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Post by guiri on May 23, 2012 15:49:40 GMT -5
texcat, do you think that by Tomorrow or Day 14 your posts will be more informative? I have been patiently awaiting your input on who may or may not be scum, yet your last thought about anyone, other than endhoot, seems to be Suburban and their random vote on dizzy back in D1. TOWN obviously aren't gaining much insight on the Day since people don't seem to want to share their opinions. I'm not trying to be mean, but honestly where is the town mentality here? I see you vote to end Day now, without not a thought on whom else we should be considering. I did take note of the fact that you have a real life and weren't able to play for a bit. But N2, you say you will post more thoughts Tomorrow, yet you fall right in with the crowd, not to mention the subtle pushing about people revealing their roles. Then slip back in to vote end day, with STILL no other suspects. Isn't it some kind of a scum tell to not actually hunt scum? Smudging...a lil perhaps, but I do believe you to be on the scummy side. I welcome thoughts and comments. I agree. Her earlier comment to Hal is also suspect: Hal, a fine job, but could you tell us why you waited until Today to announce your results? It seems you could have prevented a mislynch Yesterday? It reads like sore scum, just getting a jab in for the sake of it. Vote TexCatFOS annem for her #60.
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Post by jerelijah on May 23, 2012 15:56:56 GMT -5
Where ARE your priorities!?!? This is Mafia Games!! Congrats on the impending degree! Tell me about it. I mean how dare I think of ways to feed my family that get in the way of Mafia. LOL Thanks for the congrats.
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Post by Meeko on May 23, 2012 15:58:01 GMT -5
meeko, why in the world would you ever vote for yourself? Now I would like you to explain as I'm trying to learn to play I'm not sure of your meaning here. 1. Are you asking me personally? 2. Are you asking this of a town player in This game? Or 3.Are you asking in general? 1. The game I did it in, was a Halloween themed Game. I'd probably need to re-read my entire performance in that game to get the full context. IIRC, I had used my power for that game on the first night, and was paranoid as hell for the rest of the game. I had a post restriction, and I believe I forwarded the gambit that it was better to vote for me, who was at the time, virtually vanilla, than to randomly guess. I led the charge for my own lynch, and it went beyond sideways from there. The moral of the story, it doesn't pay to play a Mime in Mafia.2. I'm not going to do that in this game. This game is very cut and dry compared to how "out there" Mafia can get. I just wanted to posit that people HAVE voted for themselves in games before. 3. Such as SisterCoyote. Her signature includes : Yes, Virginia, sometimes you do have to vote to lynch yourself.IIRC the game in which she did this, she was a Compulsory Town Vigilante. She HAD to kill each night. The numbers of the game reduced down to a point where she figured it was not worth it for her to HAVE to kill each night, as she would probably, most definately kill town. Ergo, if she was the lynch, her Vigging would stop. I could have some of this wrong, as it was told to me upon my asking.
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Post by starrirain on May 23, 2012 16:01:59 GMT -5
-bleached- texcat, do you think that by Tomorrow or Day 14 your posts will be more informative? I have been patiently awaiting your input on who may or may not be scum, yet your last thought about anyone, other than endhoot, seems to be Suburban and their random vote on dizzy back in D1. TOWN obviously aren't gaining much insight on the Day since people don't seem to want to share their opinions. I'm not trying to be mean, but honestly where is the town mentality here? I see you vote to end Day now, without not a thought on whom else we should be considering. I did take note of the fact that you have a real life and weren't able to play for a bit. But N2, you say you will post more thoughts Tomorrow, yet you fall right in with the crowd, not to mention the subtle pushing about people revealing their roles. Then slip back in to vote end day, with STILL no other suspects. Isn't it some kind of a scum tell to not actually hunt scum? Smudging...a lil perhaps, but I do believe you to be on the scummy side. I welcome thoughts and comments. I agree. Her earlier comment to Hal is also suspect: Hal, a fine job, but could you tell us why you waited until Today to announce your results? It seems you could have prevented a mislynch Yesterday? It reads like sore scum, just getting a jab in for the sake of it. Vote TexCatFOS annem for her #60. I agree! I was just thinking in the shower about that statment texcat made...how could Hal have know he would prevent a mislynch, being that to my understanding a detective gets to investigate one suspect a night, and he had investigated 2 scum in the 2 nights he had to do so. Thus, there is no way he could have known mchlle71 was not scum since he had not had the chance to investigate her, why on earth would he blow his cover before nightfall for that texcat?
