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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 0:59:49 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Mar 15, 2009 0:59:49 GMT -5
As the crowd enters the gathering area for a new day of argument, indecision, and this time hopefully death. The first thing they notice is that the crowd is one short.
Hal's crumpled bloody form lies prone in front of his shattered candidate stone.
It is now Day.
With 19 alive 13 votes for one person will result in a 12 hour countdown.
Otherwise Day will end at 5PM EST Friday the 20th.
The Candidate Stones:
1 Boozahol Squid (dio) 2 paulwhoisaghost 3 FlyingCowOfDoom 4 MHaye 5 Sinjin 6 NAF 7 CTTDarkSideWHCookies 8 Parzival 9 dorianphoenix 10 storyteller 11 MiteyMouse 12 TotalLost 13 Mr. Special Ed. 14 Roxis 15 reaperwithnoname 16 Bill Mc 17 Bufftabby 18 Seattleguy 19 Hal Briston *destroyed* 20 Pollux Oil
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 1:47:22 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 15, 2009 1:47:22 GMT -5
I just wanted to point out that the curse appears to have been lifted... unless of course one of us just become possessed and starts flinging insults and confusing logicless arguments at everyone.
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 2:23:03 GMT -5
Post by Captain Pinkies on Mar 15, 2009 2:23:03 GMT -5
<= Passes a round of Moose Drool... To Hal.... May you be tor.. I mean rest in peace... or is that pieces..... CHEERS!!
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 3:00:24 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Mar 15, 2009 3:00:24 GMT -5
Only one dead? I was really hoping for a wee bit more blood.
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 3:10:24 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 15, 2009 3:10:24 GMT -5
I just wanted to point out that the curse appears to have been lifted... unless of course one of us just become possessed and starts flinging insults and confusing logicless arguments at everyone. Looks like you're right! Go me and Bufftabby <3
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 3:11:16 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 15, 2009 3:11:16 GMT -5
Only one dead? I was really hoping for a wee bit more blood. I can't do magic - but here you go: Hopes it makes you feel better!
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 3:53:49 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2009 3:53:49 GMT -5
Well, the only "safe" topic of conversation seems to be that we now know that Hal was not one of the Uninvited, else there would have been a card-flip reveal. Right?
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 3:54:12 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2009 3:54:12 GMT -5
Well, the only "safe" topic of conversation seems to be that we now know that Hal was not one of the Uninvited, else there would have been a card-flip reveal. Right?
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 3:54:31 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2009 3:54:31 GMT -5
echo...
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 7:20:13 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Mar 15, 2009 7:20:13 GMT -5
Right.
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 7:28:19 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 15, 2009 7:28:19 GMT -5
ATTENTION MEMBERS OF OTHER CLANS:
There is one point on which we should all be able to agree. We need to lynch our 3rd party players.
According to the rules, it is unclear if they can be Night Killed. So, I suggest that if we have any information that might lead any of our clans to believe that a certain player is 3rd party, that we share it here.
Now, I know, because the other 2 clans are not as honorable as my clan, that you'll probably use this opportunity to lie and manipulate the others into lynching people you can't Night Kill. I just hope you'll be able to sleep at Night if you do. (And, I hope I'll be able to kill you whilst you sleep you cowardly, conniving manipulator)
I apologize for having a gameplay related post. I know it's unheard of in this game.
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 8:05:23 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 15, 2009 8:05:23 GMT -5
ATTENTION MEMBERS OF OTHER CLANS: There is one point on which we should all be able to agree. We need to lynch our 3rd party players. According to the rules, it is unclear if they can be Night Killed. So, I suggest that if we have any information that might lead any of our clans to believe that a certain player is 3rd party, that we share it here. Now, I know, because the other 2 clans are not as honorable as my clan, that you'll probably use this opportunity to lie and manipulate the others into lynching people you can't Night Kill. I just hope you'll be able to sleep at Night if you do. (And, I hope I'll be able to kill you whilst you sleep you cowardly, conniving manipulator) I apologize for having a gameplay related post. I know it's unheard of in this game. Right, that would suggest to me that we all leave Sinjin alone for now - based on the "no lynch" yesterday. So I'll Vote Mr. Ed
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 8:33:11 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Mar 15, 2009 8:33:11 GMT -5
Right, is it possible that Ed is a 3rd party and wants to suggest this course of action so we leave him alone and assume he's part of another clan?
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 8:52:25 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 15, 2009 8:52:25 GMT -5
The rules are very clear as to who has what ability out of the clans... the only people it doesn't specify abilities for are the 2 3rd parties. Since Sinjin displayed a seeming ability to stop himself from being lynched, that would make him a third party right? Either that or there is a third party who can prevent people from being lynched and he thought it would be a good move to protect Sinjin, making him look like he is the one with the ability.
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 9:05:08 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 15, 2009 9:05:08 GMT -5
So Sinjin... what says you?
