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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 11, 2013 15:05:33 GMT -5
I am disinclined at mid-game to give an awol player a pass when there is no stronger candidate on the docket. I understand being frustrated with Meeko, but I don't at the moment see enough there to vote him for. I have suspicions about patricia, but she's off the table for the moment.
I was the last surviving non-awol Town in a game on the Geeb that Town could have won had not everyone taken off. Now is the time, IMO, to pick off those who have given up playing so they can't screw Town by their absence.
(No offense to Jaade and I hope everything is okay in her world.)
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 11, 2013 15:10:41 GMT -5
I will give you that I think it was an odd choice that Scum chose Pleo to off last night (assuming all of our Vig/SKs are gone).
Why not the proclaimed Doctor?
Why not flush out some more power roles?
Pleo was choosing between a completely inactive player Jaade and a proclaimed 3rd party. Unless Paranoia is really scum.....I wonder about him....
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 11, 2013 15:11:01 GMT -5
I will give you that I think it was an odd choice that Scum chose Pleo to off last night (assuming all of our Vig/SKs are gone).
Why not the proclaimed Doctor?
Why not flush out some more power roles?
Pleo was choosing between a completely inactive player Jaade and a proclaimed 3rd party. Unless Paranoia is really scum.....I wonder about him....
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Post by sinjin on Sept 11, 2013 15:14:12 GMT -5
If Jaade is somehow sending night actions into Story via smoke signal or carrier pigeon, post-game drinks are on sinjin and Dizzy.  If Story is reading smoke signals from Jaade, I am storming his house and drinking HIS drinks, you are all welcome to join me. |
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 11, 2013 15:23:37 GMT -5
People aren't voting for whom I'm suspicious of, and that makes me suspicious of them!  I figure there's probably two Scum among the KidV voters; one of them is Cookies. Perhaps F_and_G is her Scum teammate, or perhaps she's trying to divert attention from him just to keep a buffer to delay her own eventual Lynch. Her voting Jaade seems odd. I've not been getting Town vibes from her. Unvote
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 11, 2013 15:31:48 GMT -5
I will give you that I think it was an odd choice that Scum chose Pleo to off last night (assuming all of our Vig/SKs are gone). I want my dubious smiley. I don't find it an odd choice at all. He was giving Town useful information, as long as the game goes to Day Six he wins regardless of his alive/dead status, and eventually he was going to nail Scum to the wall. Plus, it adds WiFoM to patricia's claim: if she IS the doc, it makes it much easier to push a case on her. Plus plus, no guarantee she wouldn't protect herself. |
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 15:32:47 GMT -5
There may be scum in the KidV voters, but I'm not one of them. As we all seem to be floundering here in mid-game, I can't hold that logic against you, but it is inaccurate nonetheless.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to cut dead weight. It is a strategy, and I'm not alone in being willing to employ it.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 15:34:29 GMT -5
NETA there's nothing odd about wanting to cut dead weight, I mean. And that post is in response to Swammer, btw.
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Post by texcat on Sept 11, 2013 15:50:33 GMT -5
I am not against a Jaade lynch particularly, but assuming she's not using smoke signals, she's not much of a current threat. The more I think about it, the more I think that Meeko is the jailer. And if so, I really want to lynch him Today before he can jail Patricia again Tonight. Let's look at Meeko's reaction to being jailed. DAY TWO In addition, MEEKO has been jailed. Although he is permitted to participate in discussion and vote, he cannot be lynched (or subject to any action) during Day Two, nor can he be the subject of any Night action on Night Two (including Night kills). At Dawn of Day Three his imprisonment will end. Funny, I don't remember rolling doubles..... Does anyone have 50 bucks? I'll settle for a harmonica ... Or a whore named Monica...... Not WTF? Or who did this to me? Or why am I in jail? He's shown no interest in how or why he was jailed and no interest in his jailer at all. |
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 11, 2013 16:12:59 GMT -5
Hmmm And no response to Patricia when she asked if he had any extra information about being Jailed for a cycle.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 16:47:17 GMT -5
I'd be a liar if I said I haven't pondered Meeko as the Jailer many times.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 11, 2013 17:14:09 GMT -5
I am disinclined at mid-game to give an awol player a pass when there is no stronger candidate on the docket. I understand being frustrated with Meeko, but I don't at the moment see enough there to vote him for. I have suspicions about patricia, but she's off the table for the moment. I was the last surviving non-awol Town in a game on the Geeb that Town could have won had not everyone taken off. Now is the time, IMO, to pick off those who have given up playing so they can't screw Town by their absence. (No offense to Jaade and I hope everything is okay in her world.) How the heck does killing off a potential non-participant town not screw town more than actually pursuing scum? I understand your anger about awol team-mates. It happened to me several times when I was on the scummy side and caused me to quit playing for awhile. But this makes no sense to me at all. Why are you not trying to find a stronger candidate if you don't believe Meeko is scummy? We have another whole day! |
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Sept 11, 2013 17:25:32 GMT -5
I don't know what the SOP for this forum is, since this is my first game here, but I know that in other places I've played there's usually an off-board board, like a proboard or an ebsco board or most usually a quicktopic. Is it possible that jaade is scum and only logging on elsewhere to have plausible deniability, or do most GMs here require on-forum action submission?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 17:32:57 GMT -5
Story has his own proboard set up, and whenever I play in his games and end up with a role that involves off-board communication, that is where he has set those up.
