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Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 6, 2014 8:51:47 GMT -5
Dark Souls
Chapter 2: Day – The Undead Parish They cross the pair of bridges leading from the tower into the Undead Parish with minimal difficulty. The first bridge was a roomy seven feet wide, with no railing and a five hundred foot death drop on the sides; fortunately, those seven feet were more than enough to accommodate the gigantic bull demon that guarded the bridge. The second bridge was much wider, and with a neat, if somewhat singed, railing on either side. The few desultory undead soldiers dotting the bridge were easily dispatched by the party; the fire-breathing dragon somewhat less so, but they were all well accustomed to fleeing already.
They arrived at the bonfire on the far side of the bridge surprisingly intact. All had felt the fire, but none had fallen to it. With the most enthusiasm they’d mustered in 24 hours, they congratulated themselves on surprising the night. Particularly effusive in his congratulations was abstain, though his praise mostly took the form of gurgling, choking noises as he tried in vain to patch the sudden, surprising puncture wound in his chest.Abstain, who was Oswald the Pardoner and a member of the Way of the White, has been Night killed and is now DEAD.Near the bonfire they find letters in burning orange flame, the result of an orange soapstone for certain. They read as follows: We care about you. buy Mahaloth's stuff. You are all important. buy Mahaloth's stuff. Much love!Their origin is unknown. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Two begins here, and will end on THURSDAY, JULY 11 at 12:30PM Eastern time. Please submit all Day actions before this time.
REMINDER: Please continue to copy both texcat and lightfoot (co-moderating this game) on all game-related correspondence, especially including any soapstone messages you decide to send to another player.
Have fun!
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 6, 2014 11:44:07 GMT -5
Here is my current inventory that is for sale. If you want to use a Night Miracle/Sorcery, I suggest you buy it during the Day so it will be transferred to you at Night. And vice-versa for Day Powers. I have bolded Night Powers for you.
It appears all business transactions, if any, have been fulfilled. If you do not feel this is the case, PM the mods and have them contact me. We at Mahaloth's Shop of Miracles and Sorceries are a legitimate business and intend to rip no one off.
My inventory:
MIRACLES:
Tranquil Walk of Peace (M) – Use this miracle by Day; for the Night immediately following, no player is permitted to use any miracles regardless of its purpose. Can be used only once in the game.
Replenishment (M) – Use this miracle by Night and select a target; that player will be restored to Humanity if Hollow, and any broken/exhausted items will be repaired/recharged. Costs one soul to use, and can be used only once in the game.
- Note: I have checked and you can use this on yourself. Hey, if you are dying toDay, buy it and restore yourself. Or if you really want to "hollow" someone, but it to block them from doing so!
Soothing Sunlight (M) – Use this miracle by Night to provide a very specific kind of protection to a single Human target: namely, the target will be Hollow, but not dead, when the Night ends (no matter what other attacks or abilities are used on that target – even attacks that normally penetrate miracle-based protection will not permanently kill a player under the protection of Soothing Sunlight). Can be used only once in the game, but costs no souls to use.
SORCERIES:
Hush (S) – Use this sorcery by Day; for the Night immediately following, no player is permitted to use any sorcery regardless of its purpose. Can be used only once in the game.
Soul Forge (S) – Use this sorcery by Day or Night to create a single soul to be used for barter or to power items. Can be used to create a maximum of two souls.
Aural Decoy (S) – Use this sorcery by Night to redirect any abilities aimed at a first target onto a second (either target may be the caster). Costs one soul to use.
Soul Arrow (S) – Use this miracle by Night to attack and hollow one (Human) target of your choice. This attack will penetrate protection from Armor or Weapons, but has no effect on a player who is already Hollow. Costs one soul to use.
Magic Shield (S) – Use this miracle by Night to protect one target from hostile attacks. Ineffective against attacks that penetrate protection by sorceries. Costs one soul to use.
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Post by Meeko on Jul 6, 2014 13:47:13 GMT -5
Mah.... I mean the unknown origin should have included the bouncing bunnies in the advert, some klaxons or something.
On second thought, perhaps it's better you didn't.
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Post by Chronos on Jul 6, 2014 14:28:33 GMT -5
Wow, that was much less bloody than I was expecting. I can't see Scum finishing off abstain (sorry about that, by the way)-- That's presumably either a vigilante, or an SK type who's pretending to be a vigilante. Which means that the Scum kill (if there is one) was either protected or blocked. Yay! Between that and what I know of the Town's powers (I don't know if Story realized how powerful he was making us), we're in really good shape.
Mahaloth, I've gotten your message, but I'm afraid I must insist on exactly the deal I described before. If that's no longer possible, then I regret that I will not be able to do any further business along those lines.