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Post by kagemoto on May 23, 2012 16:07:10 GMT -5
I'm not worried about being lynched toDay, I am worrying about 2 people making cases against me toDay. Tomorrow you might look at them and say "yeah lets lynch Silver Jan 'cos XYZ made a case yesterday" I just should have kept my mouth shut altogether. Please look very carefully at the people that want to lynch me, if I survive the Night. SilverJan seems very worried that Scum will NightKill her. Ergo, she's trying to say she's not just Town, but "important" Town. But why would she draw this attention to herself multiple times? This strikes me as odd - if she's PowerTown, then Scum will likely try to kill her toNight. BUT, if she's Scum, she may be trying to fish for a Doctor's protection, so that she can share something later on, so that the Doctor is unable to protect Hal, who we're very close to believing is PowerTown - a Detective. I call Scum trying to fake a power role to pull the Doctor's protection. vote SilverJan I'm not sure if this deserves a vote. Although I can't do anything with other player's vote, I think the reason behind this vote is questionable. I do agree that Silver Jan was hinting that she is a Power Town, because there is no other explanation that she worries about a Nightkill. However, there was no explicit claim, and she did not ask the Doctors to protect her (at least not yet). Moreover, even if we take the hint as a Power Town claim, this is not the first claim in this game. Pleonast in Day 0, Garanede and Michelehunter #1 in Day 2, and Hal in Day 3 have also claimed Town Power Roles. I'm not sure if Pleonast got any protection, but apparently Garanede and Michelehunter #1 did not get any protection in Night 2. Thus, the "fishing for Doctor's protection" theory is flawed because a Power Role claim does not always get you protection, as evidenced by the 2 Nightkilled players. Finally, we know that the 4 confirmed Power Roles in this game are Doctors, Detectives, Masons and Crazy, and the fifth Power Role is likely Town Vig. Hal claimed Detective, which is a very useful Power Role at this point of the game, and if a Doctor would protect someone else over a Detective, the "someone else" has to be more important than the Detective. You may disagree with me, but with 48 players still in the game, I do not see any other Power Roles more important than the Detectives now. You can make arguments that the Vigs or the Doctors are also important, but they are not necessarily more useful than the Detectives at this point. Vig's power may create mis-Nightkills, and Doctor's power may be used to protect wrong players. However, all investigation results provided by the Detectives would be useful. In other words, I don't see any reason (at least not for now) that the Doctors would give up Hal to protect someone else. This does not mean I believe Silver Jan. In fact, I think there is nothing to believe in with or not to believe in with - what she did was more of breadcrumbing and less of a claim. Unless she later explicitly claims a Role, I don't think there is any reason to give the breadcrumbing a closed look. At least not now.
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Post by kagemoto on May 23, 2012 16:07:46 GMT -5
I really want to answer all of your comments but this will most likely get me NK'd as could this post but I am frustrated now. This is kinda like pleading the fifth. That is, just for saying as much, you will probably get NK'd Elsewhere, you said there was a breadcrumb? I don't see the value in this, unless you are going to reveal where it was / how to read it. Meeko, what does "pleading the fifth" mean?
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Post by kagemoto on May 23, 2012 16:18:05 GMT -5
This is kinda like pleading the fifth. That is, just for saying as much, you will probably get NK'd Elsewhere, you said there was a breadcrumb? I don't see the value in this, unless you are going to reveal where it was / how to read it. Meeko, what does "pleading the fifth" mean? Nevermind. I googled it and I believe I found the answer.
