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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 17:19:12 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 2, 2008 17:19:12 GMT -5
miteymouse - I don't like this post. You accuse chuc of trying to allign with TL but don't explain how he's supposed to be doing it. You then go on to give examples of why he might be doing it depending on whether he's town or scum and whether Total is town or scum. No. The point mitey brought up was that they might both be scum; but why would one scum try to align themselves with another. It wouldn't make sense. Didn't actually answer your question did I? I don't know why two scum would ally with each other. No it doesn't make sense but then a lot of things people do don't make sense.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 17:18:09 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 2, 2008 17:18:09 GMT -5
Yeah that was one of the points she brought up. I still don't see how she sees chuc as trying to allign with Total under any circumstances though other than partially agreeing on her lynch the lurker theory. I agree with most of your sentiments* on the matter, but I still don't understand why she assumes aligning yourself with TL would be a good thing. FOS miteymouse
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 17:20:25 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 2, 2008 17:20:25 GMT -5
So you guys are saying mmouse is not a flake? Is there anyway she/he could have a post restriction thing going on? It's possible - if she's only allowed to post once a Day, though, that'd kinda suck. I'm not saying she's not a flake, at all. I don't know whats going on with her. But she's been on multiple times since her last post, she has to know there's heat building, and I don't know if she's played enough to know that it isn't personal or what. Thats a really long sentence, right there. As I said; that's the definition of a lurker, not a flake.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 17:39:33 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Dec 2, 2008 17:39:33 GMT -5
How are you being misinterpreted? You supported TL on her lynch the lurker theory....even to it's faults. You voted for me as opposed to someone that had no content. This to me looks like you are trying to align yourself with her. Vote chucaraI'm being misinterpreted if you get from me agreeing with TL that I must also therefore seek to be associated with her. I voted for you because you were the one with the fewest posts and no reason for not being around. I did not double check her list as I didn't expect to keep my vote on you. My vote on you might as well have been a random lurker. And I moved it once you started participation. I don't really get your vote though.. Is it a delayed OMGUS, or do you think that the list was scummy? In which case.. shouldn't you be voting for TL? (I'm not suggesting that you do.. just trying to understand the logic behind the votes for me, as they all seem to be for different reasons.. well two seem to be mostly because I've managed to piss people off somehow (which isn't necessarily a bad thing for us)). Rugger's vote, I'm not really sure of. I think the list was in and of itself alright...subjective but alright. What I'm voting for is that you blindly followed her theory. That being said it did get me talking but, her vote would have done that by itself. I just see that you followed too tightly behind her with the whole thing and that makes me suspicious.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 19:03:02 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Dec 2, 2008 19:03:02 GMT -5
*is poked by Idle Thoughts* Ow! What was that for?
Yeah, I haven't said much, but toDay has been, for the large part, substance free (other than the molefan/shaggy stuff). Rather than clutter the thread up with noise I've been hanging back doing stuff pertaining to real life.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 19:11:15 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Dec 2, 2008 19:11:15 GMT -5
*is poked by Idle Thoughts* Ow! What was that for? Yeah, I haven't said much, but toDay has been, for the large part, substance free (other than the molefan/shaggy stuff). Rather than clutter the thread up with noise I've been hanging back doing stuff pertaining to real life. Methinks someone hasn't been paying attention to the game recently. I would call this one of the more substantive Day 1's I have seen in quite a few games.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 19:25:36 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 2, 2008 19:25:36 GMT -5
*is poked by Idle Thoughts* Ow! What was that for? Yeah, I haven't said much, but toDay has been, for the large part, substance free (other than the molefan/shaggy stuff). Rather than clutter the thread up with noise I've been hanging back doing stuff pertaining to real life. Seriously? It might not all be dense and chewy with useful information, but nothing worth interpreting or commenting on in 20 pages?
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 20:01:56 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 2, 2008 20:01:56 GMT -5
*is poked by Idle Thoughts* Ow! What was that for? Yeah, I haven't said much, but toDay has been, for the large part, substance free (other than the molefan/shaggy stuff). Rather than clutter the thread up with noise I've been hanging back doing stuff pertaining to real life. Wow. That's definitely the first time anyone has answered a charge of lurking with the defense of "yup, I was lurking."
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 20:03:27 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Dec 2, 2008 20:03:27 GMT -5
May I add some in the general direction of DBI? ( story, I will respond to you after work. I catch up on my break, but have little time to post substance.)
