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Post by sinjin on Mar 8, 2012 16:39:05 GMT -5
[oog]I am also sorry for my non-participation today. My grand-daughter is sick and keeps barfing on me. My keyboard now smells like vomit. She's bounced back a little and is now watching a movie, in between telling me to go home and asking me for stuff I can't understand so we play 60 questions. [/oog]
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Merestil Haye
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Post by Merestil Haye on Mar 8, 2012 16:39:08 GMT -5
Thank you, Peeker. Much more pleasant. Have a karma point.
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 8, 2012 16:39:31 GMT -5
So we have a tie vote half an hour before Dusk. Unless I'm mistaken, Pleonast is still the 'leader' by virtue of the tie-breaking rules, correct? The player with the highest number of votes at the lynch deadline will be lynched (if “no lynch” has received more votes than any player, no lynch will occur). In the event of a tie, the player who was first to reach the vote number at which the tie occurred for the last time will be lynched. So if Catinasuit reaches five votes, then goes up to six votes, and then Hoopy Frood reaches five votes, and THEN someone unvotes Catinasuit – Hoopy Frood, who reached five votes for the last time first, will be lynched. This is admittedly arbitrary; avoid ties.
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 16:39:49 GMT -5
The way the PMs are written (ie, the expectation that they all read "Powers, 1. etc" even for single powers) is metagamey information. Arguably moreso than the acrostic. I found it odd and just a little hypocrtical that anyone who objected to the metagamey nature of the acrostic had no problem jumping on board the PM wording idea. If any objection you had to the acrostic was not based on it being considered metagamey, then I retract my comments as they applied to you. Ok, I hear you but I thought meta gaming was taking info from a previous game and bringing that knowledge into the present game and using that information to make decisions that have no real bearing on the present game. Likewise with people that you have played with before. I did bow down to peer pressure and I don't like the fact that I did it. I consider metagaming to use information that was intended to be used in the game. What is understood to be intended or not varies from player to player, though, so I admit it's very subjective. I'm sure Pleonast, for example, has a fewer hangups than I do over what would be considered metagaming. What Pizzaguy talked about before regarding checking when players are online and what/how much they post when they are is something I consider metagaming, of the kind I will not even touch, myself. Player histories, though (ie, "Dirx tends to gloat about Alpha Centauri when he's scum") is not necessarily metagaming, to me.
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2012 16:39:59 GMT -5
hey, don't bitch at me it was chronos's suggestion. You can edit it yourself. I promise not to vote you for editing (at least, not that post.) done. i am just unaccustomed to editing at all. now fucking peo will probably kill my ass. but you know what? based on what ed has said and why i know to be true about my role that is a net gain for town.
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2012 16:41:25 GMT -5
neta: and i mean a net gain for town in the power component. ed's a total fucking idiot when it comes to sussing out scum whereas i am just a fucking idiot. so probably it's still marginally better for town.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 16:42:30 GMT -5
that's your explanation and you were waiting for that? were you nervous while waiting? why didn't you NETA and clarify? then you get back at me with a criticism of a one-off vote? trying to put me on the defensive? i already said why i wouldn't vote for Pleo, Ed, Hal or texcat. it's not the first time someone did that. it won't be the last. i suppose you've never done it. Yes, that's my explanation. Yes, I was 'waiting for that'. No, I was not nervous. After I had made my post, it occurred to me that someone would probably latch on to the word 'mislynch' and make the very argument you made. Sure, I could have added a NETA post to explain myself. Instead I thought I'd wait and see if anyone pointed it out. You did, and I responded. And that pretty much catches us up to the present. I do see now that I've gone back and looked that you did make one post 2 days ago where you talked about why you weren't voting for any of those players at the time. I had forgotten that you had made it.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 16:44:13 GMT -5
So we have a tie vote half an hour before Dusk. Unless I'm mistaken, Pleonast is still the 'leader' by virtue of the tie-breaking rules, correct? The player with the highest number of votes at the lynch deadline will be lynched (if “no lynch” has received more votes than any player, no lynch will occur). In the event of a tie, the player who was first to reach the vote number at which the tie occurred for the last time will be lynched. So if Catinasuit reaches five votes, then goes up to six votes, and then Hoopy Frood reaches five votes, and THEN someone unvotes Catinasuit – Hoopy Frood, who reached five votes for the last time first, will be lynched. This is admittedly arbitrary; avoid ties. Is that a 'yes'? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Mar 8, 2012 16:44:21 GMT -5
Lightfoot and Jan,
still keeping votes on Hal?
