if your color is Silver or Red or Yellow or Rainbow or colorless. The point is that we have to know which posts are made by you. Knowing that there is a silverjan and a Silver Jan, no one knows if these 2 accounts represent the same player. As long as you admit that you have made all the posts under both accounts, it should not be confusing. It surely would be better if you can use only one account to avoid further confusion. Another thing interesting: I was searching for silverjan's posts, and there were many. However the account of silverjan shows that the post number is only 3. Weird. I wasn't trying to use 2 accounts, I don't know what happened. And now I am not looking for scum I am defending myself grrrr
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Post by Gadarene on May 15, 2012 15:41:43 GMT -5
I really don't think the Silver Jan thing is that fruitful to keep pursuing. I'm satisfied with her explanation.
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Post by Mahaloth on May 15, 2012 15:49:34 GMT -5
The whole silverjan 2 account thing seems like a red herring. I believe Jan and thing it'd be a dumb scum move to pull. Total distraction talk.
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Post by loopylisa on May 15, 2012 15:51:21 GMT -5
ok.read all the posts and there are quite a few people who could be classed as vote worthy.....so if a seasoned, or even slightly older than me,player can explain how i tell between people who have genuine suspicions and those who are trying to kill off townies it would be really helpful.ive read posts and some people at first seem a little off but then we get explanations or someone defends it and it seems that voting that way would be wrong.i dont want to be killing off people we shouldnt be...hoping that didnt make me sound like a total dunce
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Post by Silver Jan on May 15, 2012 15:59:32 GMT -5
Thanks guys, I need to get to the bottom of it though. It really is pissing me off.
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Post by lauriern on May 15, 2012 16:00:41 GMT -5
We could have a redirector as one of the secret role (wasn't this brought up before toDay??) Someone mentioned a redirector before. What does this person do?
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Post by Silver Jan on May 15, 2012 16:09:23 GMT -5
ok.read all the posts and there are quite a few people who could be classed as vote worthy.....so if a seasoned, or even slightly older than me,player can explain how i tell between people who have genuine suspicions and those who are trying to kill off townies it would be really helpful.ive read posts and some people at first seem a little off but then we get explanations or someone defends it and it seems that voting that way would be wrong.i dont want to be killing off people we shouldnt be...hoping that didnt make me sound like a total dunce I would love to be able to help you, I have been playing for just over a year and I cannot tell you what scum will do. It's a nit picking game and no one is ever right, except scum cos they know who we all are, except for the power roles. My advice is vote for whom you feel is scum and make a case. Your case is most likely wrong but we learn a lot about deaths of Townies. So far, we know/think there is an old player on the scum team. We know/think Town has a Vig. Nothing is ever black and white until the game is over.
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Post by loopylisa on May 15, 2012 16:14:21 GMT -5
ok so its a case of reading and maybe gut instincts coming into play???from the posts i gather that an old player being on the scum team means they know what they are doing and how to go about things.ill keep reading posts etc and try to get a feeling of the people who are posting.thanks very much for the advice
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:15:27 GMT -5
Thanks - nice to be seen again It appears that our mafia-wiki is gone This makes me very sad. I really spend a lot of time trying to keep it updated. Anyway - just to introduce myself: I am Danish and this might show in my very personalized why of phrasing things and spelling words Also I love to play mafia and do it when ever I have the time. That is just really not often enough. But Idle asked me to come and play and who can say no to Idle I think the best way for a vanilla townie about to be mis-lynched is to ignore the votes on them and instead just post as many as their ideas and theories about other players. We can't know if they are right - but after the lynch at least we will know that their motivation was a townie-one. Still reading Day 1 and will try to put something together as soon as I've finish celebrating myself on mothers-day ;D Hold on a second. Mchlle71 messed up her quote of Total Ullz. Ullz is the one who said she loves playing mafia and plays whenever she can. Ullz's original post is quoted above, then mchlle71's misquote and Mr Special Ed's post is quoted next. Ed, was this an innocent misreading of Mchlle71s misquote? You would not take advantage of the quote confusion and try to start a bandwagon on Mchlle71, would you? [/quote] oh, that makes more sense. I had gone through mchlle 71's post be clicking on her profile. I didn't know it was a quote since it wasn't in a quote.