Speaking of such matters, my previous dealings with Mahaloth have left my soul intact, and it would not be a violation of any agreement I have with him to conduct business with anyone else. If anyone would like to contact me concerning any such business, feel free.
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 6, 2014 14:51:46 GMT -5
Mah.... I mean the unknown origin should have included the bouncing bunnies in the advert, some klaxons or something. On second thought, perhaps it's better you didn't. Meeko - Huh? Chronos - original deal is just fine.
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Post by Chronos on Jul 6, 2014 15:37:52 GMT -5
Mahaloth: The original deal involved payment after delivery of goods, and also had some stipulations concerning delivery. I can wait.
On another note, it is possible that I will die before the other mason(s) have need to out themself/themselves. In case this happens, refer back to this post:
dthabdayapfmkdonftdotcdwywitianpatl heakogscleitcaoyuifagcymnuiautfchp
utsbntpapiyaa tksiaepbacsamaaalaycttapaattwptksnmaa
Any true Mason should be able to explain what one or both of these two strings means, and will thus be able to prove themself without other Masons needing to corroborate.
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Post by abstain on Jul 6, 2014 21:33:51 GMT -5
Dead: Shocking, really.
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Post by Meeko on Jul 6, 2014 23:22:31 GMT -5
Mah.... I mean the unknown origin should have included the bouncing bunnies in the advert, some klaxons or something. On second thought, perhaps it's better you didn't. Meeko - Huh? Chronos - original deal is just fine. Who ever wrote the advertisement for you, should have used the . Smiley much more effective advertising. Trust me, my degree in marketing has been gathering dust since 07.
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 7, 2014 1:18:50 GMT -5
Meeko - Huh? Chronos - original deal is just fine. Who ever wrote the advertisement for you, should have used the . Smiley much more effective advertising. Trust me, my degree in marketing has been gathering dust since 07. That's why I'm working on my masters degree
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Post by Meeko on Jul 7, 2014 1:50:11 GMT -5
Mahaloth: The original deal involved payment after delivery of goods, and also had some stipulations concerning delivery. I can wait. On another note, it is possible that I will die before the other mason(s) have need to out themself/themselves. In case this happens, refer back to this post: dthabdayapfmkdonftdotcdwywitianpatl heakogscleitcaoyuifagcymnuiautfchp utsbntpapiyaa tksiaepbacsamaaalaycttapaattwptksnmaa Any true Mason should be able to explain what one or both of these two strings means, and will thus be able to prove themself without other Masons needing to corroborate. What about true Scotsmen?
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 7, 2014 4:56:44 GMT -5
Well that's rather sucky I was hoping we'd get to see more of what you could do Abstain. Wow, that was much less bloody than I was expecting. I can't see Scum finishing off abstain (sorry about that, by the way)-- That's presumably either a vigilante, or an SK type who's pretending to be a vigilante. Which means that the Scum kill (if there is one) was either protected or blocked. Yay! Between that and what I know of the Town's powers (I don't know if Story realized how powerful he was making us), we're in really good shape. I'm failing to see why Scum wouldn't want to kill Abstain. I don't find it surprising at all considering he was already half way to dead. Hollow someone else, or kill a probable Town (or at least a non-Scum)? It gives them a strong start.
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Post by Chronos on Jul 7, 2014 5:52:07 GMT -5
Because it had been already demonstrated that others were willing to kill him instead. It's a waste of Scum's actions to kill someone who's likely to be killed by others. And it's not like his claimed powers made him a threat to Scum. Maybe we would have lynched him again, maybe a Vig would finish the job, and either way, that kill would have been one not aimed at Scum. Meanwhile, actions they spend on killing him are sure not to hit the valuable power roles.
I also very strongly suspect that Scum can do a lot more than just half-kill one player per cycle, or a Scum win would be pretty much impossible. My guess is that their kill goes all the way in one shot. But we'll probably see evidence in that regard within a Night.
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Post by peekercpa on Jul 7, 2014 10:18:57 GMT -5
i don't quite parse you totally chronos. it would seem that who ever whacked him was after something they thought he had or just wanted a soul or something. but i agree if scum only get a half kill per Night they have a steep hill. with 20+ players those folks are looking at having to stretch this beast into next year to even have a chance. but i would have thought that scum would have fired at someone and we'd have at least have a hollow (or whatever). unless maha has infinite rbs for sale. in which case my grand kids can pick up the pieces.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 7, 2014 10:20:08 GMT -5
Agreed, Abstain does seem a bit of a strange choice. Tho I guess if there is someone who can unhollow folk, then getting rid of Abstain made more sense.
Dizzy would have gotten Abstain's soul as first voter, and for anyone collecting souls, Dizzy would have been a good target.