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Post by Silver Jan on May 23, 2012 16:22:00 GMT -5
-bleached- I agree. Her earlier comment to Hal is also suspect:It reads like sore scum, just getting a jab in for the sake of it. Vote TexCatFOS annem for her #60. I agree! I was just thinking in the shower about that statment texcat made...how could Hal have know he would prevent a mislynch, being that to my understanding a detective gets to investigate one suspect a night, and he had investigated 2 scum in the 2 nights he had to do so. Thus, there is no way he could have known mchlle71 was not scum since he had not had the chance to investigate her, why on earth would he blow his cover before nightfall for that texcat? Just my opinion, Hal knew on D2 that there would be a mislynch, he didn't want to out himself as a detective, on D2 he guessed right and gave Michele a choice, except if you look back, players were voting for Endhoot because Michele killed XYZ and she didn't have a choice, people were voting for EndHoot. Wacked theories but....
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Post by starrirain on May 23, 2012 16:50:48 GMT -5
-bleached- I agree! I was just thinking in the shower about that statment texcat made...how could Hal have know he would prevent a mislynch, being that to my understanding a detective gets to investigate one suspect a night, and he had investigated 2 scum in the 2 nights he had to do so. Thus, there is no way he could have known mchlle71 was not scum since he had not had the chance to investigate her, why on earth would he blow his cover before nightfall for that texcat? Just my opinion, Hal knew on D2 that there would be a mislynch, he didn't want to out himself as a detective, on D2 he guessed right and gave Michele a choice, except if you look back, players were voting for Endhoot because Michele killed XYZ and she didn't have a choice, people were voting for EndHoot. Wacked theories but.... I'm not sure I get your logic on this one, though I do believe you to be town, but please enlighten us all if there was something missed. How exactly he would have known there would be a mislynch? Especially given the fact at that point he only had one investigation complete(and the record will show his vote for that verified scum in D2)...there is NO WAY he could have known mchlle71 was a mislynch. Do you get what I'm saying? Since he had only investigated one person to that point, and that one person wasn't mchlle71, how could he know whether she was town or scum? The only way he could have KNOWN there would be a mislynch would be if he had used his one investigation to that date to investigate mchlle71. Not to mention the fact that a town and scum were neck and neck for the lynching, it was last minute the way the whole thing went down from what I can tell. So how would anyone have known for that matter there would be a mislynch, regardless of their team or roles? That is basically my point here. I do appreciate your thoughts and feedback anyhow, nice to see some action in here! toDay!
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 17:13:14 GMT -5
You didn't say lynched, you said NK'd. Why would responding to Archangel get you NK'd? Can I answer you toNight? You're not going to be lynched today so I eagerly await your answer to this. Vote Endhoot
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 23, 2012 17:23:51 GMT -5
Interesting SilverJan I think I'm with you with your posts. I have to go back and read some things to be sure though.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 17:25:40 GMT -5
Silverjan, you've in effect soft-claimed mason, which is the smartest thing scum could do under the circumstances. (And it's also possible you're really a mason.) If I can figure this out, so can scum. (God, I sound like Ed, he must be haunting me.)
If you're really a mason and another one of your masons is alive, s/he should claim now because if you (or s/he) are killed, it will confirm the other. If it was just you and Gadarene, well, then, there's no way to prove it until you die.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 17:27:11 GMT -5
NETA: Jan, if you're really a mason and you still have a living partner, yes, it will put a target on your (and your partner's) back. But it will add to WiFoM for scum-- who will be protected out of the claimed roles?
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 17:30:12 GMT -5
NETA again: And, if Gadarene was your (only) partner and he DID breadcrumb it, it will help people to believe you if you point out where.
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Post by Silver Jan on May 23, 2012 17:35:45 GMT -5
Silverjan, you've in effect soft-claimed mason, which is the smartest thing scum could do under the circumstances. (And it's also possible you're really a mason.) If I can figure this out, so can scum. (God, I sound like Ed, he must be haunting me.) If you're really a mason and another one of your masons is alive, s/he should claim now because if you (or s/he) are killed, it will confirm the other. If it was just you and Gadarene, well, then, there's no way to prove it until you die. Hmm, so you really want me dead??
