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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 5, 2009 15:03:36 GMT -5
Where is roxis? She still hasn't changed her name back from zeriel. And rugger is still listed as roxis. Who wants to start a bandwagon on an absent person? *lol* Any game you play, I'll give a go... Vote Roxis
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Post by BillMc on Apr 5, 2009 15:25:55 GMT -5
I've no idea what that means. Perhaps it's because I've received the protection of my guardian, and my guardian treated you so rudely. I do hope that's the case, because I know the identity of my guardian, and, from the rules, they should know if they are guarding their own clan. I know you have previously stated that your logical was impeccable , and the reason FCOD started the original bandwagon on Paul was that he seemed unfamiliar with the the roles/powers of the clans, so was probably an outsider. So it does seem rather strange that you postulate that your supposed clans guardian - who is effectively a doc - would/could/did block Sinjin's spy attempting an investigation on you. It would seem that you have also forgotten the role of the guardians in this game. Indeed, you do not seem surprised at all that a spy's investigation was blocked -- when none of the clan's have blocking powers. Which gives us three options: - Sinjin is lying
- An outsider chose to block the spy for some reason.
- An outsider stopped themselves being investigated.
I think it is the latter, and will leave my vote where it is.
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 5, 2009 16:11:22 GMT -5
*bows to gathered clan-folk* Fellow clanspeople, I bring you tidings that my clan wishes to share freely with you all. It has come to our attention that Mr Special Ed might be, how do I say this, well let's just say: Special. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) Our spy was rudely, yes I say again rudely** treated while trying to sneak an ever so quick peak at Mr Special Ed's clan tattoo. It's not like it's our fault that the clan tattoos are placed in such a, well, um, sensual region of the body. In fact most clanspeople, especially those of the male variety, are rather pleased to show off their clan tats to the curious. This leads us to believe that Mr Special Ed is without a clan tattoo. Do what you will with this information. **Physically attacked and rendered unable to complete the sneak peak in case you're interested in the dreadful details. No permanent damage seems to have accrued, so bygones. *bows to gathered clan-folk* vote Special EdOr, we can just play it straight. Vote, Ed we think he's other! The color added was mine. Why would BillMC think it was Sinjins investigation? This doesn't make sense - unless maybe BillMC is a 3rd party trying to blend in. Or maybe he has some sort of PIS??? Anyway I'm up for a UnvoteVote BillMC
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 5, 2009 16:12:56 GMT -5
Darn - the color was not added Anyway - Sinjin said "our" investigater and BillMC jumped to "Sinjin is the investigater".
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 16:47:51 GMT -5
I've no idea what that means. Perhaps it's because I've received the protection of my guardian, and my guardian treated you so rudely. I do hope that's the case, because I know the identity of my guardian, and, from the rules, they should know if they are guarding their own clan. That, or sinjin is certain of my alignment and hasn't been able to NK me because of said protection. or, sinjinis herself a 3rd party. She DID survive a Day 1 lynching. One of our 3rd party players could b a Scotsman of sorts. It's either that or one faction burned their power the first Day (maybe she's their PC and knew it wouldn't last) Grasping at straws Ed? The guardians don't rough up spys. They're docs, they protect you from being NK'd by your rival clan. How do you know? I know who my guardian and novice are, I just don't know if they know who I am. I think my guardian does. I've dropped enough breadcrumbs....
