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Post by The Real FCOD on Oct 7, 2008 8:33:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with Boozy. He's among the more suspicious players on my list and his claimed power is not that critical to the town if I'm wrong. [colorblue]Vote Boozahol Squid, P.I.[/color][/b] --FCOD[/quote]Yaknow, FCOD, this is the second time you've said this. You're really worrying me this game. [/quote]Yaknow, Santo, you've really got it out for me in this game for some reason. I said it before, then I said I was going to re-read. Then I came to my conclusion, and repeated it. I'm sorry, was there some rule against repeating oneself so that people know your motivations? 'Cause if I just placed my vote with no explanation people would jump on me saying, "WHY DO YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR HIM HMMMM??? FOS FOS SUSPICIOUSSSSSS." I'm answered every question you had of me and explained everything logically, but it seems like I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't with you toDay. --FCOD
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 7, 2008 8:54:34 GMT -5
You're pinging me hard, buddy. Don't take it personal.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Oct 7, 2008 8:57:53 GMT -5
That's fine, but when I've explained away everything you say pings you, it makes me think you're just out to get me.
If you just have a gut feeling, fine, but I can't figure out where my story doesn't add up and you're not doing a good enough job of explaining to me why you don't think it does.
--FCOD
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 7, 2008 9:15:03 GMT -5
THREE HOURS REMAIN
YOU ARE CURRENTLY VOTING TO KILL THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE
peekercpa (5) - KidV, Boozahol Squid PI, NAF, hawkeyeop, Almost Human Boozahol Squid PI (5) - Hoopy Frood, bufftabby, zeriel, Greedy Smurf, FDr.HoD NAF1138 (3) - Pollux Oil, misterblockey, Chucara Rysto (1) - peekercpa FlyingCowOfDoom (1) - Nanook zeriel (1) - CatinaSuit MHaye (1) - Rysto Almost Human (1) - Santo Rugger
IT APPEARS THAT WE ARE HEADED TOWARD A PHOTO FINISH HERE TODAY, SO FOR THE RECORD: THIS BOARD'S CLOCK WILL SERVE AS THE OFFICIAL COUNTDOWN CLOCK. THE DAY ENDS AT THE STROKE OF 1:00PM EST AND NOT A SECOND LATER; ANY VOTES WHICH ARE TIME STAMPED 1:00PM OR AFTER WILL NOT COUNT TOWARD THE OFFICIAL TALLY.
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Post by Hawkmod on Oct 7, 2008 9:15:39 GMT -5
I have nothing against one off votes when a person doesn't like any of the top candidates. The quick follow-ups were odd though. It looked like a blatent attempt to get NAF to role-claim. I say that as someone who does find NAF to be a bit scummy. So I'm putting a small check on the scum side of the ledger for Chucara and Hoopy. Ummm...someone's clearly not paying attention here. I am not voting for NAF. In fact, I'm the one that started what has now become a bandwagon against Boozy. (And if my calculations are correct, it's now tied in votes with peeker.) Blockey is the one voting for NAF with Chucara and Pollux. If you're going to have me pinging you, at least have it be for the right reasons. stratch Hoopy, replace with Misterblockey.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 7, 2008 9:27:42 GMT -5
UATU, (or the cute mod), will we learn of a scum's power upon their lynching, if any? Hey, UATU...
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 7, 2008 9:28:45 GMT -5
I'm off to the doc. I think bufftabby gave me chlamydia. Or mono. Or whatever it is she has. I'll be back with a vote in an hour or so.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 7, 2008 9:35:01 GMT -5
UATU, (or the cute mod), will we learn of a scum's power upon their lynching, if any? Hey, UATU...You will learn as much about dead scum as you have learned about previous dead players.
