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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 14:49:29 GMT -5
And Lightfoot, I understand your equating "good guys" with town and "bad guys" with scum, but you can't simply ignore colour either. In this game, the characters that are typically bad guys are town, and the good guys are the scum. The rest of us are going by that convention, so it would greatly increase clear communication if you used "town" and "scum" when referring to alignments, and "good guy / bad guy" when referring to whether or not a role is a hero or villain.
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 8, 2012 14:50:34 GMT -5
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 8, 2012 14:52:24 GMT -5
And Lightfoot, I understand your equating "good guys" with town and "bad guys" with scum, but you can't simply ignore colour either. In this game, the characters that are typically bad guys are town, and the good guys are the scum. The rest of us are going by that convention, so it would greatly increase clear communication if you used "town" and "scum" when referring to alignments, and "good guy / bad guy" when referring to whether or not a role is a hero or villain. And you may note I am now qualifying the hades out of my alignment statements= have been for a page or two
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 14:55:48 GMT -5
People with only 1 power (not me)
Is your pm the same as texcat's or does it have something like this:
Powers: 1. Blah blah blah
I mean, you neednt answer. I'm not sure if it's worth it or if it gives stuff away But didn't we catch someone in marvel that way?
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 8, 2012 14:59:06 GMT -5
People with only 1 power (not me) Is your pm the same as texcat's or does it have something like this: Powers: 1. Blah blah blah I mean, you neednt answer. I'm not sure if it's worth it or if it gives stuff away But didn't we catch someone in marvel that way? Brilliant. let's out all the power roles. or atleast all the single power roles? Are you sure you just typed that?
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 8, 2012 15:02:43 GMT -5
Oh, and since I don't see how it's going to change the planet
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 15:03:02 GMT -5
People with only 1 power (not me) Is your pm the same as texcat's or does it have something like this: Powers: 1. Blah blah blah I mean, you neednt answer. I'm not sure if it's worth it or if it gives stuff away But didn't we catch someone in marvel that way? Brilliant. let's out all the power roles. or atleast all the single power roles? Are you sure you just typed that? Yeah, I know. Probably a bad idea. How about we discuss it first. I'm also of the idea that everyone has powers or at least has something like an additional power i have which indicates a potential for future powers. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 15:05:24 GMT -5
Without commenting on this game at all, I do know that whenever I design setups and draft role PMs, I always use "powers" whether the player has one, some, or none. I haven't paid much attention to the PMs I've gotten in other games in that regard, but I feel like listing the plural regardless of the amount of powers is more the norm than not.
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Post by Hal Briston on Mar 8, 2012 15:07:32 GMT -5
Brilliant. let's out all the power roles. or atleast all the single power roles? Are you sure you just typed that? Not "all", just one person coming forward and saying "yeah, I have exactly one power and there is a '1.' before it on my role PM". That would wind up looking bad for TexCat. Conversely, "yeah, I have exactly one power but there is no number before it" would be data point in her favor.
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 15:07:47 GMT -5
Without commenting on this game at all, I do know that whenever I design setups and draft role PMs, I always use "powers" whether the player has one, some, or none. I haven't paid much attention to the PMs I've gotten in other games in that regard, but I feel like listing the plural regardless of the amount of powers is more the norm than not. Yes, but isn't story the one who numbers them even of there's just one?
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 8, 2012 15:13:39 GMT -5
As everyone is doing it, I suppose http/ doesnt count lol
ETFJGALUHAWAGLY.
