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Post by Chucara on Dec 7, 2012 9:23:23 GMT -5
and i post this more for our team than anything else. if you agree with my duplicate post then it might be time for another mate to vote and pre confirm themselves as well. Please just stop the vote shenanigans. It's just confusing. There is no one here* who won't believe you if you just tell us who it is. *I don't see how they can't believe you, anyway.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 11:24:57 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Dec 7, 2012 11:24:57 GMT -5
Yes, it answered some questions:
1) Peeker and Maha are on the same team. Which team that is, I'm not yet willing to hazard a guess (because luffya peeks but I don't trustya.)
2) Some teams votes don't count for each other.
So there's that.
As to the rest; I haven't said much because I haven't had much to say. I haven't decided where I'm going to put my vote yet, and I need to remember NOT to sign up for a game when I'm running one.
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Post by crys on Dec 7, 2012 12:10:26 GMT -5
In my mind all you really confirmed is that your are apparently on the same team. You could still be ce le or cg. yes you are correct. however, i think you can probably cross le off the list. as guir pointed out two le's outing themselves while being the pivotal votes on the le lynch would not be optimal. additionally, both maha and i have short shelf lives typically. so once one of us pops up dead that basically confirms the other. Logically I would see where you being le is less likely, however it may be a clever tactic to confuse other factions except to actual le(this assuming you are not). I would be suprised to see any le confirm or deny you are/are not a team mate...so back to don't trust anyone I go
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 13:54:57 GMT -5
Post by wombat99 on Dec 7, 2012 13:54:57 GMT -5
vote Wombat99Guiri makes a good point about the non-participation from certain players. I won't have time to reread today or tomorrow, so I will put down a vote based on this - just in case the day ends when I'm not around (I still haven't quite figured out how the day end works). Wombat99 does seem to play differently this game. Probably because I feel like I'm swimming in jello in Day 2 so far, or something. So, 2 of the (maybe 3 or 4) LE's are dead. For the sake of argument, I am accepting peeker and Mahaloth's CG claim as truthful. I understand that the CG's are proposing that they throw their lot in with the LG's, and that makes some sense - we could potentially work together to get rid of the E's. But two things bother me about this. First, peeker's pushing the "mason" thing too hard (although he's backed off a bit). CG does not equal mason. CG is an opposing faction to LG. Second, what benefit does LG get from this partnership? The use of the CG remorseful killer? Doesn't it benefit CG to go after E to achieve their wincon anyway, since there are fewer E than L in the game? Why are they so eager to team up? Are we certain that their wincon is not win-stealing?
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 15:17:46 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2012 15:17:46 GMT -5
i don't know wombat. kid was pretty clear that this was not a gastard game. so i am operating under the assumption that the rules are what the rules are. good wins when all evil are eliminated. chaotic wins when all lawful are eliminated. it just seems easier to get rid of the evils than the lawfuls especially in light of the current reveals. now if i have mis-parsed the rules then please enlighten me.
and while i certainly appreciate the fact that some of you think this is some grand ploy i really have to disagree. i am best a below average player. i don't catch half the stuff that the rest of you do. really, i am more chance the gardener in being there than anything else (a great movie by the way). and so i apologize to you folks and specifically pizza if the thought is that i am trying to "break" the game.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 15:24:39 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2012 15:24:39 GMT -5
and i post this more for our team than anything else. if you agree with my duplicate post then it might be time for another mate to vote and pre confirm themselves as well. Please just stop the vote shenanigans. It's just confusing. There is no one here* who won't believe you if you just tell us who it is. *I don't see how they can't believe you, anyway. understood. how 'bout this? if she/he comes forward either maha or i will confirm. that way the two of us don't out him/her without their approval. is that fair enough?
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 15:25:07 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Dec 7, 2012 15:25:07 GMT -5
Peeker said:
and while i certainly appreciate the fact that some of you think this is some grand ploy i really have to disagree. i am best a below average player. i don't catch half the stuff that the rest of you do.
To which I say: horsefeathers, peek.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Dec 7, 2012 16:09:06 GMT -5
dear mod can we get a vote count please
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 16:17:41 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2012 16:17:41 GMT -5
Peeker said: and while i certainly appreciate the fact that some of you think this is some grand ploy i really have to disagree. i am best a below average player. i don't catch half the stuff that the rest of you do. To which I say: horsefeathers, peek. i always did like harpo the best. www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7oZXt_71CE
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 16:21:03 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2012 16:21:03 GMT -5
and if you folks don't get the marx brothers connection i will be very sad.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 18:04:33 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Dec 7, 2012 18:04:33 GMT -5
Oddly enough, I wasn't thinking of that when I posted, but now that you mention it.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 18:07:26 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Dec 7, 2012 18:07:26 GMT -5
Hey everyone. My mom was discharged from the hospital today, and now she's in a rehab center to work on her leg. My participation may still be iffy but it will be better since I'm not going to be spending nights at the hospital anymore.
