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Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2012 15:59:29 GMT -5
and i'll post my acrostic. didn't know how to deal with hyphenation so i just went with the first letter of each separate word. i also left off the powers section since i ran out of paper writing it down.
hhiwiwrbinifdprwttgyardph3dopskmtabasapiaanynebtboao psldylttttgifscyoyscmcfaogyagpitfiblaiybaytmatmdo oysycbcapfatrwshtdirywiafyaatscolamlysyfhwnslt anyfyaffyiawombftbitaeihntnshhlbrtsogmooth aofagwyssjbciyeuawfbigtlrboyr.
probably fucked something up in there but it's pretty damn close.
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 8, 2012 16:00:49 GMT -5
One more time before I call the horse officially dead
Town is the preferred faction in this game, right?
We want Town to win. ( well those who are Town do)
So they are the positive faction.
Someone saying Town is the bad guys ( because of their names) is just as disconcerting as my use of good guys because of their alignment.
Which I will do my very best to discontinue * off to find another positive word for the preferred alignment.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Mar 8, 2012 16:01:26 GMT -5
One hour remains until the deadline. The vote count has not changed since the last time it was posted. As the votes now stand, Pleonast will be lynch-ified.
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 16:04:11 GMT -5
One hour remains until the deadline. The vote count has not changed since the last time it was posted. As the votes now stand, Pleonast will be lynch-ified. Does Gnarlycharlie's vote in post #890 not count?
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 16:06:57 GMT -5
Also, I find it odd that Jan and Plankton are/were both against the presumed handshaking of the acrostic suggestion, but have no problem with using similarly almost-metagamey information to help clear another player (outing themselves as power roles in the process, natch).
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 16:11:36 GMT -5
Sorry for the multiposts. My thoughts aren't coming fast enough to land in the same train together. Interesting. So it's outlined in your PM that Batman is 100% scum? Or is that inference on how your PM is worded? Just curious. Reason I ask is because I was thinking I was clever for picking up context clues that Batman isn't actually scum but PFK this time, and I'm a little sad I was wrong if he is scum. Also, why would people who suggested the idea he was third-party be suspicious? If he can recruit and is scum, he probably doesn't have too many allies to begin with. Furthermore, Batman gets lynched once he's discovered regardless. It's practically definite that Batman is anti-town in some way, so what does it matter if some people were postulating he was possibly PFK and not scum? Scum might want us thinking he is 3rd party. Also he is clearly the leader of the scum. Does your PM suggest Batman may be a godfather role of some kind, then? Immune to investigation? I'm guessing it doesn't suggest anything one way or another, because you probably would have stated so if it did, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2012 16:12:50 GMT -5
and ed i kind of feel your pain. but if pleo really is trying to help town with conditions that he sets forward a kill on someone for such an arbitrary and capricious reason gives me no hope whatsoever in "negotiating" with him. matter of fact it smells of someone saying i will kill a town if i don't get my way. if that is indeed the case then he needs to go bye bye now before he really fucks something up. in this specific case it looks like you get to be collateral damage.
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 16:13:08 GMT -5
Sorry for the multiposts. My thoughts aren't coming fast enough to land in the same train together. Scum might want us thinking he is 3rd party. Also he is clearly the leader of the scum. Does your PM suggest Batman may be a godfather role of some kind, then? Immune to investigation? I'm guessing it doesn't suggest anything one way or another, because you probably would have stated so if it did, but I figured I'd ask anyway. It really doesn't say how he might look to a standard investigator. Because I've marked myself anyway, let's just say one of my powers involves trying to find him
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 8, 2012 16:13:25 GMT -5
Also, I find it odd that Jan and Plankton are/were both against the presumed handshaking of the acrostic suggestion, but have no problem with using similarly almost-metagamey information to help clear another player (outing themselves as power roles in the process, natch). As I said before, I had joked with the acrostic and if I had to claim everyone would would say"Look Her Pm does not start with Http//" and I would be lynched for it, I decided to bow to peer pressure and give an acrostic, does it mean I am scum? No, it just means I don't want to be mislynched for something stupid.
