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Post by Meeko on Mar 11, 2012 15:27:49 GMT -5
On the speculation of Pollux Oil's device: MORE breaking news? Ooh, look - Pollux Oil appears to have something strapped to his waist. It appears to be a small, black box with dozens of wires, complicated gears, machinery, and old-fashioned sticks of TNT, with a giant "ACME" logo on it. It's ticking continuously. On the front is a digital readout, which says only the number "7." Huh. Well. Somebody's got a sense of humor. Wonder what Pollux will do with that.Bold is mine. ""Somebody's got a sense of humor"" ..... Remember that the Joker is speaking. : 1. The Joker is simply speaking in his style. And nothing can be deduced. 2. The comment is an allusion to another character [role] 3. The comment is out of world, and is commenting on a player. ""Wonder what Pollux will do with that"" There is an implication that Pollux can do something with it. This leads me to believe that Pollux can actually do something with it. Unless, again, it's a passive throw away comment.
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Post by Chronos on Mar 11, 2012 15:29:31 GMT -5
You mean in the comics, or in the game? If you mean the game, the people who know probably ain't telling. In the comics, Batman has had a variety of sidekicks who all wore the "Robin" alter-ego, most of whom have gone one to become heroes in their own right.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 11, 2012 15:35:15 GMT -5
I am still not Happy that Hal pushed all Pleos buttons. I know that I didn't want Pleo lynched and I'm still not sure that we did the right thing except WE GOT ED!!! YAY. I am still happy to vote for Hal again, I mean really, you don't give an unknown 3rd party extra powers. Yes it did work to Towns advantage, thankfully, but he could be the BAD PFK!! I would like to know if Robin is still Batman's side kick? Do you think powering up Pleo's kill is a scummy move, or merely an anti-town one? Please justify your answer. Do you have any other suspicions other than Hal? Yesterday was pretty eventful, after all. I am not sure if it was a scummy move but that maybe just because I laughed afterwards. No I thought it was a pretty scummy thing to do. Yes I do have other suspicions If you are on Towns side would you really fire up a 3rd party that can do a Day Kill? Yes, it worked out great for Town but I think it was accidental.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 11, 2012 15:37:52 GMT -5
So, lessee if I got this right.
First was Dick Grayson who eventually became Nightwing. He was replaced by Jason Todd who was murdered by the joker but later undied and became Red Hood. Next we have Tim Drake who was made to retire from being Robin by his dad at which point his girlfriend, Stephanie Brown, became the first female Robin. But Batman got pissed and kicked her out and then she was bumped off by Black Mask. Except it was all a ruse and she came back to being Robin and then moved on up to Batgirl, leaving the Robin slot open for Tim Drake. Drake then moves on to being Red Robin and Damian Wayne, son of Bruce Wayne, becomes Robin. Batman and Robin a father-son duo? No, apparently by this point, Dick Grayson has assumed the mantle of Batman. This is all very interesting and probably not helpful in the least.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 11, 2012 15:44:07 GMT -5
I am still not Happy that Hal pushed all Pleos buttons. I know that I didn't want Pleo lynched and I'm still not sure that we did the right thing except WE GOT ED!!! YAY. I am still happy to vote for Hal again, I mean really, you don't give an unknown 3rd party extra powers. Yes it did work to Towns advantage, thankfully, but he could be the BAD PFK!! I would like to know if Robin is still Batman's side kick? So you're joining Idle in the opinion that Hal bussed his scum-buddy Bat?