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Post by CatInASuit on Oct 7, 2008 10:18:20 GMT -5
Well, we are still missing votes from
MHaye Darth Sensitive DiggitCamara
with a currently tied lynch.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 7, 2008 10:40:21 GMT -5
You will learn as much about dead scum as you have learned about previous dead players. Well, we learned of Pleonast and Idle's roles with certainty, but "Inventor" for molefan and "Special" for sinjin didn't really tell us much.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 7, 2008 10:42:42 GMT -5
I don't think NAF is a good lynch, simply because we haven't had time to analyze a claim. As for peek, we can all agree he's a huge distraction, but he is funny as fuck. As for booze, he had that huge slip with the WiFoM that it may or not have been a slip. But the only way we'll know is if Peeker dies. I'm going to place my vote onto one of them in the next 20 minutes or so.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 7, 2008 11:17:22 GMT -5
I'm left sitting here trying to work out who to vote for with something around 100 minutes to go (by the forum clock. And I'm completely stuck. What might be worth looking into (if we had the time now) is where the idea arose that Peeker's claim was a roleblocking Miller. I never understood that to be a part of his claim, but many of those who voted for him seemed to think that it was the case. So where did that idea arise from? The big problem with Peeker's claim is that no sane Town can let it lie unchallenged, even if it is true. Once the idea takes root that a claim of Miller gets a free pass, then scum will do it all the time; eventually one will be caught and no-one ever trusts millers again. My opinion on this is that the colour for the role fits a Miller perfectly. Furthermore, if the Legacy virus actually exists, there is a role referenced in the opening colour that is (presumptively) the spreader of the Legacy virus. The Horseman Pestilence. What else would he do? Thus there are elements in place that support Peeker's claim. Set against his claims of ignorance of Marvel comics is the fact that there was a Night Zero, so if he is in fact a Mafiate then this claim could have been set up then. As for the question I asked him last night; it remains open. His response doesn't clear the ambiguity. Well the way I interprted my PM was that if I protected some who was attacked by the Leagacy virus holder that I would learn their game name. Since I protected a player my comfirmation of the successful protection is pretty darn clear. When he said "learn their game name," the presumption is that he sould be talking about the person he inoculated, because it refers back to the previous statement. But that makes no sense. I'm prepared to believe that he simply misstated what he really meant, which was that he learns the attacker's name. But that just leaves me with the sense that he's not answering the question. Maybe I'm reading too much into it; but it is there. Turning my eye on Squiddio for a moment (and I've now been waffling for 45 minutes) there are three small things. I'm not suspicious of him because of the claim's timing. We've seen people get lynched in a few hours, while they've been away from the game, and he did say he was going to be out for a day or so. The slip is the sort of slip that we've seen hang people before. However, the only time I've actually believed it and voted accordingly, we lynched a townsaman. So I'm counting it a null tell, because we know anyone could do it. What does worry me is the suggestion that we lynch him because the power is a misfit to the character. I know nothing about Nightcrawler, so I'd like to ask the players who do know Marvel canon whether calling Nightcrawler a "mutant jack-of-all-trades" is a fair categorisation. That took too long. And I still don't know who to vote for.
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Post by Nanook on Oct 7, 2008 11:27:07 GMT -5
It's time to move my vote. FCOD is still the person I'm most suspicious of, but my vote needs to move for role reasons as you all know.
unvote FCOD[/color]
Vote Chucara[/color]
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 7, 2008 11:29:39 GMT -5
It's time to move my vote. FCOD is still the person I'm most suspicious of, but my vote needs to move for role reasons as you all know. [colorred]unvote FCOD[/color] [colorblue]Vote Chucara[/color][/quote]That's such a cop-out.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 7, 2008 11:30:40 GMT -5
Unvote Almost Human Vote Boozaholic
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 7, 2008 11:35:40 GMT -5
Well, we learned of Pleonast and Idle's roles with certainty, but "Inventor" for molefan and "Special" for sinjin didn't really tell us much. I'm afraid I can't comment on that.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Oct 7, 2008 11:38:41 GMT -5
MHaye, from my knowledge of Nightcrawler (which from watching X2 and reading his Wikipedia article), his only significant power is that he can teleport. He can't assume other forms or disguise himself, in fact he sticks out like a sore thumb because he is blue, covered in tattoos, has three fingered hands and three toed feet, yellow eyes, and a prehensile tail. Doesn't really seem like someone that can assume another identity. BUT we are meta-gaming and we don't know that all powers match the canon. --FCOD
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Post by KidVermicious on Oct 7, 2008 11:41:18 GMT -5
Work is busy. I wish I had more time.
I've just finished a reread of toDay. I'm getting pings from several players, but they're all very vague and WIFOMy. One of those players is NAF, but I don't see nearly enough to buy a vote there, yet.
This leaves Squidio and Peeker. If the cephalopod slipped, we'll know it when we know Peekers alignment. And I still don't trust Peeker. Nothing has really changed for me since I set out my case this Morning - the claim still feels staged, after several re-reads, and I don't see a better candidate today. I think I'm leaving my vote where it is.
