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Day Two
Mar 15, 2009 22:56:30 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 15, 2009 22:56:30 GMT -5
also, cookies put her entire post in "quotes" That should be reason enough to vote for her in this game.
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Mar 15, 2009 23:07:40 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2009 23:07:40 GMT -5
[smarmy politician] Thank you for your vote. [/smarmy politician] And thank you for so aptly elaborating on a few of the possibilities that I was referring to.
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Mar 15, 2009 23:13:24 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2009 23:13:24 GMT -5
Am I sloppy and vetting some of my posts with my clan? Or did I put the quotes there to make people think that I have a clan to talk to? The Shadow knows...
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 0:29:50 GMT -5
Post by Parzival on Mar 16, 2009 0:29:50 GMT -5
I think we all have a pretty good idea what Sinjin is, barring some unusual circumstances. Paul would seem to be one of the 8 people not aligned - which means he could well be on someone's team but they don't know it. Or he's one of the outside parties. From any of our points of view, there's a 1/4 chance he's with us, and 3/4 chance we want him dead (with a 1/4 chance we all want him dead).
It's a decent enough chance that I'll vote for him.
vote paulwhoisaghost
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 0:50:34 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 16, 2009 0:50:34 GMT -5
Funny thing is, I am in a clan. We just didn't make it our topic of discussion last Night as we were talking other points of strategy. But since claiming my clan would be even more stupid than my previous post, I'll have to find an alternative defense.
This mistake is probably gonna be my downfall. I should have payed closer attention to the rules. I don't usually based my arguments against rules though, I'm used to analizing peoples' posts and votes and finding scum. I'm actually surprised that my clanmates haven't been giving me more of a hard time about this. Oh well... the worst part about this is that I basically beat myself with stupidity rather than being beat by one of you with logic.
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 1:05:17 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Mar 16, 2009 1:05:17 GMT -5
Silly boy, that's what you're supposed to do with pee, not posts.
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 3:12:54 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 16, 2009 3:12:54 GMT -5
"Paul has certainly said some interesting things toDay. By my count he has missed not one but two lynch-stopping clauses in the open rules that could account for what we've seen so far. Aside from the Scholar's lynch-stopping power, the Swordsman's power is a Night action that prevents the lynch of a pre-determined player the following Day and then prevents any Night kills on that same player the following Night. Sinjin survived a lynch and then survived the following Night, but there are multiple possible uses of public powers that could have resulted in those turns of events, and then there's whatever may or may not be lurking in the non-public possible powers of the Uninvited." I can't believe this... as I read the first post in psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=rps&action=display&thread=783&page=1#42089 in Night 0 - the only Night-actions that Night was to investigate. It says: "Night Zero is of an indefinite length. It will end relatively soon after I'm sure that I need no subs, all investigative roles have sent in their night actions, and everyone with access to a secret board has registered and been approved." So for now I'll Vote Cookie
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 3:29:19 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Mar 16, 2009 3:29:19 GMT -5
Am I sloppy and vetting some of my posts with my clan? Or did I put the quotes there to make people think that I have a clan to talk to? The Shadow knows... Weird. I'm playing some old episodes of The Shadow right now in my office. Cranston just got held up by some bad guys, whom I have no doubt he'll track down and beat the crap out of. Oddly enough, though, they had German accents, but were supposed to be carrying STEN guns, a British submachine gun. Yeah. I'm bored at work. Caould anyone guess?
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 7:32:43 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 16, 2009 7:32:43 GMT -5
Vote Cookie For messing up (yeah I know... I'm one to talk) and in a feeble attempt to same my own ass.
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 8:59:36 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 16, 2009 8:59:36 GMT -5
By "messing up" are you referring to my use of punctuation or my analysis, Paul?
Public statements from Blockey regarding Night 0:
Ok, so it is clear that there would be no killing on Night 0.
It is also clear, to me, that Blockey really wanted to make sure that none of the investigative roles (who were equally and publicly distributed amongst the Clans, and potentially distributed amongst the Uninvited) missed out on getting an investigation in right out of the gate. This does bring up an interpretation that perhaps is not (at least not publicly) shared by everyone: that the Novices and Guardians are (by Blockey's definition) "investigative roles", since they can potentially learn things about their targets' alignments. But when you fold in the first statement of Blockey's that I include above (from the open rules) it seems reasonable to me that he would indeed define them as such.
I don't think that Blockey's intent with these public statements was to mint a new rule that there HAVE to be investigation targets turned in by ALL investigative roles each and every Night, but that is a pretty reasonable assumption to make as far as what is likely to occur in this game on Night 0. It is not a reasonable assumption to make on subsequent Nights, because of the potential that one or more Novices could find a member of their faction, and such a Novice would be incurring risk if they were to continue targeting people and potentially exposing his/her alignment to his/her subsequent target. I'm not implying that all Novices in such a state would categorically stop targeting people, but it becomes a reasonable option for them to defer using their powers.