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 16:54:58 GMT -5
*bows to gathered clan-folk* Fellow clanspeople, I bring you tidings that my clan wishes to share freely with you all. It has come to our attention that Mr Special Ed might be, how do I say this, well let's just say: Special. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) Our spy was rudely, yes I say again rudely** treated while trying to sneak an ever so quick peak at Mr Special Ed's clan tattoo. It's not like it's our fault that the clan tattoos are placed in such a, well, um, sensual region of the body. In fact most clanspeople, especially those of the male variety, are rather pleased to show off their clan tats to the curious. This leads us to believe that Mr Special Ed is without a clan tattoo. Do what you will with this information. **Physically attacked and rendered unable to complete the sneak peak in case you're interested in the dreadful details. No permanent damage seems to have accrued, so bygones. *bows to gathered clan-folk* vote Special EdOr, we can just play it straight. Vote, Ed we think he's other! The color added was mine. Why would BillMC think it was Sinjins investigation? This doesn't make sense - unless maybe BillMC is a 3rd party trying to blend in. Or maybe he has some sort of PIS??? Anyway I'm up for a UnvoteVote BillMCBill didn't say that, he said "sinjin's spy" meaning, "the spy belonging to sinjin" Let's go back to roxis. I think she's sinjin's spy anyway her or Bill anyway. Sinjin is probably the PC. And they know my clan. I'm certain their investigation went through just fine. They're just trying to come up with something to get me lynched. Vote: roxis
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Post by sinjin on Apr 5, 2009 17:15:53 GMT -5
Grasping at straws Ed? The guardians don't rough up spys. They're docs, they protect you from being NK'd by your rival clan. How do you know? I know who my guardian and novice are, I just don't know if they know who I am. I think my guardian does. I've dropped enough breadcrumbs.... From the rules Ed: Standard Doctors are not role blockers. My spy was blocked when the Ed investigation went down. Hey clans-people out there, listen up. We don't know the win con of the "others". We haven't offed one of them yet. I think it's time, don't you?
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Post by MiteyMouse on Apr 5, 2009 17:17:23 GMT -5
Vote: Vote Ed ....because I have been trying for 3 days to kill him and will not rest until he's dead! In the nicest, most loving way possible of course!
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 18:11:46 GMT -5
This is getting interesting. Alignments seem to be falling into place.
Why have you been trying to kill me, Mitey? because you know you can't NK me?
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 18:13:11 GMT -5
How do you know? I know who my guardian and novice are, I just don't know if they know who I am. I think my guardian does. I've dropped enough breadcrumbs.... From the rules Ed: Standard Doctors are not role blockers. My spy was blocked when the Ed investigation went down. Hey clans-people out there, listen up. We don't know the win con of the "others". We haven't offed one of them yet. I think it's time, don't you? I have no idea why your investigation didn't work. or even if it didn't. Our clan has had you begged as a Scholar for surviving the lynch or as a Scotsman 3rd party. We've been unable to decide which. In either case, it makes sense for you to lie.
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Post by roxis on Apr 5, 2009 18:16:47 GMT -5
Ughhh I completely forgot about this game. I went a week without the computer and have sort of been M.I.A. ever since.
Mmmk, gonna go catch up.
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 18:35:50 GMT -5
@swords
I'm not sure how well this gambit will work, but we've done some legwork for you.
First off, sorry about those Night Kills. I'm not sure if they were regular members, but we investigated NAF and Seeker. They were on your team. They're dead.
And, yes, we stopped the Night Kills on Night 2. We had investigated roxis and we knew we couldn't NK her. We figured it was best to use that power of blocking while we had it, and we had no clear target for a NK.
Now, as to NKs for you. We're pretty sure sinjin is a regular Scholar just due to surviving that Day 1 lynch. We also know that roxis is a Scholar. Not sure if she's regular or not. (we still think sinjin might be a 3rd party survivor, we just can't be sure)
And, btw, nice job getting NKs on buff and Hal, I can only hope they were 2 of the 3 Nk'ing powers they had. That leaves, now, just 2 Scholars you won't know. Hopefully you have more information from your investigations and you can take out their remaining members at Night for us. We'd appreciate it.
And, unfortunately, without the card flips on MHaye and paul, we can't really be sure who they were playing for.
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Post by roxis on Apr 5, 2009 18:35:56 GMT -5
Vote Special Ed
Could sinjin be lying? Yeah. Do I care? No. Ed's not part of my clan, I know that much, so either he's a part of another clan...in which case 2/3 of us need him dead, or he's a third party, in which case all of us need him dead. Good enough for me.
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 18:37:30 GMT -5
Vote Special EdCould sinjin be lying? Yeah. Do I care? No. Ed's not part of my clan, I know that much, so either he's a part of another clan...in which case 2/3 of us need him dead, or he's a third party, in which case all of us need him dead. Good enough for me. How ironic, since you can NK me. You'd think you'd want to lynch a sword.
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 18:42:51 GMT -5
Vote Special EdCould sinjin be lying? Yeah. Do I care? No. Ed's not part of my clan, I know that much, so either he's a part of another clan...in which case 2/3 of us need him dead, or he's a third party, in which case all of us need him dead. Good enough for me. and why doesn't the same logic apply to sinjin? oh, yeeah, because she's a Scholar too!