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 20:08:35 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Dec 2, 2008 20:08:35 GMT -5
I'm taking too long over assessing Total Lost. I've developed what feels like a case of eyestrain. Maybe it;s the posting at 1am that's doing it. I took a sample of the players (chosen really at my whim, but I tried to get players with a reasonably wide number of content posts, according to TL. I included Mitey Mouse (of course) but also reviewed Hoopy Frood, Kat, NAF and Nanook. My assessment of the game content in these player's posts is not identical to TL's, but none of them are outrageously far off. Thus I conclude (unless something comes up that casts the posts in a new light) that D1.231 was probably honestly compiled. For now, I'm going to set TL aside and review someone else. But not until tomorrow afternoon.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 20:58:53 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 2, 2008 20:58:53 GMT -5
OK, wow. Miss a little miss a lot.
I'll quote the posts on this page I want to respond to, but I'm going to go from my notes on the 2 posts back a few pages.
Idle's 4th option? Multiple Scum groups? Might be apparent with 2 NKs in Night 1?
Story I didn't feel our interaction was a debacle. I was surprised to have votes on me, and when I re-read, I realized that people were just misinterpreting what I said. Once it was cleared up, it seemed to go away. I'm not thinking the use of the word debacle was wrong though. It's a fun word :-) I also think it was used by people wondering why I still had votes on me, when I'm oh so obviously innocent. I didn't think it seemed scummy to leave that vote on me, but apparently others did. As far as I'm concerned, even that is in the past, but it'll stay in the back of my mind.
I do still stand by what I said, however, it did seem to me to be a possible set-up, but it's still not enough to warrant a vote from me. Like I said then, something about it was displeasing to me.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 21:02:12 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 2, 2008 21:02:12 GMT -5
I'm taking too long over assessing Total Lost. I've developed what feels like a case of eyestrain. Maybe it;s the posting at 1am that's doing it. I took a sample of the players (chosen really at my whim, but I tried to get players with a reasonably wide number of content posts, according to TL. I included Mitey Mouse (of course) but also reviewed Hoopy Frood, Kat, NAF and Nanook. My assessment of the game content in these player's posts is not identical to TL's, but none of them are outrageously far off. Thus I conclude (unless something comes up that casts the posts in a new light) that D1.231 was probably honestly compiled. For now, I'm going to set TL aside and review someone else. But not until tomorrow afternoon. I don't think the question in total's case was IF her numbers were accurate, but what was the reasoning behind using some of the numbers and not others? The data wasn't used objectively. It was used very subjectively. why? She gave no real reasons. If she was singling some people out as scummy and looking at the most lurkish of those, she didn't say so. She only presented the numbers and picked a couple of the more lurkish to single out, leaving more lurkish people alone. I'm not ready to set her aside. (but I am ready to lock her in the bathroom)
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 21:05:43 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 2, 2008 21:05:43 GMT -5
*is poked by Idle Thoughts* Ow! What was that for? Yeah, I haven't said much, but toDay has been, for the large part, substance free (other than the molefan/shaggy stuff). Rather than clutter the thread up with noise I've been hanging back doing stuff pertaining to real life. I realize I'm chiming in here, but I think many of the discussions have been MORE substantial than the mole/shaggy catastrophe (hey, it's a synonym for debacle). And I say that even though I think I'm the one who was most vocal against mole for his claim.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 21:12:12 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 2, 2008 21:12:12 GMT -5
oh and
unvote whoever
is that valid?
unvote shaggy
just in case
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 22:23:22 GMT -5
Post by shaggy on Dec 2, 2008 22:23:22 GMT -5
shaggy: I don't like that he votes and smudges people without providing a real reason that he can be held accountable for later. However, he is pardoned by the fact that I can't imagine molefan just running away if he screwed up as scum and that he is a new player. I will however strongly encourage that all player try to articulate the reasons for their votes. Ok here is a full explanation as to my suspicions. Totallost : I was at first cause of here lynch-the lurker idea, specifically suspecting, not accusing, miteymouse for lurking. Then wondering if the increased talking by miteymouse is cause of a genuine interest in helping the town or because of her simply pointing out the fact that she was lurking. This seemed odd to me, however after due thought I decided that she may have a valid point and therefore my suspicion was not overly warranted. For that I am sorry. Mr special Ed : I found it odd his posts towards storyteller . However once again after due thought, I decided that if I were in his shoes I would likely be the same way. So I should cut him a break. So my suspicions on him dropped. chucara : My suspicions on you were the I would rather lynch a town post. Which seemed a little odd to me. Not enough by by it's self to warrant a vote but it just seemed there was something off by it. I voted for you cause despite me saying this. You were like "dude, what is with the suspicion? You have not said why." Which I had said my reason, granted it maybe hard to find in the garbled posts, but it was there. After thinking about it, I can see why you may find it hard to understand my suspicions on people. FCOD was a genuine mistake on my part, since I did not see that a there was a vanilla town PM thread. On FB they never post the vanilla PM, so the fact that it is posted here confused me. I am