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Post by Chronos on Mar 11, 2012 15:49:24 GMT -5
The thing with Hal is, him powering up Pleo wasn't really pro-Town or pro-Scum. It was pro-Pleo, who if you'll recall wasn't on either of those two teams. Scum had no more reason to want him powered up than Town did.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 11, 2012 16:01:21 GMT -5
I am still not Happy that Hal pushed all Pleos buttons. I know that I didn't want Pleo lynched and I'm still not sure that we did the right thing except WE GOT ED!!! YAY. I am still happy to vote for Hal again, I mean really, you don't give an unknown 3rd party extra powers. Yes it did work to Towns advantage, thankfully, but he could be the BAD PFK!! I would like to know if Robin is still Batman's side kick? So you're joining Idle in the opinion that Hal bussed his scum-buddy Bat? I am not sure BUT I have a secret that I can't keep. I have never been able to keep a secret. We have already nailed 2 SCUM and I think I have a 3rd one. I know I will be killed tomorrow but I thought I should get this information out. LightFoot is Robin. The info I got was not in colour though and LightFoot was Robin. I am sorry if I gave out this info too soon but I can't keep it a secret if I find scum. If my PM had come back as a Townie....I would have kept my mouth shut until EOD unless the Townie was being lynched
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 11, 2012 16:03:25 GMT -5
So, lessee if I got this right. First was Dick Grayson who eventually became Nightwing. He was replaced by Jason Todd who was murdered by the joker but later undied and became Red Hood. Next we have Tim Drake who was made to retire from being Robin by his dad at which point his girlfriend, Stephanie Brown, became the first female Robin. But Batman got pissed and kicked her out and then she was bumped off by Black Mask. Except it was all a ruse and she came back to being Robin and then moved on up to Batgirl, leaving the Robin slot open for Tim Drake. Drake then moves on to being Red Robin and Damian Wayne, son of Bruce Wayne, becomes Robin. Batman and Robin a father-son duo? No, apparently by this point, Dick Grayson has assumed the mantle of Batman. This is all very interesting and probably not helpful in the least. Is it okay if I fall a bit in love with you for that post? I like the Batman-univers and it's too complex for us to guess anthing that will help us in this game IMO. Still... I like the way you write the names of my heroes
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Post by SBrOwn on Mar 11, 2012 16:05:16 GMT -5
I would like to know if Robin is still Batman's side kick? Damn, IS beat me to it. And Penguin does tend to be a socialite/upper crust villian type.i He's usually known for racketeering or owning fancy clubs that conduct illegal activities on the side/black market sorta deals rather than the smash-and-grab sort of crimes that others would be known for (at least in the more recent comics). I think it seems more likely that the Roles may not be easily matchable to the Scum/Non-Scum team. Which is a bummer. I liked that about the first Arkham. It was kinda cool how all the scum were all "good guys". --But it also means that maybe fake role PMs wouldn't have been as necessary- I don't think most of us would suspect the Penguin as being associated with Batman right away if there was a mass claim sort of deal- his name would have fit right in with the other players's name. So either the roles/alignments aren't based on canon. Or Penguin is a special case- like maybe the one scum with a "townie" name to blend in. Or i guess there is that recruit and dead possibility, but I like the Razor idea in that it seems very complicated. And tex did show how/why he thought he was scummy on day 1. So I'm less inclined to believe the Recruited and then Killed. Though to 'meta-game' a bit- maybe that's what caused the delay in the game? I dunno. I'm not gonna try to focus on that part as much.
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 11, 2012 16:06:38 GMT -5
So you're joining Idle in the opinion that Hal bussed his scum-buddy Bat? I am not sure BUT I have a secret that I can't keep. I have never been able to keep a secret. We have already nailed 2 SCUM and I think I have a 3rd one. I know I will be killed tomorrow but I thought I should get this information out. LightFoot is Robin. The info I got was not in colour though and LightFoot was Robin. I am sorry if I gave out this info too soon but I can't keep it a secret if I find scum. If my PM had come back as a Townie....I would have kept my mouth shut until EOD unless the Townie was being lynched Could you say a bit more? Like why Robin is Scum and how you know this? Don't say more than you think it good for town. But please say what you think will help us.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 11, 2012 16:11:21 GMT -5
So you're joining Idle in the opinion that Hal bussed his scum-buddy Bat? I am not sure BUT I have a secret that I can't keep. I have never been able to keep a secret. We have already nailed 2 SCUM and I think I have a 3rd one. I know I will be killed tomorrow but I thought I should get this information out. LightFoot is Robin. The info I got was not in colour though and LightFoot was Robin. I am sorry if I gave out this info too soon but I can't keep it a secret if I find scum. If my PM had come back as a Townie....I would have kept my mouth shut until EOD unless the Townie was being lynched Can you share the full message in which this information was provided to you? I'm not sure if you mean 'colour' as in pigmented font or cleverly worded narrative based in the Batman 'verse.
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Post by SBrOwn on Mar 11, 2012 16:13:36 GMT -5
We have already nailed 2 SCUM and I think I have a 3rd one. I know I will be killed tomorrow but I thought I should get this information out. LightFoot is Robin. The info I got was not in colour though and LightFoot was Robin. I am sorry if I gave out this info too soon but I can't keep it a secret if I find scum. If my PM had come back as a Townie....I would have kept my mouth shut until EOD unless the Townie was being lynched And after I go and make my post about names/roles, you mention this. I'm torn. Robin IS Batman's sidekick. And if the penguin hadn't shown up scum, I would be all-pro lynching Robin right after Batman. But now.... I just don't know! 1. I think I'd like to hear from Lightfoot first. But FOS Lightfoot/Robin by my guts, but my brain wants more information, Lightfoot. 2. How do you know you won't live tomorrow? You also imply that your information gives alignment- "If my PM had come back as a Townie..." Because if you're saying you Know Lightfoot/Robin's Alignment too [and it's scum], then I think yeah we should def. lynch them. Duh! So clarifications?