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:16:56 GMT -5
Hold on a second. Mchlle71 messed up her quote of Total Ullz. Ullz is the one who said she loves playing mafia and plays whenever she can. Ullz's original post is quoted above, then mchlle71's misquote and Mr Special Ed's post is quoted next. Ed, was this an innocent misreading of Mchlle71s misquote? You would not take advantage of the quote confusion and try to start a bandwagon on Mchlle71, would you? goodness gracious. I didn't start any bandwagons. I've found suspicious posts, pointed them out, and voted. That's how you play the game. It's not my fault people agree with me. Went back & looked at both of their posts myself. I feel comfortable that Mchlle71's post was actually a misquote of Total Ulla's post. However, this does make me now question Ed. Bandwagon starting seems to be his Modus Operandi?? Can any of the experienced players please enlighten the rest of us?
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:19:27 GMT -5
Ed and I are also not nearly as good as Bill is, in my estimation (and probably in the scum's estimation as well). No offense to Ed, of course. no problem. I suck. last time I checked my record was 19-30
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:20:37 GMT -5
/snip Did they? Did scum also kill Sister Coyote? And Francesca? And lightfoot? And 14 of the 15 votes starrain? At this point all I can do is assume that scum killed all 4 of them. None of us know for sure what other roles there are. There will be 5 power roles in this game. Only five, no others. 1. There will be a secret number of Detectives. 2. There will be a secret number of Doctors. 3. There will be a secret number of Masons. 4 and 5: There will be two secret roles (two of one and one of the other). I have no clue what a Mason is/does, and we don't know yet what the secret roles are. All I know for absolute sure is that scum kill at night so I'm making an assumption here.....for now. I will say I'm not dumb enough to think that scum killed Lightfoot, but at this point I don't know the circumstances of how she died. Well, that rules you out as a Mason. More information for the Scum, if you're Town.
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:21:28 GMT -5
Back to lianne So if you don't think that their helpfulness was the reason that the scum should have killed them then what reasoning DO you believe scum have to kill them? I think Scum want to kill Town. Periode. But if they can catch a Power Role like Doc or Cop they will go for that kill. if they have a confirmed Town (mason) they will want to kill as well - but not if that will confirm yet another Town player. I also know (from past games) that Scum will kill at Night out of paranoia (he voted me), to incriminate someone (they will think X was killed because she votes Y), to kill cleaver players (like Bill) or to leave them alive to say the next Day "see Bill lived - so he must be Scum". And to add to that there is also the IRL-things - like Scum picked a player in panic to get the Nk in and so on and so on. Get it? Scum will totally do that and there is no way of knowing why until you get to the spoilers. (unless if you're Scum <-- see what I just did? That was a smudge. I never said you *were* Scum. But I did imply and others might have picked up on that. No even realizing where they got the first "gut feeling" from.) I would kill bill if he had a cleaver as well.
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:24:27 GMT -5
Gadarene I said in #158, that I don't think that scum killed Lightfoot. I also know that Town Vigilantes were discussed, but that doesn't guarantee that's one of the roles. Yes, that sounds like a very plausible explination, but how do you know that FOR SURE? I don't know how many "other" roles there are in this game or what the standard roles are, so I'm just keeping my mind open until I have more than n=1 experience to go by. Here's what I believe: 1. Scums would not kill a scum at Night, and 2. Town Vanilla (or Town with no power, you know what it means) cannot kill at Night. Also, according to the MOD, there are only 2 teams in this game, no third parties. Thus it can't be more obvious that Lightfoot, a scum, was killed by a Town Power Role in Night 1. While the Power Role is not necessarily called "Vigilante", it does not really matter what the name of the Power Role is. The term "Vigilante" is a well-known Power Role that can perform kills, and even if Idle decides to use another name for the role, it would be essentially the same role as the Vigilante. Unless you want to argue that Lightfoot was killed by a scum or a Town Vanilla, I really don't see the possibility that there is NO Vigilante in this game. While not a simple role, the lover/sibling could also account for Lightfoot's death.