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 16:13:56 GMT -5
and ed i kind of feel your pain. but if pleo really is trying to help town with conditions that he sets forward a kill on someone for such an arbitrary and capricious reason gives me no hope whatsoever in "negotiating" with him. matter of fact it smells of someone saying i will kill a town if i don't get my way. if that is indeed the case then he needs to go bye bye now before he really fucks something up. in this specific case it looks like you get to be collateral damage. Yeah, someone must die. I was just looking forward to this game.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 8, 2012 16:15:11 GMT -5
Neta, what meta gamey thing have I done//
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 16:16:24 GMT -5
Also, I find it odd that Jan and Plankton are/were both against the presumed handshaking of the acrostic suggestion, but have no problem with using similarly almost-metagamey information to help clear another player (outing themselves as power roles in the process, natch). As I said before, I had joked with the acrostic and if I had to claim everyone would would say"Look Her Pm does not start with Http//" and I would be lynched for it, I decided to bow to peer pressure and give an acrostic, does it mean I am scum? No, it just means I don't want to be mislynched for something stupid. I never said I thought you were scum because of it. I knew the "http//" thing was a joke response, but I thought you also objected to doing the acrostic at all at the time. If I'm wrong, I apologize--there are too many pages for me to go back to find the post right now.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 16:16:29 GMT -5
Also, I find it odd that Jan and Plankton are/were both against the presumed handshaking of the acrostic suggestion, but have no problem with using similarly almost-metagamey information to help clear another player (outing themselves as power roles in the process, natch). I suppose I can see how you would think it's hypocritical. I disagree. In your opinion, what conclusions can you draw from our hypocrisy?
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2012 16:16:46 GMT -5
One more time before I call the horse officially dead Town is the preferred faction in this game, right? We want Town to win. ( well those who are Town do) So they are the positive faction. Someone saying Town is the bad guys ( because of their names) is just as disconcerting as my use of good guys because of their alignment. Which I will do my very best to discontinue * off to find another positive word for the preferred alignment. quit digging the fucker out of the ground and beating it some more. town v scum et al. otie dotie. good, bad, positive, negative. aiieeee.
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Post by guiri on Mar 8, 2012 16:17:49 GMT -5
Sorry for my participation toDay, I've been quite ill and stuggling to keep up with the pace of the game. In my role PM, Storyteller told me that if someone showed up claiming to be <redacted>, they're probably lying. Does your PM really say "probably"?
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 16:20:00 GMT -5
Neta, what meta gamey thing have I done// The way the PMs are written (ie, the expectation that they all read "Powers, 1. etc" even for single powers) is metagamey information. Arguably moreso than the acrostic. I found it odd and just a little hypocrtical that anyone who objected to the metagamey nature of the acrostic had no problem jumping on board the PM wording idea. If any objection you had to the acrostic was not based on it being considered metagamey, then I retract my comments as they applied to you.
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 16:21:45 GMT -5
Also, I find it odd that Jan and Plankton are/were both against the presumed handshaking of the acrostic suggestion, but have no problem with using similarly almost-metagamey information to help clear another player (outing themselves as power roles in the process, natch). I suppose I can see how you would think it's hypocritical. I disagree. In your opinion, what conclusions can you draw from our hypocrisy? I can draw no conclusions at this time, and probably never will. But I still wanted to point out something that I felt was very odd and inconsistent with your previous opinions.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Mar 8, 2012 16:24:29 GMT -5
Right now, I really want to vote for Peeker, as his acrostic destroys my ability to read the boards - I have aging eyes and a small, second hand VDU. His unbroken string of characters means I have roughly one-third of the screen unviewable. Where's the Ignore option gone? I'm not going to vote Peeker though, because that's an OOG issue. I'm going to Vote: Texcat (Look at that. The Vote tags do work.) I don't trust either of the two lead candidates. Pleo is trying bullying tactics, and I react badly to those in Mafia. "Do what I say or else" isn't the sort of approach I like. I tend to call the bluff, even if it gets me killed. That way, next time people know that when I refuse to play along it's from principle. I'm voting for Texcat primarily because her PM reads more to me like a PFK Serial Killer than a Vig. Consider. I saw Batman Begins recently. (Yattara brought it over when she visited at the end of Jan). Ra's didn't care whether he was killing the good guys or the bad - he wanted everyone dead, and that's the impression conveyed by the colour. Eliminating an SK early is desirable; read Storyteller's Evil Dead (the first game) if you don't believe me. The Demons couldn't kill fast enough to win. Why not?? because we jumped at the chance of killing SKs early (days 2 and 4) and before they could rack up a body count. Iirc, Peeker killed one person, and poor Blaster Master managed none; not through lack of trying, but everyone he tried to kill was immune to his attacks. So Peeker won the great murder-off 1-0.