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Post by Pleonast on Mar 8, 2012 16:45:02 GMT -5
Not sure exactly where the vote count is, but I need to be voting for whoever is on top. I don't really want to be the tie-breaker, but that's where we are, maybe. unvote vote texcat
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Post by guiri on Mar 8, 2012 16:45:59 GMT -5
Pleo, have you changed your Day action?
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 16:46:18 GMT -5
The player with the highest number of votes at the lynch deadline will be lynched (if “no lynch” has received more votes than any player, no lynch will occur). In the event of a tie, the player who was first to reach the vote number at which the tie occurred for the last time will be lynched. So if Catinasuit reaches five votes, then goes up to six votes, and then Hoopy Frood reaches five votes, and THEN someone unvotes Catinasuit – Hoopy Frood, who reached five votes for the last time first, will be lynched. This is admittedly arbitrary; avoid ties. Is that a 'yes'? ;D ;D ;D As far as I understand the tie-breaking rules, yeah, looks like Pleo is still the candidate. The last time he reached 10 votes came before the last time Texcat reached 10 votes. . . . I think.
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 16:46:24 GMT -5
Ok, I hear you but I thought meta gaming was taking info from a previous game and bringing that knowledge into the present game and using that information to make decisions that have no real bearing on the present game. Likewise with people that you have played with before. I did bow down to peer pressure and I don't like the fact that I did it. I consider metagaming to use information that was intended to be used in the game. What is understood to be intended or not varies from player to player, though, so I admit it's very subjective. I'm sure Pleonast, for example, has a fewer hangups than I do over what would be considered metagaming. What Pizzaguy talked about before regarding checking when players are online and what/how much they post when they are is something I consider metagaming, of the kind I will not even touch, myself. Player histories, though (ie, " Dirx tends to gloat about Alpha Centauri when he's scum") is not necessarily metagaming, to me. FFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF UUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUU
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2012 16:46:56 GMT -5
shit. posted for reply purposes only.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 8, 2012 16:48:02 GMT -5
shit. posted for reply purposes only. You don't really need a purpose for posting shit.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 8, 2012 16:48:08 GMT -5
A question that may be interesting occurs to me. Gnarly, and any others who have questioned the wisdom of people voting for Hal, who, of the current voted would you prefer to see DKed? Because if people unvote Hal, I believe Drain would be next in line. Assuming, of course that texcat is lynched and not Pleo, as in that case, Pleo has already promised to rid us of Ed.
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 16:48:50 GMT -5
Not sure exactly where the vote count is, but I need to be voting for whoever is on top. I don't really want to be the tie-breaker, but that's where we are, maybe. unvotevote texcatare self-preservation votes a scum tell?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 8, 2012 16:49:16 GMT -5
Only if they come literally at the last minute.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Mar 8, 2012 16:50:01 GMT -5
so texcat is in the lead now?
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Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 8, 2012 16:50:10 GMT -5
A question that may be interesting occurs to me. Gnarly, and any others who have questioned the wisdom of people voting for Hal, who, of the current voted would you prefer to see DKed? Because if people unvote Hal, I believe Drain would be next in line. Assuming, of course that texcat is lynched and not Pleo, as in that case, Pleo has already promised to rid us of Ed. I could unvote Hal and vote for Pleo just to really screw with things.
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2012 16:52:03 GMT -5
shit. posted for reply purposes only. you folks are fucking nuts. we are going to lynch a possible DISCRETIONARY TOWN VIG over a claimed third party that has already affirmed that he will only help town if we do what he says. plus the possible implications of a DK. and right now he says it's on fucking ed who could be helpful. i sure hope that tex flips scum or pfk. otherwise everyone of her voters gets to kneel at the altar of stupidity tomorrow and bonk themselves on the head.