And based on these sections of the rules, it doesn't look like there is any hard and fast rule that is visible to us players as to enforcement:
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 11, 2013 17:38:17 GMT -5
How the heck does killing off a potential non-participant town not screw town more than actually pursuing scum? I understand your anger about awol team-mates. It happened to me several times when I was on the scummy side and caused me to quit playing for awhile. But this makes no sense to me at all. Why are you not trying to find a stronger candidate if you don't believe Meeko is scummy? We have another whole day! And I may well change my vote before EoD. However, just at the moment I do not believe any one person for whom I can vote is a strong candidate for Scum or for PFK (I'd love to have a vote on patricia but I'm not going to risk rifting the space-time continuum to do so). That said -- It is the mid-point in the game. IMO, now is the time to trim any dead-weight, or we risk going in to end game with a non-participant. Bonus if that player is Scum or PFK. I'm not angry. And I won't argue that the problem of non-participation is worse when you're on the Scum side. |
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Post by sinjin on Sept 11, 2013 17:42:45 GMT -5
I don't know what the SOP for this forum is, since this is my first game here, but I know that in other places I've played there's usually an off-board board, like a proboard or an ebsco board or most usually a quicktopic. Is it possible that jaade is scum and only logging on elsewhere to have plausible deniability, or do most GMs here require on-forum action submission? Yes that is true here too. I still don't think Jaade is a good lynch for toDay. In other news, I just tripped down the memory lane of Day three and there is an interesting discussion about the potential scummitude of Patricia re Abstain being scum. I suggest all town/3rd party town supporters reread Day 3. Along the way I came across this post of Abstain's: Meeko never responded in thread and it just seems soooooo off in retrospect. |
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 11, 2013 18:08:13 GMT -5
Eh, the answer is it depends on the Mod. And I didn't really think about that.
Some Mod's allow scum to submit actions on the Scum boards.
Some Mods want a separate PM for each action on this board.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 11, 2013 18:50:44 GMT -5
For me, he's being annoying. And one of these days he's going to perfect the art of being annoying, non-contributive, fixated, reactionary scum. Who the heck knows if now is that time or not though. It seems like he's not inclined to claim at this point either, which is yet another thing that can be both suspect and yet fall in line with a Townie Meeko being his stubborn pro-meeko-but-anti-town self. Unvote: Meeko Vote: JaadeA lynched Jaade will at least provide information to the game with her flip. Tell me Cookies, you seem to be an avid historian of Meeko, has he ever put forth any inkling on his stance towards claiming? |
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Post by Meeko on Sept 11, 2013 18:55:16 GMT -5
I don't know what the SOP for this forum is, since this is my first game here, but I know that in other places I've played there's usually an off-board board, like a proboard or an ebsco board or most usually a quicktopic. Is it possible that jaade is scum and only logging on elsewhere to have plausible deniability, or do most GMs here require on-forum action submission? Yes that is true here too. I still don't think Jaade is a good lynch for toDay. In other news, I just tripped down the memory lane of Day three and there is an interesting discussion about the potential scummitude of Patricia re Abstain being scum. I suggest all town/3rd party town supporters reread Day 3. Along the way I came across this post of Abstain's: Meeko never responded in thread and it just seems soooooo off in retrospect. Can't sleep so I'll be around. Whaddya want to talk about meeko. There was a recent game, a batman themed game iirc, where a role extra abilities once the player voted for everyone. That player did just that, rapid fire voting and unvoting each player, including himself, in one post. I wonder if Texcat doesn't have a similar mechanic. |
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Post by Meeko on Sept 11, 2013 19:17:55 GMT -5
Ok, point taken that Jaade is apparently not the jailer or Pleo killer. Let's get with the claiming then, Meeko. Unvote: Jaade Vote: MeekoWhy are you fishing? |
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Post by Meeko on Sept 11, 2013 19:22:36 GMT -5
So is the case on Meeko that he's being annoying, that he's exhibiting PIS, or something else? Stuff like this: He has shown no interest in scum hunting and has not since Day 1. All of his posts are nonsense. His play is completely anti-town. As I stated before I believe he is either PFK or scum. I would not be surprised at all if he is the jailer as someone up thread suggested. The only "case" he has made to date is that texcat might get some awesome powers if she votes for everyone because that happened in that Batman game..........once. Again, someone else has said what I should have said. what is the case against me? Ah, that I am actually playing and making cases. Sinjin, you made my case for me, why do you think the Batman voting power was a unique situation? |