Also imho, any other statement or emphasis that Blockey could have made pertaining to potential Night 0 actions would have been unfair, as would have been a freshly minted rule (aka not in the public rules) that the Swordsmen Clan's power would specifically be neutered on Night 0.
I see no reason not to ask for clarification on these matters publicly, just to make sure we're all on the same page.
Mr. Blockey:
Do you consider Novices and Guardians to be "investigative roles" by nature? Will you definitively confirm or deny the possibility that the Swordsmen could have set their Clan's PC power in motion on Night 0? If you will, which is it?
And while I'm here, Vote paul[/color].
For pretty much everything you've said today, including this:
The Clans are able to chat away on their respective boards whether it is Night, Day, Dawn, or Dusk, and I'll take my chances that you're not an ally without access to a set of boards.
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 9:15:51 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 16, 2009 9:15:51 GMT -5
By "messing up" are you referring to my use of punctuation or my analysis, Paul? Public statements from Blockey regarding Night 0: Ok, so it is clear that there would be no killing on Night 0. It is also clear, to me, that Blockey really wanted to make sure that none of the investigative roles (who were equally and publicly distributed amongst the Clans, and potentially distributed amongst the Uninvited) missed out on getting an investigation in right out of the gate. This does bring up an interpretation that perhaps is not (at least not publicly) shared by everyone: that the Novices and Guardians are (by Blockey's definition) "investigative roles", since they can potentially learn things about their targets' alignments. But when you fold in the first statement of Blockey's that I include above (from the open rules) it seems reasonable to me that he would indeed define them as such. I don't think that Blockey's intent with these public statements was to mint a new rule that there HAVE to be investigation targets turned in by ALL investigative roles each and every Night, but that is a pretty reasonable assumption to make as far as what is likely to occur in this game on Night 0. It is not a reasonable assumption to make on subsequent Nights, because of the potential that one or more Novices could find a member of their faction, and such a Novice would be incurring risk if they were to continue targeting people and potentially exposing his/her alignment to his/her subsequent target. I'm not implying that all Novices in such a state would categorically stop targeting people, but it becomes a reasonable option for them to defer using their powers. Also imho, any other statement or emphasis that Blockey could have made pertaining to potential Night 0 actions would have been unfair, as would have been a freshly minted rule (aka not in the public rules) that the Swordsmen Clan's power would specifically be neutered on Night 0. I see no reason not to ask for clarification on these matters publicly, just to make sure we're all on the same page. Mr. Blockey:
Do you consider Novices and Guardians to be "investigative roles" by nature? Will you definitively confirm or deny the possibility that the Swordsmen could have set their Clan's PC power in motion on Night 0? If you will, which is it?
And while I'm here, Vote paul[/color]. For pretty much everything you've said today, including this: The Clans are able to chat away on their respective boards whether it is Night, Day, Dawn, or Dusk, and I'll take my chances that you're not an ally without access to a set of boards. [/quote] I'm going to Unvote Cookie The post above those make sense - and I'm not sure if I read out MODs post right/wrong. I kind of feel I'm having a "mine-name-wasn't-capitalised-vote-Cookie"-moment
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 9:21:59 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Mar 16, 2009 9:21:59 GMT -5
So Total Lost...I know you were talking about growing your hair to get the Princess Leia look. I think you should cut it...you would look terribly cute with a cute, choopy layered cut.
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 9:24:17 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Mar 16, 2009 9:24:17 GMT -5
Sorry about fluffing. We normally fluff in this type of game though. Obviously, I'm used to the mini version of it. Really though, a little fluff doesn't hurt. Does it?
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 9:29:35 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 16, 2009 9:29:35 GMT -5
So Total Lost...I know you were talking about growing your hair to get the Princess Leia look. I think you should cut it...you would look terribly cute with a cute, choopy layered cut. You could be right - the long hair seem to take me forever to grow and I'm not very patient. I'll think about it - hey - this is a place where my snipped-smiley will work as well Fluff ia allowed - I think the last rule was max. 25% fluff in games. But this is a fluff-kind of game - so I'll say max. 34% for everyone (unless Bufftabby - I'll allow her 68%).
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 9:42:08 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 16, 2009 9:42:08 GMT -5
Am I sloppy and vetting some of my posts with my clan? Or did I put the quotes there to make people think that I have a clan to talk to? The Shadow knows... Weird. I'm playing some old episodes of The Shadow right now in my office. Cranston just got held up by some bad guys, whom I have no doubt he'll track down and beat the crap out of. Oddly enough, though, they had German accents, but were supposed to be carrying STEN guns, a British submachine gun. Yeah. I'm bored at work. Caould anyone guess? Double weird! The Flash Fiction challenge on Absolute Write last night had the prompt "coincidence". I hate trying to earn my way into a new creative community. I so want instant gratification of feedback when I actually do sit down an write something. But no one knows me or likes me there yet. I am but a lonely n00b hoping that someone might at least come to point and laugh at my dangling participles, or laugh at my wit if I'm lucky.