This was the funniest part of my PM
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 8, 2012 15:14:52 GMT -5
Brilliant. let's out all the power roles. or atleast all the single power roles? Are you sure you just typed that? Not "all", just one person coming forward and saying "yeah, I have exactly one power and there is a '1.' before it on my role PM". That would wind up looking bad for TexCat. Conversely, "yeah, I have exactly one power but there is no number before it" would be data point in her favor. With this many PM's sent out at the same time it's highly likely that the template won't be consistant. I know mine weren't when I modded
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 15:17:42 GMT -5
According to texcat's PM, 'destroying Gotham' is precisely the Town's goal. And you seem to be the only person who really has a problem with this idea. Why do you suppose that is? You have assumed that texcat’s alignment is indeed Town. Mafia as I know it Town is the “good guys” ( not because of their names because of their alignment) . Ridding the game of all Scum is the goal. Destroying Town would not be a goal of Town ( atleast that is how my mind sees it) First, I assume nothing about texcat's alignment. I merely point out that texcat states her alignment is Town and that she is out to 'destroy Gotham'. Second, please stop confusing 'Town', 'Mafia', 'good guys', and 'bad guys'. According to the PM that texcat posted, and according to your own PM, Town is comprised in this game of people who are 'anti-Gotham', and Scum are composed of people who are 'pro-Gotham' (also supported by Ed's claim that Batman is Scum). Please, please just go with that, and nothing else. Don't worry about the underlying motivations of the characters, only the factions with which they are aligned in this game. The argument that "Town are the 'bad guys' in this game, but Town are supposed to be the 'good guys', so that's how I'm going to refer to them" will at best only cause additional confusion and at worst will cause you to be mislynched.
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 15:17:54 GMT -5
Not "all", just one person coming forward and saying "yeah, I have exactly one power and there is a '1.' before it on my role PM". That would wind up looking bad for TexCat. Conversely, "yeah, I have exactly one power but there is no number before it" would be data point in her favor. With this many PM's sent out at the same time it's highly likely that the template won't be consistant. I know mine weren't when I modded Storyteller is unique. His skills are legendary.
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 8, 2012 15:20:04 GMT -5
Not "all", just one person coming forward and saying "yeah, I have exactly one power and there is a '1.' before it on my role PM". That would wind up looking bad for TexCat. Conversely, "yeah, I have exactly one power but there is no number before it" would be data point in her favor. With this many PM's sent out at the same time it's highly likely that the template won't be consistant. I know mine weren't when I modded Story tend to be pretty consistant. However nobody is perfect (but he's pretty close). But I have to agree. In his Evil Dead I I hurt town so much when I didn't trust Cookie based on her qouting me as "Total lost" and not "Total Lost". Turned out that a capital letter or not isn't really a scum tell
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 15:22:32 GMT -5
NETA: I made a mistake in my previous post. Please change "and according to your own PM" to "and according to Silver Jan's PM". I forgot who was who there for a moment. Also, in response to this According to texcat's PM, 'destroying Gotham' is precisely the Town's goal. And you seem to be the only person who really has a problem with this idea. Why do you suppose that is? My Role-PM says nothing about destroying Gotham. In fact it seems to indicate that I want to maintain status qou before the alleged return of Batman. /Oog writing this with a fever and feeling I mislocated my brain and therefore too tired to check for misspelling. Hope it still makes sense I didn't mean to imply that everybody's PM mentions "destroying Gotham". My own does not use that phrase. But nobody besides LightFoot seemed particularly upset by the idea that that was in fact the Town goal; that was my point.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 8, 2012 15:30:59 GMT -5
His power lies in his Batsuit. It can be taken from him. I'm not sure how. Batman is most assuredly scum and not 3rd party. Look with suspicion on those who have kept pushing the idea that he is 3rd party. Interesting. So it's outlined in your PM that Batman is 100% scum? Or is that inference on how your PM is worded? Just curious. Reason I ask is because I was thinking I was clever for picking up context clues that Batman isn't actually scum but PFK this time, and I'm a little sad I was wrong if he is scum. Also, why would people who suggested the idea he was third-party be suspicious? If he can recruit and is scum, he probably doesn't have too many allies to begin with. Furthermore, Batman gets lynched once he's discovered regardless. It's practically definite that Batman is anti-town in some way, so what does it matter if some people were postulating he was possibly PFK and not scum?