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Post by sinjin on Sept 11, 2013 20:08:20 GMT -5
Stuff like this: He has shown no interest in scum hunting and has not since Day 1. All of his posts are nonsense. His play is completely anti-town. As I stated before I believe he is either PFK or scum. I would not be surprised at all if he is the jailer as someone up thread suggested. The only "case" he has made to date is that texcat might get some awesome powers if she votes for everyone because that happened in that Batman game..........once. Again, someone else has said what I should have said. what is the case against me? Ah, that I am actually playing and making cases. Sinjin, you made my case for me, why do you think the Batman voting power was a unique situation? No Meeko, I did not make your case for you. All you have is idle speculation about the possibility of a role that was present in a past game being exactly the same as a role that might be in this game. You have answered no questions about your "jailing" nor have you participated in any of the lynches or cases presented by any other players in the game. WHy were you so copacetic about your "jailing" in the first place? You are a NULL participant as far as this game goes. I think you are scum. |
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 20:52:06 GMT -5
Tell me Cookies, you seem to be an avid historian of Meeko, has he ever put forth any inkling on his stance towards claiming? How about instead I say that I would hope that you have enough experience with the game to know that every Day of every game is a unique snowflake and deserving of being examined and considered within its own context. This includes each individual's decision as to how to play their role at any given time and when/if they should claim. [/quote]Why are you fishing?[/quote] I'm not fishing. I'm assuming that you're going to claim vs go silently to the gallows. |
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Post by patricia on Sept 11, 2013 21:16:05 GMT -5
As I have said before I was given no information about being jailed from the mod - My only information is what was written for all to see in the color. I do think that the jailer is a role that can act every other night which would explain why no one was jailed night 3. I also want to point out that when the color was written about me being in jail it read that I couldn't act or be acted upon, but the color when Meeko was jailed said nothing about Meeko not acting which leads me to feel that Meeko doesn't have any actions so therefore I doubt he is 3rd party or town power role.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 21:21:40 GMT -5
In addition, MEEKO has been jailed. Although he is permitted to participate in discussion and vote, he cannot be lynched (or subject to any action) during Day Two, nor can he be the subject of any Night action on Night Two (including Night kills). At Dawn of Day Three his imprisonment will end. /quote] PATRICIA has been jailed. She can neither act nor be acted upon, and cannot be lynched, until Dawn of Day Five. So there is some difference in wording, but I'd be willing to bet that Story intended to say the same thing in both posts, otherwise, he'd be leaking details as to the role of the prisoner, which I highly doubt he would want to do. |
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 21:22:57 GMT -5
I managed to fuck that up but I'll just make it worse trying to fix it. That bottom paragraph is me, not Storyteller.
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Post by patricia on Sept 11, 2013 21:25:50 GMT -5
I didn't see Pleonast as a good choice to protect last night - and I still don't know why scum targeted him why not go after the doc? Why go after someone who is yes giving information to town but only on low posting players all scum had to do is post some and they would be off the Pleonast rader for day.
Than today someone posted that non active scum are harder on the scum team than non active town is on the town team and it click - that is why Pleonast was killed. Either Paranoia or Jaade are non active scum.
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Vote: Jaade
as she is already on her way to a lynch or maybe Paranoia is a better choice. I'm betting one of them is scum
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Post by patricia on Sept 11, 2013 21:29:02 GMT -5
Thanks cookies I wanted to quote that but my quoting skills are weak at best. I'm sure he didn't mean to post the color so different like it was but I do think it makes sense and we should use the information.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 22:17:24 GMT -5
Without trying to crawl into Storyteller's brain with a copy of Psychology for Dummies (that is self-deprecating humor btw), I can only say that I disagree with your assessment.
I think he is more likely to just make a typo or word choice that is simply an error and to infer any more than that, such as a assuming it is a Freudian slop, would lead to inaccurate conclusions. I think he is much less likely to make a typo or word choice that inadvertently betrays game mechanics.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 11, 2013 22:17:58 GMT -5
Heh Freudian slop
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