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Nov 22, 2008 10:11:07 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Nov 22, 2008 10:11:07 GMT -5
So to the important question. Is there some significance to ... mushrooms? I just think the creators of SMB were into psilocybin. After all, the original Mario Bros. game had the Koopas, but there was no Mushroom Kingdom shit until SMB. I mean the guy eats a mushroom and then increases in size. We're talking perception distortion here.
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Nov 22, 2008 10:12:24 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Nov 22, 2008 10:12:24 GMT -5
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Nov 22, 2008 10:15:29 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Nov 22, 2008 10:15:29 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I hate claims on the first day for no reason at all. And the time lag between the two posts, hmmmmm.
IDLE: Can the the scum puppies talk during the day?
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Nov 22, 2008 10:18:52 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Nov 22, 2008 10:18:52 GMT -5
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Nov 22, 2008 10:31:52 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Nov 22, 2008 10:31:52 GMT -5
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Nov 22, 2008 11:17:15 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Nov 22, 2008 11:17:15 GMT -5
Good morning everyone! Nice to see some familiar faces here!
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Nov 22, 2008 11:18:00 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Nov 22, 2008 11:18:00 GMT -5
Let's get this out of the way first: I'm a Koopa Trooper, vanilla town. I suspect all the other vanilla town are probably either low-level mooks or Koopa Troopers like myself. I'm claiming now because making it 1/25 more likely that the scum will night-kill a power role seems a small price to pay to avoid my inevitable mislynch, which seems to happen around here whenever I open my mouth nowadays. I really don't like it when someone claims vanilla town out of the blue. I always like it when these claims are discussed first. Also - I'm not saying you are NOT vanilla Town... but you really don't expect me to believe you just because you claim it? Saying you are vanilla Town is not a protection agaist a mislynch (would be great if it was - but that's not how the game is played where I come from...) And what is TYVM??? As a general rule I don't like it either, however, from what I've seen of moley in previous games he tends to claim early and hope to not get lynched. It doesn't seem to have worked yet but you gotta admire him for persistance. Anyway, I don't see it as an indication either way of allignment. I don't think it's that useful to try and work out people's allignments based on names alone but I know people do it anyway and if it generates discussion then it's all good as long as it doesn't make anyone inadvertently give themselves or their role away. Talking of which as this is a closed game we've really no clue as to what's what and who's who in this game which, IMO makes it more interesting. On the down side we're very short of information so it's going to be hard to decide on a first Day candidate.
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Nov 22, 2008 12:48:20 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Nov 22, 2008 12:48:20 GMT -5
Umm...where does it mention Koopa Troopa in the Vanilla Town PM that Idle posted?
Care to explain?
--FCOD
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Nov 22, 2008 13:07:48 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Nov 22, 2008 13:07:48 GMT -5
Hey all! Sorry for the delay, I was at school all day yesterday and those killjoys have blocked the site.
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Nov 22, 2008 13:22:33 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Nov 22, 2008 13:22:33 GMT -5
Woo hoo! Here we go again. My participation will be limited this weekend, as I wrap up the last weekend of the last show I'm doing for a while, but after that I'll be as obnoxiously chatty as always. Interesting stuff so far.
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Nov 22, 2008 13:31:28 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 22, 2008 13:31:28 GMT -5
Hey all. I probably won't be around much this weekend, and I have family in town starting Wednesday and going through until Monday, so my time will be limited to mostly Monday and Tuesday for this cycle. But after that I am all yours.
Just don't go nuts with the posting until I get back, I would like to have a fair shot at catching up, you know?
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Nov 22, 2008 13:45:18 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Nov 22, 2008 13:45:18 GMT -5
Umm...where does it mention Koopa Troopa in the Vanilla Town PM that Idle posted? Care to explain? --FCOD I imagine it mentions it right about here (from the sign-up thread, underlining mine): Update: Successfully have all the characters that I'm going to use in the game listed. Everyone will have a character name (although not all of the characters will be power roles--they'll just all have names).And before anyone thinks of a mass name claim (or a role claim)--I have already taken a couple steps to prevent that. Obviously. Oh boy, this game is going to be GOOD. Obviously, the name or names of the vanillas being left out of the sample PM is one of the steps to reduce the efficiency of a mass name claim. Idle ain't stoopid, ya know.