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 8, 2012 15:32:03 GMT -5
Also, in response to this My Role-PM says nothing about destroying Gotham. In fact it seems to indicate that I want to maintain status qou before the alleged return of Batman. /Oog writing this with a fever and feeling I mislocated my brain and therefore too tired to check for misspelling. Hope it still makes sense I didn't mean to imply that everybody's PM mentions "destroying Gotham". My own does not use that phrase. But nobody besides LightFoot seemed particularly upset by the idea that that was in fact the Town goal; that was my point.[/ I understand. But I wanted to make it clear we didn't need to focus on the words "destroy Gotham". That was my only point.
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Post by Chronos on Mar 8, 2012 15:33:50 GMT -5
To the extent that it means anything, I would expect "destroying Gotham" to be a goal of a PFK, not someone who in this game would be called Town or Scum.
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 8, 2012 15:37:04 GMT -5
To the extent that it means anything, I would expect "destroying Gotham" to be a goal of a PFK, not someone who in this game would be called Town or Scum. egad! I was not typing in a nonsensical language to atleast one player
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Mar 8, 2012 15:39:55 GMT -5
crap. just about caught up. i'm still not keen on lynching Pleo. i am a also hesitant to vote for Texcat after her claim although it is a convenient claim since there are hints of multiple killers. is the last vote count still up to date? You have assumed that texcat’s alignment is indeed Town. Mafia as I know it Town is the “good guys” ( not because of their names because of their alignment) . Ridding the game of all Scum is the goal. Destroying Town would not be a goal of Town ( atleast that is how my mind sees it) First, I assume nothing about texcat's alignment. I merely point out that texcat states her alignment is Town and that she is out to 'destroy Gotham'. Second, please stop confusing 'Town', 'Mafia', 'good guys', and 'bad guys'. According to the PM that texcat posted, and according to your own PM, Town is comprised in this game of people who are 'anti-Gotham', and Scum are composed of people who are 'pro-Gotham' (also supported by Ed's claim that Batman is Scum). Please, please just go with that, and nothing else. Don't worry about the underlying motivations of the characters, only the factions with which they are aligned in this game. The argument that "Town are the 'bad guys' in this game, but Town are supposed to be the 'good guys', so that's how I'm going to refer to them" will at best only cause additional confusion and at worst will cause you to be mislynched. why do you use the word 'mislynch' instead of 'lynch'? seems you're implying that Lightfoot is town. but how would you know that? Unvote CookiesVote Suburban Plankton
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 15:41:36 GMT -5
His power lies in his Batsuit. It can be taken from him. I'm not sure how. Batman is most assuredly scum and not 3rd party. Look with suspicion on those who have kept pushing the idea that he is 3rd party. Interesting. So it's outlined in your PM that Batman is 100% scum? Or is that inference on how your PM is worded? Just curious. Reason I ask is because I was thinking I was clever for picking up context clues that Batman isn't actually scum but PFK this time, and I'm a little sad I was wrong if he is scum. Also, why would people who suggested the idea he was third-party be suspicious? If he can recruit and is scum, he probably doesn't have too many allies to begin with. Furthermore, Batman gets lynched once he's discovered regardless. It's practically definite that Batman is anti-town in some way, so what does it matter if some people were postulating he was possibly PFK and not scum? Scum might want us thinking he is 3rd party. Also he is clearly the leader of the scum.