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 19:24:15 GMT -5
Additionally, swords, If you keep me alive, and my guardian protects me, I can continue feeding you information from our side.
Granted, if we investigate your side, we'll likely kill them, but if we investigate a Scholar, we'll gladly let you know.
So far, we've investigated 2 Swords (and killed them), 1 Scholar (roxis) and our 2 hidden players.
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Post by roxis on Apr 5, 2009 19:55:10 GMT -5
and why doesn't the same logic apply to sinjin? oh, yeeah, because she's a Scholar too! The same logic does apply to sinjin, I never said it didn't. Just like the "she could be lying" applies to you as well - for all I know, you could be lying.
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 20:17:54 GMT -5
and why doesn't the same logic apply to sinjin? oh, yeeah, because she's a Scholar too! The same logic does apply to sinjin, I never said it didn't. Just like the "she could be lying" applies to you as well - for all I know, you could be lying. so, you're saying that sinjin is NOT in your clan? Because,if she's not, then how did she survive a Day 1 lynching? The only way would be with your PC's power or with some 3rd party power. And, if sinjin is NOT in your clan, why not vote for her? There certainly more evidence that she's 3rd party, especially to a Scholar, because that is the only other way she could have survived that lynch.
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Post by Parzival on Apr 5, 2009 21:50:51 GMT -5
I think you're blowing smoke, Ed. The suggestion that Sinjin could somehow be a Scotsman and third party (who, per the rules, are probably immune to night kills from the clans) doesn't make sense. The 'guardian blocked the spy' mistake also doesn't fit, and it makes me think you actually believe Sinjin's telling the truth about what she said.
Vote: Mr. Special Ed
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 22:11:07 GMT -5
I think you're blowing smoke, Ed. The suggestion that Sinjin could somehow be a Scotsman and third party (who, per the rules, are probably immune to night kills from the clans) doesn't make sense. The 'guardian blocked the spy' mistake also doesn't fit, and it makes me think you actually believe Sinjin's telling the truth about what she said. Vote: Mr. Special Ed [/color][/quote] no, the guardian blocked the spy thing doesn't make too much sense, I'll agree. But I think it's more of a lie on her part. I think the scholars are very frustrated because they've successfully investigate me and haven't been able to NK me since my guardian has been protecting me. What else explains the failur od the scholars to succeed in even 1 NK? And the swords will know it's true, since every NK has been either done by them or done to them. (Granted, they might not have known NAF and buff were Swords.) Other than that, maybe some 3rd party has some power to cloud investigations or block powers or something. Or maybe they're pissed because their spy is already dead. Heck, for all I know, all 3 of their NK roles might be dead already. Now, here's the caveat. From the information I've revealed, most everyone in a clan thread will know I'm telling the truth. I've detailed who the Swords have NK'd, so they'll know. I've also let them know which of them we've killed. I'm not sure how to convince the Scholars though, but that doesn't matter. They haven't NK'd anyone yet. Also, now my guardian KNOWS I'm on their side, and now our novice hopefully can figure out who to investigate. I doubt the swords will will me live, even though if they did, they'd get the information from our investigations, but it was worth a shot, and at best, I've given them 2 targets for NKs. Sinjin had already given herself up as a scholar by surviving the Day 1 lynch. Roxis' behavior in voting for me over her backs that up, especially coming AFTER I outed her as a scholar. Why else would she finger me as the 3rd party over sinjin? The only explanation for sinjin surviving a lynch is either being 3rd party or a scholar. Bu roxis going after me and not sinjin, she confirmed that. So, what has my coming out done? It's given the Swords info they might find useful for lynches. It's given my novice and guardian information in case I survive a lynch, it's given the swords some small incentive to let me live. and it's only given up myself on the Stone clan.
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Post by Mister Blockey on Apr 5, 2009 22:33:07 GMT -5
Current Vote Count:
FCOD (5): Boozahol Squid, FCOD, Cookies, Captain Pinkies Mr Special Ed (5): BillMC, Sinjin, Mitey Mouse, Roxis, Parzival Captain Pinkies (1): Dorianphoenix Boozahol Squid (1): reaperwithnoname BillMC (1): Totallost Roxis (1): Mr. Special Ed
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Post by sinjin on Apr 5, 2009 22:45:01 GMT -5
Um, Ed, really long and way strange post. Do you really think you're the only one to twig to the fact that I'm a scholar? It was obvious to the most casual observer by Day 2.