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 17:37:33 GMT -5
Silverjan, you've in effect soft-claimed mason, which is the smartest thing scum could do under the circumstances. (And it's also possible you're really a mason.) If I can figure this out, so can scum. (God, I sound like Ed, he must be haunting me.) If you're really a mason and another one of your masons is alive, s/he should claim now because if you (or s/he) are killed, it will confirm the other. If it was just you and Gadarene, well, then, there's no way to prove it until you die. Hmm, so you really want me dead?? Yes, I do, if you're scum.
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Post by Silver Jan on May 23, 2012 17:38:47 GMT -5
NETA, why should the Masons claim now, Just to be picked off as a NK grrrr, No I am not a Mason BTW.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 17:39:06 GMT -5
(You're the one that soft-claimed mason. And it's possible you're a mason. To me it's more likely you're scum, since Gadarene didn't have the second account problem you and Lightfoot had. But if you're a mason, you've already soft-claimed it so you might as well make the best of it.)
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 17:39:43 GMT -5
NETA, why should the Masons claim now, Just to be picked off as a NK grrrr, No I am not a Mason BTW. Okay, if you're not a mason then I'm fully comfortable that you're scum.
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Post by Meeko on May 23, 2012 17:52:02 GMT -5
NETA, why should the Masons claim now, Just to be picked off as a NK grrrr, No I am not a Mason BTW. But you said you've breadcrumed. You aren't a Mason. Doctor's don't really have anything to breadcrumb. Detectives can breadcrumb. If you are a Detective, and are bread crumbing, then you know the alignment of some players. You are probably on the scum short list as it is.
Again, I ask you where your breadcrumb is.
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Post by Silver Jan on May 23, 2012 17:54:17 GMT -5
NETA, why should the Masons claim now, Just to be picked off as a NK grrrr, No I am not a Mason BTW. Okay, if you're not a mason then I'm fully comfortable that you're scum. Thank you so much, couldn't you have waited til tomorrow.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 17:58:11 GMT -5
Okay, if you're not a mason then I'm fully comfortable that you're scum. Thank you so much, couldn't you have waited til tomorrow. No. I'm confident that if you're not a mason you're scum.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 18:00:22 GMT -5
Thank you so much, couldn't you have waited til tomorrow. No. I'm confident that if you're not a mason you're scum. Jan, I'm sorry, it sucks to be caught by something like that, definitely. But the only people who need secret boards in this game would be scum and masons.
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Post by Meeko on May 23, 2012 18:00:24 GMT -5
Okay, if you're not a mason then I'm fully comfortable that you're scum. Thank you so much, couldn't you have waited til tomorrow. If you are scum, why should we wait?
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Post by Meeko on May 23, 2012 18:05:46 GMT -5
Please look very carefully at the people that want to lynch me, if I survive the Night. This one slightly pings. I mean, perhaps its poor diction, but .... just comes as a bit off. Undue Paranoia or something, over-trying to be town, un-provoked, unasked for.
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Post by Silver Jan on May 23, 2012 18:05:49 GMT -5
Cos I am a fucking Mason!!, Gad did breadcrumb!
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 18:08:00 GMT -5
Cos I am a fucking Mason!!, Gad did breadcrumb! If that's true, then I will point out again that you should show us where and you're more likely to be believed.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2012 18:09:03 GMT -5
Cos I am a fucking Mason!!, Gad did breadcrumb! If that's true, then I will point out again that you should show us where and you're more likely to be believed. And, if it's true, you're doing town a service by providing WiFoM about who scum should kill at night.
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Post by Meeko on May 23, 2012 18:12:43 GMT -5
<font style="font-size: 12px;">NETA, why should the Masons claim now, Just to be picked off as a NK grrrr, No I am not a Mason BTW. <font style="font-size: 12px;">Cos I am a fucking Mason!!, Gad did breadcrumb! No I am not a Mason. Cos I am a fucking Mason. Unvote Endhoot Unvote End of Day Vote: Silver Jan Vote:
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Post by Meeko on May 23, 2012 18:13:08 GMT -5
Vote: Silver Jan
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