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 7, 2014 12:06:12 GMT -5
unless maha has infinite rbs for sale. in which case my grand kids can pick up the pieces. I only have one RB(somehow I assume you meant RP = replenishment), but if abstain had sensed his lynch, which I think he could have, he should have bought it during the end of yesterDay and unhallowed himself.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 7, 2014 13:42:37 GMT -5
Agreed, Abstain does seem a bit of a strange choice. Tho I guess if there is someone who can unhollow folk, then getting rid of Abstain made more sense. Dizzy would have gotten Abstain's soul as first voter, and for anyone collecting souls, Dizzy would have been a good target. I didn't receive anything.....IDK how that whole mechanism works at all.
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Post by bufftabby on Jul 7, 2014 15:54:46 GMT -5
Agreed, Abstain does seem a bit of a strange choice. Tho I guess if there is someone who can unhollow folk, then getting rid of Abstain made more sense. Dizzy would have gotten Abstain's soul as first voter, and for anyone collecting souls, Dizzy would have been a good target. I didn't receive anything.....IDK how that whole mechanism works at all. Here's how it works. You only get souls for killing, not hollowing, other players. So whoever actually killed Abstain last Night should have gotten his soul. For anyone confused about why Abstain was targetted last Night, there's at least one answer.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 7, 2014 16:49:51 GMT -5
I didn't receive anything.....IDK how that whole mechanism works at all. Here's how it works. You only get souls for killing, not hollowing, other players. So whoever actually killed Abstain last Night should have gotten his soul. For anyone confused about why Abstain was targetted last Night, there's at least one answer. And an important one to remember, I think. (The bad news is, my sinusitis got worse this weekend. The good news is, I think the antibiotics have FINALLY kicked in and I am starting to feel better.)
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Post by BillMc on Jul 7, 2014 17:24:36 GMT -5
I was reading this differently: "If lynched or subject to a Night or Day kill, a player will not immediately die and be removed from the game; rather, he or she will become Hollow – undead, soulless, but still able to participate"
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Post by Chronos on Jul 7, 2014 19:07:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought that, too, until Storyteller clarified. Meanwhile, I'm going to open up toDay's voting. swammerdami's changing views on abstain, as I pointed out last Night, just don't seem to make sense. OK, people change their views based on new evidence. And sometimes they change their views based on just re-evaluation of the existing evidence. But swammer won't even say whether he got any new evidence ( "And I'll promise to keep information confidential unless the sender gives me discretion. For that reason I won't comment on whether Abstain and I exchanged any PM's.", even though the purpose of such PM was supposed to be to persuade the rest of us that Abstain was legit, and his reversal is so extreme that he considered anyone suspect who thought the same way he was thinking at the beginning of the Day. Yes, it did turn out to be true that abstain was Town, but it certainly wasn't overwhelmingly obvious, or swammer would have realized it sooner. I would like a more thorough explanation from swammer for this, because it looks to me like a Scum who both wants a Townie killed, and wants credit for trying to save him. Vote: swammerdami
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Post by swammerdami on Jul 8, 2014 0:08:13 GMT -5
As promised, Nucky's Fly-by-Nigh Wi_fi fixed his system on the weekend and promises "slightly better performance." Speedtest.net's Upload test usually produces an error after 2 minutes 40 seconds; perhaps slightly better means it will give the error after only 2 minutes 20 seconds. But ... at some point (during his upgrade?) his antenna broke and we'll again be without Internet for at least another day or three. I'm posting this from Internet cafe. Wow! If we were in the Pit I'd call you stupid. First of all, I never voted nor strongly suspected Abstain -- I was prodding him to reveal more to avoid being Lynched. My comments implied this. I wish I'd prodded him harder. Second, my suggestion was that he PM one of the people voting him. Do I have to explain the logic in that? Are you skimming or just stupid? The purpose of he and I exchanging PM's, again as I wrote at the time, was just for two Townies who trusted each other to exchange info. He did send me a very brief one-sentence PM. My main reaction was surprise he'd spend a soapstone to say so little. I still figure you for a Townie, Chronos. I hope you smarten up!
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 8, 2014 4:55:27 GMT -5
Wouldn't getting someone's "stuff" once they're for reals dead be extra incentive for Scum to kill them? "Hey lookie - Town went and hollowed one of their own - now let's get their stuff! Ha ha!". I guess I don't agree with most of you in this.
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Post by Chronos on Jul 8, 2014 5:59:55 GMT -5
I think that the only "stuff" killers get is the victim's soul(s). So far as I know, items follow their owner to the grave, absent intervention of some other power role. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see a few such power roles (we've already seen one, Mahaloth's ability to salvage miracles and sorceries).
swammerdami, you started off the Day by saying that you were going to vote him. Does that not imply that you suspected him?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 8, 2014 7:52:31 GMT -5
Having a few days of R&R after the holiday proper.