Clan-folk, Ed is third party. I firmly believe that none of us will win if third party folk survive.
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Post by special on Apr 5, 2009 23:01:15 GMT -5
Um, Ed, really long and way strange post. Do you really think you're the only one to twig to the fact that I'm a scholar? It was obvious to the most casual observer by Day 2. Clan-folk, Ed is third party. I firmly believe that none of us will win if third party folk survive. I'll still probably be lynched, but the swords will know I'm telling the truth because I know who they killed and which of them we've killed. You actually know I'm telling the truth to, because you know each of your NKs has failed. Otherwise, we'd have had Stones NK'd. So, if nothing else, I've clued the Swords in to at least roxis as someone else they can NK. It'll give ya'll some WiFoM on who to protect.
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 6, 2009 1:54:12 GMT -5
I think you're blowing smoke, Ed. The suggestion that Sinjin could somehow be a Scotsman and third party (who, per the rules, are probably immune to night kills from the clans) doesn't make sense. The 'guardian blocked the spy' mistake also doesn't fit, and it makes me think you actually believe Sinjin's telling the truth about what she said. Vote: Mr. Special Ed [/color][/quote] I can't find the rule that says 3rd party can't be NKed... As for mt vote on BillMC - I guess I read him wrong. Sorry. Unvote BillMC
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Post by BillMc on Apr 6, 2009 2:32:27 GMT -5
Can I cry "liar liar pants on fire"? In this post, Ed you claim sword NK's Buff - and that Buff was Scholar. And, btw, nice job getting NKs on buff and Hal, I can only hope they were 2 of the 3 Nk'ing powers they had. However, in this post, you claim Buff was Sword. they might not have known NAF and buff were Swords. You're not even consistently grasping as straws.
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Post by BillMc on Apr 6, 2009 4:21:21 GMT -5
no, the guardian blocked the spy thing doesn't make too much sense, I'll agree. But I think it's more of a lie on her part. Sinjin said her spy was blocked. It was you Ed that speculated that your guardian blocked the spy -- something a guardian clearly cannot do. Sinjin may be lying, but your story is full of contradictions and errors. Clutching at straws, and still drowning.
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 6, 2009 6:31:41 GMT -5
Unvote: Boozy Vote: FCOD because everyone else is.... --FCOD /bleached I fail to understand why you vote do that. And when I can't follow the logic I asume it because your game isn't the same as mine. You could be a 3rd party and therefore I'll Vote FCOD
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Post by special on Apr 6, 2009 6:47:42 GMT -5
no, the guardian blocked the spy thing doesn't make too much sense, I'll agree. But I think it's more of a lie on her part. Sinjin said her spy was blocked. It was you Ed that speculated that your guardian blocked the spy -- something a guardian clearly cannot do. Sinjin may be lying, but your story is full of contradictions and errors. Clutching at straws, and still drowning. If you were in a clan, you'd know that only my speculation was incorrect. Assuming sinjin was telling the truth, I tried to come up with some explanations. However, sinjin has plenty of reasons to not be honest. So my speculation was incorrect. My facts about who died and what their alignment was are correct.
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Post by special on Apr 6, 2009 6:50:11 GMT -5
Can I cry "liar liar pants on fire"? In this post, Ed you claim sword NK's Buff - and that Buff was Scholar. And, btw, nice job getting NKs on buff and Hal, I can only hope they were 2 of the 3 Nk'ing powers they had. However, in this post, you claim Buff was Sword. they might not have known NAF and buff were Swords. You're not even consistently grasping as straws. Yeah, I didn't check my notes and went from memory. NAF and Seeker were the swords, though I can't be sure if the other swords knew since one or both of them might have been the novice or the guardian. Buff was a Scholar, as was Hal. Since we didn't NK them and I know they weren't Stone. In fact, we tried to kill Buff Night 1. MHaye and paul were the ones lynched, so I won't give any insight into their alignment, even if I have clues.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Apr 6, 2009 7:57:57 GMT -5
All right Ed, I will accept your terms.
I am of the Sword clan. While you may have killed our PC (NAF), we can use the information you offer so we won't vote for you today.
Tomorrow, we'll see...
--FCOD
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