truly sorry for that mistake. I do owe you an apology, so I am sorry. So you see I had said what my suspicions were, granted they may not be strong one's but they are at least mildly valid ones. And I do realize it may have been hard to see those in the garbled mess. However after catching up on the reading, I am going to unvote chucara. This is cause I am feeling like we both have had a hard time understanding each other and therefore loosing site of the real goal, finding the scum. Also something today jumped at me. *is poked by Idle Thoughts* Ow! What was that for? Yeah, I haven't said much, but toDay has been, for the large part, substance free (other than the molefan/shaggy stuff). Rather than clutter the thread up with noise I've been hanging back doing stuff pertaining to real life. I know a few others have posted on this but I just wanted to express my thoughts on it. please clarify for me have you been here reading the whole time and not posting? If that is true I find that odd. Cause even though most of the day has been about me, and I may not enjoy it overly. At the same time I am looking at it as a good way to see people's responses and therefore help all of us learn a thing or 2. Yet I look at this post and get the idea that you have no opinion on me or any other players in regards to the events of today? Don't take this the wrong way since I don’t know what alignment you are, I just can't help but think. This seems to me not to be pro-town. So if you could please clarify and get more vocal on your thoughts of not just me but everyone, I would find that to be really helpful.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 22:31:18 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 2, 2008 22:31:18 GMT -5
shaggy: I don't like that he votes and smudges people without providing a real reason that he can be held accountable for later. However, he is pardoned by the fact that I can't imagine molefan just running away if he screwed up as scum and that he is a new player. I will however strongly encourage that all player try to articulate the reasons for their votes. Ok here is a full explanation as to my suspicions. Totallost : I was at first cause of here lynch-the lurker idea, specifically suspecting, not accusing, miteymouse for lurking. Then wondering if the increased talking by miteymouse is cause of a genuine interest in helping the town or because of her simply pointing out the fact that she was lurking. This seemed odd to me, however after due thought I decided that she may have a valid point and therefore my suspicion was not overly warranted. For that I am sorry. Mr special Ed : I found it odd his posts towards storyteller . However once again after due thought, I decided that if I were in his shoes I would likely be the same way. So I should cut him a break. So my suspicions on him dropped. chucara : My suspicions on you were the I would rather lynch a town post. Which seemed a little odd to me. Not enough by by it's self to warrant a vote but it just seemed there was something off by it. I voted for you cause despite me saying this. You were like "dude, what is with the suspicion? You have not said why." Which I had said my reason, granted it maybe hard to find in the garbled posts, but it was there. After thinking about it, I can see why you may find it hard to understand my suspicions on people. FCOD was a genuine mistake on my part, since I did not see that a there was a vanilla town PM thread. On FB they never post the vanilla PM, so the fact that it is posted here confused me. I am truly sorry for that mistake. I do owe you an apology, so I am sorry. So you see I had said what my suspicions were, granted they may not be strong one's but they are at least mildly valid ones. And I do realize it may have been hard to see those in the garbled mess. However after catching up on the reading, I am going to unvote chucara. This is cause I am feeling like we both have had a hard time understanding each other and therefore loosing site of the real goal, finding the scum. Also something today jumped at me. *is poked by Idle Thoughts* Ow! What was that for? Yeah, I haven't said much, but toDay has been, for the large part, substance free (other than the molefan/shaggy stuff). Rather than clutter the thread up with noise I've been hanging back doing stuff pertaining to real life. I know a few others have posted on this but I just wanted to express my thoughts on it. please clarify for me have you been here reading the whole time and not posting? If that is true I find that odd. Cause even though most of the day has been about me, and I may not enjoy it overly. At the same time I am looking at it as a good way to see people's responses and therefore help all of us learn a thing or 2. Yet I look at this post and get the idea that you have no opinion on me or any other players in regards to the events of today? Don't take this the wrong way since I don’t know what alignment you are, I just can't help but think. This seems to me not to be pro-town. So if you could please clarify and get more vocal on your thoughts of not just me but everyone, I would find that to be really helpful. So, what you're saying is, you suspected a lot of people, based on suspicions that other people had stated before you. And then, you decided to not suspect them anymore once called on it. And NOW, you're suspecting someone after a few other people have posted the same suspicions? I realize it's hard to pick a bandwagon, but you're jumping from one to the other.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 22:45:05 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 2, 2008 22:45:05 GMT -5
My last post may have come off more snippy than I meant it to.
I'm a little frustrated with how difficult it is to get a good read in this game. It almost might be a relief to be killed and get spoiled. It's not like I ever make it to endgame anyway. :-)
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 23:03:29 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Dec 2, 2008 23:03:29 GMT -5
Okay, okay, so there was more going on. I was being facetious. It's just really, really frustrating to slog through 20+ pages of stuff, at least half of which is pointless noise.