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2012 15:44:55 GMT -5
Brilliant. let's out all the power roles. or atleast all the single power roles? Are you sure you just typed that? Not "all", just one person coming forward and saying "yeah, I have exactly one power and there is a '1.' before it on my role PM". That would wind up looking bad for TexCat. Conversely, "yeah, I have exactly one power but there is no number before it" would be data point in her favor. i'll play along since my shelf life is generally so limited. also, my power kind of blows from any kind of game changing perspective. first it says POWERS: (plural) but i only have one and it has no numeral. it's just blah blah blah.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 15:48:24 GMT -5
As everyone is doing it, I suppose http/ doesnt count lol ETFJGALUHAWAGLY. This was the funniest part of my PM Not 'everyone' is doing it. Some of us don't give in to peer pressure... ...or we're just stupid. Only time will tell.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 8, 2012 15:50:37 GMT -5
Not "all", just one person coming forward and saying "yeah, I have exactly one power and there is a '1.' before it on my role PM". That would wind up looking bad for TexCat. Conversely, "yeah, I have exactly one power but there is no number before it" would be data point in her favor. i'll play along since my shelf life is generally so limited. also, my power kind of blows from any kind of game changing perspective. first it says POWERS: (plural) but i only have one and it has no numeral. it's just blah blah blah. Hehe Peeks, I believe you, mine says the same thing lol Seriously onto tea now, but I still don't think I can make it
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 15:52:36 GMT -5
Not "all", just one person coming forward and saying "yeah, I have exactly one power and there is a '1.' before it on my role PM". That would wind up looking bad for TexCat. Conversely, "yeah, I have exactly one power but there is no number before it" would be data point in her favor. i'll play along since my shelf life is generally so limited. also, my power kind of blows from any kind of game changing perspective. first it says POWERS: (plural) but i only have one and it has no numeral. it's just blah blah blah. Ok. I won't fret over it. And it may be selfish but I'd rather lynch texcat on the chance she's scum or PFK and lose Hal too than me and Pleo. Now I'm not so sure. I guess I'm ok with either. And I've gotten my useful info out there.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 8, 2012 15:53:15 GMT -5
As everyone is doing it, I suppose http/ doesnt count lol ETFJGALUHAWAGLY. This was the funniest part of my PM Not 'everyone' is doing it. Some of us don't give in to peer pressure... ...or we're just stupid. Only time will tell. No you aren't stupid, I had just posted a http//: something and then when that didn't match my PM I would have been killed, that's all I'm saying
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 15:54:39 GMT -5
crap. just about caught up. i'm still not keen on lynching Pleo. i am a also hesitant to vote for Texcat after her claim although it is a convenient claim since there are hints of multiple killers. is the last vote count still up to date? First, I assume nothing about texcat's alignment. I merely point out that texcat states her alignment is Town and that she is out to 'destroy Gotham'. Second, please stop confusing 'Town', 'Mafia', 'good guys', and 'bad guys'. According to the PM that texcat posted, and according to your own PM, Town is comprised in this game of people who are 'anti-Gotham', and Scum are composed of people who are 'pro-Gotham' (also supported by Ed's claim that Batman is Scum). Please, please just go with that, and nothing else. Don't worry about the underlying motivations of the characters, only the factions with which they are aligned in this game. The argument that "Town are the 'bad guys' in this game, but Town are supposed to be the 'good guys', so that's how I'm going to refer to them" will at best only cause additional confusion and at worst will cause you to be mislynched. why do you use the word 'mislynch' instead of 'lynch'? seems you're implying that Lightfoot is town. but how would you know that? Unvote CookiesVote Suburban PlanktonThanks. I was waiting for someone to come in and make that very argument. Suppose LightFoot is Scum. Then lynching her would not be a 'mislynch' at all. So it wouldn't be the 'worst case' scenario, would it? Technically, I suppose I should have made that the 'best case' scenario: "Best case is you'll ignore what I'm saying, get lynched, and flip Scum"...but that would have been rather wordy. Besides, I would have thought it was exceedingly obvious that there was an implicit 'assuming you're Town' there, since I was giving her advice on how to best play the game. If we were both Scum, I'd be doing that on the Scum board. But thanks for taking you one-off vote off the board, and replacing it with another one-off vote.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 8, 2012 15:56:03 GMT -5
P.S. I am glad you didn't kow tow to peer pressure like I did
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 15:56:14 GMT -5
Not "all", just one person coming forward and saying "yeah, I have exactly one power and there is a '1.' before it on my role PM". That would wind up looking bad for TexCat. Conversely, "yeah, I have exactly one power but there is no number before it" would be data point in her favor. i'll play along since my shelf life is generally so limited. also, my power kind of blows from any kind of game changing perspective. first it says POWERS: (plural) but i only have one and it has no numeral. it's just blah blah blah. The structure of texcat's PM is consistent with my own as well.
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