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Mar 15, 2009 9:06:57 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Mar 15, 2009 9:06:57 GMT -5
Right, is it possible that Ed is a 3rd party and wants to suggest this course of action so we leave him alone and assume he's part of another clan? That's a fair point. Ed has essentially made an anti-claim - that he's not one of the 3rd parties, and that we should lynch the 3rd parties. Boozahol was also keen to lynch the 3rd party. I'll hazard a wild guess that the 3rd parties will have some power/quirk that will be a sting in the tail for the the clansfolk - which kinda aligns with NAF's comment on Day 1 NAF that Sinjin/3rd party could be a Jester. Since Sinjin's lynch was unsuccessful, either clansfolk stopped it, the 3rd parties have the power to stop a lynch or is Sinjin a 3rd party Scotsman. I'd be interested in hearing folks thoughts on the pro's/con's of killing the 3rd parties.
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 9:07:44 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 15, 2009 9:07:44 GMT -5
The rules are very clear as to who has what ability out of the clans... the only people it doesn't specify abilities for are the 2 3rd parties. Since Sinjin displayed a seeming ability to stop himself from being lynched, that would make him a third party right? Either that or there is a third party who can prevent people from being lynched and he thought it would be a good move to protect Sinjin, making him look like he is the one with the ability. 1. I think Sinjin is a she 2. That was NOT at all the conclusion I made from a "no lynch" yesterday 3. Unvote Mr. Special Ed[/color] 4. Vote Paul-wia-ghost
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 9:21:47 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 15, 2009 9:21:47 GMT -5
What was the conclusion you made? I don't see how clansfolk could stop the lynch, it is not listed as a clan ability and Blockey made the setup open and very clear. So how else would he have survived the lynch?
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 9:33:53 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 15, 2009 9:33:53 GMT -5
What was the conclusion you made? I don't see how clansfolk could stop the lynch, it is not listed as a clan ability and Blockey made the setup open and very clear. So how else would he have survived the lynch? Based on this: Below the open set up posted yet again. READ ME seriously, it's open, read the open roles. Okay this is a mostly open setup, mostly no card flip game. Full explanation to follow. The time has come to choose a new ruler for the Kingdom of Three. The civilized battle will begin anew. Something is different this time though. There are too many people here. Someone is cheating. (well everyone is, shhhhh) The base of this game is the standard three clan game. There are the Swordsmen, the Stone Clan, and the Scholars. Swordsmen can night kill Scholars, Stone can night kill Swordsmen, and Scholars can night kill Stone. Each clan brings four members to the civilized battle. The Prime Candidate: The prime candidate has the capacity to night kill. In addition the Prime Candidate has an ability which can be used only once. The Stone clan PC may stop all night kills. The Scholar PC may stop one lynch. The Swordsmen have a night action which makes a player immune to lynch the following day, and death the night after. The Secondary Candidates: The secondary candidates can night kill. Each team has two. The Spy: The spy can investigate a player and find out their alignment. The spy can not night kill. The four people from each group know who each other are, and can talk on their own hidden message boards. That is the base of the three clan mini. However people are cheating this time. Each clan has contracted two helpers, but the team doesn't know who they are and the helpers don't know who the team is. There's the Guardian: The Guardian is a standard Doctor, but can not self protect. There is one aligned with each clan, but all they know is their own alignment. They are informed after protecting someone, whether that person was of the opposing two alignments. There's also the Novice: Every night the Novice may target a player. The targeted player will receive a pm with the Novice's alignment. If the Novice targets his own clan he will join their message board and gain the role of whichever member dies first. If a member has already died, the Novice will gain that role. There are two extra people. They were not invited. Their roles will not be revealed except on cardflip. With the exception of those two roles, there will be no card flips. Most mafia games are Card Flip games. When someone dies a degree of information about their role is revealed. Only the two hidden roles will have information about their roles revealed on death. Every other player will reveal no information upon their death. I think that we might have seen the result of: "The Scholar PC may stop one lynch". Don't you?
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 9:38:37 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 15, 2009 9:38:37 GMT -5
I'd be interested in hearing folks thoughts on the pro's/con's of killing the 3rd parties. Snipped In a game like this I would call them 4th parties. We have to deal with them at some point - so if I get a hunch someone might be 4th party I can't see any reason not to vote for them.
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 9:40:26 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 15, 2009 9:40:26 GMT -5
Too much WiFoM right now!!! I'll have to go and think this one out Unvote Paul-wia-ghost
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 10:48:10 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Mar 15, 2009 10:48:10 GMT -5
I'm in total agreement with total lost here. PaulGhost has given us some very interesting wifom indeed.
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 10:59:12 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Mar 15, 2009 10:59:12 GMT -5
Uhhh... it says right in the rules that the scholar PC can stop one lynch. I can't believe nobody in paul's clan noticed this, so that leads me to believe that he doesn't have a clan.