Maybe I should go back to taking notes...
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 23:09:23 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 2, 2008 23:09:23 GMT -5
Okie Dokie. Spurs up by ten with two to play in the third. Then lose to the cussed Pistons by twelve. I am ranting and raving because my brother in law is a big Detroit fan. He wanted to know what all the brouhaha was about.
I tell him it is a debacle. A debacle, I say.
I go home.
My thirteen year old that watched the game with grandpa at home said that he thought it it looked more like a cluster fuck (thirty percent with seven turnovers in the fourth quarter does put it on that qualification page). Something that he would have seen in WW II, or so he mentions.
I assured her that, no, it was not a cluster fuck but yet it did rise past a brouhaha. It was just a debacle. An old fashoined debacle.
A debacle, I say.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 23:22:54 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 2, 2008 23:22:54 GMT -5
I personally prefer FUBAR or SNAFU, I'm a traditionalist.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 23:26:27 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 2, 2008 23:26:27 GMT -5
Okay, okay, so there was more going on. I was being facetious. It's just really, really frustrating to slog through 20+ pages of stuff, at least half of which is pointless noise. Maybe I should go back to taking notes... Well not like I can throw more gas on your fire unless you have multiple votes. But seriously, WTF. You do a drive by with a lame ass reason. You then say that there is not a lot going on to not change said lame ass vote because not a lot has been said. BTW, ain't quoting, just paraphrasing so if I've got you wrong please feel free to correct me. I'm with some of the others that as a first day this has been one of the more informative ones. Lenghty maybe, but no one promised Cliff Notes. Yeepers Peepers. What a debacle.
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Day One
Dec 2, 2008 23:42:29 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 2, 2008 23:42:29 GMT -5
And this is the last I will say on this matter until sleep and coffee weave their therapeutic benefits.
If I were Spongebob we would not be talking about the debacle, we would be talking about the debarnacle. Rots ship's hulls and is just basically a critter for making our pirate life more difficult.
So, for me, no more debacles and for sure no more debarnacles. That is unless Squidio shows up. He might be hungry, for all we know.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Dec 3, 2008 0:05:14 GMT -5
Howdy, everyone!
So you know how they have those 'I may be away for a while' threads? I didn't use it.
Squid's back, ready for action, and perhaps even up to the task of reading 23 pages. Thoughts later. Probably tomorrow. If tomorrow is still part of toDay. Otherwise, I'm sure I'll have tons to say (or at least a poorly thought out grudge vote) toMorrow.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 3, 2008 0:59:22 GMT -5
YEP, Mr Special Ed, just an UNVOTE (well, in red) is all that's needed and usually all that's used on sites like mafiascum.net.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 3, 2008 1:00:25 GMT -5
mmouse - 4 votes (KidV, Kat, misterblockey, Hoopy Frood) DBI - 3 votes (Flyingblankofdoom, Chucara, sinjin) Chucara - 2 votes (Santo Rugger, miteymouse) Mr Special Ed - 2 votes (zeriel, Cookies) Total Lost - 1 vote (Peekercpa) Peekercpa - 1 vote (DBI) bufftabby - 1 vote (storyteller) Pedescribe - 1 vote (Nanook) Nanook - 1 vote (Pedescribe) storyteller - 1 vote (bufftabby)
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 3, 2008 1:01:20 GMT -5
36 hours remain:highlighted:
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 3, 2008 1:03:09 GMT -5
It's a pity nobody uses the post highlight feature but me. I put it in for times when someone wants to make a claim or something and does it get used? NOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 3, 2008 1:15:26 GMT -5
Glad you could join us, Squidhole-eo
clusterfucks oft pass my...um...lips
Right. So DBI is really acting like a chump right now. The sort of chump that is at least on-par with my observations of juvenile snark-parroting that I leveled at Mr. Ed earlier, along with my vote. For Day 1, I don't have better candidates than these two, in my mind. I am being very forgiving toDay, in an attempt to not hold grudges/ideas too early and keep my mind open. Lots of things said would've set me off if this were later in the game.
DBI, I think, has surpassed Mr. Ed for my vote. They both ping my Day 1 gut, but DBI is...well...standing out like a nipple in February. AND has been lurking to all hell while Mr. Ed has at least been out here slogging.
Unvote Mr. Ed Vote DBI
I mean...seriously. Your contribution has been about as useful and sensical (is that a word?) as if I had voted for myself and then changed my vote to Top Dog.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 3, 2008 1:15:03 GMT -5
whoops
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 3, 2008 1:17:00 GMT -5
um...
My "whoops" was posted after my post...
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