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Nov 22, 2008 13:48:41 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Nov 22, 2008 13:48:41 GMT -5
Umm...where does it mention Koopa Troopa in the Vanilla Town PM that Idle posted? Care to explain? --FCOD Tried to do that mulitquote thing but buggered if I can figure it out. Anyway, Idle posted in the sign up thread: (bolding mine) So I think it's safe to assume that vanilla roles would have a name assigned to them along with the standard text.
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Nov 22, 2008 13:51:03 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Nov 22, 2008 13:51:03 GMT -5
Ha ha! I beat you!
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Nov 22, 2008 13:52:11 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Nov 22, 2008 13:52:11 GMT -5
Kat's are always quick on their paws lol
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Nov 22, 2008 13:57:36 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Nov 22, 2008 13:57:36 GMT -5
I further suspect that the dodgy Italian Godfather is either Mario himself, or Luigi sent mad through jealous rage because all of his games are slightly worse than his brother's. Either's possible. As a Koopa Trooper, I rather hope it's Mario. FCoD has already addressed the first part of this post, so I'll be waiting expectantly for your response to that, but the above part also gave me pause. Why in the Sam Hill do you think the godfather would be one of the boys? You think we are necessarily fighting the "good" guys here? I am not on board with that.
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Nov 22, 2008 14:59:02 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Nov 22, 2008 14:59:02 GMT -5
Oh, and does anybody else think that Santo Plugger should be Santo Plunger instead?
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Nov 22, 2008 16:59:36 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Nov 22, 2008 16:59:36 GMT -5
Hi everyone - just popping in to say hello. I don't know how much I'll be around the next few days, as I have a birthday coming up.
As it seems most games start with a discussion of a mass claim, are we doing that in this game as well, or are we just skipping it as Idle seems to have a mechanism in place to avoid giving us an advantage in doing so?
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Nov 22, 2008 17:27:15 GMT -5
Post by Holy Moley! on Nov 22, 2008 17:27:15 GMT -5
I further suspect that the dodgy Italian Godfather is either Mario himself, or Luigi sent mad through jealous rage because all of his games are slightly worse than his brother's. Either's possible. As a Koopa Trooper, I rather hope it's Mario. FCoD has already addressed the first part of this post, so I'll be waiting expectantly for your response to that, but the above part also gave me pause. Why in the Sam Hill do you think the godfather would be one of the boys? You think we are necessarily fighting the "good" guys here? I am not on board with that. Well, I'm a mook, and a good guy. And last time I was Arcade, a sociopath, and a good guy. Given that Bowser and Mario enjoy playing go-karts together, it doesn't seem too much of a stretch that they might team up once in a while as bad guys. I think it's been proven time and time again on this board that alignment of character doesn't necessarily coincide with alignment of role. But specifically addressing the Godfather issue - is there another character in the Marioverse (bearing in mind the last game I played from it was SMB3, and that was almost fifteen years ago now) other than Luigi and Mario who has a dodgy Italian accent? That and Godfathers seem to go hand in hand - look at Brando. It's a guess, that's all. Hell, just because I can't turn around and keep walking off cliffs, doesn't mean I don't have ideas once in a while. To Almost Human, Peeker and others: Y'know, this is the first time I've made a full role claim at the start. - In "Batman" I made a partial role-claim and looked like getting burned for it. - In "Skrull" I also made a partial role-claim and people used it as an excuse for why they were voting me (although nobody actually did so until I opposed the lynching of a claimed soon-to-be-confirmed doctor, protecting a power role, which incredible piece of stupidity got dozens on Pleonast's "lynch molefan" bandwagon. Nice going there guys!) - In "Apocalypse" I didn't say anything about my role because one aspect of it was to try and get imprisoned. Unfortunately I got mod-shafted instead. - And in "Gastard" I didn't make any role claim at all, at least not until I was practically already dead anyway, but I'd pretty much killed myself already by then. So I thought I'd try something different this time and give you the whole enchilada. It's not hard: I'm a koopa trooper, vanilla town. That's it. I think any risk that that entails is more than balanced out by the decreased likelihood of my getting lynched this round.