I did a cursory read of toDay's shenanigans, essentially peeker and mahaloth confirmed they can't vote each other and are likely on the same team. Guiri came up with the idea for everyone to vote to out a remorseful vig? I believe?
Guiri - I may have missed this in my first read, and if so I apologize, but you seem to be pretty sure the remorseful killer you're trying to out is Lawful Evil. But every faction outside of Chaotic Evil could have a remorseful killer. Why are you so intent on outing said person? They could be Lawful Good and you'd end up outing someone for the Chaotic Evil faction to kill (or not kill, if they want to keep around a person that can't vote). Again, I apologize if you've answered this already. I'm quite tired and probably shouldn't be reading everything right now, and on top of that 50% of the posts so far in Day Two are peeker which just makes my overtaxed brain hurt more.
As for me, I'll go ahead and:
Vote Inner Stickler
Since his entire contribution to the game so far is checking in and a fluff post. Not a final vote by any means, more of a poke, and just to register a vote should a vote count arise in the meantime. I'll do a more thorough reread and post actual suspicions and an actual vote after I get some sleep and my eyes don't burn.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 18:52:16 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Dec 7, 2012 18:52:16 GMT -5
Guiri - I may have missed this in my first read, and if so I apologize, but you seem to be pretty sure the remorseful killer you're trying to out is Lawful Evil. But every faction outside of Chaotic Evil could have a remorseful killer. Why are you so intent on outing said person? They could be Lawful Good and you'd end up outing someone for the Chaotic Evil faction to kill (or not kill, if they want to keep around a person that can't vote). No, I figured we could identify one or both 3rd party killers and possibly determine which of the deaths, if any, was the scum kill. I also stated that Peeker or Mahaloth could simply share their knowledge and no voting would be necessary. I acknowledged the risk of outing a LG vig but suspected that a town-aligned remorseful vig would have held off on N1 without a clear target. Once Peeker shared his information, I suggested it was not worth continuing as, while at best we could possibly identify the LE killer only, there was a chance a LG vig went wild N1.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 21:22:35 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Dec 7, 2012 21:22:35 GMT -5
Day Two, as of post 192:
Guiri (3): Hockey Monkey (71), Mahaloth (87), Ginger (121) Peeker (1): Pizzaguy (111) Hockey Monkey (1): Guiri (114) Pizzaguy (1): Peeker (118) Drain Bead (1): Lightfoot (134) Lightfoot (1): Patricia (169) Wombat (1): Chucara (139) Inner Stickler (1): Pollux (191)
The last vote was on 12/7 at 4:07 PM MST (GMT -7). If there are no further valid votes, a 24 hour countdown to EOD will begin on 12/8 at 4:07 AM.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2012 23:05:25 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2012 23:05:25 GMT -5
But every faction outside of Chaotic Evil could have a remorseful killer. first, glad to hear about your mom. i don't know her age but i would think chicken soup cooking is in your future. tell her to chill, get a home health folk like laurie to send an OT over there and kind of scope things out. some of their suggestions are kind of like: "duh, why didn't i think of that".
but back to the business at hand. why do you think that ce has a non remorseful killer?
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 8, 2012 2:10:22 GMT -5
The countdown will start in about 5 hours if y'all are good with that
Aren't the majority of the votes on guiri suspected Scum? or am I in the wrong game
off to research it might be 4 hours
edited for last line
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 8, 2012 2:18:03 GMT -5
All three votes are residuals from the "experiment"
brilliant!
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 8, 2012 2:39:14 GMT -5
At this time Guiri (3): Hockey Monkey (71), Mahaloth (87), Ginger (121) votes from the experiment Peeker (1): Pizzaguy (111) votes from the experiment Hockey Monkey (1): Guiri (114) low participation Pizzaguy (1): Peeker (118) being Pizza Drain Bead (1): Lightfoot (134) case made Lightfoot (1): Patricia (169) bath water case recycled biased analogy here Wombat (1): Chucara (139) low participation it’s post 173 btw Inner Stickler (1): Pollux (191) low participation
Shall we enter the 24 hour countdown with this cast of characters?
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Post by guiri on Dec 8, 2012 3:46:29 GMT -5
Ginger was waiting for the official vote count to see if her vote counted... Hockey's vote on me is definitive, my vote on her is based on suspicions from yesterDay coupled with her participation toDay and supported a little by Astral's death. I also suspect Drain and would be willing to join you there. I'd also vote Colby for laying low and being useful.
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 8, 2012 3:51:08 GMT -5
The last vote was on 12/7 at 4:07 PM MST (GMT -7). If there are no further valid votes, a 24 hour countdown to EOD will begin on 12/8 at 4:07 AM
Is there PM/AM confusion here or do we have just a couple hours until the timer starts?