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 11, 2012 16:14:44 GMT -5
I am not sure BUT I have a secret that I can't keep. I have never been able to keep a secret. We have already nailed 2 SCUM and I think I have a 3rd one. I know I will be killed tomorrow but I thought I should get this information out. LightFoot is Robin. The info I got was not in colour though and LightFoot was Robin. I am sorry if I gave out this info too soon but I can't keep it a secret if I find scum. If my PM had come back as a Townie....I would have kept my mouth shut until EOD unless the Townie was being lynched Could you say a bit more? Like why Robin is Scum and how you know this? Don't say more than you think it good for town. But please say what you think will help us. Unfortunately I cannot say more, all I got was that my target was susceptible and that she told her name was Robin, it wasn't in Blue or Red, it was just in BLACK so she could just be a 3rd party, I think
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Post by SBrOwn on Mar 11, 2012 16:15:02 GMT -5
NETA: Question 2 was for Silver Jan obviously.
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Post by SBrOwn on Mar 11, 2012 16:17:38 GMT -5
Unfortunately I cannot say more, all I got was that my target was susceptible and that she told her name was Robin, it wasn't in Blue or Red, it was just in BLACK so she could just be a 3rd party, I think Robin is a girl? And susceptible to something... that you can't talk about? Now I'm just confused. And slightly paranoid.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 11, 2012 16:20:16 GMT -5
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 11, 2012 16:22:17 GMT -5
It's sounding to me like Jan is claiming name cop.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 11, 2012 16:24:51 GMT -5
It's sounding to me like Jan is claiming name cop. ME?? Never lol but FFS look after me
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 11, 2012 16:25:41 GMT -5
Please just paste the note. It is within the rules. If there is information that you don't want to expose, redact it, but for the umpteenth time, please don't make assumptions about anyone's alignment based on anything that has or hasn't happened in a comic or movie, etc.
Unless the note explicitly associates Lightfoot's rolename of Robin with an alignment, or that relationship can be implied by how your role is worded (i.e. "You are The Tickler. You can tickle people by night, and if your tickle target giggles in their sleep, you will know that they are Town. If your target cries in their sleep, you will know that they are Scum) then I wouldn't try to deduce LightFoot's alignment.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 11, 2012 16:29:29 GMT -5
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 11, 2012 16:30:27 GMT -5
Jan, you are perplexing the heck out of me.
The information you're providing points quite clearly to the following:
a) You have a power b) That power is used to deduce the role name (NOT alignment) of your target.
You may not have pasted a role PM with "Name Investigator" up top, but your actions have had pretty much the same result.
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Post by SBrOwn on Mar 11, 2012 16:30:29 GMT -5
Hmmm... if Lightfoot[/] IS Robin, this might explain that whole weirdness with the Names of Good guys/bad guys thing yesterday. Let's see if I can't go find their posts.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 11, 2012 16:32:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately I cannot say more, all I got was that my target was susceptible and that she told her name was Robin, it wasn't in Blue or Red, it was just in BLACK so she could just be a 3rd party, I think Robin is a girl? And susceptible to something... that you can't talk about? Now I'm just confused. And slightly paranoid. LightFoot is girl and Robin is a boy, got it?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 11, 2012 16:35:52 GMT -5
Before we go any farther, is there anyone else out there for whom it is not clear that even if some or even most of the players have been assigned roles where Canon Villians are Townies and Canon Heros are Scum, it is not wise to assume that any and all roles are going to have been assigned that way?
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Post by Drain Bead on Mar 11, 2012 16:36:36 GMT -5
I'll be the one, then.
Vote: LightFoot
I see no way that Robin is not aligned against Town, given the color.
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 11, 2012 16:38:09 GMT -5
Jan, you are perplexing the heck out of me. The information you're providing points quite clearly to the following: a) You have a power b) That power is used to deduce the role name (NOT alignment) of your target. You may not have pasted a role PM with "Name Investigator" up top, but your actions have had pretty much the same result. Exactly, I just had "ROBIN" in Black that was LightFoot . I wrote to our dear Mod and have not yet had a reply.
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Post by Chronos on Mar 11, 2012 16:43:07 GMT -5
Well, I see ways (I mean, maybe Storyteller did swap the Penguin and Robin), but by far the simplest explanation is Scum.
Vote Lightfoot
You've got to take the gimmes when you have them.
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 11, 2012 16:45:33 GMT -5
I'll be the one, then. Vote: LightFoot [/color] I see no way that Robin is not aligned against Town, given the color.[/quote] What? what? What? Could you please explain this to a slow Danish girl? Batman was scum able to talk to the Joker. Penguin was on Batmans team and the daughter of our (if we believe her claim) vig was a PFK... So even if Robin is Scum, what Robin are we talking about here?
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Post by Silver Jan on Mar 11, 2012 16:47:18 GMT -5
I think I have to vote
LightFoot
Robin is Batman's side kick
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 11, 2012 16:48:22 GMT -5
Really Drain? How am I supposed to school the newer players not to be naive when you go making dubious votes like that?
Please point me to any color that cam from Storyteller's fingers that inscrutably ties Batman to Robin with respect to alignment.
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