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Nov 22, 2008 17:33:13 GMT -5
Post by Holy Moley! on Nov 22, 2008 17:33:13 GMT -5
Umm...where does it mention Koopa Troopa in the Vanilla Town PM that Idle posted? Care to explain? --FCOD Me? Explain what? Koopa Trooper is what I am, it's my role. Vanilla town is my power (or more specifically lack of it). Or were you talking to someone else?
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Nov 22, 2008 18:30:27 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Nov 22, 2008 18:30:27 GMT -5
FCoD has already addressed the first part of this post, so I'll be waiting expectantly for your response to that, but the above part also gave me pause. Why in the Sam Hill do you think the godfather would be one of the boys? You think we are necessarily fighting the "good" guys here? I am not on board with that. Well, I'm a mook, and a good guy. And last time I was Arcade, a sociopath, and a good guy. Given that Bowser and Mario enjoy playing go-karts together, it doesn't seem too much of a stretch that they might team up once in a while as bad guys. I think it's been proven time and time again on this board that alignment of character doesn't necessarily coincide with alignment of role. Well, yeah, that's why I was so confused. I know perfectly well that canon and roles need not match up, so I don't know why you'd look for anyone in particular to be the godfather. Wario. Waluigi. But really, I think it could be anybody. I didn't say that your original remark was scummy; I merely don't understand your reasoning. It's not really that important; it just seemed an odd assumption to me.
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Nov 22, 2008 19:42:58 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 22, 2008 19:42:58 GMT -5
Uh Molie Nurse Ratchett has your Meds at the nursing station.
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Nov 22, 2008 21:10:24 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Nov 22, 2008 21:10:24 GMT -5
In "Batman" I made a partial role-claim and looked like getting burned for it. - In "Skrull" I also made a partial role-claim and people used it as an excuse for why they were voting me (although nobody actually did so until I opposed the lynching of a claimed soon-to-be-confirmed doctor, protecting a power role, which incredible piece of stupidity got dozens on Pleonast's "lynch molefan" bandwagon. Nice going there guys!) - In "Apocalypse" I didn't say anything about my role because one aspect of it was to try and get imprisoned. Unfortunately I got mod-shafted instead. - And in "Gastard" I didn't make any role claim at all, at least not until I was practically already dead anyway, but I'd pretty much killed myself already by then. So I thought I'd try something different this time and give you the whole enchilada. It's not hard: I'm a koopa trooper, vanilla town. That's it. I think any risk that that entails is more than balanced out by the decreased likelihood of my getting lynched this round. Didn't you claim Leper in the Gastard game? Or am I thinking of somebody else?
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Nov 22, 2008 21:13:15 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Nov 22, 2008 21:13:15 GMT -5
Wario. Waluigi. But really, I think it could be anybody. I didn't say that your original remark was scummy; I merely don't understand your reasoning. It's not really that important; it just seemed an odd assumption to me. I'm Wario*. I'm-a gonna win. * not really Wario. Role claim void in all 50 states and Denmark. And Australia. And most everywhere else.
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Nov 22, 2008 21:19:10 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Nov 22, 2008 21:19:10 GMT -5
Wario. Waluigi. But really, I think it could be anybody. I didn't say that your original remark was scummy; I merely don't understand your reasoning. It's not really that important; it just seemed an odd assumption to me. I'm Wario*. I'm-a gonna win. * not really Wario. Role claim void in all 50 states and Denmark. And Australia. And most everywhere else. I live in Canada...role claim noted!
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Nov 22, 2008 21:19:22 GMT -5
Post by special on Nov 22, 2008 21:19:22 GMT -5
OK, a vanilla claim already. Those of you who play with me on facebook know how I feel about that...Is there a good reason not to vote for him?
Idle, how odd, you're playing my my game and I'm playing in your game. Let's race and see who can finish their game first :-) This had better be a good game, or I'll mod kill you over there.
and, btw, if anyone is not playing in my FB game and might want to sub there. It looks like I might need 1 or 2. It's a cozy small game of 33 right now, and currently in Night 0.