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Post by bufftabby on Oct 7, 2008 11:41:51 GMT -5
I'm off to the doc. I think bufftabby gave me chlamydia. Or mono. Or whatever it is she has. I'll be back with a vote in an hour or so. Whatever, dude. You know I got that shit from you. Srsly, whatever I have sucks. I want my money back.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Oct 7, 2008 11:43:55 GMT -5
Good god, I never made it back with a vote last night - hurt self playing intramural soccer.
But I made it on in time.
Thoughts -
Peeker - I never thought he claimed blocker, but as was argued (by NAF?) a few pages back, we won't be able to confirm him as town, which is a killer in the end game. We don't need confirmed town to win it, but treating someone who investigates as scum as a town member without question can very much come back to bite us - This isn't another Santo Rugger as the Obviously Innocent Townie situation - as I understand it, an investigation of him would have turned up town.
Vote Peeker
Vote subject to change during reread.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Oct 7, 2008 11:45:35 GMT -5
Vote subject to change during reread. Better make it a fast reread if you wanna change it, hehe. Day ends in like 15 minutes. --FCOD
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 7, 2008 11:49:59 GMT -5
Ten, actually. The vote stands at 6-6, and since Boozy made it to six before peeker, it will be Boozy who dies if the game ends in a tie. Happy lynching!
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Post by Chucara on Oct 7, 2008 11:52:09 GMT -5
Damn it, I was really meaning to move to Booze by now, but the lynch seems so damn uncertain. But the only other candidate I have is peeker - mostly because he is extremely distracting.
Well, if I have to take a stance, I will unvote NAF vote Boozaholic
Not because I'm even remotely certain that he is scum, but for the following reasons: (I have to hurry here)
- His powers don't really match Nightcrawler - His role PM is basically lifted from Wikipedia - While peeker is a huge distraction, I doubt he is scum
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Post by Chucara on Oct 7, 2008 11:55:24 GMT -5
Ok, I made it. Like I said, I'm really uncertain about this one, but the more I read the roleclaim, the more fishy it seems to me, while peekers seems to match well with FCOD's claim.
I was originally keen on lynching peeker, but mostly out of fear not to kill an investigator. But his claim seems so scummy that I simply can't vote peeker right now.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Oct 7, 2008 11:56:14 GMT -5
Squiddy - I'm not seeing the train on him. I'm not entirely certain where his idea of peeker being a roleblocker came from, but it's something that would be shown by a peeker lynch if it came from scum commo. I can see his power working as a backup role. It's not what I would use as the first for Nightcrawler, but thinking about it, a lot of what he does is *bamf*ing to grab someone and *bamf* to safety or *bamf*ing to scout ahead - and that works as a doc or investigator. He's versatile, and in at least one continuity, has a holo disguise thingy. I am adopting a wait and see attitude.
I'm still suspicious of FCoD - he's pinging me hardcore, but I don't have anything solid to go on. But I'm leaving my vote on peeker.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 7, 2008 11:57:43 GMT -5
I'm off to the doc. I think bufftabby gave me chlamydia. Or mono. Or whatever it is she has. I'll be back with a vote in an hour or so. Whatever, dude. You know I got that shit from you. Srsly, whatever I have sucks. I want my money back. Well, they drew blood, so I'll let you know when the results come in.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Oct 7, 2008 11:58:05 GMT -5
Really? I'm getting more comfortable with the Boozy role claim, and if he doesn't back it up soon, then we can stretch him.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 7, 2008 11:58:39 GMT -5
*bamf*?
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 7, 2008 11:59:44 GMT -5
There's no real prospect of lynching anyone other than Peeker or BS PI now.
Both players have claims that suffer from being the sort of claim a scum might easily make, and both players have stirred up a lot of waffle. So from the "clear the air" perspective, either are good lynches.
Both have roles that might be testable, but there's no way to do so where we can guarantee results even if the scum interfere.
Lynching Peeker might tell us more about BS PI (if they are both scum, and that's a big "if"). Peeker's claim is a better fit to canon flavour than BS PI's though.
So how important is canon? From prior games, I suspect that Storyteller likes to twist and shape canon to his own ends. But BS PI's is a bigger shift than the only one I know with certainty. My own.
So I'm going to Vote BS PI.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Oct 7, 2008 12:00:34 GMT -5
The onamatapoeia (sp) for his teleporting.
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