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Post by guiri on Dec 8, 2012 3:54:02 GMT -5
AM/PM confusion methinks.
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 8, 2012 3:55:15 GMT -5
Ginger was waiting for the official vote count to see if her vote counted... Hockey's vote on me is definitive, my vote on her is based on suspicions from yesterDay coupled with her participation toDay and supported a little by Astral's death. I also suspect Drain and would be willing to join you there. I'd also vote Colby for laying low and being useful. re: Ginger= she would know if her vote would count= suspect to me I see part of the case on Hockey But isn't it a little early to lynch the lukewarm?
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 8, 2012 9:10:20 GMT -5
At this time Guiri (3): Hockey Monkey (71), Mahaloth (87), Ginger (121) votes from the experiment Peeker (1): Pizzaguy (111) votes from the experiment Hockey Monkey (1): Guiri (114) low participation Pizzaguy (1): Peeker (118) being PizzaDrain Bead (1): Lightfoot (134) case made Lightfoot (1): Patricia (169) bath water case recycled biased analogy hereWombat (1): Chucara (139) low participation it’s post 173 btw Inner Stickler (1): Pollux (191) low participation Shall we enter the 24 hour countdown with this cast of characters? actually i think pizza voted me for suggesting the voting scheme between me and maha and the subsequent experiment thingy proposed by guiri. not merely as part of the experiment. i've done pissed him off enough this game without adding a different motive than what he intended, just my opinion. he can, of course, disagree. but i have to admit that it is quite a cast of characters.
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 8, 2012 9:17:46 GMT -5
neta: and i am not voting pizza for being pizzza. i am voting him for what i consider to be duplicitous views. on one hand he thinks voting pressure/mechanics/whatever are the bee's knees when he suggests it. on the other hand when i suggest it and guiri enhances it he has a conniption. he even goes so far to say i am trying to "break" the game. i just find that highly inconsistent. now could this just be frustrated LG, maybe. but could this be frustrated LE or CE i believe to be more likely. my two cents.
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 8, 2012 9:23:31 GMT -5
Oddly enough, I wasn't thinking of that when I posted, but now that you mention it. it is amazing how all things tie together in the end. even if they were inadvertant.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Dec 8, 2012 9:34:33 GMT -5
vote Pizza
I hate meta votes, but with the peeker show only now winding down, there's not much to go on. The play from him is inconsistient, usually he's all about plans and strategies. But all of a sudden there's a line? It just seems a poorly thought out reason so that he won't have to vote on a specific person at any time.
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Day Two
Dec 8, 2012 11:27:44 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Dec 8, 2012 11:27:44 GMT -5
The last vote was on 12/7 at 4:07 PM MST (GMT -7). If there are no further valid votes, a 24 hour countdown to EOD will begin on 12/8 at 4:07 AM Is there PM/AM confusion here or do we have just a couple hours until the timer starts? There is AM/PM confusion. 4:07 PM. Unless there's been more votes, in which case later than that.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Dec 8, 2012 11:53:57 GMT -5
Ginger was waiting for the official vote count to see if her vote counted... Hockey's vote on me is definitive, my vote on her is based on suspicions from yesterDay coupled with her participation toDay and supported a little by Astral's death. I also suspect Drain and would be willing to join you there. I'd also vote Colby for laying low and being useful. re: Ginger= she would know if her vote would count= suspect to me I see part of the case on Hockey But isn't it a little early to lynch the lukewarm? And how would I know if my vote counted or not until the mod posted a vote count? I know my alignment and it is not guiri. So lets do this vote lightfootFor the smudge that I would know that my vote would count. Plus I am keeping my eye on Guiri, his comment that I must not be reading the game if I thought that peeker and maha are masons.
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Day Two
Dec 8, 2012 12:28:33 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Dec 8, 2012 12:28:33 GMT -5
Unvote
Vote Pizza
Simply put, I agree with peeker and think he is the best lynch for the Day. Having said that, I still suspect Ginger.
Is this an oddly quiet game? I have been crazy busy this week, which caused my reduced play, but don't we have a seriously silent game going on here? So much so, I can even get behind a lynch the lurkers kind of thing if this continues on Day 3.
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Day Two
Dec 8, 2012 12:57:22 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Dec 8, 2012 12:57:22 GMT -5
but back to the business at hand. why do you think that ce has a non remorseful killer? Two reasons: one, I was going off the potential roles list where a Remorseful Killer is listed underneath each faction except Chaotic Evil. Two, in the rules section KidV specifically states that the Chaotic Evil faction has a group kill. Now, granted, KidV says it's possible there are roles not listed for each faction to keep things interesting. However, I would think it'd be overpowered for Chaotic Evil to have a Remorseful Killer in addition to their regular group kill, because in theory that could give them two kills a Night, every Night, as long as the Remorseful Killer hits Lawful Good every time.
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