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Post by Hal Briston on Mar 8, 2012 16:52:13 GMT -5
Well, don't particularly care for doing this, but since a little vote movement in the next 10 minutes could lead to me being zapped by Pleonast's IronyBlaster, I'm going to do what I can to keep the only one I know to be town alive.
Unvote TexCat Vote Pleonast
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 8, 2012 16:53:32 GMT -5
If she flips town, then I hope she learns a valuable lesson about the timing of claims.
Pollux, it's your vote to do with as you see fit. If hijinks are what you desire then we can't really stop you.
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Post by Archangel on Mar 8, 2012 16:53:54 GMT -5
Hi guys. Bill and SilverJan were kind enough to inform me day had started, but I just got home and I understand it ends in 6 minutes. I will try to skim the day but I do not think I can vote intelligently after reading 32 pages in 5 min. so most likely I will abstain from voting today. I'm sorry and I'll try to be more on the ball next Day.
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 16:54:23 GMT -5
shit. posted for reply purposes only. you folks are fucking nuts. we are going to lynch a possible DISCRETIONARY TOWN VIG over a claimed third party that has already affirmed that he will only help town if we do what he says. plus the possible implications of a DK. and right now he says it's on fucking ed who could be helpful. i sure hope that tex flips scum or pfk. otherwise everyone of her voters gets to kneel at the altar of stupidity tomorrow and bonk themselves on the head. would it be different if you changed Discretionary Vig to PFK Serial Killer?
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Post by Gadarene on Mar 8, 2012 16:54:42 GMT -5
Stay on Pleo. TexCat is a claimed Town vig. We should NOT be lynching her today.
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Post by special on Mar 8, 2012 16:54:55 GMT -5
Hi guys. Bill and SilverJan were kind enough to inform me day had started, but I just got home and I understand it ends in 6 minutes. I will try to skim the day but I do not think I can vote intelligently after reading 32 pages in 5 min. so most likely I will abstain from voting today. I'm sorry and I'll try to be more on the ball next Day. This is the post of the Day. hands down.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Mar 8, 2012 16:55:10 GMT -5
Well, don't particularly care for doing this, but since a little vote movement in the next 10 minutes could lead to me being zapped by Pleonast's IronyBlaster, I'm going to do what I can to keep the only one I know to be town alive. Unvote TexCatVote Pleonastknow? explain.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 8, 2012 16:55:19 GMT -5
Pollux, it's your vote to do with as you see fit. If hijinks are what you desire then we can't really stop you. It's not so much hijinks as juggling texcat, Ed, Pleo, and Hal all at once and trying to figure out who I really think should be lynched and who should be saved. Pleo - needs to be lynched texcat - believe her claim Ed - believe he's town, feel bad for him being hit by Pleo Hal - think he's scum not not sure.
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Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2012 16:55:35 GMT -5
I consider metagaming to use information that was intended to be used in the game. What is understood to be intended or not varies from player to player, though, so I admit it's very subjective. I'm sure Pleonast, for example, has a fewer hangups than I do over what would be considered metagaming. What Pizzaguy talked about before regarding checking when players are online and what/how much they post when they are is something I consider metagaming, of the kind I will not even touch, myself. Player histories, though (ie, " Dirx tends to gloat about Alpha Centauri when he's scum") is not necessarily metagaming, to me. FFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF UUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUU I love you too! A question that may be interesting occurs to me. Gnarly, and any others who have questioned the wisdom of people voting for Hal, who, of the current voted would you prefer to see DKed? Because if people unvote Hal, I believe Drain would be next in line. Assuming, of course that texcat is lynched and not Pleo, as in that case, Pleo has already promised to rid us of Ed. I don't know. I do know that I'm getting townie vibes from Hal, so I'd prefer not to see him killed right now. I also think the votes on him make extremely little sense, as I discussed earlier, so I think he has no business being the runner up right now. He is only because the bulk of the votes are caught in a tug of war between Pleo and Texcat. I guess, barring any scummy leanings on other players, I would prefer a more unknown get killed. I absolutely believe there's always lurking scum on Day 1, and so hitting a Day 1 lurker is not a bad idea if you're looking for scum and have no other leads. so texcat is in the lead now? Yes. At least at the time I started this post. I effing hate how I can't preview new posts while composing. Biggest damn gripe I have with proboards.
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