Vote paulwhoisaghost
--FCOD
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 12:33:10 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2009 12:33:10 GMT -5
ATTENTION MEMBERS OF OTHER CLANS: There is one point on which we should all be able to agree. We need to lynch our 3rd party players. According to the rules, it is unclear if they can be Night Killed. So, I suggest that if we have any information that might lead any of our clans to believe that a certain player is 3rd party, that we share it here. Now, I know, because the other 2 clans are not as honorable as my clan, that you'll probably use this opportunity to lie and manipulate the others into lynching people you can't Night Kill. I just hope you'll be able to sleep at Night if you do. (And, I hope I'll be able to kill you whilst you sleep you cowardly, conniving manipulator) I apologize for having a gameplay related post. I know it's unheard of in this game. You might be throwing the baby out with the bath water. How, exactly, is anyone without perfect knowledge going to be able to determine if a manipulation to get someone lynched is being done because the manipulators know that the person they're trying to lynch is a member of a clan that they can't kill, or a 3rd party that they found?
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 12:42:45 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 15, 2009 12:42:45 GMT -5
ATTENTION MEMBERS OF OTHER CLANS: There is one point on which we should all be able to agree. We need to lynch our 3rd party players. According to the rules, it is unclear if they can be Night Killed. So, I suggest that if we have any information that might lead any of our clans to believe that a certain player is 3rd party, that we share it here. Now, I know, because the other 2 clans are not as honorable as my clan, that you'll probably use this opportunity to lie and manipulate the others into lynching people you can't Night Kill. I just hope you'll be able to sleep at Night if you do. (And, I hope I'll be able to kill you whilst you sleep you cowardly, conniving manipulator) I apologize for having a gameplay related post. I know it's unheard of in this game. You might be throwing the baby out with the bath water. How, exactly, is anyone without perfect knowledge going to be able to determine if a manipulation to get someone lynched is being done because the manipulators know that the person they're trying to lynch is a member of a clan that they can't kill, or a 3rd party that they found? True, but at some point, some of us are going to know the alignment of some others. And, after card flip, or lack thereof, we might be able to surmise intention. But, of course, you're right. This is quite the muddled thing.
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 15:22:58 GMT -5
Post by Captain Pinkies on Mar 15, 2009 15:22:58 GMT -5
Right, is it possible that Ed is a 3rd party and wants to suggest this course of action so we leave him alone and assume he's part of another clan? That's a fair point. Ed has essentially made an anti-claim - that he's not one of the 3rd parties, and that we should lynch the 3rd parties. Boozahol was also keen to lynch the 3rd party. I'll hazard a wild guess that the 3rd parties will have some power/quirk that will be a sting in the tail for the the clansfolk - which kinda aligns with NAF's comment on Day 1 NAF that Sinjin/3rd party could be a Jester. Since Sinjin's lynch was unsuccessful, either clansfolk stopped it, the 3rd parties have the power to stop a lynch or is Sinjin a 3rd party Scotsman. I'd be interested in hearing folks thoughts on the pro's/con's of killing the 3rd parties. I say lets hunt them down and kill them... Maybe they do have a sting, but the only way to find out to find them and take them out....
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 16:53:22 GMT -5
Post by Hal Briston on Mar 15, 2009 16:53:22 GMT -5
Hmph! Well, I guess I shouldn't complain...I'm pretty sure this was my first Night 1 kill.
Go <player(s) I'm rooting for, if applicable>!
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 16:58:55 GMT -5
Post by Captain Pinkies on Mar 15, 2009 16:58:55 GMT -5
Uhhh... it says right in the rules that the scholar PC can stop one lynch. I can't believe nobody in paul's clan noticed this, so that leads me to believe that he doesn't have a clan. Vote paulwhoisaghost--FCOD Maybe or perhaps he doesn't know how to read... In any case sounds like he should be lynched.... Vote paulwhoisaghost
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Mar 15, 2009 22:49:10 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2009 22:49:10 GMT -5
"Paul has certainly said some interesting things toDay. By my count he has missed not one but two lynch-stopping clauses in the open rules that could account for what we've seen so far. Aside from the Scholar's lynch-stopping power, the Swordsman's power is a Night action that prevents the lynch of a pre-determined player the following Day and then prevents any Night kills on that same player the following Night. Sinjin survived a lynch and then survived the following Night, but there are multiple possible uses of public powers that could have resulted in those turns of events, and then there's whatever may or may not be lurking in the non-public possible powers of the Uninvited."
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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 22:55:41 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 15, 2009 22:55:41 GMT -5
"Paul has certainly said some interesting things toDay. By my count he has missed not one but two lynch-stopping clauses in the open rules that could account for what we've seen so far. Aside from the Scholar's lynch-stopping power, the Swordsman's power is a Night action that prevents the lynch of a pre-determined player the following Day and then prevents any Night kills on that same player the following Night. Sinjin survived a lynch and then survived the following Night, but there are multiple possible uses of public powers that could have resulted in those turns of events, and then there's whatever may or may not be lurking in the non-public possible powers of the Uninvited." This is dull. Is Paul our only bandwagon choice? I want to start a bandwagon... vote cookies[/color] for paying too much attention. I also think it's unlikely that in Night 0 that the Swords took the opportunity to use their once only power to protect someone....unless they planned on leading the bandwagon on her themselves.... Sinjin's survival last Night might mean that no one targeted her in Night 1..
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