I plan in looking deeply at the Abstain votes and voters.
Swammer's word choice of implying that Chronos lacks intelligence by way of suspecting him is also noteworthy. I think such tone deaf statements can indicate scummy attempts to joke. And if it isn't tone deafness, then I'm surprised that Swammer still plays this game.
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Post by texcat on Jul 8, 2014 8:15:02 GMT -5
Vote totals:
swammerdami(1): Chronos[19]
Day Two ends on THURSDAY, JULY 11 at 12:30PM Eastern time.
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Post by MentalGuy on Jul 8, 2014 9:20:16 GMT -5
I don't find it that surprising that scum would kill abstain. While their advantage is the information they have, their disadvantage is the numbers against them. They may have thought it better to reduce those numbers as soon as possible. Getting his soul(s) could have also been motivation. They also do not want to have someone in the game that has the capability of adding players to Town.
I still find Suburban Plankton suspicious, for the same reasons as yesterDay. He has given more explanation since then, but I don't find them convincing, especially since they came after he was voted for. I didn't agree with his analysis of abstain, but I did not see anything in it that necessarily indicated scumminess and his vote was apparently for self-preservation which I do not have a problem with. So, while I still find him suspicious, I don't really have anything additional beyond my original suspicions.
I find BuffTabby's reluctance to believe that Masons do not have their own sideboard odd. Still, the feeling I get is of someone who has formed an opinion and now is forcing everything to fit that opinion, rather than someone who is scum.
I am most suspicious of sinjin. Her vote for abstain joins on a bandwagon and uses misrepresentation and poor reasoning to justify it.
Vote: sinjin
I am not a Dark Souls player and did not realize how obvious my mention of being deprived would be to players that were. My role is "The Deprived". When I signalled that yesterDay, I was hoping that there was someone in the game that would find that important and contact me. My original plan was to fully claim my role if I was not contacted. I have now, however, opted for a different strategy for the time being. One of the things I am deprived of, though, is soapstones (I have one white). I will offer one soul to whoever offers me the most white soapstones.
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Post by bufftabby on Jul 8, 2014 14:58:52 GMT -5
Any true Mason should be able to explain what one or both of these two strings means, and will thus be able to prove themself without other Masons needing to corroborate. It would prove that you and that person were able to communicate with each other. It would lend likelihood to you and such a person being in the same covenant as well. What it would not prove is Masonhood, and whether said covenant has changed, or if it was even WotW to begin with. How many games have you played in that allow this much PMing between players and yet don't have a mason board, or any additional soapstones for PMing fellow Masons? I've played far more games where masons *did* have a dedicated board, but other games are neither here nor there. It seems unlikely to me in *this* game that Masons would have no additional ability to communicate. Requiring players to pay to communicate is more reason to limit mason off-board communications. To continue this conversation from yesterDay: How so?
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Post by peekercpa on Jul 8, 2014 15:43:16 GMT -5
and sorry folks but i am in lala land. the mama whelped them this morning. ten on the ground. the director took her and the pups for a post partum check up. criminy there are still two more in the oven. www.facebook.com/rebecca.zatopekkurtz?fref=ts#!/photo.php?fbid=876395875723873&set=a.265610676802399.86060.100000604068302&type=1&theater¬if_t=photo_reply they are less than five hours old, some as young as just an hour or so. i promise i will get back into the game but right now i've got my hands full. mom only has nine teats. so with ten i already know we have to do bottle feeding. if i add two more then it just gets nuttier.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 8, 2014 15:50:04 GMT -5
So with the clarification that the soul is only collected when someone dies (not hollowed), then I agree Abstain would have been the obvious choice for a scum kill.....thus the obvious choice for any town watcher.....and indeed the obvious choice for mahaloth to track.....if abstain was truthful about his power....which I guess came from a sorcery or miracle....but mahaloth has not offered new stock.
And if mahaloth did not track abstain - I'd really like to know who he thought was a better target to be hollowed and killed in one night
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Post by Chronos on Jul 8, 2014 15:55:25 GMT -5
It would prove that you and that person were able to communicate with each other. It would lend likelihood to you and such a person being in the same covenant as well. What it would not prove is Masonhood, and whether said covenant has changed, or if it was even WotW to begin with. (let's see if I used the auto-quoting correctly; I like how it includes the profile pic) If I'm still alive and another Mason needs to claim, then I'll just say in the thread "Yes, so-and-so is a Mason". It'd still be possible that I'm lying, of course, but such is the way of all masonries. Those code strings will only be relevant if I'm dead, in which case you'll all know my alignment.
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