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2012 16:27:26 GMT -5
Sorry for my participation toDay, I've been quite ill and stuggling to keep up with the pace of the game. In my role PM, Storyteller told me that if someone showed up claiming to be <redacted>, they're probably lying. Does your PM really say "probably"? rut fucking roh.
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Post by guiri on Mar 8, 2012 16:28:57 GMT -5
Has Hal claimed anything beyond posting the standard town wincon?
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2012 16:31:37 GMT -5
Right now, I really want to vote for Peeker, as his acrostic destroys my ability to read the boards <snipped> hey, don't bitch at me it was chronos's suggestion. little bit of mod help. maybe chop the fucker up in smaller bits or something.i mean it reads ok to me. maybe change a "wrap text" setting or something.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 8, 2012 16:32:29 GMT -5
Neta, what meta gamey thing have I done// The way the PMs are written (ie, the expectation that they all read "Powers, 1. etc" even for single powers) is metagamey information. Arguably moreso than the acrostic. I found it odd and just a little hypocrtical that anyone who objected to the metagamey nature of the acrostic had no problem jumping on board the PM wording idea. If any objection you had to the acrostic was not based on it being considered metagamey, then I retract my comments as they applied to you. Ok, I hear you but I thought meta gaming was taking info from a previous game and bringing that knowledge into the present game and using that information to make decisions that have no real bearing on the present game. Likewise with people that you have played with before. I did bow down to peer pressure and I don't like the fact that I did it.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 16:33:07 GMT -5
Has Hal claimed anything beyond posting the standard town wincon? No. Why should he?
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 16:33:44 GMT -5
Has Hal claimed anything beyond posting the standard town wincon? He implied being non-vanilla back when he called out Idle on his implication that he's non-vanilla. Don't remember the post number, sorry; it was early in the Day. That's all I've seen.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Mar 8, 2012 16:33:59 GMT -5
hey, don't bitch at me it was chronos's suggestion. You can edit it yourself. I promise not to vote you for editing (at least, not that post.)
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Mar 8, 2012 16:35:11 GMT -5
crap. just about caught up. i'm still not keen on lynching Pleo. i am a also hesitant to vote for Texcat after her claim although it is a convenient claim since there are hints of multiple killers. is the last vote count still up to date? why do you use the word 'mislynch' instead of 'lynch'? seems you're implying that Lightfoot is town. but how would you know that? Unvote CookiesVote Suburban PlanktonThanks. I was waiting for someone to come in and make that very argument. Suppose LightFoot is Scum. Then lynching her would not be a 'mislynch' at all. So it wouldn't be the 'worst case' scenario, would it? Technically, I suppose I should have made that the 'best case' scenario: "Best case is you'll ignore what I'm saying, get lynched, and flip Scum"...but that would have been rather wordy. Besides, I would have thought it was exceedingly obvious that there was an implicit 'assuming you're Town' there, since I was giving her advice on how to best play the game. If we were both Scum, I'd be doing that on the Scum board. But thanks for taking you one-off vote off the board, and replacing it with another one-off vote. that's your explanation and you were waiting for that? were you nervous while waiting? why didn't you NETA and clarify? then you get back at me with a criticism of a one-off vote? trying to put me on the defensive? i already said why i wouldn't vote for Pleo, Ed, Hal or texcat. it's not the first time someone did that. it won't be the last. i suppose you've never done it.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 8, 2012 16:36:35 GMT -5
I'm not moving my vote from texcat. I don't believe her claim and she made it far too late in the day and jaunted off for the rest of the Day. When you're a strong candidate for the lynch and you know your claim is going to be contentious, you have to make it when you'll have time to at least pop in and respond to people.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 16:36:41 GMT -5
So we have a tie vote half an hour before Dusk. Unless I'm mistaken, Pleonast is still the 'leader' by virtue of the tie-breaking rules, correct?
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 16:36:54 GMT -5
Right now, I really want to vote for Peeker, as his acrostic destroys my ability to read the boards <snipped> hey, don't bitch at me it was chronos's suggestion. little bit of mod help. maybe chop the fucker up in smaller bits or something.i mean it reads ok to me. maybe change a "wrap text" setting or something. you could always edit it.....
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 8, 2012 16:37:10 GMT -5
Also, I think texcat was the one who first brought up the possibility of Batman being a PFK which amuses me.
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