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 12:19:29 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Mar 16, 2009 12:19:29 GMT -5
You know what, I am not even going to bother reading the last two pages. Too much fluff to process.
Can I get a vote count? Maybe cut through the garbage that way.
Oh, and hey Story, turns out you and I are on the same team. Neat-o right?
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 12:20:18 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Mar 16, 2009 12:20:18 GMT -5
Oh let's try that again
Can I get a vote count?
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 13:22:10 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Mar 16, 2009 13:22:10 GMT -5
Oh, and hey Story, turns out you and I are on the same team. Neat-o right? Huh. Go figure. Should I believe you? Huh.
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 14:05:02 GMT -5
Post by reaperwithnoname on Mar 16, 2009 14:05:02 GMT -5
Ugh, I hate having to work on the weekends... Uhhh... it says right in the rules that the scholar PC can stop one lynch. I can't believe nobody in paul's clan noticed this, so that leads me to believe that he doesn't have a clan. Vote paulwhoisaghost--FCOD Ok, that seems like a bit of a jump to me. People forget the rules all the time. Heck, I forgot the special roles of the clans too. Plus, it's the second vote (not quite the infamous third, but close enough for me). Vote FCODFor now, at least.
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 14:53:28 GMT -5
Post by DorianPhoenix on Mar 16, 2009 14:53:28 GMT -5
Ugh, I hate having to work on the weekends... Uhhh... it says right in the rules that the scholar PC can stop one lynch. I can't believe nobody in paul's clan noticed this, so that leads me to believe that he doesn't have a clan. Vote paulwhoisaghost--FCOD Ok, that seems like a bit of a jump to me. People forget the rules all the time. Heck, I forgot the special roles of the clans too. Plus, it's the second vote (not quite the infamous third, but close enough for me). Vote FCODFor now, at least. Forgetting the roles of Clans is an easy thing to do for someone who's not part of a Clan. So it leads me to believe you're either unaffiliated (one of 2 others) or one of the investigators. VOTE REAPER
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 15:38:54 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Mar 16, 2009 15:38:54 GMT -5
VOTE DORIAN[/b]
Let's just all vote for the last poster!
--FCOD
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 15:58:10 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Mar 16, 2009 15:58:10 GMT -5
[/b] Let's just all vote for the last poster! --FCOD[/quote] Brilliant!! Vote FCODDid I just do this to myself???:
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 15:58:48 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 16, 2009 15:58:48 GMT -5
The finger streaks are a very nice touch...
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 16:00:46 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Mar 16, 2009 16:00:46 GMT -5
I really find it hard to believe that nobody in paul's supposed clan discussed the failed lynch on sinjin. It seems to me that there are three possibilities: the Scholar PC, the Swordsman PC, or the possibility of an unknown's power. And you're telling me that no one thought to mention this?
Reaper's forgetting the roles of the clans also bugs me. Like dorian said, it's pretty much a good idea to know the roles if you're a member of a clan, especially who's PC does what. I'm assuming that only someone who isn't a part of a clan would have no need to memorize the roles.
Still, I need to place a vote, and I think paul is lying.
Vote paulwhoisaghost
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 16:25:52 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 16, 2009 16:25:52 GMT -5
If Paul made a mistake, he's obviously not a scholar, since I'm sure they would know their own secret power.
Unless he is, and he knows they didn't use their power.
So, yeah, basically, he either is or isn't a scholar.
My deductive skills are impeccable.
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 16:31:44 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Mar 16, 2009 16:31:44 GMT -5
So they are Ed.
vote Mr. Special Ed
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 17:14:33 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 16, 2009 17:14:33 GMT -5
So they are Ed. vote Mr. Special Edcrap I forgot to vote for roxis, she was right above me (a nice spot for her from my point of view) unvote cookiesvote roxisand now with a new post unvote roxisvote NAFnot an omgus, but a omgupam
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 18:38:24 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Mar 16, 2009 18:38:24 GMT -5
Current Vote Count:
Paulwhoisaghost (4): seattleguy, Parzival, cookies, roxis Cookies (1): paulwhoisaghost FCOD (1): reaperwithnoname reaperwithnoname (1): dorianphoenix dorianphoenix (1): FCOD FCOD (1): Totallost Mr. Special Ed (1): NAF NAF (1): Mr. Special Ed
As for those specific aspects of the setup I was asked about. No bloody way I'm telling.
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 19:34:03 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 16, 2009 19:34:03 GMT -5
Let's just all vote for the last poster! --FCOD "Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention."Vote FCOD
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Day Two
Mar 16, 2009 19:51:47 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Mar 16, 2009 19:51:47 GMT -5
Hey blockey, since I didn't unvote technically my vote is still on paul.
Which is where I actually want it anyway, for the reasons given in the post where I initially voted for him.
Just to make it legit: Unvote[/b]. Vote paul
--FCOD
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