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:27:40 GMT -5
The whole silverjan 2 account thing seems like a red herring. I believe Jan and thing it'd be a dumb scum move to pull. Total distraction talk. What bothers me about it is that lightfoot did so as well. If Idle has the Scumboards on here, they may have been uncertain that their post counts or visibility might show they were active on a hidden scumboard (It wouldn't) and so created/used new accounts for posting to the Scumboard.
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:28:36 GMT -5
ok.read all the posts and there are quite a few people who could be classed as vote worthy.....so if a seasoned, or even slightly older than me,player can explain how i tell between people who have genuine suspicions and those who are trying to kill off townies it would be really helpful.ive read posts and some people at first seem a little off but then we get explanations or someone defends it and it seems that voting that way would be wrong.i dont want to be killing off people we shouldnt be...hoping that didnt make me sound like a total dunce Please don't edit your posts. It is against the rules. If tehre was a simple way to determine if someone was honest Town or lying Scum, the game wouldn't be very challenging, would it?
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:30:20 GMT -5
crap, I commented into the middle of a quote. My words are highlighted and bolded goodness gracious.
I didn't start any bandwagons. I've found suspicious posts, pointed them out, and voted.
That's how you play the game. It's not my fault people agree with me.Went back & looked at both of their posts myself. I feel comfortable that Mchlle71's post was actually a misquote of Total Ulla's post. However, this does make me now question Ed. Bandwagon starting seems to be his Modus Operandi?? Can any of the experienced players please enlighten the rest of us?
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Post by Idle Thoughts on May 15, 2012 16:31:05 GMT -5
ok.read all the posts and there are quite a few people who could be classed as vote worthy.....so if a seasoned, or even slightly older than me,player can explain how i tell between people who have genuine suspicions and those who are trying to kill off townies it would be really helpful.ive read posts and some people at first seem a little off but then we get explanations or someone defends it and it seems that voting that way would be wrong.i dont want to be killing off people we shouldnt be...hoping that didnt make me sound like a total dunce As Ed said...don't edit your posts.
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:32:16 GMT -5
The whole silverjan 2 account thing seems like a red herring. I believe Jan and thing it'd be a dumb scum move to pull. Total distraction talk. What bothers me about it is that lightfoot did so as well. If Idle has the Scumboards on here, they may have been uncertain that their post counts or visibility might show they were active on a hidden scumboard (It wouldn't) and so created/used new accounts for posting to the Scumboard. And lightfoot's first post with new sign-on was to confirm in Day 0. Why do I feel so dirty for metagaming like this?
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Post by loopylisa on May 15, 2012 16:32:37 GMT -5
i was simply asking advice.......i did not know that editing posts is against the rules thank you for informing me.i wasnt asking for anyone to tell me the answers just some things people have learnt along the way that will mean i dont make rookie mistakes that will mean we lose!
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Post by special on May 15, 2012 16:33:13 GMT -5
i was simply asking advice.......i did not know that editing posts is against the rules thank you for informing me.i wasnt asking for anyone to tell me the answers just some things people have learnt along the way that will mean i dont make rookie mistakes that will mean we lose! read the thread. Many of us have been giving sound advice all game.
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Post by Gadarene on May 15, 2012 16:33:44 GMT -5
The whole silverjan 2 account thing seems like a red herring. I believe Jan and thing it'd be a dumb scum move to pull. Total distraction talk. What bothers me about it is that lightfoot did so as well. If Idle has the Scumboards on here, they may have been uncertain that their post counts or visibility might show they were active on a hidden scumboard (It wouldn't) and so created/used new accounts for posting to the Scumboard. If they were that paranoid, they probably wouldn't use their regular screen names on the scum board. Hell, Arkham had an off-board scum board and I still felt paranoid enough to log in there as "oracle" instead of anything traceable back to me.
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Post by loopylisa on May 15, 2012 16:37:07 GMT -5
thanks very much ill re read what i didnt understand again....
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Post by Silver Jan on May 15, 2012 16:48:59 GMT -5
The whole silverjan 2 account thing seems like a red herring. I believe Jan and thing it'd be a dumb scum move to pull. Total distraction talk. What bothers me about it is that lightfoot did so as well. If Idle has the Scumboards on here, they may have been uncertain that their post counts or visibility might show they were active on a hidden scumboard (It wouldn't) and so created/used new accounts for posting to the Scumboard. Do you think Idle is stupid?
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