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Nov 22, 2008 22:23:00 GMT -5
Post by Holy Moley! on Nov 22, 2008 22:23:00 GMT -5
OK, a vanilla claim already. Those of you who play with me on facebook know how I feel about that...Is there a good reason not to vote for him? Uh... because I'm a vanilla townie. I don't play on Facebook, and if "first round vanilla claims = scum" is an assumption that prevails there, you should re-examine some of your assumptions for this board. I've had to do some re-examining of that kind several times since I was here, and last round one of them - combined with some mind-blowingly stupid town play - got me a first-day lynch. Point is, what applies on other boards often doesn't apply here, and vice versa. As to why I've claimed: I didn't want to make the same mistake three times (partial role-claims having got me into trouble here twice). No claim at all hasn't worked out much better for me, and so I've gone with full disclosure this time.
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Nov 22, 2008 22:27:26 GMT -5
Post by Holy Moley! on Nov 22, 2008 22:27:26 GMT -5
In "Batman" I made a partial role-claim and looked like getting burned for it. - In "Skrull" I also made a partial role-claim and people used it as an excuse for why they were voting me (although nobody actually did so until I opposed the lynching of a claimed soon-to-be-confirmed doctor, protecting a power role, which incredible piece of stupidity got dozens on Pleonast's "lynch molefan" bandwagon. Nice going there guys!) - In "Apocalypse" I didn't say anything about my role because one aspect of it was to try and get imprisoned. Unfortunately I got mod-shafted instead. - And in "Gastard" I didn't make any role claim at all, at least not until I was practically already dead anyway, but I'd pretty much killed myself already by then. So I thought I'd try something different this time and give you the whole enchilada. It's not hard: I'm a koopa trooper, vanilla town. That's it. I think any risk that that entails is more than balanced out by the decreased likelihood of my getting lynched this round. Didn't you claim Leper in the Gastard game? Or am I thinking of somebody else? No, that was someone else, the scum "bomb". I did eventually claim Colonel Kurtz, but that was after Darth Sensitive had outed me and I had to claim something.
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Nov 22, 2008 22:33:36 GMT -5
Post by special on Nov 22, 2008 22:33:36 GMT -5
OK, a vanilla claim already. Those of you who play with me on facebook know how I feel about that...Is there a good reason not to vote for him? Uh... because I'm a vanilla townie. I don't play on Facebook, and if "first round vanilla claims = scum" is an assumption that prevails there, you should re-examine some of your assumptions for this board. I've had to do some re-examining of that kind several times since I was here, and last round one of them - combined with some mind-blowingly stupid town play - got me a first-day lynch. Point is, what applies on other boards often doesn't apply here, and vice versa. As to why I've claimed: I didn't want to make the same mistake three times (partial role-claims having got me into trouble here twice). No claim at all hasn't worked out much better for me, and so I've gone with full disclosure this time. It has nothing to do with where I'm playing. It just seems an odd approach to the game. A first Day vanilla claim just seems anti-town to me. Granted, you've diminished the scum pool by just one person, but for what purpose? To survive longer? Isn't the point to get a Town win and not just survive longer? Or are your skills as a Vanilla that valuable to Town? Or, if I'm missing something here and it's a good strategy for Town, shouldn't all the Vanilla claim now? Or, perhaps you're hoping more people will follow your lead. I guess, in the end, if you're being honest, I see your approach as not helping Town in the least and helping Scum a little. So that still leaves me with the same question
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Nov 22, 2008 23:57:15 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Nov 22, 2008 23:57:15 GMT -5
I think, with regard to molefan, that we are going to run into trouble. I agree that the vanilla role claim is odd; I think moley tends to play a little bit more of an individual game than a team one, regardless of which side he's on. But - and I've struggled with this point as much as anyone - at some point we are going to have to collectively embrace the simple fact that "a play I don't agree with" isn't the same as "a scummy play." I don't see much evident pro-Town upside to molefan'[s/]b play, but nor do I see a specific Scum motivation underlying it. Pending further information, I'll view it as a null tell.
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